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November 26, 2010

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June 08, 2010

Soros: 'Go For The Jugular'

Good article by Atlantic Monthly on how Soros famously "broke" the Bank of England.

(Thanks to Nadav Manham for the link.)

June 07, 2010

Absolute Return Interviews Seth Klarman

By Greenbackd

In The value of Seth Klarman (free registration required), Absolute Return has a rare interview with the president and portfolio manager of the 28-year-old Baupost Group. In the interview, Klarman discusses several of Baupost’s positions over the last twelve months, including the fund’s stake in Facet Biotech, which I fumbled last year:

Around the same time the CIT deal was playing out, Klarman took a sizable stake in Facet Biotech—a small biotech company spun off in December 2008 from PDL BioPharma—for an average cost of $9 even though it had $17 per share in net cash at the time of the spinoff. “We liked the discount and pipeline of products,” Klarman recalls. “We knew that when small caps are spun off, they are frequently ignored and become cheap.”

Biogen Idec tried to acquire Facet in a hostile deal for $14.50 per share, raising the offer later to $17.50. When Facet allowed its largest shareholder, Biotech Value Fund, to buy up to 20% of the company, Baupost asked for identical terms, essentially becoming a poison pill. Baupost then told Facet it did not intend to tender its shares in the $17.50 per share offer. Eventually Biogen backed off, and Facet accepted a $27 per share offer from Abbott Laboratories.

Here Klarman discusses his strategy more broadly:

Value investors are typically thought of as stock investors, but Klarman says most of the time he prefers to buy bonds. Bonds are a senior security, offering more safety, and they have a catalyst built into them. Unlike equity, debt pays current principal and interest. If the issuer doesn’t make that timely payment, an investor can take action. “Catalysts can reduce your dependence on the level of the market or action of the market,” he explains. For example, defaults are specific incidents affecting the company regardless of what is going on in the overall market.

Over the past two years, Klarman’s preference for debt has been even more pronounced. After peaking at just $2 billion in June 2008, Baupost’s total equity assets shrank to around $1.2 billion from the fourth quarter of 2008 to the first half of 2009, before turning up slightly at year-end 2009 to nearly $1.6 billion. That puts equities at just a little more than 7% of total assets under management.

And his view on the market

The value pro is still looking at troubled companies, mortgage securities and select equities. But he is not buying much at the moment. Klarman says there are some opportunities in commercial real estate on the private side, but not as much as would be expected, given the depressed levels of the market. “That’s why we want to be patient,” he stresses.

Baupost is 30% in cash now, its long-time average. Klarman stresses that the cash position is residual—the result of a search for opportunity and not the result of a macro view. He says he can find great opportunities to buy at the same time he has a bearish view on the world. “We’re good at finding bargains, good at doing analysis,” he emphasizes. “We’re not good at calling short-term movements in the markets.”

And when the markets started to crumble in mid-May, he mostly stood pat, asserting that the 5% to 8% drop in prices did not unleash a torrent of bargains, mostly because of the market’s surge from its March 2009 bottom. “The market has gone up so much that, based on valuation, it is overvalued again to a meaningful degree where the expected returns logically from here can be as low as the low single digits or zero for the next several years,” he says.

Click here to see the remainder of the interview (free registration required).

June 05, 2010

Forbes on Buffett: A Compilation (must read)

Check it out here. Highly recommended!

Pabrai on Frontline (NYSE:FRO); HAWK template

By Greenbackd

In his 2003 Annual Meeting, Mohnish Pabrai discussed his thesis for his investment in Frontline Ltd (USA) (NYSE:FRO). I see a number of parallels between HAWK now and FRO then. Here is an extract from the transcript:

Frontline (FRO) is company I’d like to talk about because it is an interesting datapoint on how I look at businesses. Frontline is in the crude oil shipping business. About 2 and half years ago if you asked me if I had any competency or knowledge of the crude oil shipping business, I would say that I knew nothing about the business or industry. In 2001, I was just looking at a list of companies that had high dividend yields. One of the screens I look at is companies with high dividend yields, which sometimes means some sort of overhang which is dropping the price below where it should be.

If I looked at Value Line today, I would probably find three or four companies that have a dividend yield of 10%-12%. In 2001 I noticed there were two companies with a dividend yield over 15%. Both were in the crude oil shipping business. One was called Knightsbridge (VLCCF). I wanted to understand why they had such a high dividend yield. So I spent about a month studying the crude oil shipping business.

When Knightsbridge was formed a few years ago, they ordered a few oil tankers from a Korean ship yard. Each of these VLCCs (Very large Crude Carrier) and Suezmaxes costs about $50-70 million a piece and it takes 2-3 years to build one. The day the tankers were delivered they had a long term lease with Shell Oil. The deal was that Shell would pay them a base lease rate (say $10,000 a day per tanker) regardless of whether they used them or not. On top of that, they paid them a percentage of the delta between a base rate and the spot price for VLCC rentals.

For example, if the spot price went to $30,000/day, they might collect $20,000 a day. If the spot was $50,000/day, they’d collect say $35,000/day etc. The way Knightsbridge was set up, at $10,000 a day; they were able to cover their principal and interest payments and had a small positive cash flow. As the rates went above $10,000, there was a larger positive cash flow and the company was set up to just dividend all the excess cash out to shareholders – which is marvelous. I wish all public companies did that.

When tanker rates go up dramatically, this company’s dividends goes through the roof. This happened in 2001 when tanker rates which are normally $20,000-$30,000 a day went to $80,000 a day. They were making astronomical profits at the time and the dividend yield went through the roof – but of course it was not durable or sustainable.

That’s why the stock didn’t jump up significantly. Then next week it could drop. It is a very volatile business. But I studied the business because I was just curious. But in investing, all knowledge is cumulative and makes the analytics much faster the next time around. At the time I studied Knightsbridge I also took a look at half a dozen other publicly traded pure plays in oil shipping.

Last year, we had an interesting situation take place with one of these oil shipping companies called Frontline (FRO). Frontline is a company that is the exact opposite business model of Knightsbridge. They have the largest oil tankers fleet in the world, amongst all the public companies. The entire fleet is on the spot market. There are very few long term leases. They ride the spot market on these tankers.

Because they ride the spot market on these tankers, there is no such thing as earnings forecasts or guidance. The company’s CEO himself doesn’t know tomorrow what the income will be quarter to quarter. This is great because whenever Wall Street gets confused, it means we can make money. This is a company that has widely gyrating earnings.

Oil tanker rates have varied historically between $6,000 a day to $80,000 a day. The company needs about $18,000 a day to break even. Once rates go below $18,000 a day, they are bleeding red ink. Once they go above $18,000, about $30,000-$35,000, they are making huge profits. In the third quarter of last year, oil tanker rates collapsed. There was a recession in the US, and a few other factors causing a drop in crude oil shipping volume. Rates went down to $6,000 a day. At $6,000 a day, Frontline is bleeding red ink badly. The stock appropriately went from $11 a share to about $3, in about 3 months.

If you spent some time studying Frontline, you would find that they have 60 or 70 ships, and while the rates had collapsed for daily rentals, the price per ship hadn’t changed much, dropping about 10% or 15%. There was a small drop in price per ship, but nowhere near the price the stock had dropped; the stock had dropped over 70%.

Slide 27

Frontline has a liquidation book value of about $16.50 per share, which means if they simply shut down the business sell all their ships, shareholders would get about $16 a share. If you take the collapsed ship price, you would still get $11 per share. If one could buy the entire business for $3/share, one could turn around the next day and sell the ships and clean up. While the stock was at $3, the company insiders were furiously buying shares.

When you looked at the numbers, they had plenty of cash. They could handle $6000/day rates for several months without a liquidity crunch. Also, if they sell a ship, they raise $60-70 million. The total annual interest payments are $150 million. If the income went to $0, they could sell a few ships a year and keep the company going.

In addition there is a feedback loop in the tanker market. There are two kinds of tankers. There double hull and single hull tankers. After the Exxon Valdez spill, all sorts of maritime regulations were instituted requiring all new tankers to be double hull after 2006 because they are less likely to spill oil. The entire Frontline fleet is double hull tankers.

But there’s a huge number of these single hull rust buckets built in the 1970s. If the double hull tanker spot rate is at $30,000 a day, the single hull tanker is at $20,000 a day. Oil that gets shipped from the Middle East to China or India, for example, is on single hull tankers. But Shell or Mobil, etc., will avoid leasing a single hull tanker because it is an enormous liability if they have a spill. The third world is nonchalant about importing oil on single hull tankers, and all the double hull tankers come to Europe and the West. But when rates go to $6,000 a day, the delta between single and double hull disappears.

The single hull tankers stop being rented because there’s no significant delta in the daily rate. Everyone shifts to double hull tankers at that point. The single hull tanker fleet goes to zero revenue in a $6,000 a day rate environment. When it goes to zero revenue, all these guys who own the single hull tankers get jittery; they can sell these tankers to the ship breakers and get a few million dollars instantly. They know that by 2006 their ability to rent them will decline substantially. There is a dramatic increase in scrapping rate for single hulled tankers whenever rates go down.

It takes four years to build a new tanker, so when demand comes back up again, inventory is very tight. There is a definitive cycle. When rates go as low as $6,000 and stays there for a few weeks the rise to astronomically high levels – say $60,000/day is very fast. With Frontline, for about seven or eight weeks, the rates stayed at under $10,000 a day and then spiked to $80,000 a day in Q402.

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I started buying around here ($5.90). Again, not smart enough to buy at the very bottom. I bought on average price at a price of $5.90 per share, which is about half of the $11/$12 per share you would get in a liquidation. Now Frontline’s price is about $20 a share because tanker rates are at $60,000 a day – people are in a euphoric/greedy state. But once we got past $9, approaching $10, I started to unload of the shares. The whole thing happened in a very short time period – resulting in a very high annualized rate of return.

Slide 29

We had a 55% return on the Frontline investment and an annualized rate of return of 273%. Frontline is a good example of why I am hesitant to share ideas because we will see this again. Oil tanker rates will go down and at the last meeting a bunch of investors told me, “We are watching now.” The more people that are tuned in, once it gets to $8 or $9, the more the buying – reducing our gains. But that is an example of a Special Situation investment in a company with negative cash flow.

June 02, 2010

Warren Buffett Testifies Before Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission

Warren Buffett TestimonyFrom C-SPAN: "Responding to questioning, Warren Buffett agreed that there are still risks involved in the derivatives market during today’s Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission hearing. The hearing focuses on the role of ratings firms in the financial crisis and is titled, "Credibility of Credit Ratings, the Investment Decisions Made Based on those Ratings and the Financial Crisis.” Executives from Moody’s, including its current CEO, are also among the witnesses. Mr. Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway is Moody's largest shareholder."

watch FCIC Hearing: Session 1   

watch FCIC Hearing: Session 2 (incl. Buffett testimony)

watch FCIC Hearing: Session 3

read AP: Congress grills Moody's officials

May 23, 2010

Was Burry’s ‘Primer on Mortgage Short’ Convincing in 2006?

By Ravi Nagarajan

It is said that those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it.  The benefits of a careful study of general history is self evident and the same applies to investors who wish to learn from past events as well as the mistakes of others.  There is no reason to learn painful lessons firsthand when we can learn vicariously through our predecessors.  At the same time, it is important to guard against the tendency to judge those making decisions in the past solely based on events that occur subsequently.  However, it is reasonable to expect that an individual making a decision in the past should have acted logically based on knowledge available at the time.

Michael BurryWith this in mind, it is interesting to review Michael Burry’s letter to his investors written in November 2006.  ‘A Primer on Scion Capital’s Subprime Mortgage Short’ is Dr. Burry’s attempt to explain his decision to take a bearish position in credit default swap contracts.  Based on accounts in The Big Short, which we reviewed last week, Dr. Burry’s investors were highly skeptical of his short position and many were threatening to withdraw funds.

Viewed from our perspective in May 2010, Dr. Burry’s investment thesis was obviously correct and the letter makes perfect logical sense.  We have the benefit of hindsight and are fully aware of the wreckage in the mortgage market that took place after mid 2007.  However, the real question is whether the argument was persuasive from the vantage point of late 2006.  It certainly appears persuasive even if one does not base that judgment on what we know today.  Dr. Burry clearly outlines the structure of the securitizations in question, documents the very thin nature of the lower tranches, and shows how a modest level of default could easily hit the higher “investment grade” tranches.

The following excerpt is from the conclusion of Dr. Burry’s letter and nicely illustrates the risk/reward characteristics of the trade.  If the thesis was proven to be incorrect, the annual cost of carrying the position would amount to about six percent of fund assets each year.  The benefits of the thesis being proven correct was massively larger than the actual risk assumed:

The Funds currently carry credit default swaps on subprime mortgage-backed securities amounting to $1.687 billion in notional value. As I selected these, I was not looking to set up a diversified portfolio of shorts. Our shorts will have common characteristics that I deemed to be predictive of foreclosure, and therefore they should be highly correlated with each other in terms of both the timing and the degree of ultimate performance. Again, ultimate performance matters much more than the valuation marks accorded us by our counterparties in the interim. In the worst case, I expect our mortgage short will fully amortize to nil value over the next three years, corresponding to an average annual cost of carry over that time of roughly six percent of current assets under management. Calibrating the more positive outcomes will become easier as 2007 progresses.

It is always risky to retroactively pass judgment on decisions that were made in the past with imperfect information.  It is true that the consensus viewpoint at the time was that nationwide home prices “never” decline, and if this is accepted at face value, the annual six percent cost of carry could seem like a simple speculation.  Dr. Burry’s investors included sophisticated and well respected value investors who today would probably concede that his short thesis was accurate but disagreed strongly at the time. Alan Greenspan still thinks that those who predicted the housing bubble were merely lucky “statistical illusions”.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.    

May 19, 2010

Berkshire Hathaway Reduced Kraft Position During First Quarter

By Ravi Nagarajan

Buffett KraftWarren Buffett was highly critical of Kraft’s acquisition of Cadbury throughout the takeover process.  It is therefore not entirely surprising to learn that Berkshire Hathaway cut its stake in Kraft by nearly 23 percent during the first quarter. It is not common for Mr. Buffett to openly criticize managers so it was all the more notable to hear him say that the deal made him feel poorer, particularly due to the “dumb transaction” involving the sale of Kraft’s pizza business to fund part of the acquisition.

In a 13F Filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission this afternoon, Berkshire reported holding 106.7 million shares of Kraft as of March 31, 2010 compared to nearly 138.3 million shares on December 31, 2009.  In addition to the sale of Kraft shares, Berkshire liquidated shares in several other companies and added to positions in three companies.  No new positions were initiated during the quarter.  Let’s take a brief look at the Kraft sale and other transactions revealed in today’s report.

Why Sell if Kraft is Still Undervalued?

The reason we stated that the sale of Kraft shares was not “entirely surprising” is due to Warren Buffett’s longstanding preference for dealing only with managers who can be trusted to exercise good business judgment.  With wholly owned subsidiaries, Mr. Buffett is looking for good operational managers who can run their businesses well but he handles all capital allocation personally.  This is not the case with minority stakes in public companies.  Mr. Buffett quite clearly believes that Kraft CEO Irene Rosenfeld is incompetent in capital allocation, although he has said that she is a capable operational manager.

What makes the size of the reduction somewhat surprising is that Mr. Buffett still believes that Kraft is undervalued on a component part basis.  According to several accounts of notes taken at the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting (for example, click on this link for The Inoculated Investor’s notes), Mr. Buffett quite clearly stated that Kraft is undervalued.  The implications of a large sale is that the degree of undervaluation may not represent enough of a margin of safety to protect against future incompetence in capital allocation.  Of course, Berkshire continues to own a large stake in Kraft even after the sales during the first quarter.

Other First Quarter Portfolio Changes

During the first quarter, Berkshire eliminated positions in Wellpoint, United Health Group, Travelers, and SunTrust Bank.  Both individually and in aggregate, these were relatively small positions for Berkshire and from the prior 13F report, it appears that the Wellpoint and United Health stakes were most likely positions controlled by GEICO’s Lou Simpson.

In addition to Kraft, positions that were reduced but not entirely eliminated include CarMax (3.4% reduction), Costco (17.5% reduction), Gannett (21% reduction), Johnson & Johnson (11.9% reduction), M&T Bank (17.2% reduction), Moody’s (3.2% reduction), Conoco Philips (9.4% reduction), and Proctor & Gamble (9.6% reduction).

Berkshire added to its position in three companies:  Republic Services (30.6% addition), Iron Mountain (11.4% addition), and Becton Dickinson (16.3% addition).

In addition to the changes noted above, the latest report shows the effect of Berkshire’s acquisition of Burlington Northern Santa Fe.  The 76.8 million shares that were held as of December 31, 2009 no longer appear on the report due to the completion of the acquisition on February 12.

Due to the widespread availability of free high quality resources for viewing Berkshire’s portfolio in real time, we are no longer providing the spreadsheet that was previously posted following the 13F release.  Instead, we suggest using Dataroma’s Berkshire portfolio tracker for basic information or GuruFocus.com for more in depth coverage.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.  

Disclosure:  The author owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway.

Li Lu’s Lecture at Greenwald’s Columbia University Value Investing Class

By Ravi Nagarajan

In recent weeks, there has been some speculation that Li Lu may be a potential candidate for Chief Investment Officer at Berkshire Hathaway once Warren Buffett retires.  Berkshire Hathaway’s succession plans call for Warren Buffett’s job to be split into two roles.  The new CEO will have ultimate responsibility for Berkshire Hathaway and one or more investment officers will have oversight responsibility for investment operations and will report to the CEO.

Li LuWho is Li Lu?  According to his Wikipedia entry, Li Lu was an organizer of the student protest movement in China and took part in the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.  After the post-Tiananmen crackdown, Mr. Lu had to flee mainland China and moved to the United States where he became one of the first students in the history of Columbia University to complete three degrees simultaneously:  a B.A. in Economics, a J.D. from Columbia Law School, and a M.B.A. from Columbia Business School.  Mr. Lu founded Himalaya Capital in 1997 and ran the fund until 2004.  In 2004, he founded a long only investment vehicle named LL Investment Partners.

During the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting, Charlie Munger made a vague reference to a candidate for the CIO position who returned 200 percent in 2009.  At the Wesco meeting the following week, Mr. Munger mentioned Li Lu in the context of the BYD investment.  While no specific reference has been made to Li Lu, it is obvious why there is some speculation regarding the possibilities.

In the following video, Li Lu speaks to Bruce Greenwald’s value investment class at Columbia University. Please click on this link for the video.  Note that registration is not required to view the video.  Simply click on the play button in the center of the display.  Do not select a video quality.  The site will open up an unrelated window but should begin streaming the main presentation.  The actual lecture starts at about the three minute mark.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.   

Disclosure:  The author owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway.

May 01, 2010

Moore Capital and Sticky Capital

By Nadav Manham

In his annual letter to Moore Capital investors, Louis Bacon wrote about his fund's new marketing strategy:

Bacon also said it's looking to attract longer-term investors after its performance was restrained by redemptions during the financial crisis.

Moore Capital has a new marketing team, which "has had very good success in attracting what we hope is sticky capital from more institutional investors," he wrote in the letter.

Bacon is a rock star among hedge fund rock stars. His fund has returned over 20% for over two decades. My understanding is that he charges above-market fees and has a long lock-up. If even he needs stickier capital, imagine how difficult it is for everyone else. And how important.

My working hypothesis about attracting sticky capital is that it is a two-part process. The first part involves, as Bacon notes, attracting more institutional investors with a long-term capital base. This is not easy, but it is simple: everyone knows who these investors are. You might think of this as "structural stickiness": that portion of an LP's propensity to redeem capital from your fund that can be explained by the type of investor it is (pension, endowment, fund of funds, high net worth, etc). The way to increase the aggregate structural stickiness of your capital base is to attract LPs in the right categories. Simple but not easy.

The second part of the process is more amorphous and intangible. It is the effort to increase an LP's "non-structural stickiness," which can be defined as that portion of an LP's propensity to redeem capital that cannot be explained by its category. High non-structural stickiness can overcome low structural stickiness. That is, an investor in a category known for being flighty can sometimes be your most loyal investor. Consider Warren Buffett's father-in-law:

"Doc Thompson was the kind of guy, he gave me every penny he had, basically. I was his boy."

That was in 1956, and it worked out well. Non-structural stickiness is a function of persuasion, positioning, and underwriting.

I've created a new category called "The Search for Sticky Capital" in which I plan to explore these issues further, the search for both structural and non-structural sticky capital. I will explain what I mean by "persuasion, positioning, and underwriting." The presence of sticky capital is a significant source of competitive advantage for a hedge fund, so the ability to attract it and create it is crucial.

I confess I am a novice in this area, so I welcome any thoughts you may have.

P.S. On the flip-side, from the perspective of a prospective investor in a hedge fund, sticky capital is also very important. You want to spend time learning about how a fund goes about increasing the stickiness of its capital, both structural and non-structural.

The author of this post is Nadav Manham, president of Elera Advisors LLC, an investment advisory company focused on value-oriented manager selection. Mr. Manham is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Investor's Consigliere.

April 26, 2010

Berkshire Lobbies Congress on Derivatives Collateral Requirements

By Ravi Nagarajan

Warren BuffettIn a warning that was largely ignored at the time but proven correct in subsequent years, Warren Buffett referred to derivatives as “financial weapons of mass destruction” in his 2002 letter to Berkshire Hathaway shareholders.  Critics of Berkshire’s recent involvement in derivatives often like to point out the superficial inconsistency between Mr. Buffett’s earlier warnings and his willingness to enter into derivatives contracts in recent years.  Today’s Wall Street Journal article regarding Berkshire Hathaway’s lobbying efforts related to the financial regulatory reform bill are already raising charges of hypocrisy. Let’s take a brief look at the facts and how the legislation may impact Berkshire Hathaway.

Background

While Warren Buffett has emphasized the dangers of derivatives on many occasions, he entered into a number of derivatives contracts in recent years to take advantage of what he believed were mispriced terms at the inception of each contract.  The derivatives generally fall into two categories:  Equity puts and credit default swaps on individual companies.  The equity puts are long term contracts that require minimal collateral and are not exercisable until contract expiration.  In a previous article, we provided more details regarding the nature of these contracts in an attempt to clear up persistent misunderstandings regarding the issue.  Mr. Buffett’s latest letter to shareholders provides updated information based on developments in 2009

In addition to the derivatives portfolio managed personally by Mr. Buffett, certain Berkshire subsidiaries such as MidAmerican enter into derivatives contracts for hedging purposes.

Derivatives “Float” and Collateral Requirements

At the end of 2009, Berkshire Hathaway held approximately $6.3 billion of “derivatives float” which represents funds received from counterparties that Berkshire can use for investment purposes.  Berkshire’s counterparties are required to make payments at the inception of contracts. According to Note 12 in Berkshire’s 2009 annual report, very minimal collateral requirements exist and even additional credit downgrades would only require a relatively modest increase in collateral:

With limited exceptions, our equity index put option and credit default contracts contain no collateral posting requirements with respect to changes in either the fair value or intrinsic value of the contracts and/or a downgrade of Berkshire’s credit ratings. Under certain conditions, a few contracts require that we post collateral. As of December 31, 2009, our collateral posting requirement under such contracts was $35 million compared to about $550 million at December 31, 2008. As of December 31, 2009, had Berkshire’s credit ratings (currently AA+ from Standard & Poor’s and Aa2 from Moody’s) been downgraded below either A- by Standard & Poor’s or A3 by Moody’s an additional $1.1 billion would have been required to be posted as collateral.

One additional point that is often missed is that Berkshire continues to own the securities posted as collateral and benefits from any returns earned by the collateral.

It is obvious that Berkshire was able to secure very favorable terms from counterparties regarding collateral requirements precisely because the financial strength of Berkshire has never been seriously questioned.

Berkshire Objects to Retroactive Changes to Collateral Requirements

According to the Wall Street Journal article, Berkshire Hathaway is only objecting to efforts in Congress to retroactively apply new collateral requirements to existing contracts:

The provision, sought by Berkshire and pushed by Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson in the Senate Agriculture Committee, would largely exempt existing derivatives contracts from the proposed rules. Previously, the legislation could have allowed regulators to require that companies such as Nebraska-based Berkshire put aside large sums to cover potential losses. The change thus would aid Berkshire, which has a $63 billion derivatives portfolio, according to Barclays Capital.

Mr. Buffett’s push is especially notable because he has warned of the potential dangers of derivatives, famously branding them “financial weapons of mass destruction.”

The White House has been trying to kill the Berkshire provision on the grounds that it would weaken the government’s ability to regulate the enormous market for derivatives. Berkshire Hathaway argued that it shouldn’t be made to redo existing contracts and that it is already healthy enough to cover its obligations. The battle over the provision shows how lobbying by businesses and lawmakers to insert just a few words into a complex bill can have a major impact on the country’s biggest companies.

The proposed changes to collateral requirements would have widespread impacts and are not targeted specifically to Berkshire.  The current reports regarding Berkshire’s lobbying indicate that the company is seeking a broad based “fix” to prevent the government from forcing retroactive changes to existing contracts rather than a special exemption only for Berkshire.

Bottom Line Impact

While it is impossible to know exactly what the bottom line impact of the proposed legislation would be for Berkshire Hathaway, it is important to note that any additional collateral that Berkshire is forced to post would continue to be owned by Berkshire and would earn income for the company while it is held.  The ultimate gain or loss from the derivatives position would be unchanged with the main difference being that additional collateral would have to be posted for the duration of the contracts, most of which will remain outstanding for many years.

The more significant impact going forward may be to discourage Berkshire from entering into new derivatives contracts if collateral requirements for new contracts become even more onerous.  A reduction in this type of activity may be inevitable in any case because many Berkshire shareholders may only trust Warren Buffett to personally manage these types of risks.  Whether shareholders would be comfortable with a proprietary derivatives strategy run by Mr. Buffett’s successor is far from clear.

From a valuation perspective, it seems most conservative to consider the $6.2 billion proprietary derivatives float to be in “run off” rather than a permanent source of value.  The derivatives positions will likely produce significant profits for Berkshire over the next several years but renewal of such opportunities seems too uncertain to rely on the proprietary derivatives strategy as a source of ongoing value.  In contrast, Berkshire’s much larger $62 billion of insurance float remains a long standing and enduring source of intrinsic value for the company.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk. 

Disclosure:  The author owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway and is the author of The Rational Walk’s Berkshire Hathaway 2010 Briefing Book which provides more information regarding the company including a brief section regarding the derivatives portfolio.

April 19, 2010

A Treasure for Wisdom-Seeking Investors: Highlights From Buffett Partnership Letters

By Ravi Nagarajan

Warren BuffettWarren Buffett started his investment partnership in 1956 with $105,100 of capital made up of his own funds and investments from family and close friends.  According to the BLS inflation calculator, initial capital was $840,920 measured in 2010 dollars which would be a very small sum to start a modern day hedge fund.  What is even more remarkable was the fee structure of the Buffett Partnerships.  Mr. Buffett, as the general partner, took 25 percent of all profits in excess of 6 percent.  There was no “2 and 20″ structure in which the general partner received any guaranteed payment.  With nearly all of his net worth invested in the fund and a young family to support, it obviously took a very self confident 25 year old to start this venture.

Mr. Buffett’s early letters to partners have become investment classics and required reading for value investors.   By reading the letters in chronological sequence, one can see how Mr. Buffett’s investment philosophy evolved over the years.  It is particularly interesting to note that many of the same themes that continue to appear in recent Berkshire Hathaway annual letters were regularly appearing in partnership letters during the 1960s.

On an annual compounded basis, the Buffett Partnership returned 23.8 percent/year to limited partners over its history compared to 7.4 percent/year for the Dow Jones Industrial Average.  The limited partners only had one year (1958) in which their results failed to match the Dow Industrials.  (See The Superinvestors of Graham-and-Doddsville for more details)

In his letter to partners in 1969 announcing his “retirement”, Mr. Buffett had the following to say:

“As long as I am “on stage”, publishing a regular record and assuming responsibility for management of what amounts to virtually 100% of the net worth of many partners, I will never be able to put sustained effort into any non-BPL [partnership] activity.  If I am going to participate publicly, I can’t help being competitive.  I know I don’t want to be totally occupied with out-pacing an investment rabbit all my life.  The only way to slow down is to stop.”

Partners who elected to take part of their final partnership distribution in Berkshire Hathaway stock probably did not notice much of a “slow down” in subsequent years.

I was recently contacted by Frank Gifford, a Berkshire Hathaway shareholder who has studied the partnership letters and agreed to share his notes with readers of The Rational Walk.  Mr. Gifford provides a great 20 page introduction to the letters which is very useful for someone looking for a concise summary.

Click on this link to download the partnership letter notes

Disclosure:  The author owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

April 17, 2010

Joel Greenblatt Applies Magic Formula to Global Investing

By Ravi Nagarajan

Joel GreenblattJoel Greenblatt outlined his “magic formula” for stock market investing in The Little Book That Beats the Market. The formula ranks stocks based on two simple and easily calculated figures:  earnings yield and return on capital.  Rather than merely looking for the cheapest companies, the goal is to also find good businesses that achieve high returns on capital.  In the interview shown below, Mr. Greenblatt discusses a new fund that he is introducing which will apply the magic formula to global markets.

Forbes has also published a new interview with Joel Greenblatt with some good background information on the magic formula.

Mr. Greenblatt is also the author of You Can Be a Stock Market Genius which we reviewed last year.  Both books are well worth reading.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

April 12, 2010

Pabrai: “I Don’t Invest in Tech Because I Spent Time In It”

By Ravi Nagarajan

Mohnish PabraiMohnish Pabrai provides some great insights on investing in an interview with Steve Forbes this week. Mr. Pabrai comments on a number of topics including the influence Warren Buffett has had on his investment style and the fee structure of his hedge fund.  One quote has particular resonance for someone who has been involved in technology but has chosen to generally avoid tech investments:

I spent a lot of time in the tech industry. And I like to say that I don’t invest in tech because I spent time in it. And I saw firsthand that the durability of technology moats is many times an oxymoron.

Mr. Pabrai also comments on index funds, the benefits of viewing investing as a “gentleman of leisure activity”, the virtues of an afternoon nap, and the main source of misery for investment managers:

Forbes: So what’s that saying of Pascal that you like about just sitting in a room?

Pabrai: Yeah. “All man’s miseries stem from his inability to sit in a room alone and do nothing.” And all I’d like to do to adapt Pascal is, “All investment managers’ miseries stem from the inability to sit alone in a room and do nothing.”

One suspects that “doing nothing” actually refers to moving funds around by frequent trading.  A prepared mind is required to take action quickly and in size when opportunities arise.  For most investors this requires a tremendous amount of reading and hard work.  To view the entire interview, please click on the image below:

For a list of Mr. Pabrai’s investment holdings as reported in his latest 13-F filing showing positions on December 31, 2009, please click on this link.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.  

April 10, 2010

Must-Read Annual Letters by Public Company CEOs

Jamie Dimon annual letterWe'll be updating the following list throughout this year's public company annual meeting season:

April 08, 2010

Exclusive Interview with Prem Jain, Author of ‘Buffett Beyond Value’

By Ravi Nagarajan

Prem C. JainThe Rational Walk is pleased to have this opportunity to present an exclusive interview with Prem C. Jain, the author of the recently released book Buffett Beyond Value which we reviewed last week.  Prem Jain is the McDonough Professor of Accounting and Finance at Georgetown University.  He has previously taught at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania and the Freeman School of Business at Tulane University.  His research has been published in many prestigious finance and accounting journals including the Journal of Finance and the Journal of Accounting Research.

Professor Jain generously took the time to provide extensive answers to several questions regarding Warren Buffett, the evolution of behavioral finance in academia, defining an investing circle of competence, approaches for investors who wish to expand their competence over time, and much more.

Please click on this link to read the interview in a formatted pdf file.

Q:  There are many books covering Warren Buffett’s career, particularly over the past few years. What made you decide to write a book about Warren Buffett and how is your book differentiated from Buffett biographies such as Snowball?

Most authors of books on Warren Buffett spend a significant part of their books on narratives about Warren Buffett as a person. They do not analyze his investing philosophy in enough detail to develop a good sense of Buffett-style investing. I have tried to fill that gap. Having taught Buffett’s principles for over twenty years and having personally benefitted from his principles, I have written a book that is primarily about Buffett’s investing principles. My book is even more valuable to those who already have some background on Buffett from reading biographical books such as Snowball.

Q:  Much of your book focuses on how investors can learn from Warren Buffett’s techniques and generate market beating returns. Yet, the usual caveat is that investors must not stray from their circle of competence. Many investors have trouble precisely identifying the boundaries of this circle. How would you suggest that investors go about defining their circle of competence?

An investor should start with analyzing one industry that the investor knows the most about. The investor is in his circle of competence if he is not often surprised by the developments in that industry. Else, he needs to study it more. As a professor, I have benefited from investing in education stocks as I understood the business models of several of those companies. Furthermore, to precisely identify the boundaries of one’s circle of competence, one must also test one’s knowledge in several additional stocks in the same industry.

It is often the case that an investor would invest in one company in an industry (say, Wal-Mart) and would not know much about other companies in the same industry (say, Costco and others). To understand Wal-Mart well, they should study and monitor other similar companies as well. This is how I came across Wal-Mart de Mexico (a Wal-Mart subsidiary in Mexico that trades independently). Only after developing a good understanding of one industry, the investor should start investigating in other industries.

Q:  You identify Warren Buffett as a “renaissance investor” because he was one of the first to blend the “growth” and “value” styles into a model that has produced consistently superior results over many decades. Part of Mr. Buffett’s shift toward “growth + value” was due to the influence of Charlie Munger and others such as Philip Fisher, but part of this was due to size. As Berkshire grew, the small “cigar butt” opportunities were not able to “move the needle” for Berkshire. Portfolio size is not an issue for most small investors. In early 2009, there were many small stocks selling under “net-net current assets” as defined by Graham. Does it make sense for small investors to pursue the “cigar butt” style advocated by Graham or does it make more sense to emulate Buffett’s “growth + value” approach?

Buffett’s investing philosophy has evolved over time. An investor can similarly become a better investor over time. In 1963, Warren Buffett invested in American Express because American Express’s stock price had declined in the wake of the infamous Salad Oil Scandal in which American Express lost money. However, the American Express charge card business was not affected. After a year or two, Buffett sold those shares as the price recovered. In this investing approach which is usually classified as “cigar butt” investing, the focus is on finding stocks when declining stock prices can be attributed more to market psychology than to fundamentals.

The “cigar butt” investing is based on examining numbers such as P/E ratios or other quantitative metrics. However, even as far back as 1967, Buffett wrote in his letter to his partners that really big money tends to be made by investors who are right on qualitative (as opposed to quantitative) decisions. Clearly, Buffett’s investing style was evolving.

An evaluation of Buffett’s writings and decisions over decades suggests that he has maintained the principle of not paying excessively as a value investor (or as a “cigar butt” investor), he is now willing to pay a fair price as a growth investor. If we were to think of him as a pure value investor, it would be difficult to explain him paying about market P/E for several of his stock acquisitions such as BYD and Burlington Northern Santa Fe or even Wal-Mart. He has clearly evolved into a value + growth investor over time and has specifically mentioned that value and growth are two sides of the same coin. An investor should not ignore “cigar butts” but in this day and age when information is ubiquitous, cigar butts are not easily found. However, an investor incorporating the principles of both value investing and growth investing together is more likely to earn large returns.

Q:  Professional familiarity in a field does not necessarily extend to investment competence. For example, many doctors have a reputation as terrible investors because they mistakenly believe that knowledge of technical details of drugs or medical devices makes them qualified to pick investments. The same can be true for many in technology and software fields. But at the same time, it seems natural to invest in areas that professionals know the best. How can a doctor, for example, develop an investment circle of competence that would allow for intelligent investment in companies related to his profession?

This is a good example of an investor not making good returns even when he may have a good understanding of a particular product. The reason is that investment circle of competence requires not only the knowledge of the products but also the ability to understand the financial statements and to project future earnings. Many investors can not translate success of a product into financial success of the company.

I recommend the following to doctors and others who are interested in investing. Investor should think whether the company and not just a product will be successful for a long time. They should forecast sales and earnings in dollar terms and not only evaluate a product’s technical ability. If they are financial-statements-challenged, they should join hands with others who know some accounting and finance. This may prove to be a fruitful partnership.

Q:  Over the past decade, behavioral finance has attracted much more attention than in the past, perhaps due to several events over the past 25 years that could not be easily explained by the Efficient Market Hypothesis. I recall as an undergraduate student majoring in Finance in the early 1990s that there were few mentions of Warren Buffett or other investors who have routinely achieved market beating returns. Most references to Mr. Buffett tended to dismiss his record as an aberration unlikely to be replicated. Do you see this attitude changing in Finance departments today?

Warren Buffett has had tremendous influence on the academia. In 2003, I invited him to Georgetown University to conduct a question-answer session and the response from the students and the faculty was overwhelming. The finance discipline now acknowledges that professors during the 1970s to 1990s overemphasized the market efficiency paradigm. Fortunately, we have people like Buffett who constantly reminded the academia that the professors had much to learn. And professors have learned. For example, in one of the courses at Georgetown, the first class of the course centers on what we may learn from Warren Buffett. Thanks to Buffett that we do not claim that markets are efficient all the time. It is not easy but if investors work hard, they can beat the indexes and possibly earn very high returns.

Q:  How can investors prepare themselves to mentally deal with temporary declines in the market value of their investments? Even if an investor finds undervalued companies, it is obviously possible for market prices to suffer material declines. We have seen this in Berkshire Hathaway, for example, over the past two years. Is the ability to deal with temporary declines a matter of inherent temperament or personality that cannot be changed, or can investors find ways to improve their investment temperament over time?

Knowledge is the best antidote to making bad decisions. For example, if you know about jewelry and diamonds, all that glitters is not gold for you. Your knowledge will allow you to pick diamonds in the rough and hold on to them. In investing, if you know a lot about certain companies and their managers, you will not become nervous and sell the stock at the wrong time or when the market declines. No wonder, Buffett suggests that you should invest only in companies you understand. Both in 2000 and 2009 when Berkshire stock prices went down by about 50%, I added to my Berkshire holdings.

Q:  Most individual investors attempt to pick stocks on a part time basis. How much time per week do you think is required for part time investors to dedicate to this pursuit? It seems like spending a couple of hours each weekend reading Barron’s or The Wall Street Journal simply wouldn’t be sufficient, yet most people do not have 15 to 20 or more hours per week to delve in more deeply. How should investors think about the time investment required to actively pursue undervalued opportunities?

This is related to an earlier question. If a person has a full time day job, he should study only one industry at a time. Only after he understands one industry, he should move to studying other industries. If he does that, he would not need more than a few hours a week. After several years, he should end up with 20 stocks to invest about 5% in each. In the meantime, he can invest partly in an index fund and party in individual stocks. An average investor need not hold more than 20 stocks in a portfolio. Buffett does not invest in a large number of stocks and most of his holdings are for the long term. In Berkshire, five of the top stocks have often constituted 50% of its total stock holdings. Finally, if a person is very busy and does not have any time to find good stocks, he should simply invest in an index fund such as the Vanguard S&P 500 index fund.

Q:  If an investor decides that he has no particular circle of competence or lacks the time to dedicate to the pursuit, does it make more sense to invest in index funds or in mutual funds such as Fairholme that are run by proven value oriented managers? In your book, you recommend against investing in hedge funds due to the asymmetry that is common in the “2 and 20” compensation models. Does the same caveat apply to value oriented mutual funds? Although they are more cost efficient, certainly index funds remain far cheaper.

For a person who has no particular circle of competence but has decided to invest in the stock market, I recommend investing an index fund and not in mutual funds. An investor is less likely to sell an investment in an index fund when the market goes down than if he were to invest in a mutual fund. I am afraid that the investor would blame the manager for not performing well in a down market and sell all his holdings at the wrong time. It may not be the manager’s fault at all but the investor may not be able to see through the effect of the market on an otherwise well run mutual fund. Even the best of managers do not outperform the market in all the years. The only time a busy investor should invest in a mutual fund is when the investor is extremely comfortable with the manager’s style of investing and has examined it in great detail. It is not enough to simply examine a manager’s past performance and invest with the manager.

Q:  One of the most difficult decisions involves when one must sell an investment at a loss. You cover this topic in the book and suggest that investors should be willing to sell at a loss if subsequent events lead the original investment thesis to be invalid. This is perhaps the most difficult aspect of investing for most people because selling at a loss involves admitting a mistake and making it “permanent”. Is this just a matter of inherent “stubbornness” or can investors take any steps to mentally allow them to sell at a loss with more philosophical detachment?

I think we are hard-wired not to admit mistakes. Selling at a loss is indeed difficult. Or, we are optimistic and hope for an improvement in the stock price. I recommend two specific steps. First, one should write detailed notes whenever a purchase decision is made. Periodically, as the company makes earnings announcements or other important announcements, the notes should be updated. I have benefited from this practice a lot. When individuals are forced to write their thoughts on the paper, they can more easily see the right thing to do. For example, if one has a good knowledge of the company’s products, managers and financial statements, a decline in the stock market may be a good time to invest more in the stock market. Second, they should compute a stock’s intrinsic value periodically. I discuss the concept of intrinsic value in detail in my book.  When the intrinsic value is below the current stock price, they may find it easier to sell.

Q:  Berkshire Hathaway is often misunderstood by the media and characterized as Warren Buffett’s “hedge fund”. This leads many investors to worry about succession at Berkshire. Do you have any views regarding who Mr. Buffett’s successor will be and how confident are you that the success will (a) be able to retain Berkshire’s unique culture and (b) continue Mr. Buffett’s capital allocation track record? It seems like the next CEO will have impossible shoes to fill. Could this result in a “shooting for the moon” attitude that could introduce greater risk at Berkshire?

If the Berkshire board decides to have only one person at the top, I think Ajit Jain is the right person. After all, Buffett talks to him every day, insurance is the most important part of Berkshire, and he has been at Berkshire for about 25 years. (This has nothing to do with the fact that I have the same last name. I don’t know him at all.) The two other names often mentioned are those of Tony Nicely of GEICO and David Sokol of MidAmerican and NetJets. It will however not matter much if any one of the three is the CEO. After all, the Berkshire CEO does not interfere with the subsidiary CEOs.

Yes, the culture! What is the culture at Berkshire, I have often asked myself. Once we reflect on some of the unique features of the Berkshire culture, we are less likely to be concerned about the future of Berkshire even if the next CEO is not as good as Warren Buffett. There are at least two important features of the Berkshire culture. First, the subsidiary CEOs (and employees) are compensated according to what is most meaningful. Buffett has often talked about compensation based on return on assets or other appropriate metrics. This creates a sense of fair play resulting in high productivity. Second, subsidiary CEOs are given independence to make all decisions at the subsidiary level. Hence, Berkshire will continue to do well after Buffett because of its decentralized management structure. The capital allocation process may not be as good as it is today under Buffett but there are many people who have been close to Buffett and my guess is that the new CEO will continue to do a good job for a long time to come.

Professor Jain, this has been very insightful.  Thank you very much.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

A Look Back: Alfred Winslow Jones’s Hedge Fund

By Greenbackd

Alfred Winslow Jones is generally regarded as the progenitor of the modern “hedge fund.” Jones’s strategy, to construct a portfolio 130% long and 30% short (known as “130/30″), seems pretty prosaic by today’s standards, but it was state-of-the-art when he established the partnership A. W. Jones & Co. in 1949. In the April 1966 Fortune article, The Jones Nobody Keeps Up With (.pdf), by Carol Loomis (the same Carol Loomis who edits Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway shareholder letters), Loomis described Jones’s strategy thus:

[The] fund’s capital is both leveraged and “hedged.” The leverage arises from the fact that the fund margins itself to the hilt; the hedge is provided by short position – there are always some in the fund’s portfolio.

How did Jones’s “hedge” work?

In effect, the hedge concept puts Jones in a position to make money on both rising and falling stocks, and also partially shelters him if he misjudges the general trend of the market. He assumes that a prudent investor wants to protect part of his capital from such misjudgements. Most investors would build there defenses around cash reserves or bonds, but Jones protects himself by selling short.

And his strategy seemed to perform. Loomis reports that he was up 670 percent for the ten-year period to May 1965. Here’s Jones’s performance chart from the article (performance of a $100,000 investment net of fees):

Particularly interesting was Loomis’s assessment of Jones’s ability to predict the direction of the market:

Jones’s record in forecasting the direction of the market seems to have been only fair. In the early part of 1962 he had his investors in a high risk position of 140 [indicating Jones was unhedged 140% long]. As the market declined, he gradually increased his short position, but not as quickly as he should have. his losses that spring were heavy, and his investors ended up with a small loss for the fiscal year (this is the only losing year in Jones’s history). After the break, furthermore, he turned bearish and so did not at first benefit from the market’s recovery. Last year, as it happens, Jones remain quite bullish through the May-June decline, and then got bearish just about the time the big rally began. As prices rose in August, Jones actually moved to a minus 18 risk – i.e., his short positions exceeded his longs, with the unhedged short position amounting to 18 percent of partnership capital.

A perfect contrary indicator. Regardless, he seems to have generally been right when purchasing individual stocks:

Despite these miscalculations about the direction of the market, Jones’s selections of individual stocks have generally been brilliant.

Loomis credits someone else with the idea for the limited partnership structure and fee calculation adopted by Jones:

The idea is common to all the hedge funds, and the idea was not original with Jones. Benjamin Graham, for one, had once run a limited partnership along the same lines.

It’s hard to find a place in investment where Ben Graham hasn’t gone first.

April 06, 2010

Eric Sprott Stays Bearish on Economic Recovery, Bullish on Gold

Click here to listen to an interview with Eric Sprott, dated March 27, 2010, or visit the source page.

"Eric Sprott has over 35 years of experience in the investment industry and manages roughly $5 billion.  Eric has been stunningly accurate in his writings for quite some time and is one of the highly respected industry professionals who foresaw the current crisis and chronicled the dangers of excessive leverage as well as the bubbles the Fed was creating while correctly forecasting the tragic collapse we are all enduring.  In this interview Eric discusses the stock market, bond market, inflation, deflation, gold, silver, gold stocks, consolidation in the gold sector, the economy, the US Dollar, paper currencies globally, tax revenues going down, layoffs in US government jobs in states, oil and much more."

Kevin Byun on Equity Market Folly, Dangers of Protectionism, and 'Mr. Magoo' Pretenders

Kevin Byun, Denali InvestorsH. Kevin Byun, managing partner of Denali Investors, provides some enlightening commentary in his just-released Q1 letter to investors. Byun argues that the equity market is behaving as irrationally on the upside today as it did on the downside in late 2008 and early 2009. He attributes some of the recently exuberant action to so-called "Mr. Magoo pretenders" who suffered big losses in 2008 and may still be chasing their high watermarks. In a quest to recoup losses and get paid, Messieurs Magoo appear content to gamble with their investors' capital, risking disaster yet again. Byun also discusses his concerns surrounding the recent rise of protectionism.

Download Byun's Q1 letter or keep reading his market commentary here:

The first quarter of 2010 has been marked by a continued upward creep in the markets, in stark contrast to recent fear and dislocation. From the lows reached far back in March, when the S&P broke to 667, we have seen a rally of over 75%.

2010, as it turns out, is a make-or-break year for many funds. The severe drawdown in 2008 and massive run-up in 2009 showed once again that it is better to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally. With many funds still below high water marks, their urgency for near-term performance in 2010 is greatly magnified. How can these fund managers properly invest with a long-term view when a short-term sword of Damocles hangs precariously above? Can these Mr. Magoo pretenders make it another year? And so career risk, business risk, and behavioral finance, rather than the best interests of their investors, comes to the fore.

With 2010 shaping up to be another interesting year, my view remains that the potential big-picture range and probability of outcomes have widened considerably, although the expected value or average represented through the market may appear narrow. With all the dislocations, machinations, and interventions, the potential energy in the markets is building once again. Exactly how and when the kinetic shifts occur remain an unknown, but the set up to dramatic changes appears to be in place. Expect the water to be choppy.

One related area that has become a topic of increasing attention, just to pick one out of the hat, is that of exchange rates, namely the call coming from some corners for China to let their currency float. From my perspective, it is not analytically prudent to draw a line in the sand on the issue due to the tricky and ever present law of unintended consequences. There are many interpretations even for concepts far simpler than floating and fixed rate frameworks, but let’s venture through. Regarding these unintended consequences, I would like to humbly present the following words as food for thought.

I often see politicians on the news putting the issue in binary terms, as right versus wrong, as good versus bad, as us versus them. This may prove to be a great disservice. Indeed, our country has outsourced many jobs, and low level ones at that. But this means we have also outsourced our unemployment and social unrest. Can you imagine what our unemployment number would look like if the capital base and employee base that supplies our goods just from China were simply put inside the US? Would it surprise you that this would approach Great Depression numbers? The migrant workers and unemployed masses of the Great Depression actually do exist today. But it simply goes unnoticed here because that too has been outsourced!

Conversely, what I have never seen a politician ever mention in the exchange rate debate is the likely resulting inflation. Why not? The average person is already stretched and living paycheck to paycheck. The group that will be impacted the most, which is that same group to which politicians pander, will find costs for basic items moving further out of range. Does it make sense that twenty pairs of tube socks from China are available for $8 retail? For every dollar prices for these tube socks move up to reflect true domestic and rate adjusted costs, a dollar less is available for other necessities. Such limited financial resources create an increasingly desperate zero sum game. Do I buy food or do I buy school supplies for the kids? If exchange rates do float and there is inflation, what will be the call to action then? Who will be the scapegoat? This may result in further finger pointing and a resurgence of social unrest, trade tariffs, trade barriers, and protectionism. This will be part of a negative reflexive process that may have much more severe and unfortunate consequences. But no one is talking about that.

If you are intellectually honest, you have to admit this is not a simple scenario to figure out for which this discussion barely scratches the surface and does not do justice.

As such, I present the following parable not as an answer, but as a surprisingly liberating approach for the analytical mind. It is a story my father told me a long time ago.

“Seh-Ong Ji Ma”
(Seh-Ong’s Wise Horse)

There was a farmer named Seh-Ong that had a beautiful and strong horse. The neighbors complimented, “You are so lucky to have such a beautiful and strong horse.” The farmer replied, “We’ll see.”

Days later, the horse ran away from the farm and could not be found. The neighbors wailed, “You are so unlucky to have lost such a beautiful and strong horse.” The farmer replied, “We’ll see.”

Days later, the farmer’s horse returned, but had brought back seven other wild horses that were equally beautiful and strong. The neighbors complimented, “You are so lucky to have so many beautiful and strong horses.” The farmer replied, “We’ll see.”

Days later, the farmer’s son was attempting to train one of the wild horses, fell off the horse, and broke his leg. The neighbors wailed, “You are so unlucky to have your son break his leg.” The farmer replied, “We’ll see.”

Days later, the king’s army came through to take all the able-bodied young men for war. The neighbors complimented, “You are so lucky to have your son spared from the war.”

The farmer replied, “We’ll see.”

For me, this is one of the most powerful, simple, and elegant lessons of life and, therefore, investing.

Read Kevin Byun's Q1 2010 Denali Investors letter.

Download Kevin's 2009 presentation at Columbia Business School.

Read an excerpt of our exclusive interview with Kevin.

March 27, 2010

Learning From Michael Burry

Tariq Ali's Street Capitalist blog has an excellent analysis of Michael Burry's posts on a value investing thread he started in 1996.

Read it here.

March 23, 2010

The Palaeontology of Michael Burry

By Greenbackd

Dr. Michael Burry has been a very popular topic on Greenbackd recently as a result of Michael Lewis’s The Big Short and the Vanity Fair article Betting on the Blind Side. I have posted a link to Burry’s techstocks.com “Value Investing” thread (now Silicon Investor) and another to Burry’s Scion Capital investor letters, but the thirst for all things Burry remains undiminished. The New York Times now has an article, The Origins of Michael Burry, Online, discussing some of Burry’s early postings on his techstocks.com thread. Here Burry discusses his strategy for shorting:

I mentioned that I pick stocks to short based on valuation, not ratios (I ask you to find the correct free cash flow — I bet most people don’t kow they’re working with negative net working capital, either). But I ENTER based on technical analysis. KO could go up or down. The odds are down, technically, but that’s what buy stops are for. This isn’t a long term short by any means. Research on shorts show that profitable shorts make money with small gains, not by waiting for businesses to bankrupt. The small gains are usually there for the picking. Another indicator – if it’s mentioned in Barron’s as a buy three different times <g> — set me onto Wells Fargo.

What’s there to understand about Coke? The business is a KISS model. This gets to my value/short strategy. When people start claiming a business deserves a special valuation above all reasonable fundamental analysis (because of the “franchise”, because there’s so little institutional ownership for a big cap growth stock, because Buffett’s in it, because global expansion will provide endless opportunity, because ROE is so damned high, because it’s nearly a monopoly, because Buffett’s in it…), that’s a short, IMO.

I just read a bunch of Graham, and he doesn’t deal with shorts (I assume it would be “speculation”), but EMT isn’t all that its panned to be either, IMO.

Just trying to think independently,

Mike

The NYT has also unearthed a Forbes magazine article from 2000:

VALUESTOCKS.NET www.valuestocks.net Supposedly for value investors, though Warren Buffett might not agree with this definition of value. Run by a 28-year-old neurology resident, Dr. Michael Burry, Valuestocks.net showcases Burry’s own $50,000 portfolio, which includes some surprising choices including Pixar, the maker of Toy Story. Has good information on how to identify net-net stocks (trading for less than assets minus all conceivable liabilities). Accompanying all this are Burry’s incisive reports, as good as anything from Wall Street. One of the site’s best features is a list of essential finance texts, including thumbnail reviews and links to Amazon.com (Burry’s only source of revenue, since he doesn’t accept banner ads). BEST: Original analysis, links to great finance sites, and a must-read book list for value investors. WORST: Limited content is sometimes dated.

It seems Greenbackd is rapidly, if unintentionally, becoming Mike Burry’s Of Permanent Value, which is Andrew Kilpatrick’s encyclopedic collection of stories about Warren Buffett. Incidentally, my copy of Of Permanent Value is around ten years old, which means it’s one-third the size of the 2010 edition (I’m not even joking. Mine came in a single volume, and it now seems to be a three-volume extravaganza. Buffett has been busy over the last 10 years).

March 22, 2010

'There’s Only One Maltese Falcon': A Profile of Carl Icahn

By Greenbackd

The New York Times has a fantastic profile on Carl Icahn called Does Icahn Still Make Them Tremble?

He is one of Wall Street’s most colorful, controversial and complicated characters.

Wearing slightly rumpled khakis and waving his eyeglasses to punctuate key points, Mr. Icahn is constantly jumping from one topic to another in an endless stream of dialogue. In that respect, he more closely resembles an absent-minded professor than a master of the universe.

Corporate executives visiting his offices walk through hallways adorned with paintings of battle scenes and sculptures of cowboys on bucking broncos. One large painting in the conference room features a lion gazing at the bones of an animal in a desert.

Yet he bristles at being labeled a “raider,” despite the fact that he is widely viewed as a founding member of the clan that roamed Wall Street in the 1980s, occasionally pursuing hostile takeovers with ruthless abandon.

He prefers to paint his role in those years with the same “activist investor” brush he holds today, arguing that he has created tens of billions of dollars of value for shareholders in companies in which he invested. (In conversations, he declares that he has created $30 billion, $40 billion and even $50 billion worth of value for shareholders. What is a few billion among friends?)

This is Icahn’s thesis for his investments in the biotechnology sector:

“The biotechs have been his big winners recently,” particularly investments in ImClone Systems and MedImmune, said Mr. Young at Institutional Shareholder Services. “His thesis, which is no secret, is that biotech firms should be purchased by Big Pharma, which is always in need of new products. In his mind, that’s a match made in heaven.”

I love this story:

Mr. Icahn does not seem to let anything, including a very close friendship, get in the way of protecting his and his investors’ profits. Late in 2008, through his hedge fund, he sued Realogy, a real estate company controlled by Leon Black, the head of the private equity firm Apollo Management. Mr. Black was trying to reduce Realogy’s hefty debt load by offering to exchange some of the debt with bondholders.

Mr. Icahn, a bondholder who has known and been friends with Mr. Black for decades — the two have been longtime tennis partners — objected to some terms of the exchange and sued.

“Carl and I have been good friends for over 25 years,” Mr. Black said in an e-mail message. “Occasionally we skirmish as couples are wont to do, but I believe we both feel that when the chips are down that the friendship is paramount.”

How, exactly, does one sue and still be good friends with someone on Wall Street? Mr. Icahn smiles sagely over his cup of coffee: “The two of us have a saying that we always use whenever there is friction in our business dealings. We always say, ‘there’s only one Maltese Falcon.’ ”

At one point in that classic 1941 film, a character chasing a valuable figurine says to a close associate, “You’ve been like a son to me,” Mr. Icahn explains, paraphrasing from the movie.

Then, lowering his voice with mock intensity, Mr. Icahn adds that the character says that if you lose a son, it’s possible to get another — “but there’s only one Maltese Falcon.’ ”

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March 18, 2010

Michael Burry & John Paulson: Quirks? Or the Secrets of Their Success?

From The Wall Street Journal's Deal Journal:

Michael Burry and John Paulson both made a killing betting against the housing market.

As a result, the fortunes of Burry, Scion Capital’s founder, and Paulson, of Paulson & Co., have earned them spots as the subjects of books: Burry, as the subject of Michael Lewis’s “The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine,” and Paulson, as the subject of Wall Street Journal reporter Gregory Zuckerman’s “The Greatest Trade Ever.” Zuckerman also touches on Burry in his book.

But looking at the portraits from the two books, these two investors have more in common than their money. Here are some quirks Burry and Paulson share:

They were viewed as different, even socially awkward. Burry believed you had to be unusual to succeed. And he was. “He found it maddeningly difficult to read people’s nonverbal signals, and their verbal signals he often took more literally than they meant them. When trying his best, he was often at his worst,” Lewis writes.

Paulson, similarly, seemed different than his peers. They dressed casually; he wore ties and dark suits. They were making money; he wasn’t. “When he met with clients, they sometimes were surprised by his limp handshake and restrained manner, both unusual in an industry full of bluster,” Zuckerman writes.

Obsessive. Both lived inside their heads for hours at a time, reading hundred-plus-page mortgage-bond prospectuses and studying the housing market to plan their strategies.

“His mind had no temperate zone: he was either possessed by a subject or not interested in it at all,” Lewis writes of Burry.

Paulson’s growing fixation on housing even sparked doubts about his business, writes Zuckerman. “One long-time client, big Swiss bank Union Bancaire Privée, received an urgent warning from a contact that Mr. Paulson was “straying” from his longtime focus, and that the bank should pull its money from Paulson & Co., fast.”

But this obsessiveness likely helped the men in their search for investors supporting the risky bets against the housing market. By mid- 2005, “Burry’s fund was up 242%, and he was turning away investors.” And Paulson made $15 billion for his firm in 2007 alone. (Read an interview with Gregory Zuckerman in Newsweek.)

They did it their way. Neither Burry nor Paulson were experts in derivatives, mortgages or real estate. Burry, a former medical resident, was a self-taught investor, and Paulson focused specialized in corporate mergers.

“Burry did not think investing could be reduced to a formula or learned from any one role model. The more he studied [Warren] Buffett, the less he thought Buffett could be copied.” Lewis writes. “Indeed, the lesson of Buffett was: To succeed in a spectacular fashion you had to be spectacularly unusual.”

March 15, 2010

60 Minutes Interview with Michael Burry, Value Investor Who Bought CDSs on Subprime Mortgages

Another snippet:

March 14, 2010

A Conversation with George Soros at Hong Kong University

A Conversation with George Soros at HKU from JMSC HKU on Vimeo.

March 10, 2010

Aaron Edelheit on Contango's 'Strange Foray into Gold'

Respected value investor Aaron Edelheit writes a very interesting piece on his excellent blog:

A very, very strange thing happened to a company I follow called Contango Oil & Gas (AMEX: MCF). This is an extremely well-run company that generates tons of cash from natural gas in the Gulf of Mexico. You couldn’t ask for a more efficient and well run company. Consider that Contango has raised $60.5 million in its life and yet has already bought back $65 million, thus having a negative capital situation due to negative dilution. Quite an astonishing task for a commodity company. Further the company’s costs are the lowest around with their find, develop and acquire costs at a measly $1.36 per mcf (thousand cubic feet).

Mr. Ken Peak, the CEO, is a straight shooter, no-nonsense kind of CEO. In fact, I wish most CEOs were more like him. In their last press release for earnings, Mr. Peak said, “Concerning natural gas prices, the weather is cooperating on the demand side, but natural gas supply continues to hold steady. I wouldn’t be surprised by either $3.00 or $6.00 natural gas over the next year or so, but we have good prospects and are aggressively moving forward to drill.” Now how many CEOs would have the guts to say that $3 mcf natural gas prices could happen? Compare him to Chesapeake Energy’s rather repugnant CEO, Aubrey McClendon, who is a perma-bull who enriches himself at shareholder’s expense and has created no value for shareholders.

For disclosure purposes, I have invested in Contango in the past and wrote a research report on it at $38.30, exclaiming how cheap it was. I have since taken my profits with its move to over $50 per share and reallocated my money elsewhere. I still follow Contango, in case it sells off again, and to see what Mr. Peak is doing.

So imagine my surprise when I see Monday’s press release, which has been getting absolutely zero press or news. Contango, which has been strictly an oil & gas company, announced that they were making an investment of up to $3 million in looking in Alaska for gold!

Here is what Mr. Peak said:

“This investment does not signal, foreshadow or represent a change in our natural gas and oil exploration business model. We recognize that the risks and challenges inherent in gold exploration are quite different from our natural gas and oil exploration business and were attracted to invest in this project solely by what we perceive to be its reward/risk ratio, where a relatively small amount of initial exploration risk capital ($3 to $5 million is envisioned) could potentially lead to a more extensive gold exploration/development project. Our 2009 exploration program found relatively few samples of commercial grade gold ore – generally considered to be 0.5 grams per tonne or more – but we believe our results merit an expanded exploration program for the summer of 2010.”

Mr. Peak continued, “Our planned 2010 exploration program will be directed toward additional rock sampling, trenching and drilling core holes. Shareholders are reminded that at this early exploration stage our investment should be considered as nothing more than an ‘interesting speculation’ and that the odds of our ultimately being successful in finding gold in a volume sufficient to support a commercial gold mining operation are quite low. To put it in oil and gas parlance, this ‘play’ is the rankest of ‘wildcats’ that is currently only at the ‘idea’ stage and we are hoping, based on our 2010 work program, to learn if we can mature it to the ‘prospect’ stage in order to justify committing additional risk exploration capital. After we have taken our core, rock and pan samples, they will be assayed in an independent lab and then evaluated for prospectivity and commercial development potential. This process will likely take until December 2010.” Here is the link to the release: Contango Gold Investment

I think this is a big warning sign. Neither Contango, nor Mr. Peak, as far as I know have any experience looking for gold, and the company has made all of its money on natural gas. This investment raises a host of questions. What also does it say about the natural gas market, or Mr. Peak’s view of it, that he would be willing to spend $3 million on gold instead of drilling for natural gas? What does it say about the value of Contango’s stock, that Mr. Peak would rather search for gold and not buy his own stock back?

But then I pause my this line of questioning and remember that Mr. Peak has been an excellent allocator of capital and has an excellent eye for value. So, I turn the question around and ask, what does it say about Mr. Peak and Contango’s thoughts on gold and the future of gold?

I think this news deserves a lot more attention and analysis. I know Contango is much smaller, but could you imagine if Exxon announced they were looking for gold? Ken Peak and Contango have an excellent reputation and are held in high regard, their decision should be viewed no less important than if a major such as Exxon had announced it.

Miguel Barbosa Interviews James Montier

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March 05, 2010

Seth Klarman’s Twenty Investment Lessons of 2008

By Greenbackd

Seth Klarman’s teachings, which I’ve covered on this site on several occasions (see, for example, Klarman on calculating liquidation value, on identifying catalysts, and on investing in liquidations), are always worth reading. In his most recent investor letter Klarman has provided a list of twenty investment lessons of 2008 (via the always superb Zero Hedge):

  1. Things that have never happened before are bound to occur with some regularity. You must always be prepared for the unexpected, including sudden, sharp downward swings in markets and the economy. Whatever adverse scenario you can contemplate, reality can be far worse.
  2. When excesses such as lax lending standards become widespread and persist for some time, people are lulled into a false sense of security, creating an even more dangerous situation. In some cases, excesses migrate beyond regional or national borders, raising the ante for investors and governments. These excesses will eventually end, triggering a crisis at least in proportion to the degree of the excesses. Correlations between asset classes may be surprisingly high when leverage rapidly unwinds.
  3. Nowhere does it say that investors should strive to make every last dollar of potential profit; consideration of risk must never take a backseat to return. Conservative positioning entering a crisis is crucial: it enables one to maintain long-term oriented, clear thinking, and to focus on new opportunities while others are distracted or even forced to sell. Portfolio hedges must be in place before a crisis hits. One cannot reliably or affordably increase or replace hedges that are rolling off during a financial crisis.
  4. Risk is not inherent in an investment; it is always relative to the price paid. Uncertainty is not the same as risk. Indeed, when great uncertainty – such as in the fall of 2008 – drives securities prices to especially low levels, they often become less risky investments.
  5. Do not trust financial market risk models. Reality is always too complex to be accurately modeled. Attention to risk must be a 24/7/365 obsession, with people – not computers – assessing and reassessing the risk environment in real time. Despite the predilection of some analysts to model the financial markets using sophisticated mathematics, the markets are governed by behavioral science, not physical science.
  6. Do not accept principal risk while investing short-term cash: the greedy effort to earn a few extra basis points of yield inevitably leads to the incurrence of greater risk, which increases the likelihood of losses and severe illiquidity at precisely the moment when cash is needed to cover expenses, to meet commitments, or to make compelling long-term investments.
  7. The latest trade of a security creates a dangerous illusion that its market price approximates its true value. This mirage is especially dangerous during periods of market exuberance. The concept of “private market value” as an anchor to the proper valuation of a business can also be greatly skewed during ebullient times and should always be considered with a healthy degree of skepticism.
  8. A broad and flexible investment approach is essential during a crisis. Opportunities can be vast, ephemeral, and dispersed through various sectors and markets. Rigid silos can be an enormous disadvantage at such times.
  9. You must buy on the way down. There is far more volume on the way down than on the way back up, and far less competition among buyers. It is almost always better to be too early than too late, but you must be prepared for price markdowns on what you buy.
  10. Financial innovation can be highly dangerous, though almost no one will tell you this. New financial products are typically created for sunny days and are almost never stress-tested for stormy weather. Securitization is an area that almost perfectly fits this description; markets for securitized assets such as subprime mortgages completely collapsed in 2008 and have not fully recovered. Ironically, the government is eager to restore the securitization markets back to their pre-collapse stature.
  11. Ratings agencies are highly conflicted, unimaginative dupes. They are blissfully unaware of adverse selection and moral hazard. Investors should never trust them.
  12. Be sure that you are well compensated for illiquidity – especially illiquidity without control – because it can create particularly high opportunity costs.
  13. At equal returns, public investments are generally superior to private investments not only because they are more liquid but also because amidst distress, public markets are more likely than private ones to offer attractive opportunities to average down.
  14. Beware leverage in all its forms. Borrowers – individual, corporate, or government – should always match fund their liabilities against the duration of their assets. Borrowers must always remember that capital markets can be extremely fickle, and that it is never safe to assume a maturing loan can be rolled over. Even if you are unleveraged, the leverage employed by others can drive dramatic price and valuation swings; sudden unavailability of leverage in the economy may trigger an economic downturn.
  15. Many LBOs are man-made disasters. When the price paid is excessive, the equity portion of an LBO is really an out-of-the-money call option. Many fiduciaries placed large amounts of the capital under their stewardship into such options in 2006 and 2007.
  16. Financial stocks are particularly risky. Banking, in particular, is a highly lever- aged, extremely competitive, and challenging business. A major European bank recently announced the goal of achieving a 20% return on equity (ROE) within several years. Unfortunately, ROE is highly dependent on absolute yields, yield spreads, maintaining adequate loan loss reserves, and the amount of leverage used. What is the bank’s management to do if it cannot readily get to 20%? Leverage up? Hold riskier assets? Ignore the risk of loss? In some ways, for a major financial institution even to have a ROE goal is to court disaster.
  17. Having clients with a long-term orientation is crucial. Nothing else is as important to the success of an investment firm.
  18. When a government official says a problem has been “contained,” pay no attention.
  19. The government – the ultimate short- term-oriented player – cannot with- stand much pain in the economy or the financial markets. Bailouts and rescues are likely to occur, though not with sufficient predictability for investors to comfortably take advantage. The government will take enormous risks in such interventions, especially if the expenses can be conveniently deferred to the future. Some of the price-tag is in the form of back- stops and guarantees, whose cost is almost impossible to determine.
  20. Almost no one will accept responsibility for his or her role in precipitating a crisis: not leveraged speculators, not willfully blind leaders of financial institutions, and certainly not regulators, government officials, ratings agencies or politicians.

See also Klarman’s False Lessons of 2009.

March 04, 2010

Buffett Clarifies Retained Earnings Policy

By Ravi Nagarajan

Warren Buffett includes an “Owner’s Manual” for Berkshire Hathaway shareholders in each annual report which is also available separately on the company’s web site.  The Owner’s Manual does not change very often which is appropriate since it is supposed to communicate basic business principles that are not likely to change each year.  For this reason, it was easy to miss a change that has significant implications for Berkshire Hathaway’s earnings retention policy going forward.

Original Retained Earnings Test

The following statement has been documented as business principle #9 ever since Mr. Buffett published the Owner’s Manual in 1983:

We feel noble intentions should be checked periodically against results. We test the wisdom of retaining earnings by assessing whether retention, over time, delivers shareholders at least $1 of market value for each $1 retained. To date, this test has been met. We will continue to apply it on a five-year rolling basis. As our net worth grows, it is more difficult to use retained earnings wisely.

The basic meaning of this business principle is that earnings retention must, in the long run, deliver at least $1 in market value to shareholders for each $1 that management retains.  It had the virtue of simplicity and was also very easy to measure.  Anyone can calculate Berkshire’s retained earnings for a five year rolling period and then examine whether the retained earnings resulted in a corresponding rise in market value.

Limitations With Original Principle

While the principle is simple and measurable, there are clearly problems with the way it is formulated.  It is obvious that over the past decade, valuation extremes were common for companies both on the upside and downside.  As Mr. Buffett noted in his latest shareholder letter, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer and General Electric CEO Jeff Immelt both had the misfortune of taking over as CEO near the peak of a bubble in their company’s stock valuation.  Just as it is difficult to evaluate the performance of these CEOs over the past decade based on share price performance alone, it is difficult to evaluate the wisdom of earnings retention using the same standard.

Berkshire’s Modified Earnings Retention Test

The updated version of Berkshire Hathaway’s earnings test reads as follows:

I should have written the “five-year rolling basis” sentence differently, an error I didn’t realize until I received a question about this subject at the 2009 annual meeting.  When the stock market has declined sharply over a five-year stretch, our market-price premium to book value has sometimes shrunk. And when that happens, we fail the test as I improperly formulated it. In fact, we fell far short as early as 1971-75, well before I wrote this principle in 1983.

The five-year test should be: (1) during the period did our book-value gain exceed the performance of the S&P; and (2) did our stock consistently sell at a premium to book, meaning that every $1 of retained earnings was always worth more than $1? If these tests are met, retaining earnings has made sense.

It must be noted that any modification of a long standing test that recently failed should be treated with a healthy dose of skepticism.  Is management changing the test due to a legitimate problem in the formulation of the original wording or is the goal line simply being moved?  The fact that the CEO is Warren Buffett does not mean that this question should not be asked.

Mr. Buffett’s argument is that the original test was improperly formulated because markets can remain extreme for a long period of time, which is certainly true.  During such times, Berkshire’s price to book value often falls.  This is certainly the case as we noted in The Rational Walk’s Berkshire Hathaway Briefing Book. As Mr. Buffett notes, this also happened during the early 1970s far before he formulated the Owner’s Manual principles.

Allowing Mr. Market to dictate earnings retention policy even over a five year period can cause unintended consequences.  For example, Berkshire Hathaway failed to meet the test at the market lows in 2009.  A strict interpretation of the original rule would have forced a dividend in February or March 2009 and would have limited the capital available to Mr. Buffett to take advantage of opportunities caused by the market crash.  This would not have served shareholder interests.

Does the New Rule Make Sense?

The new retention principle says that the litmus test should be whether Berkshire’s book value gain exceeded the performance of the S&P 500 and whether the stock consistently sells at a premium to book – meaning a price to book ratio of at least 1.  Based on this formulation, Berkshire would have passed the earnings retention test even at the 2009 lows.

One obvious problem with the new rule is that book value is only a rough proxy of changes in Berkshire’s intrinsic value, as Mr. Buffett himself tells us in his shareholder letters.  In addition, Mr. Buffett has told us that intrinsic value far exceeds book value.  From a directional standpoint, changes in book value are likely to signal changes in intrinsic value, but a price to book ratio of 1.0 or 1.1 is almost sure to signal an undervaluation of Berkshire shares.

Under the new rule, future managements at Berkshire could argue that earnings should be retained under the new test even if the price to book value is only slightly above 1.0 provided that the change in book value over a five year period at least exceeds the S&P 500 change.

One other objection is that looking at Berkshire’s overall price to book value ratio does not measure the wisdom of retention of incremental capital.  It is perfectly possible to have value destroying earnings retention coincide with maintenance of a price to book value ratio well in excess of 1.0 because of the cumulative effect of decades of good decisions that have created the bulk of the intrinsic value.  At the margin, earnings retention could still destroy value while the price to book ratio remains above 1.0, although below what it otherwise might have been without earnings retention.

No Substitute for Management Judgment

The bottom line is that few shareholders would have wanted Mr. Buffett to declare a dividend in March 2009.  Shareholders trust his judgment based on his cumulative history at Berkshire and are willing to grant a huge amount of latitude based simply on the track record.

The problem with attempting to define this type of rule is that some element of management judgment is always going to be required when deciding on earnings retention policy.  Only after a period of time passes will shareholders be able to evaluate whether the retained earnings created value or not.  Future CEOs at Berkshire Hathaway will find it impossible to alter any of the business principles in any way whatsoever because they will be accused of trying to modify the company culture.  Therefore, Berkshire shareholders must be comfortable with these principles as they apply to the next CEO, not just Mr. Buffett.

The fact that Berkshire Hathaway has an Owner’s Manual with clear principles is a great example for other companies to follow but the recent revision to the earnings retention test demonstrates the inherent limitations associated with static principles that meet the irrational behavior of Mr. Market.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

The author owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway and is the author of The Rational Walk’s Berkshire Hathaway 2010 Briefing Book which provides a detailed analysis of the company along with estimates of intrinsic value.

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March 01, 2010

Nooyi, Buffett on Pepsi and Coke

Buffett on Currencies, Market Lessons & More

Buffett on the Economy, Politics

Buffett on Deal Making, Financial Regulation

Buffett on Obama

Buffett on Health Care

Buffett on Succession Planning & Investing

Buffett on Banks, Earthquakes & More

February 27, 2010

Marty Whitman Reflects on Value Investing and Net-Nets

By Ravi Nagarajan

Marty WhitmanDespite a snowstorm that caused the absence of several speakers, the Columbia Investment Management Conference in New York today included many interesting presentations and panel discussions.  The highlight of the day was the conversation between Columbia Professor Bruce Greenwald and Martin Whitman, Founder and Portfolio Manager of Third Avenue Management.

Mr. Whitman has a sixty year history in the investment management field and represents a distinguished voice of experience we can all learn from.  This article includes several topics that were included in the discussion between Prof. Greenwald and Mr. Whitman but it is not a complete transcript and, unless otherwise noted, is based on the authors notes and recollection of the conversation rather than a presentation of direct quotes.

The Evolution of a Value Investor

Most investors who have arrived at a “value oriented” strategy moved toward the approach over a period of time.  Many of us know the story of Warren Buffett reading every book on investing in the Omaha library but not reaching the conclusion that value investing represents the best strategy until reading Ben Graham’s The Intelligent Investor in 1950.  A similar “evolution” was the case for Mr. Whitman who entered the business as a security analyst at Shearson, Hammil in 1950.  For the first four years, Mr. Whitman focused on many of the traditional benchmarks that security analysts today still concentrate on such as earnings per share growth and predicting near term price movements.

In 1955, Mr. Whitman read Between the Sheets by William J. Hudson which is a book (currently out of print) regarding the importance of paying particular attention to the balance sheet.  This book combined with several real life examples at the time convinced Mr. Whitman that emphasizing balance sheet quality should be more heavily considered in the field of security analysis.  Mr. Whitman also gained a great deal of experience working as a portfolio analyst for William Rosenwald starting in 1956. Experience in stockholder litigation and bankruptcy, fields that were shunned at the time, also provided important lessons regarding analyzing the capital structure of distressed firms.

“Cheap is Not Sufficient”

At several points in the discussion with Prof. Greenwald, Mr. Whitman came back to a central theme:  It is not sufficient for a security to be “cheap”.  It must also possess a margin of safety as demonstrated by a strong balance sheet and overall credit worthiness.   In other words, there are many securities that may appear cheap statistically based on a number of common criteria investors use to judge “cheapness”.  This might include current year earnings compared to the stock price, current year cash flow, and many others.  However, if the business does not have a durable balance sheet, adverse situations that are either of the company’s own making or due to macroeconomic factors can determine the ultimate fate of the company.  A durable balance sheet demonstrates the credit worthiness a business needs to manage through periodic adversity.

A New Take on Graham’s “Net-Nets”

Mr. Whitman believes that it is a “myth” that there are no “net-net” opportunities available in the market today.  We discussed Graham’s concept of net-nets in a prior article and came up with some examples of such opportunities over the past year (for example, see the articles on Hurco and George Risk Industries).  However, such opportunities are very rare and often exist only in the most thinly traded stocks and therefore are rarely actionable.

Rather than adhering to Ben Graham’s original concept of “net-nets”, Mr. Whitman has made a few modifications.  Instead of using current assets as the store of value, he looks at “readily ascertainable asset value” and tries to buy at a large discount to that value.  Assets that can be readily convertible to cash may include high quality real estate, for example.  In certain situations, assets such as real estate may be more valuable in a liquidation than inventories which are part of current assets but often highly impaired in distressed situations.

One other point that Mr. Whitman made while discussing corporate governance also applies to many net-net situations.  The true value of a company may never come out if there is no threat of a change in control.  This obviously makes intuitive sense because the presence of a very cheap company alone will not result in realization of value unless management is willing to act in the interests of shareholders either by liquidating a business that has no future prospects but a very liquid balance sheet or taking steps to improve the business.

When asked if the management of a typical public company is overpaid, Mr. Whitman said “you’d better believe it” due partly to the fact that most Boards of Directors are “a bunch of wimps, including me.”  This serves as a reminder that there is one other characteristic that many value investors share:  Humility and a willingness to admit errors.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.  

February 25, 2010

Lampert on Maintenance vs. Expansion Capex, Owner Orientation, Regulation and Politics

By Ravi Nagarajan

Edward LampertEdward Lampert, Founder of ESL Investments and Chairman of Sears Holdings Corporation, has released his annual letter to shareholders.  Mr. Lampert’s investment style has often been compared to Warren Buffett’s approach particularly when it comes to capital allocation.  While many companies fail to adhere to disciplined capital allocation practices, Sears has taken a more intelligent approach.

Maintenance vs. Expansion Capital Expenditures

Mr. Lampert has been criticized for failing to make the necessary investments to keep Sears and K-Mart stores competitive.  Personal experience and anecdotal evidence does suggest that Sears Holdings retail properties are not necessarily the most modern facilities in many locations.  However, this fact alone does not automatically justify blindly committing funds to expansion or improvements beyond “maintenance” levels of capital expenditures:

I have written previously about what I believed was the reckless expansion of retail space leading to lower profitability for many retailers and to low or negative returns on the investment required to expand space. In other industries, consolidation rather than expansion has led to a more sensible competitive environment and better returns for shareholders. If you examine the level of capital expenditures over the past decade at many large retailers and compare that expenditure to value created, it would not paint a pretty picture.

Additionally, the dramatic declines in capital expenditures over the past couple of years at most large retailers are strong evidence that the level of maintenance capital expenditures for a big box retailer is materially below what many analysts and experts previously believed. Most of the capital spent over the past decade has been largely for store expansion, with some lesser amount required for maintaining existing stores.

The cost of updating or expanding properties must be weighed against the best possible alternative uses for the funds such as improving Sears’ strongest brands like Kenmore and Craftsman or authorizing share repurchases:

While we continued to repurchase shares during the economic crisis because the value was attractive and because we had significantly lower leverage than others in our industry, many of our competitors suspended their repurchase programs to appease credit rating agencies only to resume them again after their share prices recovered significantly.

Mr. Lampert also criticizes ratings agencies for simplistic analyses that automatically favor capital investment to share repurchases ignoring the fact that capital investment at negative rates of return can end up harming bondholders as well as stockholders.

Owner Orientation

While many executives only pay lip service to “shareholder value” and “management alignment with shareholder interests”, Mr. Lampert’s record and ownership interest in Sears Holdings serves to back up his claims.

We do some things differently than others, and we have certain beliefs that differ from theirs. Our culture is owner-oriented, because we have owners who serve on the board that governs the company. We believe that ownership makes a difference, especially when owners have significant financial interests in the company and a long-term perspective. Instead of this raising concern, rating agencies should welcome and value owners with a demonstrated track record of long-term value creation and conservative capital policies, even when some of the capital allocation preferences differ from those that others believe lead to higher long-term credit performance.

This is the type of owner orientation that makes it preferable to repurchase shares rather than plowing funds into capital expenditures at negative rates of return even though doing the latter is more popular within any organization in the short run and also will win the praises of local community leaders at ribbon cutting events.  The problem with companies that pursue popularity rather than intelligent capital allocation is that eventually the day of reckoning will arrive and the music will stop.

Regulation and Politics

Wading into more controversial topics, Mr. Lampert is critical of policies that may over-regulate the economy by placing government bureaucrats in place of private sector capital allocators when it comes to sustaining an economic recovery.  In terms of financial regulation, Mr. Lampert advocates the removal of the implicit “too big to fail” guarantee which would level the playing field.  However, it is unclear how the government can remove the “too big to fail” perception without some form of regulation to constrain financial institutions from reaching the size and interconnectedness that makes government bailouts inevitable.

Capital can quickly reorganize and provide financing for businesses and projects that create value for our society, without the heavy hand of government planning and policy. I disagree with most people calling for a gigantic overhaul of our financial system led by new and “improved” regulations. Instead, begin the process of allowing more competition in financial services and begin the removal of implicit and explicit government guarantees that provide the perception that some are “too big to fail.” While there are those that claim that their institutions are not too big to fail, they surely recognize the significant competitive advantages that come from this perception. Of course they will accept regulations as long as these regulations do not permit additional competition from entities and institutions that do not take insured deposits, do not have access to Federal Reserve funding, and do not have government guarantees associated with their debt offerings. Regulatory capture comes when there is little competition allowed outside regulated entities and a “freezing” of competitors and innovation in an industry.

Mr. Lampert also protest the special treatment given to Amazon.com and other online retailers that are not required to collect sales and use tax in locations where they do not have a physical presence.  It is difficult to argue with the logic behind treating traditional retailers and online retailers in a uniform manner and the observation that current practices will prove unsustainable as more commerce shifts online.

The real story here is that it is not the payment of taxes or the charging of taxes that is at issue. It is the collection of taxes on behalf of local governments from purchasers of goods and services from stores in a locality or for use in such locality. It is the latter fact that is often ignored. A person who buys products from Amazon.com is required by law to pay sales or use tax to their local jurisdiction. In practice, almost nobody does so. The cost and unpopularity of enforcing such laws has allowed customers to avoid paying sales or use taxes, even though they are required in many states and localities. If you buy a work of art or piece of jewelry in NYC, for example, and have it shipped to New Jersey or California, the seller does not collect sales tax on that purchase but the buyer would be required to pay sales or use tax on the purchase where they receive the merchandise and use the merchandise. So, a piece of jewelry shipped to California would require the buyer to pay California sales or use tax.

Mr. Lampert recommends Thomas Sowell’s latest book Intellectuals and Society.  Although I have not kept up with Mr. Sowell’s work in recent years, I consider one of his previous books, The Vision of the Anointed, to be one of the best essays on the mentality that often drives the decisions of those in high positions of power.

Click on this link to read Edward Lampert’s full letter to Shareholders.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk. 

Disclosure:  The author does not own shares of Sears Holdings.

February 17, 2010

From Cigar Butts to Business Supermodels

By Ravi Nagarajan

Note to Readers:  The following essay is part of an introductory section of an upcoming analysis of Berkshire Hathaway to be published by The Rational Walk shortly after the 2009 Berkshire Hathaway Annual Report is released at the end of February.  The full analysis will be available for purchase as premium content with certain excerpts to be provided on The Rational Walk blog free of charge.

For a formatted PDF File of the following essay, please click on this link.

From Cigar Butts to Business Supermodels

Warren BuffettThere are numerous books and publications that provide detailed accounts of the history of Berkshire Hathaway as well as Warren Buffett’s life and career.  It is also impossible to fully understand Berkshire without studying the life and career of Vice Chairman Charles T. Munger.  A list of resources for those interested in a comprehensive history of the company and its leaders is provided as an appendix to this document (available in the forthcoming full analysis).  This section merely attempts to provide some context regarding the remarkable history of Berkshire Hathaway and Warren Buffett’s investment approach.

Warren Buffett’s Early Investment Philosophy

Benjamin GrahamWarren Buffett’s early investment philosophy was largely based on the principles developed by Benjamin Graham.  Mr. Buffett has stated on many occasions[1] that his view of investing changed dramatically when he first read Mr. Graham’s book, The Intelligent Investor, in early 1950.  Up to that point, Mr. Buffett had read every book on investing available at the Omaha public library but none were as compelling as Mr. Graham’s straight forward approach summarized in the phrase: “Margin of Safety”.

Benjamin Graham’s approach is more fully documented in Security Analysis which, in contrast to The Intelligent Investor, is more targeted toward professional investors.  Mr. Graham’s approach involved examining securities from a quantitative perspective and making purchases only when downside risks are minimized.  This approach rarely involved speaking to management since doing so could adversely influence the analyst’s impartial view of the data.  In particular, Mr. Graham was a proponent of purchasing stocks selling well under “net-net current asset value” arrived at by taking a company’s current assets and subtracting all liabilities.  In such cases, the buyer was paying nothing for the business as a going concern and had some downside protection due to liquid assets far in excess of all liabilities.

Berkshire Hathaway Mill - New Bedford, MAMr. Buffett was able to leverage the “deep value” approach advocated by Benjamin Graham throughout the 1950s.  In the five year period ending in 1961, the Buffett Partnerships trounced the Dow Jones Industrial average with a cumulative return of 251 percent compared to 74.3 percent for the Dow[2].  While Mr. Buffett employed multiple strategies, one approach involved finding companies that fit the “cigar butt” mold, meaning that they had “one puff left” and could be purchased at a deep bargain price.  This approach led Mr. Buffett to begin acquiring shares of Berkshire Hathaway, a struggling New England textile manufacturer, in late 1962. While Berkshire Hathaway was trading well under book value at the time, Mr. Buffett would later say that book value “considerably overstated” intrinsic value[3].

From Cigar Butts to Insurance

Berkshire Hathaway, as it existed in 1963 when the Buffett Partnership became the company’s largest shareholder, was a cheap company from a quantitative perspective but it was not a good company in terms of offering a business that had durable competitive advantages.  In fact, over the next two decades, Berkshire Hathaway continued to invest in the textile mills but would never gain sufficient traction to complete with overseas competitors with lower cost structures.  Textiles are a commodity business and the low price producer has the advantage.  In retrospect, Mr. Buffett’s purchase of Berkshire Hathaway was a mistake[4].

While Berkshire’s textile mills were doomed to eventual failure, a period of profitability[5] appeared in the mid to late 1960s that presented Mr. Buffett with a choice:  He could either reinvest the profits in the textile business or redeploy the funds elsewhere.  Above all else, Mr. Buffett is a master capital allocator.  He could see the troubles brewing in textiles and, despite attempts by Berkshire’s textile managers to obtain capital for new investments, Mr. Buffett chose to deploy the funds elsewhere.

Berkshire’s entry into the insurance business with the purchase of National Indemnity in 1967[6] was a transformational event for the company.  The textile business, despite a temporary period of profitability, required significant capital investments to continue to remain competitive.  In contrast, insurance operations that are well run generate significant cash in the form of “float”.  Float represents funds that are held by an insurance business between the time when policyholders submit payment and when funds are eventually paid out to settle claims.  As long as underwriting practices are sound, float represents a low cost means of funding investments.  By purchasing National Indemnity, Berkshire was on its way to transforming from a textile manufacturer consuming large amounts of capital at low to negative rates of return into an insurance powerhouse generating large amounts of float for investment in other businesses offering better prospects of high returns.

See’s Candies:  The Turning Point

See's CandiesFew Californians can recall a holiday season where See’s Candies were not a prominent part of the festivities.  The brand is so powerful in California and other western states that many consumers would never think of buying a competing product.  See’s Candies is a textbook example of a company with a formidable “moat”.  Such companies have built up brand identity that cannot be replicated by new entrants even with significant capital investments[7].

Charles T. MungerBerkshire Hathaway Vice Chairman Charles Munger has been widely credited with convincing Warren Buffett that there are certain situations where deviating from Benjamin Graham’s “deep value” approach can be justified.  Mr. Munger has rebutted[8] the notion that his influence was a deciding factor in Mr. Buffett’s overall record, but many accounts[9] of the events surrounding the See’s Candies purchase supports the conclusion that Charlie Munger deserves much credit for shifting Berkshire’s bias from cigar butts selling at a “bargain price” to excellent businesses selling at a “fair price”.

See’s Candies is the perfect example of a business that produces an excellent return on equity year after year but requires very little capital investment in order to sustain the “moat” that makes such returns possible.  When Berkshire purchased See’s Candies for $25 million in 1972, the company only had $8 million of net tangible assets.  However, See’s was earning approximately $2 million after tax at the time[10].   $17 million of the $25 million purchase price could not be accounted for by assets on See’s balance sheet but represented the value represented by intangible “brand equity”.

Over the first twenty years of Berkshire’s ownership of See’s Candies, sales increased from $29 million to $196 million while pre-tax profits grew from $4.2 million to $42.4 million.  However, that is not even the most amazing part of the story.  What is more remarkable is that Berkshire Hathaway only had to reinvest $18 million of retained earnings over that twenty year period while $410 million of cumulative pre-tax earnings were sent back to Berkshire for redeployment in other investments[11].

There have been many other key turning points in the history of Berkshire Hathaway but the decision to pay a “premium price” for See Candies in 1972 may best symbolize the transformation of Mr. Buffett’s approach toward investing.  This is perfectly summarized in Mr. Buffett’s 1992 Letter to Shareholders:

In my early days as a manager I, too, dated a few toads.  They were cheap dates – I’ve never been much of a sport – but my results matched those of acquirers who courted higher-priced toads.  I kissed and they croaked.

After several failures of this type, I finally remembered some useful advice I once got from a golf pro (who, like all pros who have had anything to do with my game, wishes to remain anonymous).  Said the pro:  “Practice doesn’t make perfect; practice makes permanent.”  And thereafter I revised my strategy and tried to buy good businesses at fair prices rather than fair businesses at good prices.

Berkshire Hathaway is the company it is today because Mr. Buffett stopped kissing toads like the original Berkshire textile business and started aggressively pursuing supermodels like See’s Candies instead even if they were more “expensive dates”.  As we shall see, Berkshire has no shortage of supermodels today.


Footnotes:

[1] For example, see Mr. Buffett’s preface to any recent edition of The Intelligent Investor.
[2] The Buffett Partnership track record is available in many publications.  See, for example, Roger Lowenstein’s Buffett: The Making of an American Capitalist, 1995 Hardcover Edition, Page 69.
[3] See comment in Berkshire Hathaway Owner’s Manual, Page 5.
[4] Mr. Buffett directly stated that buying Berkshire was a mistake in his 1989 letter to shareholders.
[5] See Lowenstein, Page 133.
[6] For a good history of the National Indemnity purchase, see Lowenstein, pages 133 to 135.
[7] For an excellent brief history of See’s Candies, see Max Olson’s paper entitled Quality without Compromise.
[8] See Mr. Munger’s statement in Poor Charlie’s Almanack, Third Edition, “Rebuttal:  Munger on Buffett”
[9] For example, see Alice Schroeder’s account of the See’s Candies purchase in Snowball:  Warren Buffett and the Business of Life, Chapter 34.
[10] See the appendix to Warren Buffett’s 1983 Letter to Shareholders.
[11] See Warren Buffett’s 1991 Letter to Shareholders.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

Disclosure: The author owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway.

February 13, 2010

Global Value Investor Ori Eyal Discusses Favorite Investment Books

Ori Eyal, EVCMUp-and-coming value investor Ori Eyal of Emerging Value Capital Management recently discussed his investment approach and global investment opportunities in an exclusive interview with Portfolio Manager's Review. The full interview will be published in the forthcoming monthly issue of PMR. Here is a quick excerpt for those looking to pick up a good book:

The Manual of Ideas: Are there any books on value investing, particularly globally oriented investing, that you have found valuable but investors may not be broadly familiar with?

Ori Eyal: Reading voraciously is a characteristic that all great investors share in common. There is simply no better way to gain wisdom and learn about the world than to read great books.

For international investing, Jim Rogers’s earlier books, Investment Biker, Adventure Capitalist, and Hot Commodities are good. The Economist is a great weekly magazine to read and learn about the world. I also think Mohnish Pabrai’s The Dhandho Investor and Joel Greenblatt’s You Can Be a Stock Market Genius are great investing books.

Economics is a key investing skill so I think everyone should read Milton Friedman, especially his books Capitalism and Freedom and Free to Choose.

Trying to forecast what the future will look like is an important investing skill. To this end I recommend books by Ray Kurzweil, Fantastic Voyage and The Singularity Is Near. Bill Gates has called Ray Kurzweil “the best person I know at predicting the future of artificial intelligence.”

To broaden your latticework of mental models, I highly recommend books by Richard Dawkins, Jared Diamond, Richard Feynman, Michael Pollan and John Brockman. I also think Buzzmarketing by Mark Hughes and Influence by Robert Cialdini are must read books.

Finally, I highly recommend the fantastic publications by The Manual of Ideas: Downside Protection Report, Portfolio Manager’s Review, etc. I also think that Value Investor Insight is great.

Read a sample issue of Downside Protection Report.

Read a sample issue of Portfolio Manager's Review.

February 09, 2010

Aaron Edelheit Names 'Off-the-Beaten-Path' Book That Made Him Better Investor

Aaron Edelheit, Sabre ValueRespected value investor Aaron Edelheit of Sabre Value recently discussed his investment approach and current investment opportunities in an exclusive interview with Portfolio Manager's Review. The full interview will be published in the forthcoming monthly issue of the Review. Here is a quick excerpt for those looking to pick up a good book:

The Manual of Ideas: Are there any “off-the-beaten path” books that have made you a better investor?

Aaron Edelheit: I just read a fantastic book called “The First Tycoon,” by T.J. Stiles, about Cornelius Vanderbilt. There were many lessons and ideas I drew from the book about what made him so successful, and I think there is a lot to learn about history as well.

Read the full interview with Edelheit as soon as it is published -- subscribe to Portfolio Manager's Review today.

February 08, 2010

Predictably Clueless, Indianapolis Business Journal Article on Steak n Shake Misinforms, Stokes Fears About Biglari

Sardar Biglari Those of our readers who have followed the evolution of Steak n Shake (SNS) over the past couple of years know that the company has made huge strides in terms of stabilizing operations and creating value for shareholders. Whereas the previous management team almost ran Steak n Shake into the ground, new chairman Sardar Biglari quickly restored the company's fiscal health, ensuring that Steak n Shake will be around for a long time to come. Not least, Steak n Shake's stock price has enjoyed a renaissance of sorts after languishing for years under the old management.

Despite all the positives that Sardar Biglari's involvement has brought to Steak n Shake, the Indianapolis Business Journal (IBJ) has published an article that can hardly be described as anything other than a hatchet job. In the article, Cory Schouten writes:

"Biglari in June persuaded the board to transform Steak n Shake into a holding company for a diverse range of investments and give Biglari sole discretion over asset allocation. The board’s vote essentially allowed the hedge-fund owner to use the publicly traded company as a personal investment vehicle."

"The unanimous vote came after Biglari, the board chairman, managed to push out every board member unwilling to give him dictatorial authority over Steak n Shake despite his relatively modest ownership stake."

"Personal investment vehicle"? "Dictatorial authority"? This language might be more appropriately used to describe the state of Steak n Shake under previous management. Biglari's words -- and, more importantly, actions -- have made it clear that his paramount goal is maximizing long-term value for all Steak n Shake shareholders. Biglari's authority could be described as "dictatorial," but so could every CEO's authority. The question is whether such authority is used for the benefit or detriment of shareholders. In Biglari's case, the business results and stock price of Steak n Shake speak volumes.

The IBJ article also stokes fears about Steak n Shake relocating to Biglari's hometown of San Antonio, Texas, implying that jobs and capital investment might be lost in Indianapolis. We have no problem with a hometown paper looking out for its town, but in this case the IBJ is far off-base. Steak n Shake "The Restaurant Company" will continue to be based in Indianapolis. Meanwhile, Steak n Shake "The Holding Company" will operate out of San Antonio, Texas, likely with a very lean holding company staff.

The inability of organizations such as the IBJ to distinguish between Steak n Shake "The Restaurant Company" and Steak n Shake "The Holding Company" is precisely why Steak n Shake "The Holding Company" will be renamed Biglari Holdings. Listen up, confused IBJ readers: The restaurant business will continue to be called Steak n Shake.

The reader comments posted on the IBJ website show just how destructive it can be in the fast-paced online age when misleading or outright wrong information is spread by a supposedly authoritative voice. Writes IBJ reader Mike,

"This is an unexpected turn of events. I frequent Steak n Shake for many reasons, but mostly b/c of the local headquarters. I for one will not go as often (or ever) if most of the local corporate jobs are moved."

Adds IBJ reader Joe,

"when did we...decide to let sleazeball Iranian refugees (from the Shah's regime no less)purchase/own good 'ol 'Merkan companies and run 'em into the ground...my guess is his family has millions in Swiss bank accounts they've been living off of for years (used to work with one of these Iranian ex-pats years ago and had he was the sleaziest 'businessman' I ever met!)"

Another IBJ reader who calls himself Indy Observer takes a more lighthearted approach to spreading baseless rumors:

"Any truth to the rumor that the Steakburger is being renamed the Big Lari Burger?"

On second thought, that last one could actually catch on. Give it a few decades, by which time Biglari Holdings may well be another stock with a six-figure price tag and tens of thousands of happy shareholders attending each annual meeting. At that time, "Big Lari Burger" just may become a no-brainer name for a burger that will be enjoyed by droves of happy shareholders.

Disclosure: No position.

February 07, 2010

Vintage Fund Manager Interviews

The following are links to hedge fund manager interviews posted on the website Hedgefundnews.com. The interviews were conducted between 1995 and 2004.

Patient Capital's Vito Maida Speaks with Financial Post

Canadian value investor Vito Maida, founder of Patient Capital Management and former Prem Watsa protege, discusses his strategy and market outlook in this interview with the Financial Post.


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Here is how Patient Capital describes the firm's investment philosophy:

PCM's investment philosophy is based on long-term absolute value. The objective of the investment philosophy is to focus on the preservation of capital while earning superior rates of return. PCM attempts to meet these objectives by purchasing only those securities that meet very strict criteria for value and quality. PCM's mandates allow for substantial cash balances to accumulate if securities cannot be found that meet its very high standards. Investments are only considered in companies that have a long history of operation and are in stable businesses that PCM can analyze and understand with a high degree of certainty.

PCM’s portfolios are constructed entirely on a bottom up basis. Each investment is analyzed through a very independent and rigorous analytical approach. Reliance on external research is minimal. Historical annual reports are analyzed to determine balance sheet strength, sustainability of cash flows and profitability. A very important component of the analytical process is an assessment of the company’s accounting policies. In depth interviews are often conducted with company management in order to assess future strategy and competitive position. In addition, a considerable amount of time is spent attempting to estimate “intrinsic value” through the use of discounted cash flow models and traditional valuation measures such as price/earnings ratios and price/book ratios.

New investments are only purchased if PCM’s criteria for high quality fundamental characteristics such as superior returns on capital, substantial free cash flow and low debt are present as well as a security price that is trading at a substantial discount to PCM’s estimated intrinsic value.

Although PCM’s investment horizon is five to ten years we will exit an investment for any one or more of the following reasons:

  • The security price reaches our targeted sale price;
  • Significant management changes occur;
  • A dramatic change in strategic direction is undertaken;
  • Increased debt levels are incurred;
  • Adverse changes in accounting policies are implemented.

We believe that our investment philosophy is very different from virtually every other Canadian value manager. Because our clients do not require us to be fully invested we do not have to compromise our standards for quality and price in order to meet a fully invested mandate. Other value mangers that must remain fully invested must by definition practice “relative value investing.” In addition, PCM portfolios are concentrated and will hold a maximum of twenty securities.

(Thanks to Corner of Berkshire and Fairfax for the interview link.)

February 06, 2010

Collection of Recent Investor Letters and Other Writings (new addition: Robert Hagstrom)

Here are some recent letters that you may find worthwhile:

February 05, 2010

Bill Ackman's Presentation on Kraft (KFT)

The blog My Investing Notebook has posted Bill Ackman's presentation on Kraft (KFT), dated February 3rd. The slides provide a good overview of the businesses of Kraft and Cadbury. Ackman also shares a valuation analysis of the combined company, not surprisingly suggesting that the stock should earn a strong return over the next couple of years.

Kraft brands

While we like the presentation, we would take some of the assertions with a grain of salt, particularly Ackman's claims regarding merger synergies, potential margin expansion, and a "good" price paid for Cadbury.

Cadbury brands

Somehow investors always seem to believe there is room for margin expansion. Needless to say, margins don't always expand.

The following classic Buffett quotation may ultimately prove prescient with regard to Kraft/Cadbury: "In some mergers there truly are synergies - though often times the acquirer pays too much for them - but at other times the cost and revenue benefits that are projected prove illusory. Of one thing, however, be certain: if a CEO is enthused about a particularly foolish acquisition, both his internal staff and his outside advisors will come up with whatever projections are needed to justify his stance. Only in fairy tales are emperors told that they are naked."

Mary Buffett on what sets Warren apart; Warren's dinner table stories; Warren's move away from Graham-style investing; what Warren looks for in an investment; Warren's mistakes and disappointments; and post-Warren Berkshire Hathaway (exclusive audio)

Mary Buffett, Warren Buffett Management SecretsOver the past few days, we have posted audio excerpts of our exclusive interview with Mary Buffett, author of Buffettology, The New Buffettology and the newly published Warren Buffett Management Secrets: Proven Tools for Personal and Business Success.

Today, we are bringing you more of Mary Buffett's insights into Warren Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway:

  • On Berkshire Hathaway post-Warren Buffett: listen now (mp3)
  • On what sets Warren Buffett apart: listen now (mp3)
  • On Warren Buffett's dinner table stories about business: listen now (mp3)
  • On what Warren Buffett looks at when picking an investment: listen now (mp3)
  • On Warren Buffett's move from a Graham-style investor to the kind of investor he is today: listen now (mp3)
  • On Burlington Northern acquisition: listen now (mp3)
  • On Warren Buffett's mistakes and disappointments: listen now (mp3)

The following audio excerpts have appeared in previous posts on our interview with Mary Buffett:

  • On Warren Buffett's approach to winning an argument: listen now (mp3)
  • On the qualities of a manager Warren Buffett would like: listen now (mp3)
  • On Warren Buffett's compensation philosophy: listen now (mp3)
  • On compensation of "his manager at the insurance company" [Ajit Jain?]: listen now (mp3)
  • On Warren Buffett's decentralized style of managing Berkshire Hathaway: listen now (mp3)
  • On how others CEOs can emulate Warren Buffett's success as a manager: listen now (mp3)

February 04, 2010

Bruce Berkowitz on Sale of Pfizer (PFE)

In the following interview, Bruce Berkowitz of The Fairholme Fund discusses his recent sale of Pfizer, which had been Fairholme's largest holding through most of 2009.

Berkowitz also opines on the issue of tax rates in the pharmaceutical industry and says that effective tax rates have been too low for too long. The implication is that this could change, potentially depressing earnings -- or at least slowing earnings growth -- across the industry.

Finally, Berkowitz suggests that Fairholme is moving away from a defensive posture toward a more offensive stance in terms of picking investments. Underlying the more aggressive posture is Berkowitz's view that the financial crisis is essentially over and that we are now in recovery mode.

Bruce Berkowitz on Bankruptcy Investing and Purchase of Debt in General Growth Properties (GGWPQ)

Bruce Berkowitz on Purchase of Citigroup (C) Common Stock

Bruce Berkowitz's Fairholme Fund (FAIRX) disclosed a new position in Citigroup in the annual report of The Fairholme Fund for the fiscal year ended November 30, 2009.

Bruce Berkowitz is one of more than 20 superinvestors regularly covered in Portfolio Manager's Review.

Bruce Berkowitz on CIT Group (CIT), Winthrop Realty Trust (FUR)

February 03, 2010

Mary Buffett on Warren Buffett's Compensation Philosophy and Leadership Style (exclusive audio)

Mary Buffett, Warren Buffett Management SecretsWe recently had the pleasure of interviewing Mary Buffett, author of Buffettology, The New Buffettology and the newly published Warren Buffett Management Secrets: Proven Tools for Personal and Business Success. We will be bringing you various portions of the wide-ranging exclusive interview over the next few days. Yesterday, we posted Mary Buffett's take on Warren's approach to winning an argument.

Today, we include the following insights by Mary Buffett:

  • On the qualities of a manager Warren Buffett would like: listen now (mp3)
  • On Warren Buffett's compensation philosophy: listen now (mp3)
  • On compensation of "his manager at the insurance company" [Ajit Jain?]: listen now (mp3)
  • On Warren Buffett's decentralized style of managing Berkshire Hathaway: listen now (mp3)
  • On how others CEOs can emulate Warren Buffett's success as a manager: listen now (mp3)

Mary Buffett on Warren Buffett, Ben Franklin and 'How To Win An Argument' (exclusive audio)

Mary Buffett, Warren Buffett Management SecretsWe recently had the pleasure of interviewing Mary Buffett, author of Buffettology, The New Buffettology and the newly published Warren Buffett Management Secrets: Proven Tools for Personal and Business Success. We will be bringing you various portions of the wide-ranging exclusive interview in the next few days.

We start this series of posts with Mary Buffett's description of Warren Buffett's approach to "winning an argument," which is also discussed in Chapter 17 of Warren Buffett Management Secrets: Proven Tools for Personal and Business Success.

Click here to listen to or download the MP3 audio.

February 02, 2010

Wilbur Ross on Stuyvesant Town in New York City

Wilbur Ross, chairman and CEO of WL Ross & Co., discusses his interest in New York's Stuyvesant Town:

January 25, 2010

Buffett on M&A Valuation: How to Evaluate an Acquisition

By Nadav Manham

I struggled a little to conceptualize in my own head the idea of one company issuing undervalued stock in order to acquire another company.  I understood that a company dilutes its existing shareholders when it issues undervalued stock, but I couldn't exactly quantify it.  In this CNBC interview transcript (starting at page 17) Warren Buffett explains one way to do it in the context of Kraft's acquisition of Cadbury, which he opposed:

1)  Start with the acquirer's "headline" valuation of the deal.  In this case, Kraft stated it was buying Cadbury for 13x EBITDA.

2)  Add to the purchase price whatever restructuring expenses the acquirer will have to pay in order to integrate the acquisition. 

3)  Add to the purchase price whatever deal expenses (legal and investment banking fees, etc.) the acquirer will have to pay to pursue and consummate the transaction.

Before even considering the issue of issuing stock, we can already see that Buffett thinks the "headline" purchase valuation is nonsense. 

4)  Now the stock issuance:  Take the number of shares to be issued by the acquirer as deal currency.

5)  Don't multiply that number by the per-share market value of the shares.  Instead, multiply it by your own estimate of the intrinsic value of the shares.  That product represents the stock portion of the deal.  In this case the result is to increase the purchase price of the acquisition, but when the stock of the acquiring company is overvalued, then the effect is to reduce the purchase price of an acquisition. 

6)  In this case, the headline acquisition multiple of 13x EBITDA became, by Buffett's estimation, a true multiple of 16-17x EBITDA. 

The author of this post is president of Elera Advisors LLC, an investment advisory company focused on value-oriented manager selection. Mr. Manham is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Investor's Consigliere. Disclosure: Long Berkshire Hathaway.

January 22, 2010

David Einhorn's Q4 2009 Letter to Investors in Greenlight Capital

The letter is now available for download.

January 20, 2010

Bill Ackman Discusses Kraft Stake (CNBC interview video)

Bill Ackman of Pershing Square went on the air right before Warren Buffett this morning. Quite interesting that Ackman appears to have misread Buffett's views on the Kraft deal for Cadbury. Watch Ackman's comments first and then scroll down to the Buffett interview in our next article. The juxtaposition is fascinating.

Part One of Bill Ackman Interview:

Part Two of Bill Ackman Interview:

Buffett “Feels Poorer” Based on Terms of Cadbury Deal (CNBC interview video)

By Ravi Nagarajan

CadburyIf Kraft CEO Irene Rosenfeld was hoping for a public vote of confidence from Warren Buffett, she is surely disappointed this morning.  Perhaps not surprisingly based on his unusual public criticism of Kraft on January 5, Mr. Buffett says that he “feels poorer” in light of Kraft’s richer bid for Cadbury and he disagrees with the decision to shed a highly profitable frozen pizza business to provide funding for the deal.

The statement today in a CNBC interview prior the special meeting of Berkshire Hathaway shareholders clearly refutes yesterday’s Wall Street Journal article which cited an unnamed source within Kraft who indicated that Mr. Buffett was “totally supportive” of the new terms.

Mr. Buffett also comments on a number of topics including the Obama Administration’s proposed bank tax, stating that he does not believe that banks are making “obscene profits” and companies that have already repaid TARP funds should not be forced to effectively pay for bailouts at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Other topics covered include the Berkshire Hathaway Class B stock split, Wells Fargo’s results, executive compensation, and Ben Bernanke’s prospects for a second term as Federal Reserve Chairman.  In addition, Mr. Buffett is not planning to increase Berkshire’s stake in Posco at this time and indicated that reports yesterday to the contrary may have been due to a misunderstanding with Posco’s CEO due to language translation.

CNBC Interview: Part One

CNBC Interview:  Part Two

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk. The author owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway.

Buffett on Berkshire’s Valuation: It’s at the Low End

By Ravi Nagarajan

Longtime shareholders of Berkshire Hathaway know that Warren Buffett hardly ever comments directly on his assessment of the company’s intrinsic value.  In an interview with Bloomberg at today’s special meeting of shareholders, Mr. Buffett made an exception to his usual silence on the matter when he was asked about issuing shares of Berkshire to pay for part of the Burlington Northern transaction.

The question of whether the bid for Burlington sends any signals regarding Mr. Buffett’s views on Berkshire’s intrinsic value has been discussed here shortly after the transaction announcement in November and again after the proxy statement was released in December.

Here are excerpts from the interview:

You have no problem issuing shares if your stock is fully valued.  I think our stock actually, measured against book value which many people do and is not a crazy way to measure it, it’s at the low end … so I hate issuing shares.  And if I’m paying $100 a share to Burlington shareholders, it’s costing our shareholders more than $100 which I will explain to them in the annual report, because we’re using shares I don’t want to use.

Now, this deal still makes sense in our view.  I mean, we talk about this extensively at the Board.  But we value Berkshire [shares] that we’re giving out at what we think Berkshire is worth.  Unfortunately the Burlington shareholder is going to value it at the market, so we have to give them $100 worth.  Weighing all of that, we like the deal.  But we don’t salivate over it.  I mean, it was close.  We wouldn’t have issued any more shares than we’re doing.

To view the interview, click on the image displayed below or on this link.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk. The author owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway.

January 19, 2010

Will Buffett Boost Posco Stake?

By Ravi Nagarajan

PoscoAccording to a Bloomberg article, Warren Buffett may be interested in increasing Berkshire Hathaway’s stake in Posco, a South Korean steelmaker. Posco cited Mr. Buffett as saying that he “should have bought more Posco shares when the stock price dropped during the economic crisis.”  According to Bloomberg, Mr. Buffett met with Posco CEO Chung Joon Yang in Omaha yesterday.  Mr. Buffett has not commented on the meeting.

Here is a brief except from the article regarding prospects for Posco this year:

World steel demand will rise 10 percent this year, Posco said last week when it announced a 77 percent jump in fourth- quarter profit and plans to push ahead with $30 billion of overseas expansion. Buffett, 79, may have a paper profit of more than $1.3 billion in his Posco holding, first disclosed in 2007.

“From the point of view of Buffett, there may be few steel stocks to buy in Asia,” said Chang In Whan, president of KTB Asset Management Co. in Seoul, which manages the equivalent of $8.9 billion in assets. “I’m sure Posco will acquire companies this year, which will help it secure growth in size as well as in efficiency.”

Berkshire held 3,947,554 shares of Posco on December 31, 2008 which represented a 5.2% stake in the company.  Berkshire did not report updates on positions in securities traded on foreign exchanges in quarterly 10-Q reports or in 13-F filings during 2009.

The price of Posco stock has increased from 380,000 Won on 12/31/2008 to 604,000 today while the U.S. Dollar has weakened from 1262 Won/USD on 12/31/2008 to 1124.61 Won/USD as of yesterday.  This would indicate that the value of Berkshire’s holdings in Posco has appreciated from $1.191 billion on 12/31/08 to approximately $2.12 billion today.

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk. The author owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway.

Comparing the Performance of Quantitative and Qualitative Hedge Funds

By Greenbackd

Recently I’ve been laying the groundwork for a quantitative approach to value investment. The rational is as follows: simple quantitative or statistical models outperform experts in a variety of disciplines, so why not investing in general, and why not value investing in specific? Well, it seems that they do. A new research paper argues that quantitative funds outperform their qualitative brethren. In A Comparison of Quantitative and Qualitative Hedge Funds (via CXO Advisory Group blog) Ludwig Chincarini has compared the performance characteristics of quantitative and qualitative hedge funds. Chincarini finds that “both quantitative and qualitative hedge funds have positive risk-adjusted returns,” but, ”overall, quantitative hedge funds as a group have higher [alpha] than qualitative hedge funds.”

Definition of quantitative and qualitative

Chincarini distinguished between quantitative and qualitative equity-focussed funds thus:

Our main method used to classify was to look for the term quantitative or a description of a similar nature to place a fund in the quantative category. We also looked for words like discretionary to classify qualitative funds and systematic to classify quantitative funds. Of the four main hedge fund categories, we only found two of them reliable enough to classify. Thus, in the Equity Hedge category, we classified Equity Market Neutral and Quantitative Directional as quantitative hedge funds and Fundamental Growth and Fundamental Value as qualitative categories.

We did not classify any of the Event Driven funds since these funds vary too substantially within the category and it was not clear from the descriptions how to separate quantitative and qualitative funds. We also did not classify any of the Relative Value funds, even though many of these funds use quantitative techniques, because the broader descriptions left us no clear cut way to divide them.

We classified a fund as quantitative if the following words appeared in the fund description: quantitative, mathematical, model, algorithm, econometric, statistic, or automate. Also, the fund description could not contain the word qualitative. We classified a fund as qualitative if it contained the word qualitative in its description or had none of the words mentioned for the quantitative category.

Performance

Using return data from 6,354 hedge funds from January 1970 through June 2009, Cincarini concludes, based on the raw performance data:

Generally, quantitative funds have a higher average return and a lower average standard deviation than qual funds. Amongst the quant funds, the highest average return comes from the Quantitative Directional strategy. The correlations of the fund categories with the S&P 500 are quite low at 0.17 and 0.38 for quant and qual respectively. The risk-adjusted return measures provide mixed evidence, but overall seems in favor of quant funds.

The qual funds perform significantly better than quant funds in up markets (25% and 15% respectively). However, the quant funds do significantly better in down markets (-2% versus -16%). This is mainly driven by the presence of Equity Market Neutral funds. In the 1990s, the average qual fund return was higher than the average quant fund return. They were roughly the same from 2000 – 2009. During the financial crisis (which we measure from January 2007 - March 2009), quant funds did better than qual funds (3.29% versus -4.77%).

Table 9 below shows performance summary statistics for the various funds:

Advantages and disadvantages of quantitative vs qualitative

Chincarini identifies several advantages quant funds hold over qualitative funds:

…the breadth of selections, the elimination of behavioral errors (which might be particularly important during the financial crisis of 2008 – 2009), and the potential lower administration costs (after hedge fund fees).

And several disadvantages:

The disadvantages for quantitative hedge funds include the reduced use of qualitative types of data, the reliance on historical data, the ability to quickly react to new economic paradigms. These three might have been especially crippling during the financial crisis of 2007 and 2009.

Finally, there is the potential of data mining, which will lead to strategies that aren’t as effective once implemented. In this paper, we will only focus on the return differences rather than attempting to detail which of the advantages or disadvantages in central in the return differences.

Hat tip Abnormal Returns.

 

January 18, 2010

Amit Chokshi on 'Another Bill Miller Snowjob'

Bill Miller, Legg Mason Value TrustValue investor Amit Chokshi of Kinnaras Capital Management levels criticism at Bill Miller in a recent blog post, arguing that Miller has been overpaid given his lackluster long-term track record. Writes Chokshi:

It appears that Legg Mason is rolling out its public relations machine and finding amicable partners in the media to help bolster its reputation along with that of its most recognized fund manager Bill Miller.  This Bloomberg article attempts to repair Miller's deservedly tattered reputation but the authors missed a few key points that potential Value Trust investors should consider.

The Bloomberg article points out that Miller's Value Trust fund rose 43% through December 23rd, beating 93% of its peers.  This performance has led to some self-congratulatory comments with Miller stating "Even when things were really bad last fall, it was pretty clear that there would be a cyclical bullish phase to the market" and “It is too early to pat ourselves on the back...we’re just one year off of a very bad period, so we can’t get complacent."

This mentality of feeling like "you're back" after one good year despite prior years of destroying your investors capital through incompetent stock selection compounded by high fees is sickening, particularly to younger investment managers like myself.  Rather than even consider complacency, Miller should feel shame in his long-term performance and disregard for any risk management.  Miller should also show some level of concern for his investors as those that placed capital in Value Trust as far back as 1997 are underwater.  Even worse, Miller and his team were highly compensated for this incompetence.

LEGG MASON VALUE TRUST ("LMVTX") HISTORICAL PERFORMANCE

Bill Miller performance 

Read the full article by Amit Chokshi.

January 16, 2010

Hayman's Kyle Bass On Fixing The System

January 12, 2010

Oak Value Fund’s Year End Letter

By Ravi Nagarajan

In a recently published letter to shareholders, the managers of Oak Value Fund explain their investment strategy, results for 2009, as well as the investment case for several current holdings.  In addition, the managers comment on Berkshire Hathaway’s proposed acquisition of Burlington Northern Santa Fe.  Oak Value has a solid long term track record despite a relatively high expense ratio demonstrating the benefits of a rigorous value-oriented approach.  Two brief excerpts from the letter appear below.

Investment Philosophy

In our work we are neither interested in the value nor the price of “everything.” We focus our efforts on understanding a collection of growing, advantaged businesses and having an informed opinion of what we believe they are worth. For this group of companies, we are very interested in price, but only in relation to our estimate of their value. Determining price requires a buyer and a seller. Assessing value requires knowledge, insight and judgment. Price is a reaction to the present. Value is a function of the future – growth, predictability and quality. As another great investor once said, “price is what you pay, value is what you get.”

Berkshire Hathaway and Burlington Northern

Berkshire Hathaway made headlines during the quarter with the announcement that it would acquire the remaining 77% of the Burlington Northern Santa Fe railroad company. This is a large acquisition, even for Berkshire, but we believe it is consistent with Mr. Buffett’s longstanding position that it is better to pay a fair price for a good business than a good price for a fair business. The long-term economics of the railroad industry should remain quite attractive, and Burlington’s geographic footprint in the West, where long-term growth prospects appear to be above average, could make it especially compelling. The Burlington network is positioned to benefit from increased volume of imports from China, increased intra-country transport of coal out of the Rockies, and increased movement of grain out of America’s heartland. After a quarter century of consolidation and reorganization, the railroad industry today operates much more efficiently and rationally. As one of the industry’s largest players, Burlington should benefit from structural and competitive advantages for years, if not decades.

Meanwhile, shares of Berkshire Hathaway remained little changed during the quarter as the investment community seemed preoccupied with the task of interpreting some “hidden message” in the timing and/or structure of the Burlington transaction. In our opinion, the most important message for observers to glean from this transaction is the sheer economic power of the Berkshire Hathaway business model to accomplish such a transaction at this point in time.

Click on this link to read Oak Value Fund’s Letter to Shareholders (pdf)

The author of this post is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

Disclosure: No position in Oak Value Fund. Long Berkshire Hathaway.

Kevin Byun's Q4 Denali Investors Letter

Kevin Byun, Denali InvestorsIn a new quarterly letter, up-and-coming special situation investor Kevin Byun describes his fund's success in 2009 and the fund's investment framework. Byun writes on the latter:

Based on the recent and continuing upheaval in the markets, it becomes worthwhile to revisit the fundamentals of our investment framework and to reevaluate the manner in which they hold us in good stead through current and future turbulent times. Although our partners already adhere to our investment mindset and believe in the validity of the tenets (which we consider sensible and logical), we know that most managed capital does not align with our framework.

Our basic structure (the allocation groupings and the incentive structure) is based on the Buffett partnerships from the 1950’s. Today, most people associate Buffett with a buy-and-hold-forever philosophy. However, most people do not know how he first created wealth for his investors and himself. What the popular view discounts is that Buffett began his career managing a hedge fund that was value-based and heavily involved in special situations. Basically falling into two categories, his “Generals” were undervalued stocks (still studied by many today) and his “Workouts” were special situations investments (unstudied by almost all).

Generals & Workouts: The Generals tend to produce returns that are more greatly affected by the overall market performance, as with rising or falling tides. The Workouts tend to provide market agnostic returns and tend to have more attractive risk-reward profiles in downturns. Much of Buffett’s consistency in outperformance even during years in which the markets declined is attributable to his special situation investments. Critically, the combination of the two is much more powerful than either one alone in producing absolute returns over an extended time frame.

The validity of this portfolio structure strikes me as powerful, simple, and elegant. In my view, those that focus only on one category at the exclusion of the other are at a fundamental disadvantage. The inherent balance in the combined structure is why Buffett himself said he expected, although could not guarantee, to outperform in bear markets and underperform in bull markets. By having a balanced tool kit, a portfolio remains flexible in allocating to the most promising opportunity set that presents itself.

Flexible mandate: We have a flexible mandate that allows us to look at any opportunities that may be attractive. Certain funds that are designed to fit into a ‘style box’ remain captive to a certain sector, geography or asset class. The problem for such fund managers is that capital can flood out as easily as it floods in (i.e. technology sector funds in 1999 versus 2000 or energy specific funds in 2008 versus 2009). Also, they become captive to a slice of the market when it is no longer attractive and are simultaneously prevented from areas that are attractive. Whether bargains are available or not is immaterial. The order of the day is to sell. As a generalist, our flexible mandate allows us to look at opportunities across the spectrum.

Concentration: Another advantage is our concentration of investments into our best five to ten investment ideas. Our opportunistic style of investing allows us to wait for investments with highly favorable risk-reward profiles and requisite margins of safety. Allocating more capital to really good ideas, which do not come around too often, simply makes sense. This builds a portfolio one idea at a time, such that performance over time correlates to the outcome of those ideas rather than to the market. On the flip side, the typical mutual fund holds about 80 positions, which practically guarantees below average performance and explains why 80% of them underperform the market simply due to frictional costs.

Cash: Another advantage is the ability to maintain net cash in the absence of other opportunities. Many funds must be fully invested according to the fund’s mandate. A fund manager must then perhaps buy at a time that may not be prudent or sell at a time that is even less prudent. Our ability to hold cash is a great advantage, especially as the current market dislocation unfolds. The use of leverage can be extremely dangerous. As has become apparent, investments that were mediocre at best were made to look superior in cooperative markets through the use of easy borrowing.

Alignment of Interests: We eat our own cooking. I have the lion’s share of my net worth in the fund and I will continue to keep my assets in the fund. The idea is if we do well, we all do well together. I can assure you that my focus is on judiciously growing partners’ capital. The fund manager, whose responsibility is to protect and shepherd capital, should not be exempt from the downside risk. One should cast a very skeptical eye at managers who consistently pull their fees out of the funds they
manage.

Read Kevin Byun's Q4 2009 letter to investors.

View Kevin Byun's recent presentation on special situation investing.

Huebscher's Interview with Fairholme's Bruce Berkowitz

Bruce Berkowitz, The Fairholme FundRobert Huebscher of Advisor Perspectives has published an engaging interview with Bruce Berkowitz, manager of the $11 billion Fairholme Fund and one of the most successful value investors of the past decade. Here is an interesting exchange from the interview:

My last question is an unusual one: Since you are obviously in a very competitive business, why do you do interviews with people like me?

We have no marketing. Our shareholders are wired for wealth creation. They are well-informed by using channels such as yours. Whatever I say here becomes public. It’s a great way to communicate with existing shareholders.

I can make points to you that I would be uncomfortable making to shareholders, because what you do is in the public domain. We don’t talk to that many people. You are an extremely efficient channel for our existing shareholders. It’s not cheap to reach 80,000 readers.

It’s also important for Fairholme to attract the right shareholders. For example, if someone called me up for the five-minute timing digest, we are not going to have a chat. The same would be true with the technical analysis channel.

If I can communicate with our shareholders and with other great potential shareholders, then it is very effective, because there is a natural ebb and flow. People leave us during difficult times. We want to keep in touch with our shareholders and keep a high-quality shareholder base.

This is why we charge a flat 1% fee with no loads and have never used a 12(b)1 fee and actually abolished the ability for us to use such a fee.

Last year, there were outstanding managers who had significant amounts of capital withdrawn, who were unable to execute their strategies. Fairholme did not have significant net outflows. It’s hard for me to remember if we had even a month of net outflows. That is a huge weapon and a big advantage – having the right shareholders who will stick with us while others are running for shelter. Without that we couldn’t execute.

I have to find ways to talk to smart people who can present our concepts to the kinds of people we would like to have as shareholders. That’s why we do it. I’m not giving anything away. I would never talk to you about what I am going to do today, what we plan for the future or what is not in our public reports.

The real service is for our shareholders, to let them know who we are, how we behave, how we maintain our level of integrity, how we perform during difficult times and whether we eat our own cooking. That is what’s important.Now that we’ve finished our tenth year, it’s good that people can look back and see what we had to say every six months and how we behaved during very difficult periods. They can stress test us.

At the end of the day, however, I know talk is cheap. You’ll know in three to five years whether I had anything interesting to say today.

Read the full interview with Bruce Berkowitz.

January 11, 2010

Interview with Seth Klarman, Harvard MBA 1982

Here is a video interview with HBS alumnus Seth Klarman "regarding his experience at HBS and his views on leadership and success and the priority of giving back to one's community."

(Thanks to Corner of Berkshire and Fairfax for the link.)

January 08, 2010

A Contrarian View on China

Contrarian investor James Chanos of Kynikos Associates gained fame by predicting corporate failures such as Enron and Tyco. Now, Mr. Chanos believes China could be headed for demise. As quoted in a recent New York Times article, Mr. Chanos says that China looks like "Dubai times 1,000 - or worse." Accordingly, the hyperstimulated economy, including unsustainable growth in the real estate market, is headed for a crash.

Mr. Chanos' views on China differ not only from accepted conventional wisdom, but also run against the opinion of such informed and successful investors as Jim Rogers. For more on this debate, please read the recent New York Times story.

Michael Auslin of the American Enterprise Institute also had insightful recent remarks on China, echoing the views expressed by Mr. Chanos. Please click here for further reading.

Ori Eyal's Yearend 2009 Letter to Investors

As always, up-and-coming value investor Ori Eyal's letter to investors is an enlightening read. In the letter, Eyal not only discusses his investment philosophy but also some specific investments worthy of closer consideration.

January 06, 2010

More on David Tepper, and the Best Performing Hedge Funds of 2009

David Tepper, Appaloosa ManagementVia Bloomberg. Excerpt:

Shares of banks such as Citigroup Inc. and Bank of America Corp. were collapsing [in early 2009] on rumors they would be nationalized. On Feb. 25, the U.S. Treasury put out a white paper and a term sheet on its Web site for the government’s Capital Assistance Program. They said the preferred stock the government was buying in the banks would be convertible to common shares at prices far above where they were trading -- 37 percent higher in the case of Citigroup and 21 percent for Bank of America, Bloomberg Markets reported in its February 2010 issue.

For Tepper, 52, that meant it was time to buy. “If the federal government was putting out this paper, they weren’t going to nationalize the banks,” he says.

Second, the conversion price of the preferred shares meant the bank stocks were seriously underpriced.

“It was crazy,” says Tepper, a Pittsburgh native. “In February and early March, people were in a panic.” 

(Thanks to Nadav Manham for the article link.)

Miguel Barbosa Interviews Tariq Ali of Street Capitalist

Miguel Barbosa of the multi-disciplinary Simoleon Sense blog recently interviewed fellow blogger and value investor Tariq Ali, founder of Street Capitalist. Ali sheds light on his investment approach and talks about some of his best and worst investments. Says Ali,

My worst investment was a small position in Mosaic, I definitely took a top down approach with that one, something I will never do again.

Ticketmaster was an investment I really liked. I entered into the position around $3.99 and sold out in the mid $11-range. It was a spinoff that I had watched since the summer when it began trading at $27. I had actually been excited about the business ever since the deal was announced, just because Ticketmaster is such a monopolistic business.

Fairfax financial was purchased at $210 in 2007 and now trades around around $400. Here was a business that has an amazing jockey, Prem Watsa, was bought at about 1/2 book value and had a great portfolio of credit default swaps to hedge against the financial crisis.

Read the full interview with Tariq Ali.

January 05, 2010

Max Olson on Sardar Biglari, 'The Restaurant Investor'

Max OlsonMax Olson of Max Capital Corporation and FutureBlind.com recently published an excellent article on the story of Steak n Shake and Sardar Biglari, the early-30s investor whom some are already calling the next Warren Buffett. We certainly agree that Biglari is someone to watch very closely as he sets out to transform Steak n Shake into a Berkshire Hathaway-like investment vehicle.

Read Max Olson's article.

Read Sardar Biglari's letter to Steak n Shake shareholders.

December 22, 2009

Burlington Northern (BNSF) / Buffett Interview Transcript

By Nadav Manham

Matthew Rose, CEO of Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corporation, which is about to be bought by Berkshire Hathaway, conducted an in-house interview with Warren Buffett about the pending acquisition.  BNSF filed the transcript of the interview as a 425.  This excerpt in particular planted a little seed in my head:

MKR:  Okay, next question.  In 10 years, how will you evaluate the acquisition of BNSF, whether or not it's been successful?

WB:  Well, I -- I'll measure it against my own standard, which is that I have made a bet on the country doing well.  And if I'm wrong on that, that's my fault and not anybody at BNSF's fault.  But i will look at how it does compared to other railroads.  I'll look at how railroads are doing versus trucking and all of that.  But in the end, I don't really worry about that very much.  I, I've seen what's been done here.  I think I know how the country is going to develop.  I think the west is going to do well.  I'd rather be in the west than in the east.  So I really don't have much of a worry about that.

That last little part caught my attention as I stared out my window towards the east side of Manhattan.  Why does he think the west will do better than the east?  It's a multi-decade grand thematic kind of question, not the business-specific kind Buffett usually addresses.  And I'm not sure how easy it is to predict these kinds of things.  I doubt many in 1979 were predicting that New York, then near-bankrupt, would soon re-emerge as the capital of the universe.  On the other hand, as early as the late 1960s political scientists were forecasting a population shift towards the Sun Belt, and that turned out to be true.  Maybe Buffett's prediction is a continuation of that prediction.  Maybe it's a prediction about the continued rise of China, or it has something to do with being long commodities.  I don't know.

I come from a people who like to wander.  Sometimes we've chosen to wander and sometimes others have chosen for us, if you know what I mean.  I was born in a different country (Australia) than my sister (South Africa), and we were both born in different countries than our parents (Israel and France), who were themselves born in different countries than their own parents (Lithuania, Translyvania, South Africa and South Africa again).  But we arrived in the Unites States when I was about three and except for thousands of trips across the Hudson River and back, we've more or less stayed put ever since.  Until recently it never occurred to me to live anywhere else.

But if you come from a family like mine, and you're interested in how to preserve and grow wealth over long periods of time, then you know that neither money nor people can count on staying put forever.

The author of this post is Nadav Manham, president of Elera Advisors LLC, an investment advisory company focused on value-oriented manager selection. Mr. Manham is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Investor's Consigliere.

Disclosure: The author of this article is long Berkshire Hathaway.

Wall Street Journal Profiles David Tepper, One of Biggest Hedge Fund Winners in 2009

By Nadav Manham

The WSJ profiles hedge fund manager David Tepper of Appaloosa, whose fund was up 120% in 2009.

Tepper's success this year is a testament not only to his gutsy bets, but to successful positioning.  After the annoying experience of having been unduly influenced by his investors not to short the Nasdaq in 2000, he resolved more or less to ignore his LPs.  By the time I got to Wall Street a few years later, Appaloosa was well-known as a fund that made bold bets, which would produce very great years but also some very stressful years.

If even I knew this, then Appaloosa's investor base knew it too, which reduced the fund's asset/liability mismatch in terms of risk tolerance.  A bold portfolio required bold capital providers, and over time that is what the fund has attracted,

Ultimately, this "everyone on the same page" state allowed Tepper to make his 2009 moves relatively unmolested (Alan Shealy of Boise does not count as a molester).

The author of this post is Nadav Manham, president of Elera Advisors LLC, an investment advisory company focused on value-oriented manager selection. Mr. Manham is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Investor's Consigliere.

December 13, 2009

Warren Buffett’s Patience Has Paid Off

By Ravi Nagarajan

Warren Buffett has often said that there are no called strikes in the field of investing.  Investors are presented with a series of “pitches” every business day by the market but there are no penalties for failing to swing other than the potential to miss out on interesting opportunities.

Of course, Warren Buffett gets many more “pitches” than ordinary investors.  Berkshire Hathaway’s huge cash balance in 2008 created many situations where Mr. Buffett  was offered unique investment opportunities but he passed on the vast majority of them.  The Wall Street Journal has published a detailed account of the many offers made to Mr. Buffett  in 2008 including some details that were previously not known.

One of the early “pitches” came from the CEO of Lehman Brothers on March 28, 2008.  According to the article, Mr. Buffett spent the evening of March 28 reviewing Lehman’s latest 10-K  report and jotted down the number of pages where he found troubling information.  By the time he finished the report, there were too many problems and he passed.  Click on this link for a copy of the 10-K cover provided by the  Wall Street Journal.

In the video below, the author of the Wall Street Journal article provides some additional background information and commentary:

The Wall Street Journal also made available a letter that Mr. Buffett sent to Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson on October 6, 2008 proposing a public-private investment fund.

When Mr. Buffett finally swung on the Goldman Sachs and General Electric pitches in October 2008, he was able to secure investments that have already proven to be very profitable for Berkshire Hathaway.  While he could have achieved even better results by waiting for the March 2009 lows, there was no realistic way to forecast the exact low or to time the market to produce an “optimal” result.

The author of this post, Ravi Nagarajan, is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.  

The author owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway.

December 10, 2009

Prem Watsa: "We have been through many bubbles in 35 years. We know they cannot last for long."

Prem Watsa, Fairfax FinancialPrem Watsa, the chief executive of Canada-based insurer Fairfax Financial (FFH), was a favorite target of short sellers only a few years ago. The shorts attacked Fairfax after the company's M&A strategy hit a major snag, but the shorts overplayed their hand, leveling ridiculous accusations at Fairfax and using (near-)criminal tactics to get their way (Fairfax's lawsuit against the short sellers is still pending). Watsa, who has had the strong loyalty of many value-oriented investors throughout the ordeal, has redeemed himself in the eyes of the marketplace as well. Fairfax investment strategy paid off handsomely during the recent financial collapse, with Fairfax making billions on credit default swaps and other bearish investments. Wasta turned bullish earlier this year, cementing his position as one of the all-time investing greats.

In a recent interview with Diane Francis of The Financial Post, Watsa comments on a wide range of topics, including what's next for stock market investors. Here are some highlights:

Q Are we at the bottom?

A It is difficult to say but the economy is still in a great deal of trouble. Do you think anybody is going to speculate in houses for the foreseeable future? People may do something else irrational, but not houses; a housing bubble is no longer in the cards. This goes to your point about international regulation: You don't have to worry about new rules and regulations, the free market is sorting itself out.

Q You began shorting, hedging with credit default swaps in 2003 before the bubble ended. Were you criticized for that?

A It was painful because we did not have a lot of income, the stock went down in 2006. Our $300-million worth of credit default swaps purchased in 2003 were worth only $75-million or so in 2006 before things turned. We were made fun of in Forbes magazine. We had to withstand some pain. But that is OK, we have a long-term philosophy.

Q Do you worry about concentration of economic power between Wall Street and Washington?

A There are other players coming up as we speak. They said IBM was too big, then came Microsoft, then came along Google, then IBM found a new path to success. The point is, big entities lose talent and they start their own firms. This is already happening at Goldman Sachs and other large institutions. Transparent and free markets and capitalism work in the long run.

Q The market's corrected but is the worst over?

A 80% of the economy [the private sector] is de-leveraging. 20% is government stimulus. Companies are operating at 65% of capacity or utilization rate. Unemployment is rising. If in six to 12 months' time, the stimulus and bailouts don't work, and we are at zero interest rates, what then? We had 20 years of good, meaning no recession to speak of, and only one year of bad. We are not worried about inflation, just the opposite. If wages start to go up, there will be inflation. But there is lack of demand. That's the problem.

Read the entire interview with Prem Watsa.

Jim Rogers Voices (Short-Term) Support for the Dollar

Famed macro investor Jim Rogers offers a contrarian view on the dollar, predicting a rally in the greenback due to short-covering. Mr. Rogers is still negative on the longer term prospects for the dollar, however, and remains bullish on gold and other real assets. He also offers a frank assessment of Moody's AAA rating for the U.S., which leads to an awkward interchange with the reporter.

Follow this link to watch the interview with Mr. Rogers.

 

 

December 03, 2009

Burlington Northern: Has Buffett 'Lost His Mind'?

Burlington Northern railroadRobert Huebscher of Advisor Perspectives recently interviewed well-known Columbia Business School professor and author of Value Investing, Bruce Greenwald. In the wide-ranging, two-part interview (part one, part two), Greenwald dropped a bombshell when asked about Berkshire Hathaway's (BRK) stock deal for Burlington Northern (BNI). Here's the exchange from the interview:

I know you own Berkshire Hathaway, so I have to ask you what you think about Buffett’s purchase of Burlington Northern.

Bruce Greenwald, Columbia Business SchoolIt’s a crazy deal. It’s an insane deal. We looked at Burlington Northern at $75 and I’ll give you the exact calculation we did. You don’t have a high earnings return. They are paying 18 times earnings, but it’s really much worse than that. They report maintenance cap-ex very carefully. They report depreciation and amortization, and they report only about 70% of the maintenance cap-ex. So they are under-depreciating, and their profit numbers are lower than the true profit numbers – and in a bad way, because the tax shield for the depreciation is undergone too. Their profitability is much lower than it looks.

Buffett’s paying 18-times [at $100/share] and at $75 he was paying 16-times. Our calculation is he was paying 21-times.

Secondly, there are two kinds of assets. There are the rights-of-way, which you can’t get rid of. So there’s no issue about having to earn a return on them because you have to keep it in the business, and because there’s nothing they can do with those rights-ofway. If you look at the asset value of the non-right-of-way equipment, and you write it up because it’s more expensive than it was originally, you get an asset value that’s very close to the earnings power value. We didn’t see a lot franchise value or hidden asset value.

The other thing is that if you try to calculate sustainable earnings, you have to cope with the fact that earnings are up enormously since 2003, when oil went up. There is a simple calculation you can do, which compares the cost-per-ton-mile for freight for a truck versus a railroad. If you build the increase in the price of diesel fuel into the post-2003 experience, when revenues suddenly start to grow, what you see is that the entire growth of the revenue is accounted for by the energy advantage that the railroads have and therefore how much business they can capture from the truckers, and how much pricing they can get because the competition is now more expensive.

There is nothing special about the railroads. It’s entirely an energy play.

If you look at what their margins should have gone up by, given the energy efficiency, the margins go up by only about half of that. So you don’t have a good aggressive management over these five years producing outsized returns.

We looked back at when they did the merger with Santa Fe, because then they did increase margins. But they got bored with it, and margins started to come down. The same thing happened recently. We don’t see a lot of hidden profitability in the culture of the company.

It looked to us like an oil play. He has a history of making bad oil play decisions. And that was at $75/share, we thought there were better oil plays. At $100/share we think he has lost his mind.

Greenwald's criticism of Buffett triggered a firestorm of disagreement, with some value investors suggesting that it was Greenwald who had lost his mind, not Buffett. One of the more lucid responses to Greenwald's criticism was published as a letter to the editor on the Advisor Perspectives website:

Warren Buffett, Berkshire HathawayI read with some amusement professor Greenwald’s discussion of Berkshire Hathaway’s purchase of Burlington Northern (BNI), I could not disagree with his analysis more.  One of my Native American friends says that one must be careful not to view things with “old eyes” and I fear that is what is happening to the professor’s view of Burlington Northern.

When I first began to look at railroads in the 1980’s, they were the very epitome of capital-intensive, labor-intensive companies consistently earning less than their cost of capital and that was during a period when they all  had millions of acres low cost land holdings with attached mineral rights.  At that time, the one true measure of a railroad’s operating success, its operating ratio, was rarely below 90%.  Union work rules were killing them.

Since that time, a reduction in government regulation, mergers and disposals of surplus lines, changing crew consist rules, technology and improved motive power efficiency have combined to make railroads productive and highly profitable companies.  They have created huge cash flows which have funded debt reduction and capital spending, making them much more profitable. Today, any railroad with a operating ratio in excess of 75% is considered to be poorly managed.  They have not accomplished this by diversifying their business; their resource land grants are long gone they are almost pure rails now.  They have not done it with increased leverage as they carry less debt and preferred than they did 10 years ago.  They have done it by sticking to their knitting, serving the customer, driving down costs, capital discipline, technology investments and just hardnosed business practice.

An example of increased efficiency: changes in engine design have reduced the number of motive units needed per train, reducing costs in terms of both fuel and crew.   Recently, GE introduced a new line of motive units with 16 cylinder higher horsepower diesel engines that, at sustained speeds, turn off four cylinders and maintain their speed on the remaining 12.  The fuel savings are in the area of 30% for comparable runs.

The other issue unique to BNI is that the nature of its traffic has allowed it to replace many of its previously fixed costs with variable costs, giving it greater financial flexibility and the ability to change in an instant to accommodate business conditions.   This in turn allows greater capital discipline and better returns.

While Buffett’s purchase of BNI does not seem to satisfy Berkshire’s traditional pattern of purchasing irreplaceable franchises, it does meet a more basic precept of being a toll-taker by offering a product an economy cannot do without.   Most of the traffic on today’s railroads cannot be moved by any other modality. If we are going to continue to import goods from lower cost developing world countries, then the BNI route structure from the west coast ports  to the mid west will be one of the few (two actually) to move that traffic.

Did he overpay? Maybe.  Does it revalue all the rails? No.  Will it work out for Buffett and his shareholders? Probably and better than most viewing it with “old eyes” can see at this point.

Dennis Gibb
President
Sweetwater Investments
Redmond, WA

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Exclusive Interview with Don Fitzgerald of European Value Investment Firm Tocqueville Finance

Don Fitzgerald, Tocqueville FinanceAn exclusive interview with European value investor Don Fitzgerald of Tocqueville Finance was published in a recent issue of Portfolio Manager's Review. The interview should be of interest to value-oriented investors anywhere. Excerpts:

MOI: Describe your investment process at Tocqueville Finance?

Don Fitzgerald: We focus on stock picking without consideration of benchmark, sector or country allocation and look for companies that are undervalued by the market relative to their fundamentals. Given our long term investment horizon naturally we keep our portfolio turnover relatively low and avoid overconcentration—for example, more than 5% in a single position. We avoid derivatives with the exception of very limited use of covered calls. In times of limited investment opportunities we can hold up to 25% in cash or equivalents.

MOI: What companies draw your attention? How do you generate stock ideas?

Fitzgerald: Investment ideas come from a number of sources, such as regular quantitative screenings, tracking of Tocqueville investments which have been portfolio holdings in the past, monitoring of the financial press, management meetings and conferences.

Opportunities caused by disappointments of short-term market expectations are good targets. Also spin-offs and de-mergers where existing investors often sell without doing their homework on the new company’s real value or situations where you have a forced seller pushing down the stock price are good hunting grounds for fundamental investors.

MOI: Do you have any favorite valuation methods? Are there any analytical approaches you avoid?

Fitzgerald: In the financial analysis we place strong emphasis on margins and returns stability, through-the-cycle profitability, free cash flow generation and balance sheet strength in order to generate our best estimate of intrinsic value. Valuation is judged in absolute terms, relative to the peer group, industry transaction multiples and relative to the company’s own valuation history. We often use sum-of-the-parts valuations for multi-business groups.

Regarding ratios I am wary of valuation ratios like P/Es and price to sales, which often understate the importance of creditor claims on company assets and cash flow. Likewise EV to EBITDA ratios forget that companies need to replace equipment one day and that profitable companies actually pay taxes. I think EV / NOPAT is a nice ratio that in theory corrects for a lot of these faults. However, don’t forget that ratios are just tools or marker points.

MOI: What European markets have you invested in the most and why? Do you invest in Eastern European markets? If so, are there any differences in the valuation approach you apply there compared to investments in more developed Western European stock markets?

Fitzgerald: We invest all across Western Europe and, given our bottom-up approach, there are no countries we avoid or focus on. We have limited experience investing in Eastern European markets and due to lower transparency, corporate governance concerns and issues with the protection of minority shareholders, we are not likely to change our stance in the short to medium term.

MOI: Have you favored or avoided any particular industry as a result of recent financial market dislocation and macro-economic turmoil?

Fitzgerald: For the last three years or so we have had limited exposure to financials, not necessarily because we foresaw all of the problems in the sector but merely because the profitability achieved in the sector from 2003 to 2006 did not appear sustainable and we had concerns about transparency.

MOI: What is the single biggest mistake that keeps investors from reaching their goals?

Fitzgerald: The biggest mistake investors probably make is following the herd and ignoring common sense. The herding instinct is part of the way our brains are wired and we must try to discipline our minds to avoid this default. The worst buying points in any asset occur due to bubbles caused by mass crowds pushing assets prices too far – like the Internet bubble at turn of millennium or house prices in many countries in recent years. Thankfully, value investing helps one to avoid bubbles by focusing on the difference between price and value. Other mistakes investors make is not having a proper strategy, philosophy or discipline to guide their investment decisions.

MOI: When you review your past investment successes, what key common traits do you observe?

Fitzgerald: Probably the best investments were made in companies where I had a very good understanding developed over time on the fundamentals of the company in terms of strategy, management and competitive positioning. This rigorous homework allows you to generate a fair view on the company’s intrinsic value so that you can pounce when Mr. Market offers an attractive entry price.

Read the full Manual of Ideas interview with Don Fitzgerald.

November 29, 2009

Rogers: 'You don’t get rich investing in things you know nothing about'

Jim Rogers, interviewThe Financial Times recently featured an interview with investor Jim Rogers. Here are some of the highlights:

What is the secret of your success?

As I was not smarter than most people, I was willing to work harder than most. I was prepared to examine conventional wisdom. If everyone thinks one way, it is likely to be wrong. If you can figure out that it is wrong, you are likely to make a lot of money.

What is your basic investment strategy?

Buy low and sell high. I try to find something that is very cheap, where a positive change is taking place. Then I do enough homework to make sure I am right. It has got to be cheap so that, if I am wrong, I don’t lose much money. Every time I make a mistake, it is usually because I did not do enough homework.

Do not underestimate the value of due diligence. In the 1960s, General Motors was the world’s most successful company. One day, a GM analyst went to the board of directors with the message: “The Japanese are coming.” They ignored him. Investors who did their homework sold their GM stock – and bought Toyota instead.

I’m not buying any stocks at the moment. If anything is undervalued now it is commodities and some currencies.

Where should people put their money in the recession?

Invest only in things you know something about. The mistake most people make is that they listen to hot tips, or act on something they read in magazines.

Most people know a lot about something, so they should just stick to what they know and buy an investment in that area. That is how you get rich.

You don’t get rich investing in things you know nothing about.

Read the full interview.

 

November 25, 2009

Zeke Ashton Talks Value Investing

Zeke Ashton, Centaur CapitalZeke Ashton of the top-performing Tilson Dividend Fund (TILDX) recently spoke with Ticker Magazine, outlining his fund's investment strategy, discussing why some investors get tripped by "value traps," and more. Here is a highlight:

Q:  What kind of value are you seeking and how do you judge that?

A: Value can come in many forms, but we are generally most comfortable with those ideas that offer one of two highly visible forms of value. The first form of value is cash flow. We focus on high quality, well-capitalized companies that are already achieving high cash flow levels, and we try to buy those cash flows at reasonably low multiples. Given our emphasis on dividends, it is important to us to buy securities of companies that produce reliable cash flow, because cash flow is what ultimately funds the dividends. The second form of value is asset value, whether it be in the value of hard assets, such as land, natural resources, or investments. Either way, we do our best to make sure that our valuation efforts on each security in the portfolio are underpinned by demonstrated cash flow generation ability and/or asset value. This provides the margin of safety against significant losses that every value investor tries to achieve.

Our belief is that it is more judicious to pay up a little bit more for a company that does have good growth potential versus a comparable business that is not growing as much but which might appear to be cheaper on a conventional price-to-earnings or price-to-book value basis.

When we looked at eBay‘s business, we felt the auction and fixed price merchandise listing businesses is still growing but at a very slow pace. But the PayPal business is growing at a faster pace and is quite profitable. So, we did not see a business that was going to fall off a cliff. Clearly, we saw a business that might have the possibility of future growth, but we certainly weren’t paying for any future growth.

We highlight eBay only because it’s a good example of a high-quality business that was cheap because it was suffering from near-term issues that made it unpopular and therefore available at a very reasonable price. We are still holding some of it in the portfolio though it’s now a very modest size position. Also, eBay doesn’t pay dividends because they prefer to buy back shares instead. So in order to generate some income on it, we sold call options on some of our position at prices that we believed represented a reasonable fair value for eBay stock. Had it taken longer for our eBay idea to work out, we would have continued to sell call options on the position and thus would have earned a nice income on the position over time.

Read the full interview with Zeke Ashton.

Tilson Dividend Fund 

Read the full interview with Zeke Ashton.

November 17, 2009

Berkshire Adds Exxon and Nestle; Reduces Conoco and Moody’s in Q3

By Ravi Nagarajan

Berkshire Hathaway has released a new 13-F filing today which reveals the composition of the company’s equity portfolio as of September 30, 2009.  In addition, the company released an amended 13-F filing for Q2 which shows a position in Exxon Mobil as of June 30, 2009.  This was previously not disclosed due to Berkshire’s request for confidential treatment for the position.

Highlights

During the third quarter, Berkshire made further purchases of Exxon Mobil and also initiated positions in Nestle, Republic Services, and The Travelers Companies.  Berkshire closed out positions in the Eaton Corporation and Wabco Holdings while reducing its stake in Conoco Phillips, Moody’s, NRG Energy, Sun Trust Bank, and WellPoint.

Please note that the 13F report only covers holdings that trade in the United States. The report includes shares of foreign issuers only if those shares are held as ADRs that trade on a United States stock exchange. Shares that trade on foreign exchanges are not reported on this form. Therefore positions such as POSCO, Swiss Re, Tesco plc, and BYD are not covered in this analysis.

Let’s take a closer look at Berkshire Hathaway’s portfolio changes during the third quarter as well as examine the likely performance of the portfolio during the first half of the fourth quarter.

New Positions

As noted above, Berkshire amended its 13-F filing for Q2 and revealed a stake in Exxon Mobil.  The company held 854,490 shares on June 30 and increased the stake to 1,276,290 shares worth $87.6 million as of September 30.  Based on the size of the purchase, it is possible that GEICO’s Lou Simpson initiated this position rather than Warren Buffett.

The Nestle position acquired during the third quarter was worth $144.7 million on September 30 and, assuming that the same number of shares are held as of today, the value of the investment is now $161.5 million.  This is an interesting purchase given Berkshire’s large existing investment in Kraft and the ongoing drama associated with Kraft’s hostile bid for Cadbury.

Berkshire also added a position in Republic Services worth $96.3 million on September 30.  Republic Services is a provider of services in the solid waste industry operating in 40 states.  In addition, a small position in The Travelers Companies was added to the portfolio.

Increased Positions in Wal-Mart and Wells Fargo

Berkshire nearly doubled the size of its position in Wal-Mart during the third quarter.  As of September 30, Berkshire owned 37,836,642 shares of Wal-Mart worth $1.86 billion.  The Wal-Mart position is valued at slightly over $2 billion today assuming the same number of shares are held.

Berkshire added 10.7 million shares to the already massive position in Wells Fargo.  As of September 30, the Wells Fargo position was worth $8.8 billion, and has been nearly unchanged so far this quarter.

Reduced Positions in Conoco Phillips and Moody’s

Berkshire reduced its position in Conoco Phillips by 7.1 million shares.  This is a continuation of the gradual liquidation of the position following a large impairment charge that was taken in the first quarter.  Please refer to the review of Q1 results for a more detailed discussion of the Conoco impairment.

The position in Moody’s continues to be slowly liquidated with 8.8 million shares sold during the third quarter.  So far, Berkshire has sold an additional 1.15 million shares in the fourth quarter.  Berkshire still holds over 38 million shares of Moody’s based on a recent Form 4 SEC filing.  It appears that Warren Buffett is trying to slowly liquidate this position after making some lukewarm statements about the economic moat of the credit rating firms during Berkshire’s 2009 annual meeting.  For coverage of Mr. Buffett’s comments on Moody’s at the annual meeting, please click on this link.

Strong Results in Q4

Berkshire’s portfolio appears to be posting strong results close to the mid-point of the fourth quarter.  We  know that Berkshire has sold shares of Moody’s during the quarter based on the Form 4 filing referred to above.  In addition, based on Warren Buffett’s recent interview with Charlie Rose, we know that Berkshire’s shares in Union Pacific and Norfolk Southern have already been sold.

Adjusting for the proceeds of the Moody’s sale and estimating the proceeds of the Union Pacific and Norfolk Southern sales, we can estimate that Berkshire’s equity portfolio is up 8.6% for the quarter so far assuming no other changes were made to the positions reported on September 30.  The increase in the value of the portfolio plus value of the liquidated shares of Moody’s, Union Pacific, and Norfolk Southern should account for approximately $4.8 billion.  Adjusting for deferred taxes owed on the gains, this would account for approximately a $2,000 increase in book value per A share since the figures reported on November 6 in Berkshire’s Q3 report.

For a more detailed look at Berkshire’s portfolio holdings, we have prepared an Excel workbook.  The first worksheet shows Berkshire’s portfolio changes for the third quarter.  The second worksheet attempts to estimate Berkshire’s portfolio value as of November 16. The Excel file is available under the resources listing shown below.

Resources:

Excel workbook with Q3 13-F Analysis and Q4 Estimates (Source: The Rational Walk)
PDF File with Q3 13-F Analysis and Q4 Estimates – Same Data as Excel File above
Berkshire Hathaway’s Q3 13-F Filing (Source: SEC)
Berkshire Hathaway’s Q2 13-F Amended Filing (Source: SEC)
Berkshire Hathaway’s Q2 13-F Original Filing (Source: SEC)
Berkshire Hathaway Form 4 Filing – 10/28-29 Moody’s Sale (Source: SEC)

The author of this post, Ravi Nagarajan, is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

Disclosure:  The author owns shares of Berkshire Hathaway.

November 16, 2009

George Soros on 'The Way Forward' (video)

November 15, 2009

George Soros on Reflexivity in Financial Markets (video)

Warren Buffett & Bill Gates at Columbia Business School (complete video)

Here is a CNBC video of the complete event with Bill Gates and Warren Buffett at Columbia University on November 12, 2009. Read the transcript.

Paul Tudor Jones Documentary From 1987 (video)

One of the most successful investors of the past several decades, Paul Tudor Jones, was the subject of a PBS documentary shot in the 1980s. The video provides a fascinating view into Jones in the early years of his investment firm. Jones's competitive drive and evident love for trading may have been some of the most important qualities behind his huge success.

Watch the 1987 PBS documentary on Paul Tudor Jones.

Read Paul Tudor Jones's latest letter to investors, in which he makes a bullish case for gold.

Charlie Rose Interviews Warren Buffett on The Economy, Philanthropy, Goldman Sachs, Burlington Northern, and much more (videos)

Warren Buffett, Charlie RoseCharlie Rose spoke with Berkshire Hathaway chairman Warren Buffett in New York last Friday. Buffett was in town with his friend Bill Gates for a meeting with Columbia Business School the previous day.

Watch an excerpt of the televised interview (don't miss another clip labeled "Web Exclusive").

Watch past Charlie Rose interviews with Warren Buffett.

Michael Corkery of The Wall Street Journal provides the following takeaways from Buffett's latest conversation with Rose:

“I am not for shooting them….but…I want to make it painful for them.”

That is Warren Buffet speaking about how he would like to punish Wall Street executives for their missteps that led to the financial crisis. Buffet told interviewer Charlie Rose that not just executives, but the banks’ directors should be subject to severe curbs on compensation, such as clawbacks and limits on payouts for up to five years after they leave a firm. [...]

On the economic stimulus:

“There should have been more infrastructure in there, and they hung a Christmas tree on it — as I said, it’s sort of like mixing a tablet of Viagra with candy. I mean, it would have been better to leave out the candy and have the full Viagra.”

On leverage and greed:

“….Being greedy can be fun for awhile, you know. Leverage can be fun when it works. Leverage is one of those things that works 99 times out of 100, and when it doesn’t, you know, it’s all over.”

On being “wired” to make money:

“A prosperous country should not just be prosperous for the people like me who are wired a particular way at birth — no credit to me — but I happen to know something about capital allocation and that wasn’t — you know, instead I could have been wired, you know, so I was — I don’t know; a great ukulele player. But there’s no money in that.

On redistributing wealth:

…The market system is not perfect in any kind of distribution of wealth, and taxation is a way you get to the excesses of what the market system produces and where you take care of the people that get the short straws. In a country as prosperous as we are, nobody should get a really short straw.

On breaking up the big banks:

“In 1998, though, it was a firm Long Term Capital Management that actually threatened the system and they had 200 employees in Sanford, Connecticut, and nobody had ever heard of them. So it isn’t just sheer size. It’s creation of huge leverage positions.…If you’ve got a $2 trillion bank, you know, you’ve got to do a lot of things, and I’ll let you do a lot of things, but — I don’t want them at the racetrack; let’s put it that way.”

November 14, 2009

Slides From Kevin Byun's Presentation to Columbia Business School Students, November 12, 2009

Up-and-coming value investor Kevin Byun of Denali Investors spoke to students at Columbia Business School last Thursday. Kevin discussed his brand of special situation investing, revealing a unique and highly successful investment approach.

View Kevin Byun's presentation on special situation investing.

November 13, 2009

Warren Buffett’s Advice For Enterprising Investors

By Ravi Nagarajan

Warren Buffett and Bill Gates appeared at Columbia Business School yesterday and answered questions from students for over an hour.  The full video is provided below and a transcript has been posted documenting the full session.  I found Mr. Buffett’s response to one question to be particularly important for individuals who are interested in being an active investor:

QUESTION: Hi, I’m Brian Seedabalker. I’m a second-year student. Mr. Buffett, it’s great to see you again. I was on the trip to Omaha last month. Thank you for hosting us. My question is, how would you recommend an individual investor who follows the Graham and Dodd philosophy to allocate their capital today?

BUFFETT: Well, it depends whether they are going to be an active investor. Graham distinguished between the defensive and the enterprising and that. So if you are going to spend a lot of time on investment, you know I just advise looking at as many things as possible and you will find some bargains. And when you find them, you have to act. It doesn’t — it hasn’t changed at all since I was here in 1950, 1951. And it won’t change the rest of my life. You start turning pages. When I got out of school, I turned every page in Moody’s 10,000-some pages twice, looking for companies. And you have to find them yourself. The world isn’t going to tell you about great deals. You have to find them yourself. And that takes a fair amount of time. So if you are not going to do that, if you are just going to be a passive investor, then I just advise an index fund more consistently over a long period of time.

The worst investment mistakes tend be those made by individuals who buy stocks on hot tips or cursory research such as reading a one page Value Line report or a newspaper article.  Intelligent investing takes a great deal of time, and if you think about it, why would this be a surprise?  Mr. Buffett’s advice to buy an index fund if you do not intend to invest the time in research is exactly correct.

The author of this post, Ravi Nagarajan, is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

Latest Howard Marks Memo: 'Touchstones' (November 2009)

Howard Marks, Oaktree CapitalOnce again, Oaktree Capital Management's Howard Marks has some lucid commentary on achieving investment success in an imperfect world:

In the two-plus years since the onset of the financial crisis, it’s been a regular theme of mine that we should look back, identify the causes and learn from them. I’ve tackled this assignment in a number of memos and a variety of ways. Now, despite the fact that you’ve heard much of this from me before, I’m going to try to pull it all together, using the quotations, adages and images that I feel best capture the essence of what we’ve been through. When I think back, these are the ones that stand out.

"Greed Is Good"

There’s no debating which line from the film Wall Street is the most memorable. It’s hard to forget the image of slicked-back takeover artist Gordon Gekko urging on his troops, invoking the positive power of self-interest. What he meant by “greed is good,” of course, was that greed – or self-interest, or the profit motive – is what drives people and companies operating in a freemarket setting to strive for more and better, and thus to work hard and optimally allocate resources. It’s the force that motivates Adam  Smith’s “invisible hand” and carries economies to increased output and higher standards of living.

Among the many pendulum-like phenomena we occasionally witness is the swing in people’s willingness to rely on the free market. First they trust the market to come up with solutions. Then the shortcomings of those solutions are laid bare and there’s a call for regulation. Then the folly of government involvement becomes evident and people want the free market back, and so forth. Because neither extreme is perfect, the oscillation between them goes on. Governments can’t run economies or companies. But it’s equally true that in a free market, the rules will occasionally be stretched and participants harmed.

In a free market, things will inevitably go past the optimal to the extreme. When they swing back, the retreat can be painful. Thus, if we’re going to rely on the market to settle things, we have to be willing to accept the consequences.

Read the complete memo by Howard Marks.

Yale Guest Lecture by Carl Icahn

Introduction: "Carl Icahn, a prominent activist investor in corporate America, talks about his career and how he became interested in finance and involved in shareholder activism. He discusses his thoughts about today's economy and American businesses and their inherent threats and opportunities. He believes that the biggest challenge facing corporate America is weak management and that today's CEOs, with exceptions, might not be the most capable of leading global companies. He sees opportunities for current, intelligent college students to succeed in the corporate world if they work hard and can identify valuable business pursuits."

Watch it on Academic Earth

November 12, 2009

Gates on Apple's Steve Jobs (video)

Buffett Talks Investment in Students (video)

Bill Gates and Warren Buffett at Columbia University Today

Here is a preview -- we will bring you more coverage later this evening.

Warren Buffett Talks to University of Akron Students (Notes)

Warren Buffett, University of Akron, students

Meeting NotesClick here for notes from the meeting of University of Akron students with Warren Buffett, chairman of Berkshire Hathaway.

Paula Schleis's article in the Akron Beacon Journal offers a glimpse into Buffett The Man:

"He's the nicest guy in the world," [business professor Todd] Finkle said. "Very down to earth. Very humble, and he doesn't put himself above anybody."

Kim Baitz, 26, said when she first learned Finkle was asking students to apply for a chance to go on the trip, she had just lost her job.

"I thought this was the perfect opportunity to meet the most intelligent man in the world in finances, and I thought it would be a good time to seek some guidance," said Baitz, who is pursuing her master's in business administration.

She took copious notes of advice from Buffett, but one thing that resounded with her was his belief in finding a career that brings out your passion.

"He goes to work happy every day, and so many of us go to work looking forward to the weekend," she said. Loving what you do is so much more important than making money, he advised.

Finkle said many comments made a deep impression on him as well, but one he'll never forget was in response to Finkle's own question about the most influential people in Buffett's life.

Among those Buffett named was a friend who was a Polish Jew, taken to a World War II concentration camp after an acquaintance reported the friend's hiding place to the Germans.

Buffett said ever since hearing that story, "when he would begin friendships, he would ask the question: Would this person hide me from the Nazis?"

"He then went on to say that one of the most important things [if not the most important] was unconditional love. If you can find two or three people who love you unconditionally, you are a lucky person."

Read the full article. Read the meeting notes.

November 11, 2009

Interview With Alice Schroeder: One Big Misconception About Buffett

The Motley Fool's Chris Hill recently interviewed Buffett biographer Alice Schroeder, author of The Snowball: Warren Buffett and the Business of Life. Here is a highlight:

Hill: You spent a lot of time with him. What most surprised you about him as you were writing this book?

Schroeder: The big surprise was to see how he turns the women around him into these maternal figures -- that a man who was 26 years older than me would be relating to me like a kid. It was really interesting. And this is true with all the women around him. I had to really resist it as an author because (a) I am not his mother, and (b) I was there to report and to be objective. But he didn't have a great childhood, and he didn't have the kind of mother that you would want, so he is sort of always looking for that. He is quite vulnerable. That was a big surprise.

Hill: Do you think that is the biggest misconception about him? His vulnerability?

Schroeder: I think in the personal side, yes. On the business side, I think the biggest misconception about him is that he is a "buy and hold forever investor." He has never said that, but people take little snippets and slices of things that he said, and they turn them into mantras or slogans. I think that people have made a mistake of pulling a few words or a sentence or two here and there and treating that as an all-weather investing technique. It doesn't really work because Warren himself is quite opportunistic, and he does trade and he does adapt. So anybody who thought that you could buy four or five big-cap growth stocks at a fair price and then you could just sit back and just go to sleep -- that has not worked out very well, and he would be the first to say so.

Read the full interview with Alice Schroeder.

November 10, 2009

Interview with Bruce Greenwald

Bruce Greenwald, ColumbiaRobert Huebscher of Advisor Perspectives recently spoke with Columbia Business School professor Bruce Greenwald, author of Value Investing and Globalization.

Read Huebscher's interview with Greenwald.

November 09, 2009

The Manual of Ideas on R. C. Willey and How to Build a Business Warren Buffett Would Buy (audio)

RC Willey, Bill Child, Warren BuffettWe are pleased to bring you an exclusive 98-minute audio program on the story of R. C. Willey, a Utah-based furniture retailer Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway purchased for $175 million in stock in 1995. The program introduces the listener to Jeff Benedict's excellent book, How to Build a Business Warren Buffett Would Buy, which we highly recommend. It is an easy, inspirational read that provides valuable insight into the business philosophy of entrepreneur Bill Child as well as into Warren Buffett's way of approaching family-owned businesses for purchase by Berkshire Hathaway. In the audio program, John Mihaljevic, CFA, managing editor of The Manual of Ideas, walks the listener through key events and anecdotes from the rich history of R. C. Willey.

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November 06, 2009

Vintage Louis Rukeyser Interview Snippets with Peter Lynch and Phil Carret

Warren Buffett's Interview with Business Wire CEO Cathy Tamraz, October 20, 2009


Transcript:

CATHY BARON TAMRAZ: Greetings from San Diego, where we have just completed the Fortune Most Powerful Women’s Summit. I am Cathy Baron Tamraz, CEO of Business Wire, and I am here with the only male that is allowed into this conference and that is Warren Buffett, Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, which is also the parent company of Business Wire. Warren has graciously agreed to answer some questions today, and kick off a conference that Business Wire and Market Platform Dynamics are holding in New York City, to launch a new Web site about the payment industry callexd PYMNTS.com. We are really excited about this new portal, which will be a primary source of news for the payments industry. It will havebreaking news and regulatory news in the payment industry, new technology and new products.

Because the payment industry is so vital to the economy, we thought it would be relevant to talk to Warren and hear his views on the state of the economy and what we can do to revitalize it. So thank you, Warren, for speaking with us today and agreeing to be interviewed by me.

WARREN BUFFETT: You are my favorite interviewer!

CBT: Thank you very much. That’s on tape, by the way. So, the first question I have for you is about the near-term future of our economy. The last 12 months feels like a really bad dream. This year has been the year that shook the world. It’s been a year since the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers and it almost sent the economy over a cliff. We had the Bear Stearns fallout, Merrill Lynch sold to Bank of America, the AIG crisis, Fannie and Freddie falling under government control. It’s been a really difficult year. So, what do you think is going to happen now in the fourth quarter of 2009 and also in 2010?

WB: I am not sure about exact quarters or anything of the sort. Who knows about next week or next month? We made enormous progress since a year ago. We had a real panic. And if you didn’t panic, you didn’t understand what was going on. What happened in September and October of 2008 will particularly be remembered for a long, long time. And while the governmental authorities malign things sometimes, they fortunately did some very right things, very important things. They did them properly, and they kept us from going over the cliff. The fallout from that financial panic hit the regular economy in the fourth quarter like a ton of bricks. We are coming back from that. The patient really went into the emergency room and it won’t come out of the hospital entirely for a while.

There are things that have to be cured in the system, but this system works. If you look at this country, we have gone through the Great Depression, we have gone through world wars, we have gone through civil war, and we have progressed like no country in the world. We have the right system. It doesn’t avoid all the problems, but it overcomes all the problems.

CBT: Do you see consumer-spending increasing in the near term?

WB: No, and not for a while. I think people had an experience a year ago that they are not going to get over quickly. But the factories are there, the human potential is there, the system is there. It works over time. Your kids will live better than you and I live, and our grandchildren will live better than they do. This country moves forward.

If you take the 20th century, we had a Great Depression, world wars, a nuclear bomb, a flu epidemic. We had all these things, and at the end of the 20th century, the average American was living seven times better than at the start of the century. It’s amazing. The Dow Jones Average had gone from 66 to 11,400. So the country works, you don’t have to worry about that.

CBT: This latest debacle has also been called a “crisis of confidence.” Five trillion dollars of American wealth has vanished. If confidence is what’s needed to stimulate the economy, how do we put trust back into the financial system? Does the government need to retain a stronger hand?

WB: Well, people became afraid a year ago, and confidence is not going to exist when fear exists. Fear is very contagious. It spreads very quickly, and that’s what happened in the start of the fourth quarter last year. The confidence doesn’t come back as fast as it’s lost, but it does come back. It’s come back a long way already, but it has a ways to go. As people see and really get re‑affirmed about the fact that this system works. We are still tossing out 14 trillion worth of product a year. It will return. It’s already returned with most people in most ways, but it’s not back 100%. It’ll get there.

CBT: Do you have any comment on the unemployment rate?

WB: Well, the unemployment rate will turn around late. It always lags. People who have gone through a period like this are slow to rehire until they really have to. On the other hand, the time will come when they have to. There will be more people working in housing a year or two from now. We have a brick company. We have companies in the carpet business. We have had to let people go in those businesses in the last year, year and a half. We will be adding people at some point, but we won’t do it until we see the demand come back. It’ll be a little slow because we don’t want to go through what we did before. Although, I will guarantee you that three years from now, our brick companies, our carpet company, and our insulation company will all be employing far more people than now.

CBT: That’s good to hear. The next question is about the government. Congress and the administration have been working on reforming financial regulation. Do you think they are on the right track? And will reforms and new rules to protect consumers help restore confidence?

WB: Well, the new rules won out, so the things they have done during the last year fell pretty short of confidence. Not everything is done perfectly, but nobody can do them perfectly. The important thing is that they got things done and people do believe in them, and they’ll believe in them more and more as it goes along. Government has a real role to play and it will not prevent bubbles forever. Human beings do crazy things from time to time, and the real question is how they recover from it. You and I have done things in our life, and the truth is that we came back from them. That’s the important thing.

You can’t rule out human emotions. When people get greedy as a pack, strange things happen. When they get fearful as a pack, strange things happen. That isn’t the way they exist most of the time, but they do give into that. So rules will help us avoid some of the problems. They’ll help us modify some of the problems, but they won’t eliminate all future problems.

CBT: I was watching a little TV this week and I was listening to William Cohen, who is the author of “The House of Cards.” He said that if you don’t change compensation and how Wall Street is incented, the same thing is going happen all over again. And yet, I recently heard that Wall Street is hiring, and they are also guaranteeing big bonuses and compensation packages, which is a little bit alarming if you ask me. What’s your view is on that?

WB: Well, Wall Street is about trying to make a lot of money. It’s the nature of the system. You get a huge capitalist system, and it raises lots of money and it makes lots of big deals and people – some people get paid very well for it. What you have to change in Wall Street is you have to make sure that in addition to carrots, there are sticks. And it can’t be a one‑way street where they are making ungodly amounts of money when things are good and then they move on to someplace else for a while when things are bad. You have to create a downside. I hope there are some practices put into place – and I’ll have a few thoughts on them myself – but Congress undoubtedly will have a few thoughts too. You have to put in something where there is downside to people who really mess up large institutions and we need some new help in that. Too many people have walked away from the troubles they have created for society, not just for their own institution, and they have walked away rich. They may not be as rich as they were before, but they have walked away better than they should have. There have to be incentives – not only to get rich, but to behave well.

CBT: President Obama said this week that the financial firms “owe a debt to the American people.” And I wasn’t exactly sure how, how they could pay that back to the American people.

WB: It’s interesting. Exactly a year ago when I was at this conference, I had a proposal for the so‑called “toxic assets.” I called three people in the financial world who were going to write Secretary Paulson about it. I wrote them on October 6th. I called three people to help out on this, and it would have required a lot of effort on their part and some commitment of money and time and energy. I asked all three of them if this went forward to do it absolutely pro‑bono. I asked them not to make one dime out of it. And they all said yes to me. So, they are good people. Many are motivated by greed. None of us are perfect, you know? I always say that, “Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future.” We have got some sinners back there, but they are not all bad. They went along with a bubble that they helped create – but the whole American public did. You still have to have the right rewards and penalties for behavior. That’s how you get decent behavior. So, I don’t look at Wall Street as “evil.” I look at Wall Street as given to huge excess sometimes. I don’t want to get rid of it. We need something to allocate capital and distribute securities and all of that throughout the system. We have got a big capitalist system and we have to have a big capital market – but there is plenty of room for improvement.

CBT: Looking into your crystal ball, what will the stock market look like a year from now?

WB: Well, I don’t know about a year from now. Five years from now, it’ll be higher, yeah. Ten years from now, it’ll be higher. One year from now, I don’t know.

CBT: Fair enough. Moving a little bit more closely to the payment and card system. On September 3rd, the The Wall Street Journal had an articled titled “Wal‑Mart to Pay via Check Cards.” Wal‑Mart isn’t going to issue paychecks anymore. So it’s all going to be through a card system, which is actually good for the payment industry and the card industry. And it seems to be a growing movement to use cards to dispense payments. I noticed that on some airlines, if you don’t have a card – a credit card of some kind – you can’t eat or drink anything if you are sitting in economy because they don’t take cash anymore. So that, that’s kind of interesting…

WB: Some restaurant just announced that in New York too, that they weren’t going to take cash.

CBT: That brings us to the next question: Do you think cash is ever going to disappear as a form of payment?

WB: It won’t disappear, but in the end – and that’s the genius of the American system – we do give the consumer what they want. If people want to use the convenience of cards, they will do it. Now there will be enough people that want to use cash, so consumers won’t turn their back on it entirely. They haven’t given up landline phones entirely for cell phones. The American consumer – in the end – is king. You can push them around for a week or a month maybe, but you either figure out what’s in your customers’ mind and decide you are going to serve them; or you are not going to be in business. They are right, and you are wrong. It’s what made this country, to some extent, what it is. Our market system where the customer – 300 million Americans – tell people what to make, where to serve them, and how to do business. Compare that to some totalitarian system, where somebody decides what people are going eat for lunch and we win.

CBT: Well, we are certainly not used to that…

WB: Oh yeah. Mm‑hmm.

CBT: The credit card industry is about 50 years old, and it’s pretty safe to say that it’s going to transform in the next 10 or 15 years. Sometimes I think we’ll have chips in our hands to scan and pay for things. All kinds of things will be transacted electronically.

WB: Cathy, I met Ralph Schneider who was the founder of the Diners Club back in the 1950s. He had just designed an IRA, and they are just using it around New York. They used to charge the merchants 10 percent and the card was very low priced then. American Express went into the business originally defensively. They had the Travelers Check and they were worried about what the credit card would do to it. In 1964, when American Express had what they called the great Salad Oil Scandal, we became this little outfit in Omaha and became the largest shareholders of the American Express Company. I went around to restaurants and service stations, and asked people about whether the Card was losing its appeal because of the scandal that was going around. They said the Card wasn’t losing it but that it was growing in appeal. So, I watched the credit card industry almost from the beginning in that respect. We got in early. I could see it was a powerful tool. First Data was in Omaha, and I have watched them all. Carte Blanche, the Hilton Card – some of those have disappeared over the years. Of course, Visa and MasterCard have been successful. There have been all kinds of developments, but the truth is, the American public likes to be able to go into their pocket and pull out a card.

CBT: Well, that was a really great lead into a question I had about American Express. Everyone knows here that Berkshire Hathaway has an investment in American Express, as you just said. So, you obviously know a lot about the payment industry and that company in particular. Can you tell us what attracted you to that company?

WB: Well, what originally attracted me back in 1964 was that Diners Club got the jump. They were way ahead of American Express. American Express came in with a very interesting market and concept. People already were carrying Diners Club, and American Express wanted to enter the field. They charged more than Diners Club did for their product. Diners Club had this card that had a bunch of flashy little symbols and everything on it. American Express brought out that centurion, and originally it was the green card with the guy that looked like Mr. Integrity. If you went into a restaurant, and you were buying dinner for somebody, and you had a choice of pulling out this Diners Club card that looked like you were giving a check from your mother or pulling out this centurion that made it look you were J.P. Morgan or something – you went with Mr. Integrity. They actually took over the field by establishing themselves not as the low‑priced competitor but, but as the class competitor. It was a great marketing arrangement. Then it swept the country. The card I carry in my pocket says, “Member Since 1964.”

CBT: Mine says “Member Since 1983.”

WB: Well, that was the year you were born, I was 40 years old or something when I did this.

CBT: Last question. We would like you to impart a little bit of advice and tell us what is the one lesson that we should take away from this economic Pearl Harbor?

WB: Well, I think that it goes back what I have told my manager to do: Just keep taking care of the customer. We have got a lot of customers in this country. Since 1886, Coca‑Cola has been selling a product that people like, and they just keep taking care of them. It’s what you have done at Business Wire. In the end, nobody that’s ever taken good care of the customer has ever lost; I mean, that, that is the name of the game.

CBT: That is great advice. I want to thank you for your time, Warren, it’s been a pleasure talking to you, and allowing me to interview you.

WB: It's been fun. Thanks, Cathy.

Ori Eyal's Letter to Investors -- Includes Investment Thesis on Hilan Tech, Israel's Leading Payment Processor

Ori Eyal, EVCMThe always lucid commentary and analysis by Emerging Value Capital Management founder Ori Eyal once again includes some eye-opening insights. Eyal's investment case for Israeli payroll processor Hilan Tech is also worthy of consideration.

November 05, 2009

Jim Chanos' Presentation at Virginia Value Investing Conference, October 22, 2009

November 04, 2009

Bruce Berkowitz Comments on Berkshire’s Acquisition of BNSF

By Ravi Nagarajan

We are always interested in listening to the views of Bruce Berkowitz of The Fairholme Funds.  In this interview recorded this evening for the PBS Nightly Business Report, Mr. Berkowitz comments on a number of his holdings, including Berkshire Hathaway.  He appears to be very positive on Berkshire’s acquisition of Burlington Northern Santa Fe.

November 02, 2009

Prem Watsa: 'Smartest Guy In The Room'

Prem Wasta, FairfaxDiane Francis of Canada's Financial Post recently spoke with Prem Watsa, chairman and CEO of Canadian insurer Fairfax Financial (FFH). Watsa is one of the savviest long-term investors in Canada (and beyond); those who know him well compare him to Warren Buffett. Over a period of more than two decades, Watsa has amassed an impressive investment and value creation track record at Fairfax. Here are highlights of his interview with the Financial Post:

Q: One commentator noted that Fairfax’s stock has declined by 3.4% this year, why?

A: “We are long-term investors and our company is a long-term investment. Short term fluctuations are market driven and not value driven. We began in 1985, 24 years ago, with US$30 million in assets and about US$7.5 million of shareholders’ capital. Today, coincidentally, we have US$30 billion in assets and US$7.5 billion in shareholders’ equity. That’s up 1,000 times. Our per share book value has grown from US$1.50 to US$372. Our stock price has gone from C$3.25 to between C$375 and $390 a share. These are all long-term results.”

“We are thankful for our track record. More recently our book value in 2006 was US$150 a share and now, as of end of September, it is US$372 a share, more than double and the stock price has naturally followed suit. Over time the book value and the stock price tend to go together.”

Q: You are in India today, and were born there, how is it doing?

A: “The Indian economy has come back up in spades. This country has recently built the interstate road system which took forever because of their bureaucracies. Now, however,economic development is spreading out of the biggest cities like it did in the United States one hundred years ago. India is looking at growth of 8% - potentially even 10% - next year. Our Indian company, ICICI Lombard, was started from nothing less than ten years agowe have 26% ownership of it, and today it is underwriting almost US$1 billion. It is the largest property and casualty insurer in India and the potential is huge. Only 1% of all homes are insured.”

Q: Bubbles are developing in a lot of asset classes, so what do you continue to bet long-term on?

A: “We like the stocks that we have such as Johnson & Johnson, Wells Fargo. Our thinking is that the stronger get stronger and good management will prevail. Look at the commercial/industrial mortgage problem. There are 100 regional banks in this and say they all go bankrupt. That means there’s opportunities for strong banks like Wells Fargo who can buy regional or smaller banks for cheap.”

Read the full interview with Prem Watsa.

November 01, 2009

The CEU Lectures: George Soros on The Economy, Reflexivity and Open Society

George Soros

Click here to watch all the Soros lectures.

Introduction

In his recent lecture series at Central European University in Budapest, Hungary, George Soros unveiled his latest thinking on economics and politics in five separate lectures. They are the culmination of a lifetime of practical and philosophical reflection. In his first two lectures he discussed his general theory of reflexivity and its application to financial markets, providing insights into the recent financial crisis. The third and fourth lectures examined the concept of open society, which has guided Soros’s global philanthropy, as well as the potential for conflict between capitalism and open society. The closing lecture focused on the way ahead, closely examining the increasingly important economic and political role that China would play in the future.

Lecture 1: General Theory of Reflexivity -- Link to video here.

George Soros presents the fundamentals of his guiding philosophy, laying the foundation for his four subsequent lectures. This session discusses historical understandings of objective reality, scientific inquiry, and the limits of human perception. It discusses the gap between perceptions and reality, illustrating how actions based on these flawed perceptions then reshape reality in a reflexive system.

Lecture 2: Financial Markets -- Link to video here.

This lecture applies the general theory of reflexivity to financial markets, challenging the prevailing paradigm of the efficient market hypothesis. George Soros discusses bubbles and the recent financial crisis in detail, testing his theory against major financial events.

Lecture 3: Open Society -- Link to video here.

In this session, George Soros discusses the concept of open society, which guides his philanthropy and is central to his political and social thinking. Over the past quarter century, Soros has devoted over seven billion dollars to promoting the underpinnings of this concept—from equal access to justice to freedom of expression—around the world, from South Africa to Poland to the United States. Here, he describes the historical and philosophical roots of open society. George Soros builds on Karl Popper’s thinking while stressing the central importance of fallibility, relating this to reflexivity, and applying these concepts to political and social reality. The lecture concludes by discussing the balance between individual freedom and regulation to protect the common good.

Lecture 4: Capitalism Versus Open Society -- Link to video here.

In this lecture, George Soros explores the conflict between capitalism and open society, market values and social values. Focusing on the principal-agent problem, he will use contemporary economic and political examples to challenge market fundamentalism while presenting ideas for protecting the public good more effectively.

Lecture 5: The Way Ahead -- Link to video here.

Turning his attention to the future, George Soros focuses on the increasingly important role that China is likely to play on the world stage. He will outline key global trends and discuss their major economic and political implications for the years ahead.

Charlie Munger on Booms and Busts (video)

By Ravi Nagarajan

Charlie Munger was interviewed by the BBC and comments on a variety of topics.  As always, Mr. Munger pulls few punches when it comes to providing his candid assessment on investing, economics, politics, and all varieties of “human follies”.

One sure to be classic Munger quote from the interview was in response to a question regarding how concerned shareholders should be when they experience temporary impairments in the market value of their holdings:

You can argue that if you’re not willing to react with equanimity to a market price decline of fifty percent two or three times a century, you’re not fit to be a common shareholder and you deserve the mediocre result that you’re going to get.

And on politics:

Both parties have wings that are full of idiots.  That is the nature of the game.  And the reason it has worked as well as it has is that the people in the middle have sort of over time tuned out the idiots on both sides.  But every once in a while, the idiots get in control.  And, of course, that has terrible consequences.  That’s the nature of the system.

To view the video, please click on the image below.

Munger

October 28, 2009

Susie Buffett Talks About Warren Buffett (video)

Susie BuffettWarren Buffett's daughter Susie Buffett provides some interesting insights into Warren's personal life.

Susie Buffett is one of Warren Buffett's three children with his first wife, Susie Thompson Buffett. Like her two brothers, she runs a charitable foundation funded by her father. The Sherwood Foundation is based in the same building in Omaha in which her father has worked for almost fifty years.

Watch Susie Buffett talk about Warren Buffett.

Washington Post CEO Don Graham Talks About Warren Buffett

Don Graham, Washington PostDon Graham, son of the late Katherine Graham and current chairman and CEO of The Washington Post, discusses his and his mother's experiences with Warren Buffett in a new BBC interview.

Watch Don Graham talk about Warren Buffett.

David 'Sandy' Gottesman Talks About Warren Buffett (video)

David Sandy GottesmanFirst Manhattan's David 'Sandy' Gottesman, a long-time friend and business associate of Berkshire chairman Warren Buffett, discusses some of the things that make Buffett a truly unique investor.

Watch Sandy Gottesman talk about Warren Buffett.

Bill Gates Talks About Warren Buffett (video)

Warren Buffett, Bill GatesMicrosoft founder Bill Gates discusses his friendship with Warren Buffett in a new BBC interview.

Three years ago, Buffett announced he was giving the bulk of his fortune - currently estimated at $40 billion - to charity, with most of it going to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

Watch Bill Gates talk about Warren Buffett.

BBC's Evan Davis Talks To Warren Buffett (video)

Warren Buffett, Berkshire HathawayWarren Buffett talked to Evan Davis at the headquarters of his company, Berkshire Hathaway, in Buffett's native Omaha.

Buffett shares his ideas about the current financial crisis, his investment philosophy, and his one indulgence - his private jet.

Watch the interview.

October 25, 2009

Words of Wisdom From Buffett, Rodriguez, Grantham, Gross, Whitman, Rogers

Elizabeth Ody of Kiplinger.com shares the following advice and insights in a recent article:

Warren BuffettWarren Buffett, chairman of Berkshire Hathaway: I have no idea what the stock market's going to do tomorrow, or next week, or next month or next year. But over a 10-year period you will do considerably better owning a group of equities than you will owning Treasuries. In fighting the economic war, we've taken action that sows the seeds of substantial inflation down the road. Not in the next six months or year, but 10 years from now the dollar will buy a lot less than it buys today.

Robert Rodriguez, FPARobert L. Rodriguez, chief executive of First Pacific Advisors: Don't run with the herd. Being surrounded by people who are doing the same thing as you offers a false sense of protection. Today, being a loner means owning short-maturity, high-quality debt on the bond side. And if the U.S. government continues to blow up the nation's balance sheet through massive deficits, you should probably move at least 20 to 40 percent of your assets out of the United States.

Jeremy GranthamJeremy Grantham, chief investment strategist at Grantham, Mayo, Van Otterloo: The recent rally has been very speculative, favoring risky assets over the past few months. I'm sorry if you missed investing at the market's March lows, but don't compound the damage to your portfolio by chasing gains in risky assets. We're at the beginning of a seven-year period of lean returns. You should only be buying the highest-quality blue-chip companies, where valuations are most attractive.

Bill Gross, PIMCOBill Gross, co-chief investment officer at Pacific Investment Management: The biggest danger right now is that you'll earn zero percent on mattress money, or virtually zero percent in a money-market account or at the bank. Yes, that money is safe, but the economy and inflation may come roaring past you at higher levels. You also have to consider diversifying outside of the United States. The dollar is a weak currency, and as it devalues against other currencies, our standard of living will suffer. Higher returns relative to risk lie in Asia and Brazil.

Marty Whitman, Third AvenueMartin J. Whitman, co-chief investment officer at Third Avenue Management: Do what we do -- find extremely well-financed companies that do not rely on continuous access to the bond or stock markets for refinancing, that are run by competent management teams and that have favorable prospects for growth. Buy these companies' stocks when they are available at a meaningful discount. All other systems of investing are concerned with predicting stocks' near-term price movements.

Jim RogersJim Rogers, chairman of Rogers Holdings: Diversification is garbage -- it's something brokers invented to avoid getting sued. You only need four or five good ideas in your life to get really rich if you avoid mistakes. And the one way to avoid mistakes is to stick with what you know. Then, when you see a major development in your area of expertise, you'll know better than Wall Street when to buy or sell.

Interview with Daniel Och of Och-Ziff Capital Management

Daniel Och, Och-ZiffPensions & Investments has an interview with Daniel Och, founder and head of Och-Ziff Capital Management (OZM). Here is an excerpt:

Where do you see interesting investment opportunities?

Several of our businesses are secularly more attractive than they were three years ago. For example, convertible arbitrage, where many participants were using large amounts of leverage, we believe is a much more attractive business than it had been. Long/short equity also continues to be appealing to us.

We're constantly thinking about where we can expand into new opportunities. Structured credit is a good example of that, consisting of residential mortgage-backed securities, commercial mortgage-backed securities and structured products with corporate assets as the underlying collateral. These are areas we were not involved in three years ago given the significant leverage and embedded leverage and the fact that virtually all of the risk management was based on what the rating was.

We built very deep and strong capabilities in structured credit. Now that the sector has dislocated, (we are able to) take advantage of opportunities. Number one, we think that banks and financial institutions will begin to be more aggressive in selling assets off their balance sheets. Number two, on the commercial side, we think that deteriorating fundamentals will impact the structured side, creating literally hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of distressed product.

Our expectation is that the opportunities are beginning now and will continue into 2010, although having said that ... it may take longer to emerge. I think another of the mantras of our firm applies here: Have capabilities everywhere and obligations nowhere. 

Read full interview with Daniel Och.

(Thanks to Simoleon Sense for the link.)

October 23, 2009

Bill Miller's Optimistic Commentary -- Is It Too Optimistic?

bill miller legg masonIn his latest commentary, Legg Mason's Bill Miller challenges the view that the U.S. economy will revert to a "new normal" once the current crisis has ebbed. Writes Miller,

In my colleague Michael Mauboussin’s terrific new
book, Think Twice, the opening chapter tells the story of Big Brown, the super looking colt who’d won such impressive victories in the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness, the first two legs of racing’s Triple Crown. This is a story with a lesson that directly relates to investing, and to understanding the kind of recovery that appears to be getting underway in the U.S. economy.

After winning all 5 of his starts by a combined total of almost 40 lengths, Big Brown was a 3-10 favorite to win the Belmont Stakes and become the first horse in 30 years to win the Triple Crown. Those odds indicated the “wisdom of crowds” putting a 77% probability on Big Brown’s winning the race and making horse racing history. Part of that was right: he did make horse racing history —
by being the only horse to win the first two legs of the Triple Crown and finish last in the Belmont.

Michael Mauboussin, Legg MasonThat so many were so sure of Big Brown’s success was due to a common analytical error that manifests itself in investing as well as horse racing. That error is the neglect of base rates. Psychologists call it the “inside” view, in contrast to the “outside” view. As Michael explains in his book:

The inside view considers a problem by focusing on the specific task and by using information that is close at hand. The outside view…asks if there are similar situations that can provide a statistical basis for making a decision. The outside view wants to know if others have faced comparable problems, and if so, what happened. It’s an unnatural way to think because it forces people to set aside the information they have gathered.

In the case of Big Brown, taking the outside view would be to see how many horses in the past had won the first two legs of the Triple Crown and then went on to win the third. The inside view focused on Big Brown, his history, the competition he faced, the tracks he ran on and their condition, his time between races, and so on.

The outside view revealed that 29 horses had won the first two races of the Triple Crown in the 130 years it had been run, with 11 of those horses going on to win the third race. Parsing the data a little more finely showed a remarkable divergence in winning percentages. Before 1950, 8 of the 9 horses that had a shot at the Triple Crown won it. After 1950, only 3 of 20 were successful. Moreover, when Big Brown’s speed ratings were compared to the most recent 6 Triple Crown contenders (and not just to his competition in the race), he was the slowest by a wide margin. If those who were betting on the Belmont had used the outside view instead of the inside view, no one would have believed what everyone did believe, that Big Brown had a nearly 80% chance to win the Belmont.

Investors are faced with these sorts of problems constantly: if I put my money in bonds now, what rate of return should I expect over the next 5 or 10 years? What is the outlook for stocks over the next 12 months? What are the chances of a significant rise in inflation over the next few years? What kind of economic recovery will we have? Should I fire my active money manager and replace him with a passive index product? What are the chances we have a “double-dip” recession? And on and on.

Faced with these sorts of questions, most people default to the inside view, and then augment its flaws with the usual assortment of behavioral biases long known to psychologists: they anchor on the most recent experience, they assume instances are representative of deeper patterns, they give more weight to vivid examples or dramatic outcomes, they place twice the weight on a dollar lost as on a dollar gained, etc.

The financial crisis that is now abating has created a near perfect environment for the admixture of all of the above, and that is perhaps why what Nobel winning economist Ken Arrow called the “clouds of vagueness” seem particularly thick and forbidding just now. Taking the outside view on some of the issues facing investors won’t make an inherently unknowable future predictable, but it can improve the odds of getting things right, or getting fewer things wrong.

El-Erian, PIMCOThe difference between the inside and the outside view is well on display in the different and in some cases strongly held views about what kind of recovery is now unfolding in the U.S. PIMCO’s Mohamed El-Erian is the most prominent advocate of the “new normal”, a term he coined to describe a recovery with real growth of 1-2%, persistently high unemployment, and much greater government involvement in the economy. He has recently warned of a big letdown from the “sugar high” we are now experiencing in the market and the economy as the effects of the abatement of the credit crisis and massive government stimuli, both fiscal and monetary, begin to wear off.

He may be the most prominent, but he is not alone. In fact, it looks like he is the leader of a not so silent majority. The current consensus growth rate for the U.S. economy in 2010 is 2.4%. This is way below “normal” for the first year of a recovery, yet even it is well above what most thought only 6 months ago. In April the IMF projected negative growth in world output of 1.3% this year, and only 1.9% growth in 2010. That included a projection of zero growth in 2010 for developed
countries.

Projections such as these follow the classic inside view pattern: they look at current conditions, current trends, anchor on the most recent data, and adjust from there. Since the economy bottomed in March, almost all time series forecasts of economic improvement have been adjusted higher as the year wore on. They are still well below “normal.”

Continue reading Bill Miller's commentary.

Read Bloomberg's coverage of the debate on the "new normal".

Jonathan Heller's Notes From Value Investing Congress

Value Investing CongressJonathan Heller of the highly recommended Cheap Stocks blog has posted notes from the Value Investing Congress in New York. You will not want to miss these notes, as they include some of the most important takeaways from the Congress in an easy-to-read format.

Jonathan Heller's notes from Day 1.

Jonathan Heller's notes from Day 2.

October 22, 2009

Pabrai: "We will never see another Warren Buffett"

mohnish pabraiHere is an excerpt from Vivek Kaul's recent interview with value investor Mohnish Pabrai:

How much of Warren Buffett's success can be attributed to his investment prowess and how much to the fact that he is Warren Bufett?

Well the thing is you could have invested even after Buffett had invested and you could have made six times the money out of it.

In fact there are a couple of professors in Ohio, who studied any stock that Warren Buffett bought, if you bought on the last day of the month, when it was public that he owned that stock, and you sold it after it was public that he had started selling it, you would have generated north of 20% annual rate of return.

I would say that we will never see another Warren Buffett. Just like we will never see any Albert Einstein or another Mahatma Gandhi. Buffett is a very unique individual. His skillsets outside of investment are phenomenal but they get dwarfed by his investing skills. The main thing that makes Warren Buffett Warren Buffett is that he is a learning machine who has worked really hard for, let's us say seventy years, and is continuously learning every day.

So the thing is if you want to be like Buffett, there is no short cut. First of all, you have to be deeply interested in investing and you have to be very willing spending tens of hours, hundreds of hours, reading the minutiae. There is a very famous value investor called Seth Klarman. He is into horse racing. And his famous horse is called Read the Footnotes.

Read Vivek Kaul's interview with Mohnish Pabrai.

(Thanks to Value Investing World for this link.)

October 21, 2009

The Wisdom of Seth Klarman

The Distressed Debt Investing blog has four posts on the wisdom of Seth Klarman, founder of The Baupost Group. We highly recommend the posts, as they quote from Klarman's hard-to-obtain annual letters and provide an excellent view into his investment philosophy.

October 20, 2009

Joel Greenblatt Interview on CNBC

By Ravi Nagarajan

Joel Greenblatt, founder of Gotham Capital, shared his thoughts on a number of investing topics in a rare interview on CNBC this morning.  The focus of much of the discussion was related to Mr. Greenblatt’s “magic formula” strategy that he outlined in The Little Book That Beats the Market.

This strategy is also discussed in more detail on the Magic Formula Investing website.  Additionally, The Manual of Ideas 10×45 Bargain Hunter newsletter includes screens using the “magic formula” based on trailing earnings, current earnings, and next year’s projected earnings.  Click on this link to read a review of Mr. Greenblatt’s earlier book: You Can Be a Stock Market Genius.

David Einhorn's Speech at Value Investing Congress

Download it here.

October 14, 2009

Exclusive Interview with Tim McElvaine

We recently interviewed one of Canada's most well-respected value investors, Tim McElvaine of McElvaine Investment Management. As always, he is insightful and to the point.

Read exclusive interview with Tim McElvaine, published in a special edition of Downside Protection Report.

October 13, 2009

Why Are Two of David Einhorn's Top Five Holdings European Companies?

David Einhorn New York MagazineIn a Q2 letter to investors, dated July 13th, respected value investor David Einhorn of Greenlight Capital states that at the end of the second quarter, "the five largest disclosed long positions in the [Greenlight] Partnerships are Arkema, Criteria Caixa, Ford Motor Company debt, gold, and Pfizer."

Einhorn has owned French chemicals company Arkema (Paris: AKE) and Spanish investment group Criteria Caixa (Madrid: CRI) for some time. Greenlight has also owned other Europe-domiciled companies in the past, including French auto maker Renault and Austrian Post, which was named a top monthly stock pick in the recent issue of European Value Report.

While it is impossible to divine Einhorn's strong interest in European equities, we note the following attractive investment attributes offered by many European markets:

  • Western Europe has a history of transparency and rule of law. Disclosure and corporate governance standards are high in most European countries, especially European Union member states.
  • The continued breaking down of economic and political barriers within the EU, as well as the relentless enlargement of the Union via the admission of new states, provides fertile ground for market share gains by well-managed corporations. For example, as pointed out by the Manual of Ideas research team in a recent issue of European Value Report, Austrian Post has expanded beyond the borders of its native Austria, pursuing growth opportunities in several emerging economies of Eastern Europe.
  • Finally, we believe David Einhorn may have found an interest in European equities as a result of his search for investments that may provide a hedge versus a declining dollar.

Here is a quick overview of the top two European holdings of Greenlight:

Criteria Caixa (Madrid: CRI)

Criteria Caixa David EinhornCriteria Caixa is an investment group with holdings in financial and industrial companies. The company’s core shareholder is “la Caixa”; it has been listed on the continuous market of the Spanish stock exchange since October 2007. Criteria has a firm commitment to international growth, active management of its portfolio within a framework of controlled risk, and boosting the growth, development and returns of the companies it invests in. Criteria CaixaCorp holds the largest corporate investment portfolio in Spain by net asset volume with a value of €14,823 million at June 30, 2009. [view investor presentation] [read annual report]

Criteria Caixa (click to enlarge)

Arkema (Paris: AKE)

Arkema EinhornArkema is a global chemical company and France’s leading chemicals producer that operates in three businesses: Vinyl Products, Industrial Chemicals, and Performance Products. Arkema reported revenue of 5.6 billion euros in its most recent fiscal year. The company has 15,000 employees in over 40 countries and six research centers located in France, the United States and Japan. With internationally recognized brands, Arkema holds leadership positions in its principal markets. [view investor presentation] [annual report]

Arkema business segments

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October 12, 2009

Key Quotes From Bruce Berkowitz's Recent Conference Call

Bruce Berkowitz, FairholmeBruce Berkowitz of The Fairholme Fund held a call with investors on September 30th [listen to call; read transcript]. As always, we found Berkowitz's commentary lucid and helpful in understanding his approach to investing. Here are a few highlights from the call:

On The History of The Fairholme Fund

"In our first letter to shareholders, in May of 2000, we stated our goal of providing shareholders with superior investment performance, without risking permanent loss of capital. We accomplish our goal when we purchase securities at a significant discount to our estimate of their true worth; that is the cash generated over the life of the investment. In the case of common stocks, we estimate the cash a business will generate for owners over the life of the business. In 2000, the Fairholme Fund had over half its net assets in companies primarily involved in property and casualty insurance. At the time, these companies earned about 20 percent returns on book value, and we paid near book value for them. They were the ugly ducklings of their day that the crowd ignored."

"Since then, we have concentrated in areas such as telecommunications, with the junk bonds of WilTel, eventually acquired by Leucadia, and then Level Three Communications; and WorldCom, which became MCI, and then acquired by Verizon. Today, the fund has about 30 percent of its assets in pharma and managed healthcare. Despite the loud noise of the crowd and the administration's rhetoric, we believe our health-related companies are for essential services and products to an aging population, have few substitutes, and have strong free cash flows relative to market prices."

"While the securities in the portfolio have changed over the years, our adherence to a strategy of counting cash has only become more resolute. By focusing on free cash flows, we steered clear or the dotcom era debacles, as well as the recent financial services meltdown, which brought many once unassailable banks and financial companies to their knees. None of those failed companies could ever show us the money. While we can not predict the future with any high degree of success, we're confident that we can properly respond to whatever the future may bring, by adhering to our basic principles of vigilance, focus, commitment, and value. And by having the necessary cash to quickly act, in size, when the opportunities exist. Cash proves especially useful whenever the cashless are forced to sell without regard to price."

On The Investment Process

"In order to protect your capital, we will continually challenge ourselves by asking how might our investments fail. To help answer this question, we retain outside experts ... devil's advocates, if you will ... who have decades of hands-on operational experience in their respective fields, because knowing what you don't know and tapping those who do is one of the critical skills of investing."

"We're not asking our consultants to sell anything for us. We just really need to pick their brains and make sure we understand what we're getting into. And, by the way, this isn't new. Okay? This is not new. Other companies we've studied, with very long, successful records, have used the same process. So, again, we hire experts to corroborate our ideas, our assumptions; and, more importantly, try and disprove what we think is correct."

"When we commit your capital to an idea, it's because we've exercised vigilance in researching both the upside and especially the downsides of a given investment."

"When researching companies, we start with past SEC reports, conference calls, and investor presentations. We then focus on every business element that requires management to exercise judgment, and every element of accounting that may not reflect reality. For example, we check reserves for insurance claims, bad debts, lawsuits, healthcare liabilities, pension obligations, and Uncle Sam. We assume every estimate is too liberal, too light. We look for kitchen-sinking of real expenses, hidden for periods of time, which, in the aggregate, can reverse years of so-called profits.
Management is considered guilty until proven innocent."

"Then it's time to consider which way the winds are blowing. Is the underlying company facing economic, demographic, technological, political competitive headwinds? Is the business growing? Which way are interest rates heading? We then consider where our security lies within the capital structure of the company, and then assess the entire capital structure of the underlying entity. We look at leverage, return on assets versus the return on equity, tangible equity; we want to weigh the heft of the balance sheet, and review and search for all off-balance-sheet items. Can the business work without leverage? To what extent is the business dependent on the kindness of strangers? And by that I mean the capital providers. We also examine good will, which may or may not be a gift that can keep giving. Then it's on to reviewing customers, suppliers, competitors, substitutes, and think of the industry's concentrations of power. Then it's to review, consider, and think about all the different stakeholders in the company. Who are the owners? The regulators? Taxing authorities? Creditors? Retirees? Unions? How powerful are the employees?"

"And, of course, management must be carefully studied. How much does management take in total compensation? Do they under-promise and overdeliver? Do they respect owners? Are they true owners and not just option-holders? Do they allow a level playing field with owners? How good is the paper trail of key executives? Do they play in the center of the court? Do they have a deep understanding of the business? How have they allocated capital over time? It's awfully hard to make a good investment with bad people."

"We then consider illogical extremes. For example, we considered the U.S. Government's past desire for every family to own a home, and evaluated the effect on relevant financial institutions. We consider the worst case. Are there too many variables to monitor or estimate? What are the correlations with other investments? We try and understand the unknowns. Of course, we want to know how can we die with this investment. For example, we did not know how to quantify monumental derivatives risk."

"Then we return back to the price that we're willing to pay for the security. And while easy to say, it's near impossible to be exact with common stocks. And so we use a price range. Does the range reflect an average past environment and normal risk-free rates? Does it allow bad luck? Stress? And a margin of safety? Can we achieve a double-digit, growing, free cash yield, without risking principal? Are we playing Russian roulette? Are we picking up pennies in front of a steamroller? If we haven't killed the investment idea yet, we then compare it to our other investments. How does the investment compare to an investment in other securities of the underlying entities? How does it compare to our current portfolio investments?"

On The Importance of Cash Flow

"At the end of the day, the only thing that we can spend is cash. We can't spend a click, or an eyeball, or a metric. I mean, we can spend cash to benefit our families. So we count cash. And the best way to understand how we try to count cash is to use the analogy of the corner grocery store ... 7-11, or before the time of credits cards, when there was one cash register, and purchases were made, and cash went into the register, and supplies came in, cash came out to pay for all the supplies, and for salaries, and insurance, and to keep the place looking good. And that's it. And then, at the end of a period, what was left in that cash register was for the owners. And then the owners had to decide how to allocate that cash, whether to spend it, whether to reinvest it back in the business to grow it, or rather to invest it in another business. So all we're trying to do with ... we say it a whole bunch of different ways, all we're trying to do is just to measure that cash and understand how it's reallocated, and understand how it eventually gets into our pockets, the owners of the company."

On Stocks versus Bonds

"At Fairholme, we treat common stock as the most junior bond in a company's capital structure, where the true earnings, the free cash flow of a company, are akin to a coupon without a maturity date. We get really excited when we can find more senior and secure bonds that yield better than average equity-like returns. We then compare market prices to our estimates of free cash flows, to determine
an expected return on investment. Price matters, and buying right is half the battle. Getting a reasonable estimate of expected free cash flow is the other half."

On Whether Large Fund Size Hurts Performance

"Basically, by having most of my family's money in the fund, I try to create the balance necessary for such decisions. Personally, I don't wish to sacrifice that which I have worked hard for and may need for that which I will not need. For now, size has helped. Having cash, when few do, has helped. Having heft makes a positive difference, and one of the few advantages against the unknown. Size also allows us to keep focused on the fund, while keeping fees relatively low for what we do. With scale, we can meet the ever-increasing costs of doing business. The bottom line, we have smart shareholders and directors, who are not afraid to voice their opinion on how our size is affecting our performance."

On Protecting The Portfolio From Inflation

"The best way we can protect against inflation is by finding companies that generate large amounts of free cash, which then can either be profitably reallocated into the company or paid to shareholders. And to find companies with that free cash flow, that coupon is growing. And studying history, it's my belief that that's the best we could possibly do. But, also, real, tangible assets will become more valuable, as it will take more dollars to buy those assets; hence, our recent focus on companies such as St. Joe [JOE]."

On Investing In Emerging Markets

"It's hard enough when you're the home team, investing in your own backyard. I don't want to play an away game, where I don't know all the rules. So the answer is no. There's plenty to do here."

On Sears Holdings (SHLD) (price was $65 on the date of the call)

"...the value of all the pieces, in death, is worth more than the current market price. And if Eddie Lampert turns around Sears and KMart, then it's going to be worth considerably more. In another area, if the stock price goes down, the company continues to buy back stock, great, we win. If the stock price just goes up, we win. I don't see ... this is a good example of how we invert the investment process. I can't see how we're going to lose."

Listen to Bruce Berkowitz's conference call on September 30, 2009.

Read the transcript.

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October 09, 2009

Jim Simons Rides Off Into Sunset

James Simons, Renaissance TechnologiesEasily the best quantitative investor on Wall Street, James Simons of Renaissance Technologies, looks set to retire in the near future. This will certainly mark the end of an era for quantitative investing, as Simons has long been regarded as the most brilliant of a crop of mathematically-driven investment managers.

Learn more about James Simons.

October 08, 2009

New Issue of Graham & Doddsville, a Value Investing Newsletter from the Students of Columbia Business School

Download the Fall 2009 Issue

An excerpt from the Fall 2009 issue:

Feature Interview: Howard Marks, Co-Founder and Chairman, Oaktree Capital Management

"Do An Excellent Job at a Few Things"

G&D: It seems that most investors focus more on the return side of the equation than on risk, whereas you take the opposite perspective.

Howard Marks: That is important, and that is one of the reasons we are still around. Sun Tzu said if you sit by the river long enough, you’ll see the bodies of your enemies float by. The key is “long enough.” If you live long enough, you have to be the survivor. When I was a kid, we didn’t have the video games you have today, so we used to listen to comedy records. One of the greatest ones was Mel Brooks doing the 2000 year old man. Carl Reiner says to him, “how did you get to be the world’s oldest man?”  And he says, “Simple. Don’t die.” How do you get to be the world’s oldest investor?  The answer is don’t crap out.

Founded in 1995,Oaktree manages over $60 billion of investments in a variety of less efficient arenas, including High Yield Debt, Distressed Debt, and Private Equity, among other asset classes. Oaktree’s excellent long-term track record and Mr. Marks’ unique investment philosophy have resulted in a loyal following of investment professionals.  Since starting his career in 1969, Mr. Marks has seen a range of ups and downs in the financial markets, from the growth of the high yield bond market to the current leverage meltdown.

October 04, 2009

The Manual of Ideas on Business Leader Henry Singleton, Founder of Teledyne (audio)

Henry Earl Singleton, TeledyneWe are pleased to bring you an exclusive 115-minute audio program on the strategy and tactics behind the business achievements of Henry Earl Singleton (1916-99), founder of Teledyne. The program is presented by John Mihaljevic, CFA, managing editor of The Manual of Ideas. John walks the listener through key passages of Dr. George A. Roberts's biography of Henry Singleton, entitled Distant Force, and opines on the keys to Singleton's success. Author John Train has credited Berkshire Hathaway chairman Warren Buffett as saying that Singleton has "the best operating and capital deployment record in American business."

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October 03, 2009

Kevin Byun's Q3 2009 Letter to Denali Investors

Kevin ByunUp-and-coming value investors Kevin Byun continued his record of outperformance in the third quarter. In a letter to investors, Byun writes, among other things:

"As we consider our opportunity set, one of the most important factors remains investor psychology/behavior. The investment fishbowl that we inhabit contains limited examples of behavior to emulate but many more of what to avoid. Current market stress has revealed more than investors realize about their true temperament. With many burned quite badly in 2008, they are hoping against hope that a healing process will result in full recovery of assets, despite lingering emotional damage from broken promises and misplaced trust. These once trusting investors are looking for answers, solutions, and peace of mind. Not without irony, they are seeking ever more certainty in an increasingly uncertain world (rather than trying to understand and manage the uncertainty that is inherent in it)."

"So while the market gyrations and machinations have rendered many market participants unable to think and act clearly, we must maintain a stable internal compass, and make full use of our practical sensibilities. It is critical, regardless of our recent performance or legacy positions, that we maintain a steady temperament, consistent research process, and clear thinking about the current opportunity set before us."

"Given the erratic nature of the market, I have become increasingly optimistic about our opportunity set. The uncertainty and dislocation are a blessing to value investors, not because we enjoy uncertainty or dislocation, but because of the opportunities they create. Our strategy has remained consistent throughout and I am selectively employing our flexible and tactical approach congruent with our investment framework."

Read Byun's Q3 letter to investors.

October 01, 2009

Joel Greenblatt's Book Recommendations

Joel Greenblatt, Gotham CapitalJoel Greenblatt is the founder and a Managing Partner of Gotham Capital and Adjunct Professor of Finance and Economics at Columbia Business School. He is the author of You Can Be A Stock Market Genius (Simon & Schuster, 1997) and The Little Book That Beats the Market (Wiley, 2005). He is the former Chairman of the Board of Alliant Techsystems, an NYSE aerospace and defense firm. Greenblatt is also Chairman of the Success Charter Network, a network of charter schools in New York City.

Greenblatt is famous in the investment world for his long-term investment track record, which ranks among the best ever and is believed to comprise returns of some 40% per year for more than two decades.

The following are books listed on the syllabus of the value and special situation investing course Greenblatt teaches at Columbia Business School:

Brian Gaines's Book Recommendations

Brian GainesIn a September 2009 interview with Portfolio Manager's Review, up-and-coming value investor Brian Gaines, founder of Springhouse Capital Management, provides the following book recommendations in response to a question:

Brian Gaines: "I tend to read and re-read more of the business history books as it is always useful to compare and contrast past periods to today’s times. Books like Barbarians at the Gate, The Vulture Investors or Merchants of Debt are consistently great reads. Market Wizards also provides some interesting comparisons to today’s markets. I recently read Lords of Finance about central bankers following World War I and through the Great Depression and it was fascinating."

See also books recommended by...

The David Einhorn Page (Greenlight Capital) (updated)

David Einhorn is one of the most widely respected hedge fund managers.  He employs a value-oriented, research-intensive long-short strategy in managing Greenlight Capital.

General information:

Speeches:

Letters to investors:

Other letters:

  • March 2009: Letter to Ontario Securities Commission objecting to agreements between MI Developments (MIM) and Magna Entertainment (MECA -- bankrupt)
  • July 2007: Letter to the Board of Directors of Washington Group opposing merger with URS

Videos about David Einhorn:

  • CNBC, September 8, 2009 (Einhorn presents short thesis on McGraw-Hill)
  • CNBC, September 3, 2009 (revisiting Einhorn's short thesis on Lehman)
  • CNBC, May 28, 2009 (what Einhorn was buying at the time)
  • CNBC, May 28, 2009 (Einhorn on gold)

September 30, 2009

Notes From Fairholme Conference Call: Berkowitz Sticks to Time Tested Principles

Bruce Berkowitz, Fairholme FundBy Ravi Nagarajan

In a conference call this afternoon, Bruce Berkowitz answered a number of shareholder questions regarding The Fairholme Fund, the state of the overall stock market, and prospects for health care reform.  Mr. Berkowitz’s record at The Fairholme Fund since its inception on December 29, 1999 has been nothing short of extraordinary.  Based on the fund’s semi-annual report dated June 30, 2009, annualized performance since inception has been a gain of over 12% annualized compared to a loss of over 3% annualized for the S&P 500.

This article documents some of the notes that I took during the call and are not necessarily direct quotations.  This is not a comprehensive transcript of the event, but focused on areas that I found particularly interesting.  A replay of the conference call should be available on The Fairholme Fund’s website in the near future.

Disclaimer:  I took notes quickly and while I believe the content of this post to be accurate, it is possible that some errors were made.

Due Diligence Process

Here are some of Mr. Berkowitz’s comments in response to a shareholder question regarding how he goes about performing due diligence on prospective investments:

  • Review all securities in the capital structure of a company rather than just the common stock.  Common stock should be viewed as the most junior “bond” in a company’s capital structure.  The free cash flow generated by the business is akin to a coupon without a maturity date.  Count the cash after all bills, interest on senior securities, and maintenance capital expenditures.  The free cash flow can then be compared to market prices to come up with free cash flow yields.
  • Fairholme reviews SEC reports, company conference calls, presentations, and other sources when researching an investment.  It is important to focus on every business element that requires management to exercise judgment.  Examine the accounting carefully and pay particular attention to pensions, health care liabilities, regulatory, and tax issues.  Management is “guilty until proven innocent” if there are inconsistencies between the balance sheet, income statement, and cash flow statements.  Be particularly wary of “kitchen sink” charges that could enter into the picture.
  • Examine whether a business model can exist without leverage.  Avoid having to rely on the “kindness of strangers” whenever possible.  Examine where the security being analyzed lies within the overall capital structure.
  • Examine whether managers are true owners rather than just option holders.  This test can be applied by determining whether an executive has actually purchased shares in the open market rather than only through option grants.  It is hard to make a good investment with bad people.  Examine their capital allocation decisions over time.
  • Try to “kill the investment idea”.  If you cannot kill the idea, then it should be compared to other investment candidates that have gone through the same research process as well as existing portfolio companies.  Fairholme focuses on fewer investments than most others in order to have superior understanding of the businesses.  They try to avoid growing their circle of competence too quickly if the risk is losing money.
  • Fairholme uses industry experts and consultants as part of the research process in order to contain costs by avoiding the need to retain such experts on payroll on a full time basis.

Health Care Reform

Many of The Fairholme Fund’s investments are concentrated within the health care sector.  A number of shareholders submitted questions asking about the impact of health care reform on the portfolio holdings.  Mr. Berkowitz turned this part of the call over to Charlie Fernandez.

  • The fund’s analysts and managers are following developments in health care reform on a daily basis.  The mission of the various reform proposals is to expand health coverage for 20 to 25 million Americans and will result in modifying insurance rules and changing rules for Medicare payments.  Mr. Fernandez expects that a bill will pass this year and should cost around $900 billion.  He noted that most reforms do not begin until 2013 and that the plans under discussion include ten years of revenues to pay for seven years of the program.
  • Medicaid expansion will result in opportunities for insurers while the key hospital groups and the pharmaceutical industry have already cut deals with President Obama.  Mr. Fernandez noted that hospitals will have lower bad debt expenses under the reform proposals and that part of the benefit will flow to pharmaceutical firms which typically have claw back agreements with hospitals related to bad debt expenses.  He expects that a 5% increase in revenues for pharmaceutical companies could result from lower bad debt expense for hospitals.
  • Pfizer is The Fairholme Fund’s largest holding and a number of shareholders submitted questions or concerns regarding the investment.  Mr. Fernandez believes that the Wyeth merger will close in Q4 and probably prior to Thanksgiving.  $6 billion in cost reductions are expected within 18 months.  Within one year of the merger, no product will represent more than 10% of profits, a statistic similar to Johnson & Johnson.  Pfizer is also expanding its presence in generics.  The company has growth from 13th to 8th place in the United States in generic drugs.  Fairholme believes that double digit free cash flow yields will accrue to buyers of Pfizer common stock at current market prices.

Other Comments

  • Inflation. Mr. Berkowitz believes that the best way to protect against inflation is to find companies with large and growing free cash flows which are either paid out or reinvested in the business at satisfactory rates of return.  Also, tangible assets will become more valuable if inflation accelerates which is one of the reasons behind the fund’s investment in St. Joe, a large real estate development company in Florida.
  • Sears Holdings. Mr. Berkowitz does not appear to be concerned with the factors discussed in a recent bearish article on Sears that appeared in Barrons.  He still believes that the value of the sum of the parts of Sears is worth more than the current stock price.  If Sears Chairman Eddie Lampert can turn around Sears and K Mart, the shares would be worth considerably more, but this is not central to the thesis.  If Sears Holdings stock price declines, more repurchases of shares are likely and this will benefit shareholders.  If the stock price goes up, shareholders also win.
  • Any Interest In Emerging Markets? Mr. Berkowitz believes that it is hard enough when you’re the home team and he doesn’t want to play “an away game” where he doesn’t know the rules.  There is plenty to do here in the United States.
  • Thoughts on Berkshire and Leucadia. Although a great deal of information is available on these investments, both can be considered “blind trusts”, but being an investor for decades makes it sort of like marriage.  Mr. Berkowitz fully respects the managers of both companies.  He previously sold shares of Berkshire due to the company’s size, age of management, and Warren Buffett’s statement that Berkshire cannot be expected to beat the S&P 500 by large margins.  However, now that Mr. Buffett has put a significant amount of cash to work at higher returns, Fairholme bought back some shares at the “excellent prices” offered earlier in the year.

Value investors would be wise to pay close attention to The Fairholme Fund’s holdings as well as future statements by Mr. Berkowitz.  While SEC filings are available for The Fairholme Fund’s holdings, GuruFocus.com makes it easy to monitor Mr. Berkowitz’s moves along with the activities of many other super-investors.  Investors should always do their own work on any idea, regardless of who is buying a stock.  However, there is no shame in using super-investors as idea sources and coat-tailing when it makes sense to do so.

The author of this post, Ravi Nagarajan, is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

Disclosure:  The author does not own shares of The Fairholme Fund or any of the other companies discussed in this post with the exception of Berkshire Hathaway.

Ori Eyal's August Letter to Investors

Up-and-coming value investor Ori Eyal of Emerging Value Capital Management provides some interesting commentary in his latest latter to investors. He points out that Chinese company presentations at the recent Rodman & Renshaw Investment Conference in New York were "not even 'standing room only'. 'Squeezing room only' would be a more accurate description." Eyal views this kind of torrid investor appetite for emerging market equities as a contrary indicator, supporting his view that it's once again time to be cautious on equities.

In the letter, Eyal also presents an investment case on G. Willi-Food International (WILC), one of Israel's largest food importers with a focus on the Kosher and health food segments. For those looking for global exposure at a reasonable price, this investment idea is worthy of consideration.

Read Ori Eyal's August 2009 letter to investors.

September 29, 2009

Notes From Pabrai Investor Meeting in Huntington Beach, CA, September 26, 2009

Alex Bossert has posted detailed notes of the recent meeting of Pabrai Funds. As always, Mohnish Pabrai provides some interesting views and "food for thought."

September 27, 2009

Einhorn Adds McGraw-Hill to Ratings Agency Short Trade (updated)

David Einhorn of Greenlight Capital, one of the 20+ superinvestors regularly tracked by Portfolio Manager's Review, apparently started shorting McGraw-Hill (MHP) after a court ruling against the company in early September. Einhorn has been short the other major credit ratings firm, Moody's (MCO), for quite a while. Listen to Einhorn lay out his bearish thesis on the ratings agencies in the following CNBC interview.

Same-day CNBC interview with Terry McGraw, CEO of McGraw-Hill:

Same-day CNBC interview with Sean Egan, president of Egan-Jones Ratings:

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September 25, 2009

Oaktree's Howard Marks: Letters Galore!

Oaktree Capital Management has posted a wonderful archive of letters by chairman Howard Marks, dating all the way back to 1990. Enjoy!

CNBC Interview with Famed Hedge Fund Manager Julian Robertson of Tiger Management (video)

Robertson has been right on the money many times in his storied career -- his opinion is always noteworthy.

September 24, 2009

Bill Ackman's September 18th Letter

Pershing Square Q2 Letter

September 23, 2009

Faber on Why U.S. Government Will Fail, Current Investment Opportunities

Follow this link to access the latest insights offered by the no-nonsense Marc Faber. In the Bloomberg interview, Mr. Faber has some harsh words for U.S. policymakers, provides his view on the direction of the S&P 500, and offers some interesting insights into prospects for Asian economies.

September 21, 2009

Margin of Safety and Chris Flowers

Christopher FlowersFortune profiles Chris Flowers, one of the best-known private equity investors in financial services companies.

My working hypothesis, as I try to expand my manager selection skills from stockpickers to other platforms like real estate investing and private equity investing, is that these other platforms can and should also be viewed through the lens of value investing.  Simply put, you evaluate a private equity fund manager the same way you evaluate a hedge fund manager: by trying to predict that individual's ability to generate superior risk-adjusted returns over time.

"Risk-adjusted," in the value investor's dictionary, simply means the combination of the probability of permanent (as opposed to quotational) capital loss and the magnitude of that loss when it occurs.  In private equity, adjusting for risk in this way is especially important because private equity relies on leverage.  In private equity investing in banks, it's even more important because banks themselves are highly leveraged businesses.  Small mistakes in predicting the future by managers become big mistakes to limited partners.

A value investor creates superior risk-adjusted returns mainly by investing with a margin of safety.  "Margin of safety" is often defined simply as a bargain price, and it's certainly true that the lower the price of an investment relative to its intrinsic value, the lower its risk according to our definition.  I prefer the slightly more elaborate definition contained in Seth Klarman's aptly titled book Margin of Safety because it gets to the epistemological truth about why value investing works as well as it does:

Margin of Safety--investing at considerable discounts from underlying value, an individual provides himself or herself room for imprecision, bad luck, or analytical error (i.e., a "margin of safety") while avoiding sizable losses (my emphasis).

Value investing is ultimately a theory about the future, in particular the future of any given set of cash flows one chooses to predict.  Value investors like Klarman see the future, almost intuitively, as subject to imprecision, bad luck, and analytical error, and seek to minimize the impact of this on their investment returns.  They do this primarily by looking only for bargains, but also by making sure what they think is a bargain is actually a bargain--by investing only when they can predict the future of a given set of cash flows with relative certainty.

Protecting yourself and your investors from imprecision, bad luck, and analytical error, and making sure you invest only when you can reasonably predict the future--that is, ensuring you have a margin of safety--becomes especially important in private equity because of the leverage involved.  Leverage does not change the probability of a given universe of outcomes so much as it magnifies the effect of those outcomes to equity holders.  The more leverage, the greater the probability of a great outcome if things go well, but also the greater the likelihood of permanent capital loss is if they don't.

So figuring out whether your PE manager invests with a margin of safety is very very important.  This Fortune profile only gives a glimpse of whether Flowers does it.  It cites two examples of permanent capital loss, but also gives ample evidence that Flowers really knows his way around a bank.  So I can't draw any firm conclusions.  And I take no comfort from the fact that Warren Buffett is quoted as saying of Flowers "I think he's a smart guy."  In the language of Wall Street, "I think he's a smart guy" is a way of saying something without revealing anything.  Also, I'm familiar with the Warren Buffett style of personal testimonials, which he takes as seriously as haiku, and can say with confidence that when Warren Buffett wants to praise someone, he doesn't simply say "I think he's a smart guy."  He says something like this:

Jim Kilts transformed Gillette.  Before his arrival, the company was a study in self-deception.  Great brands were being mishandled, operational and financial discipline was nonexistent, and fanciful promises to investors were standard practice.  In record time, Jim excised these business pathogens.  I've learned much from Jim.  So, too, will readers of this book.

or this:

In this book, Adam Smith says I like baseball metaphors.  He's right.  So I will just describe this book as the equivalent of the performance of Don Larsen on October 8, 1956.  For the uninitiated, that was the day he pitched the only perfect game in World Series history.

or this:

I knew Ben [Graham] as my teacher, my employer, and my friend.  In each relationship--just as with all his students, employees and friends--there was an absolutely open-ended, no-scores-kept generosity of ideas, time, and spirit.  If clarity of thinking was required, there was no better place to go.  And if encouragement or counsel was needed, Ben was there.

Walter Lippman spoke of men who plant trees that other men will sit under.  Ben Graham was such a man.

Because I can't draw any conclusions from the Fortune article, I'll instead close with two more general point about margin of safety in PE, especially famous PE investors with great reputations:

1) It's important to keep in mind that a famous PE investor enjoys a personal margin of safety that his L.P.s do not:  If a given fund goes badly, he can always say "bad luck, who could have predicted these macro shocks" and go raise another fund, while if it goes well he'll become extremely rich, or extremely richer.  So a given PE investment may pass the personal margin of safety test while failing to provide an adequate margin of safety to his investors.     

2) The intuitive understanding of and desire for a margin of safety when investing are independent of a PE manager's pedigree, brainpower, contacts, fame, deal flow, skill at chess*, etc.  If you possess all of the latter but lack the former, you may be more dangerous to your investors' long-term wealth than if you possess all of the former but none of the latter.  If you put a gun to my head and forced me to say what Buffett meant by his faint praise of Flowers, I would speculate that he thinks of Flowers the same way he thinks of John Meriwether: "I think he's a smart guy, but . . . he doesn't invest with a margin of safety."

*As an aside, I hate it when skill at chess is presented as a metaphor or proxy for competence in general, especially when applied to investors.  It is factually untrue.  Chess masters and grandmasters have been studied to see if their skill at the game translates into skill at anything else, or IQ, or other measures of intelligence.  Generally it does not: skill at chess implies only that you are skilled at chess.  The most you could say is that skill at chess is a proxy for the ability to practice hard enough to get good at a mental exercise like chess.  That aside, judging investors by their skill at chess, or bridge, or other games of skill, is like judging offensive linemen by their bench presses at the scouting combine.

Disclosure: Long Berkshire Hathaway.

The author of this post is Nadav Manham, president of Elera Advisors LLC, an investment advisory company focused on value-oriented manager selection. Mr. Manham is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Investor's Consigliere.

September 17, 2009

Pabrai Funds: Annual Meeting Notes By Simoleon Sense

One of our favorite bloggers, Miguel Barbosa of Simoleon Sense, recently attended Mohnish Pabrai's investor meeting in Chicago. Here are his notes.
Mohnish Pabrai Chicago Meeting 2009 Notes

Warren Buffett Reflects on “Extraordinary Weekend” One Year Ago

In the CNBC interview shown below, Becky Quick asks Warren Buffett about the flurry of calls he received during the “extraordinary weekend” one year ago. Apparently Mr. Buffett was the go-to guy that weekend for the cast of characters facing imminent financial ruin. Although none of the deals offered to him that weekend worked out, Mr. Buffett has no regrets regarding any missed opportunities.  I suspect that the deals he was able to put together in the subsequent month fully rewarded his reluctance to hurry into transactions in an overheated crisis situation.

The author of this post, Ravi Nagarajan, is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

Buffett Lacks Enthusiasm for Kraft’s Cadbury Bid

In the second part of the CNBC interview shown below, Warren Buffett comments on Kraft’s recent bid for Cadbury.  While he expressed confidence in Kraft’s management, he was very clear in stating that Kraft already made a “full price” offer and is at a disadvantage since part of the deal involves using “undervalued” Kraft stock. Mr. Buffett also comments on a variety of other topics including the residential real estate market.  The first part of the interview was posted with some comments on this site last night.

The author of this post, Ravi Nagarajan, is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

September 10, 2009

Prem Watsa's business style on display in financing deal

Here is an interesting article on Fairfax Financial CEO Prem Watsa, one of the 20+ superinvestors whose stock picks are tracked in Portfolio Manager's Review.

September 04, 2009

Preview: Exclusive Interview with Brian Gaines in Portfolio Manager's Review

The upcoming "Magic Formula" Issue of Portfolio Manager's Review will feature an exclusive interview with one of the most impressive up-and-coming value investors of recent years -- Brian Gaines of Springhouse Capital Management. We are pleased to bring you this sneak preview.

MOI: Tell us a little about the genesis of your firm. What goals did you have at the outset, and what operating principles have guided you since then?

Brian Gaines: The way Springhouse started was slightly unusual in that I never sat down and had any grand plans to start a firm. I had worked for Gotham Capital as an intern and then full-time during my second year of business school at Wharton and had plans to join them upon returning to New York in the fall of 2002. Upon arrival, Joel Greenblatt sat me down and asked if I wanted to start my own fund, which would be seeded initially with their capital. I could work out of their offices, use their infrastructure, and focus all my time on company research. For anyone who loves picking stocks as much as I do, this was a dream scenario.

[...]

MOI: In one of your guest lectures at Columbia Business School, you presented a case study of the video rental industry. What struck us was your ability to “follow the story” and keep discovering new opportunities in the sector as your work on one company led you to look into its competitors, and so forth. One of your major investments in the space ended up being in Netflix (NFLX), a major disruptive force in the industry. What motivated you to invest in a company like Netflix and how did you decide when to sell?

Brian Gaines: Netflix is a prime example of an idea that came from researching another idea. We had an investment in Movie Gallery (MVGR), which subsequent to our investment went on to leverage up and buy Hollywood Video. Throughout my research on Movie Gallery, Netflix kept popping up as a clear competitive threat. I always think back to the CEO of Movie Gallery saying in 2004 that Netflix would never be more than a niche service and that people liked going to the video store too much.

As an aside, CEO’s often speak in absolutes, but we have learned to be wary of individuals, including investors, who view the world in absolute terms. Yes, there were some people who liked going to the video store but there were many people who would sooner go to the dentist.

As for investing in Netflix, the important thing for us was we never paid for the growth. When we first invested, we were paying around 5-6x operating income if you backed out the growth portion of the subscriber acquisition costs and made a fair assessment of what it would cost to maintain the subscriber base. Basically, on a story where you had clear evidence in early entrance markets like San Francisco that the product was taking well, you were able to get the growth for free. This was a good example of where we thought we had excellent downside protection with more than 50% upside. We were able to invest very successfully in Netflix on two separate occasions when the market refused to give credit for growth. When the market was willing to give any credit for growth, which was happening at a rapid pace, we elected to exit.

[...]

MOI: What books have you read in recent years that have stood out as valuable additions to your investment library?

Brian Gaines: I tend to read and re-read more of the business history books as it is always useful to compare and contrast past periods to today’s times. Books like Barbarians at the Gate, The Vulture Investors or Merchants of Debt are consistently great reads. Market Wizards also provides some interesting comparisons to today’s markets. I recently read Lords of Finance about central bankers following World War I and through the Great Depression and it was fascinating.

[...]

MOI: More recently, Joel Greenblatt has been associated with so-called “magic formula” investing in companies that trade at high EBIT-to-EV yields and earn high returns on capital employed. However, those who have followed Joel for a long time know that he has been adept at identifying all sorts of pockets of inefficiency in the public markets, including spinoffs, equity stubs, and LEAPs. What types of situations have you found to be particularly fertile hunting grounds over the years, and where are you finding the most interesting opportunities right now?

Brian Gaines: It’s been a crazy seven years since we started...

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September 03, 2009

Andy Kern's Thesis on CombiMatrix (CBMX)

Andy Kern of Empirical Finance LLC makes an interesting case for microcap biotech company CombiMatrix (CBMX). While biotech is not typically fertile hunting ground for value-oriented investors, CombiMatrix may be different.

Disclosure: No position.

September 02, 2009

Great Read: Sequoia Fund Meeting Transcript

We have enjoyed reading the transcript of Sequoia Fund's recent investor meeting, and believe you will, too. Here is a quick excerpt on the topic of investing in publicly held real estate companies:

Question: Being aware of what’s going on with real estate, I wonder whether it could be attractive for the fund?

Bob Goldfarb: I’d say with regard to real estate itself, it has several characteristics that are almost antithetical to the characteristics that we look for when we make an investment. It has a pretty low return on capital. It’s highly levered, and that means that it doesn’t take a large decline in demand to cause real problems. I noticed just yesterday that Forest City, which is a company that has been around for a long time and has been through many of these cycles — and it’s controlled by the Ratner family — was forced to sell stock at very unattractive levels. We saw Vornado, which is considered one of the best REITs, sell stock just a few weeks ago at a fraction of the price they could have sold stock for a year ago. So I think
real estate itself ... a lot of money has been made in real estate, and it will be made in real estate going forward. But a lot of money has already been lost and will be lost in real estate.

Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day 2009 -- Transcript

Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day May 15, 2009 – St. Regis Hotel, New York City Below is the transcript of the question-and-answer session that followed Bob Goldfarb’s prepared remarks at Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day on May 15, 2009 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The text has been edited for clarity. Bob Goldfarb: Before opening the floor for questions, I’d like to introduce the members of our team. On my far left is Greg Steinmetz. Next to Greg is Jon Brandt. On my immediate left is David Poppe who is co-manager of Sequoia and president of our firm. To my right are Greg Alexander and Joe Quinones, who oversees the operations of the firm as well as those of Sequoia. Unfortunately, Rick Cunniff is unable to be here today because he’s not feeling well. To my left in the front row and to the right of most of you is the rest of our analytical team. In alphabetical order, they are Vish Arya, Girish Bhakoo, John Harris, Jake Hennemuth, Arman Kline, Trevor Magyar, Tom Mialkos, Terence Paré, Chase Sheridan, and Stephan van der Mersch. I’d also like to introduce Jon Gross who is our director of client services. With that, we’re ready for your questions. Question: Given your opening remarks, can you talk about potential hedging strategies so that you don’t have another 2008? And a second question — health care in the United States looks like it’s going to become an entitlement. There’s not a lot of exposure to it in your portfolios. Are you anticipating any investments in health care? Bob Goldfarb: On the first, you shouldn’t expect us to hedge. And you probably shouldn’t expect another 2008. As for health care, it’s going to be a double-edged sword for many health care companies. We’ll likely see more volume but some contraction in profitability or in profit margins emanating from price pressure from the government. There’s already been some of that in the past with Medicare setting prices, and clearly the HMOs have impacted prices as well. We’ll continue to look at health care stocks, but we’ll look at them with full consideration given to the likelihood of increasing volumes offsetting contracting margins. If we can find some that are going to enjoy the benefit of rising volumes but not suffer countervailing falling margins and prices, we’d be more favorably inclined or disposed toward those. Question: You mentioned that the United States has the ability to print currency that the rest of the world will accept. I guess Herbert Stein said if something is not sustainable, it will stop. Have you considered the possibility that although the rest of the world has been accepting our currency, that perhaps it will not? Bob Goldfarb: I consider it very unlikely that today our currency won’t be accepted. Certainly when you go out a few years, it’s possible. There have been some ideas floated for replacing or supplementing the dollar as a reserve currency. The ones I’ve seen that seem most practical involve a market basket of currencies which may or may not include the dollar — but probably would — replacing the dollar itself. The world needs a reserve currency. But it’s interesting that when the world sought a safe haven in the turmoil during the last year, it looked to the greenback. That’s the best measure of a safe haven. Now you’ve also seen an increase in the price of gold, and you could argue that’s an alternative. But at the present time, it’s the dollar. In the future, if we continue to print money at a rapid rate, the world may well have to seek an alternative. Question: You covered Porsche in the annual report where you talked about the favorable risk/reward opportunity in a couple of paragraphs. Obviously there’s been a fair amount of news recently about a potential merger with Volkswagen. I’m curious as to your current views and if anything has changed from what you described in the annual report. David Poppe: Porsche was the worst performing stock in Sequoia last year, and it’s the worst Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City performing stock in Sequoia so far this year. So it’s hard for me to sit here confidently and tell you what’s going to happen next. We think the value of Porsche — and we’ve thought this for a while — is greater than the current stock price indicates. But it’s extremely difficult for investors to get a good handle on what the intrinsic value of the business is when the company has been so opaque in its dealings with Volkswagen. I think we probably erred analytically in not seeing just how difficult the auto market would be. Volkswagen is not GM, but that doesn’t mean Volkswagen couldn’t earn significantly less in this kind of economy. I think we maybe didn’t take that prospect seriously enough. But I think the basic problem with Porsche right now is that the facts around the merger or the potential merger with Volkswagen are so unclear. Our view is — and I don’t want to say that we have any special knowledge — but our view is that Porsche has alternatives other than being swallowed up by Volkswagen that would be better for the Porsche shareholder. Porsche is controlled, 100 percent of the voting rights, by the Porsche and Piëch families. It seems doubtful to us that they would agree to a merger with Volkswagen that would destroy their families’ net worth. As mentioned, there are alternatives for Porsche other than either being subsumed into Volkswagen or trying to buy 75 percent of Volkswagen stock so that they can get what in Germany is called a domination agreement and control Volkswagen. We don’t think Porsche will end up with 20 billion euros of debt. We don’t think Porsche will end up being sold to Volkswagen for 30-40 euros per share. That said, the Porsche stock was 180 euros at the end of 2007 and clearly we got it wrong on the upside as to what Porsche’s true value was because that would have been a terrific sale. Greg, do you have anything you want to add to that? Greg Steinmetz: I just want to point out that Porsche, as David said, is not without options. They still own 50 percent of what I think last quarter was the world’s biggest car company, and there’s value in that. The brands are still strong. What’s frustrating is that the Volkswagen people are negotiating with Porsche right now through press releases and putting out all sorts of comments, which I think are designed to drive down Porsche’s stock price and put more pressure on the family to agree to terms that may not be favorable to them. But I am confident that the Porsche family and management are going to hold out here and try to extract the best terms they can. Question: Could somebody tell us what is happening with Mohawk? Last year, I remember you were very gloomy. Maybe you can tell us about the fundamentals. Terence Paré: Mohawk sells floor covering. Its sales are driven primarily by existing home sales, commercial construction and remodeling and, to a lesser extent, new home sales. It’s no news that we haven’t been buying or selling a lot of houses, and we haven’t been building many houses. In fact, we built way too many houses. And it’s going to take a long time for that excess inventory to get sopped up. One way to think about Mohawk today, and to put it into the context of Bob’s comments, is to look at the pluses and minuses for the company as it exists now, given the way we feel about the economy. On the downside, of course, is this continuing contraction of consumers’ spending and their being more thrifty — obviously, it’s better if people are going to throw around a lot of money, buy vacation houses, and put flooring in — Mohawk will suffer from that. But the structure of the company is such that it’s in a pretty good position, even if people are going to be thrifty because its product line goes from goods that are very expensive to those that are very inexpensive. If the consumer moves down market, Mohawk still stands in a good position to capture a lot of that business. Carpet can be a relatively inexpensive or an expensive type of floor covering. Mohawk also makes high quality laminate, which is an economical alternative to wood flooring. So there’s that. The price range for Dal-Tile’s offerings like that of the carpet business goes from very affordable to very expensive. The company is well positioned for thrifty consumers, and if you want to spend a lot of money, they have expensive things to sell you as well. 2 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City On the other side, somewhat offsetting a longer-term contraction of consumer spending, is the fundamental driver of housing, which is household formation. And that is simply going to continue no matter how thrifty we are. If you just look at the demographics, the people who are alive today — college students — my son and daughter are eventually going to move out of the house — we would like them to be there forever, but they’re going to move out. And they will have to form households. They will have to buy houses; and they will have to buy flooring. If you just look at the numbers, there’s a very big demographic wave coming to create demand for housing in the future. So it’s very, very difficult to tell how long the recovery in demand is going to take, but the fundamental driver of housing is still there. It’s alive and walking around. So I think over the long run Mohawk will be fine. It will be difficult for it to produce the same volume of sales as in the past because there’s not going to be a housing boom. But again, partially offsetting that, the business itself — the whole industry has contracted. Marginal players are strapped. They’re going to be dropping out. Mohawk itself has radically downsized; management has laid off 20 percent of its workforce over the past year. And they’ve idled a lot of assets, the least productive assets first — which is what your common sense would tell you to do. When demand returns, Mohawk will be manufacturing with its most productive assets. So over the long run, it will be okay. When exactly that is going to happen I’m not prepared to say because I don’t know. David Poppe: What I would add to that is Mohawk has a terrific family ownership. It’s the kind of owner-manager whom we really like. It has a very good duopoly position in the industry. Shaw is the other major flooring company. With only two large companies in that industry, you should have very rational pricing over time. They are much stronger than any of the smaller companies. But you could ask yourself ... in a horrible macro environment, we had the common sense to sell Bed, Bath & Beyond and Lowe’s, which are two companies that would be oriented similarly to Mohawk in terms of their exposure to housing, but we didn’t sell Mohawk. We could be second-guessed for that, and I suppose it comes down to sometimes the macro environment is very negative, and we made the decision that this is a management team that we think will manage through it, and be in a good position in the long term because it is a duopoly industry, and housing is likely to ... we are likely to have a million or a million-two housing starts per year over the long term in the US, even if this year we build 400,000-500,000 houses. In the short term, holding Mohawk has been a really poor decision. In the long term, we’re hoping and expecting that it will be a better decision. Bob Goldfarb: I would also point out that sales of existing homes are much more of a driver of Mohawk’s fortunes than sales of new homes. So if I were looking for an indicator or barometer of activity, that’s the one I’d focus on. Terence, Mohawk has a lower share, doesn’t it, in the builder market? Terence Paré: Yes, it does. Bob Goldfarb: Yes, they have a lower share in the builder market and a higher share in the remodeling market, which is driven by the sales of existing homes, and so I think we’ve seen some stabilization and modest uptake in sales of existing homes in recent months. That’s about the first positive harbinger that we’ve seen regarding Mohawk and we would expect that there will be more to come over time. Question: What are the prospects for Expeditors in a world of contracting global trade? Greg Steinmetz: Expeditors experienced a 30 percent decline in volume last quarter, which is enormous. The global market contracted about 20 percent, but Expeditors consciously gave up some business because it wasn’t priced properly. As a result, their profits didn’t fall nearly as much and what they call their net revenue, which is where they make their money, fell only 10 percent. Their operating profit fell only about 13 percent. What they’re able to do is really 3 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City optimize their network so that they can squeeze as much profit out of their operations as humanly possible. They’re a terrific company. Unlike other freight forwarders out there, they’re wholly built from scratch. They haven’t made any acquisitions. That gives them advantages in the marketplace because everyone is on the same page. If you’re trying to ship a box from China to Los Angeles, a lot of things can happen with the paperwork. You want seamless handoffs, and Expeditors is very good at delivering that. They have the best service. They also have a cost advantage in China because they ship so much volume out of there. What I think will happen is that we are going to have a few years when Expeditors doesn’t grow. When things pick up they will begin taking share like they have been for the 30 years they’ve been in business. It’s a terrific company. There’s nothing that’s happened there that makes us think otherwise. They’re still the best operator in the business, and they have almost $900 million on the balance sheet and no debt. Bob Goldfarb: I’d add that it wouldn’t surprise me if the unit volumes that we saw in the first quarter marked the nadir of the decline. Our retailers as a whole are big customers of Expeditors. In response to very weak sales in the fourth quarter, they ordered very, very little merchandise to be shipped in the first. We’re beginning to see some of those retailers say that they’re losing sales because they didn’t buy sufficient inventory. I don’t think it will be a quick turnaround, but again, it wouldn’t surprise me if there were some improvement going forward. Question: Being aware of what’s going on with real estate, I wonder whether it could be attractive for the fund? Bob Goldfarb: I’d say with regard to real estate itself, it has several characteristics that are almost antithetical to the characteristics that we look for when we make an investment. It has a pretty low return on capital. It’s highly levered, and that means that it doesn’t take a large decline in demand to cause real problems. I noticed just yesterday that Forest City, which is a company that has been around for a long time and has been through many of these cycles — and it’s controlled by the Ratner family — was forced to sell stock at very unattractive levels. We saw Vornado, which is considered one of the best REITs, sell stock just a few weeks ago at a fraction of the price they could have sold stock for a year ago. So I think real estate itself ... a lot of money has been made in real estate, and it will be made in real estate going forward. But a lot of money has already been lost and will be lost in real estate. Question: When you say low return on capital, could you explain what you mean by that? Greg Alexander: If you take a typical business that we own shares in and take the physical assets of the business and look at what the operating income is before interest expense or taxes, and you divide one by the other, it’s a high return. I don’t know what it is but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was in the twenties or thirties at least. In real estate, if you build a new shopping mall or buy an existing shopping mall, you’re probably lucky if you get an 8 percent yield — you probably have built the most successful new shopping mall in the neighborhood for a long time. Question: In your shareholder’s letter dated February 13, you refer to an insolvent banking system, which I guess demonstrates, if nothing else, that you’re not an employee of the US government. But I wonder if following all the interventions and private capital raisings that have taken place in the last three months you would still use that adjective. Jon Brandt: That’s a tough one. I haven’t done an analysis of the system as a whole, but if you have a company which has anywhere from three to five percent equity-to-assets, and in the current market you can’t sell the loans that constitute most of the assets for more than 97 cents or 96 cents, you could argue that the system is insolvent. The other way of looking at it is whether you can earn your way out of it. Those loans may be selling for less than 97 cents now, but many of them may sell for more when 4 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City economic conditions improve. So the question is whether you look at banks as a static system, or a living, breathing, earning animal that, as the economy eventually gets better, will be able to earn enough to pay off the losses that are going to result from this downturn. There will be some banks that won’t. There are a lot of different companies and they have different circumstances. Some of them have very high earnings rates before losses — pre-provision, pre-tax profits — others don’t. The ones with the higher margins and the higher earnings levels before losses should be able to earn their way out. I suspect that at the nadir of most recessions, it would look like the banking system is more or less insolvent. The other thing is that so much of the lending that’s going on in the economy or has been going on for the last 10-20 years has been in the securitization markets. So whether or not the banks themselves are solvent or insolvent is important, but it’s not the only thing that is important in terms of restoring the natural functioning of the nation’s credit markets. Question: Last year when we were talking about Rolls-Royce, I believe that you said that they had back orders of eight years’ production of engines. I think later on in the year I spoke with someone at the office and they said it was down to five years. I wonder where that stands. I have a second question. Is there any thought of upgrading the website for the Sequoia Fund so that the shareholders will be able to access their accounts and see something other than that which is up there, which is basically a textbook? Arman Kline: I’m not quite sure that the data you mentioned for Rolls is correct. The latest figures we have for Rolls-Royce are for the end of the last fiscal year, and its backlog was up 24 percent year over year and up four percent over the first half. They have a constant currency reporting basis; so they do not benefit from the fact that the dollar has appreciated against the pound. The backlog is pretty good there. The civil aerospace business accounts for about half of the company’s revenues. Its backlog is currently around seven years, based on our estimates of the value. The backlog gets booked at list prices, but they don’t realize list prices. It’s at almost ten years, based on list prices. But our estimate is closer to seven years, based on the discounts they give the carriers. Joe Quinones: About the website, we don’t have a fancy one. For about nine months, we have been trying to get shareholders access to their accounts. We thought we had it all wrapped up with our transfer agent, but we have not been able to finalize it. But we do intend for shareholders to have access and be able to trade — just as at other funds — before the end of the year. But it’s not going to be fancy. Question: Given the dominance of Berkshire in the portfolios, would you please give your assessment? Jon Brandt: The interesting thing about Berkshire Hathaway is that for most of the time we’ve owned it, it’s had a lot of cash. There’s always been a lot of dry powder since Berkshire acquired Gen Re in 1998. I don’t know if rooting is the verb I want to use, but Berkshire was always very well positioned for a certain amount of distress, blood in the streets, credit being tight, stocks being down, and businesses getting cheaper. Now, Buffett has basically put all his money to work, which is good. We have new sources of earnings from the preferred stock in GE, the preferred stock in Goldman Sachs and the loan to Wrigley, which also has a double digit yield. There is also a recent convertible debenture or, I should say, contingently convertible debenture in Swiss Re. He lent a lot of money to a lot of pretty good corporate credits from Vulcan, which we own, to Tiffany, Sealed Air, and Harley-Davidson. He’s getting 10-12 percent yields on all these instruments. Going into this crisis, there were some exposures to high yield bonds and the credit default swaps that Buffett wrote about last year. I’m not as worried about the S&P puts. I think there’s enough time for corporate America over the next 15 years to increase its earnings to levels and valuations such that Berkshire would not have to pay anything. 5 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City But like many businesses in America, Berkshire’s earnings have been suffering from the crisis and the recession. A number of its businesses have been affected. These include the lending businesses in which Berkshire is an investor such as American Express, Wells Fargo, and some other banks. Furthermore, many of the wholly-owned businesses such as the building products companies, the retailers and apparel businesses, Clayton Homes, Iscar, and NetJets have been severely affected by the economic contraction. As Bob was talking about earlier, it’s very hard these days to know what the new normal is. Shaw earned ... I want to say $594 million pre-tax at the peak. The building products companies — Manville, Acme, Benjamin Moore and MiTek — I think earned almost $900 million at the peak. Whether that $900 million is going to be $500 or $600 million or $400 million in what we now think could be a normal environment going forward is a subject to debate. But the earnings will rebound. How much higher, it’s a little hard to say. But the earnings of these businesses will recover when the economy comes back. Berkshire is a very resilient corporation. The various insurance companies don’t earn the same amount every year because their underwriting margins go up and down, but they are not really economically sensitive. And the utility business is mostly recession resistant, as is McClane. I think about half of Berkshire’s peak earning power came from relatively recession resistant businesses whether they were these wholly-owned businesses or some of the stocks it owns like Wal-Mart, Coke, and Johnson & Johnson. There’s a strong base of earnings that will see Berkshire through almost any kind of economic scenario. At the current valuation, I think you’re paid quite well to hold on to the stock. Question: Do you think the companies in your portfolio have the pricing power to protect their earnings from inflation? Or should you put on hedges to cover you from that inevitability? Bob Goldfarb: I would say that pricing power varies. I think probably the strongest in terms of pricing power would be the rock companies, the quarry companies, namely Martin Marietta and Vulcan, which have continued to raise prices despite very significant declines in demand. You don’t see that combination very often — maybe cigarettes or railroads. But I’d also add that if you go back to Warren Buffett’s article in Fortune about inflation and common stocks, I think he put more emphasis on the cash generating nature of the businesses than on their pricing power. That’s not to dismiss pricing power, but as he pointed out, in an inflationary period what you want to avoid are capital intensive businesses that are forced to reinvest a fair amount of the cash that they throw off back into the business just because of increased inflation in working capital as well as plant and equipment. On that score of cash generation, we’ve had a strong emphasis for a long period of time and that should serve us well in a period of accelerating inflation. Greg Alexander: I would add one thing, which I think most people know. The problem with inflation is not just the direct problem of inflation. Bond investors are not stupid; fixed income investors are not stupid — if the inflation rate goes from two percent to six percent, they’re not going to keep accepting two percent on their Treasury bonds and on their bank deposits. So interest rates will go up. And if interest rates were in the higher single digits, that would be bad for the economy and bad for stocks. So that would be a secondary effect. It would make the economy weaker. I saw a pretty good comment in Jeremy Grantham’s latest missive to the effect that he is worrying that the large deficits spawned by the — referring back to Bob’s initial point in his prepared comments — that the large deficits spawned by the quote “stimulus plan” may have the effect of making the recession less severe at the expense of lengthening it. So I thought that was pretty well said, as it usually is. Question: A professor at Columbia University’s value investing program has suggested that a large part of Wal-Mart’s success has been due to the local competitive advantages it created by expanding geographically in tightly concentric circles. He suggests that Wal-Mart benefited 6 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City mightily from economies of scale especially with regard to distribution by dominating local and regional markets as it grew. I’m wondering if you agree with that and also if you feel that Target and perhaps Fastenal are taking a similar strategy with regard to their growth. David Poppe: I agree with that. Wal-Mart’s competitive advantage, the reason Wal-Mart has the lowest cost, is in large part because it has a substantial advantage in distribution versus almost anyone. Target has not expanded in the same kind of tightly concentric circles because Target requires a little bit higher demographic neighborhood for the store to work and be successful. So it’s not as simple an issue for them to just build them out two miles at a time across the country. So Target’s strategy is a little bit different. Target’s got low cost but they will never be as low as Wal-Mart’s. They will never have as many stores as Wal-Mart because Target has a narrower customer base. On the other hand, however, I would say Target has a pretty desirable store base because they opened a lot of stores in large metro markets that will be difficult for Wal-Mart to penetrate. I think they’ll both be successful, but Wal-Mart certainly is and will continue to be the low cost provider. Bob talked about companies that are well-positioned for inflation — I can’t think of too many companies that are better positioned for hyperinflation than Wal-Mart. Chase Sheridan: On Fastenal I would agree that it benefits from the same dynamic. They own their own logistics system, and they are always optimizing how they manage their logistics and distribution. Density helps them in that regard. They have a branch stock system, which allows them to pull inventory from one branch to another as demand requires. It’s not a big part of their business but it helps them maintain their efficiency. But density sometimes helps in some unexpected ways. I’ve noticed that the closer they get to home base in Winona, they tend to have more experienced managers and higher quality operations. If you look at some of the markets where they have wonderful opportunities to gain market share — for example, the inland empire in Southern California — they’ve had a hard time penetrating them in the past, although it’s improving. If you ask management why, they’ll ascribe it to the quality of the people who were running some of those areas in the past. But there also wasn’t an example of a successful operation nearby for them to draw on. Those people have been replaced and management has been able to push the culture out more from the center. So I think it’s not just the logistics and the distribution — it’s also the culture that comes out from the center and which benefits from density. Question: I have a question about Knight Transportation. Last year I think you said very nice things about the company and its long term prospects. But you reduced your investment a little bit in that company. The stock held its own in 2008; so perhaps you reduced it because of valuation or you’re worried about some long term fundamental problem? Greg Steinmetz: From a stock price perspective, Knight has held its value surprisingly well. The earnings are about two-thirds of what we thought they would be at this time. But because trucking stocks come back before other stocks in a recovery, people want to own these stocks right now. Knight is a great company in a very bad neighborhood. Anyone with a driver’s license can go out and apply for a truck license, start driving a truck, and compete with Knight — the barriers to entry are very low. What makes Knight appealing is that Kevin Knight is just a terrific manager and really knows the trucking business and knows how to make money in it. There’s a nice growth story there because they can still open up a lot of terminals and make money doing so. But you’re right — given its earnings and given the prospects for its earnings, it’s a tough one. It’s a very good example of how supply and demand work. Right now, there are too many trucks on the road and not enough freight to move and that’s played havoc with pricing. Eventually, when we come out of this, Knight should continue doing very well. Question: I have a question about Whole Foods. If consumers are going to be more careful with their spending, why do you continue to hold Whole Foods? 7 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City David Poppe: That’s an extremely good question. I think probably the best thing to say is it’s not our finest hour. It’s a fine company. Again, we’re kind of suckers for these entrepreneurial visionaries. We feel Whole Foods still has good growth prospects. There’s no question in this kind of economy, the prospects are dimmer than we thought a year ago. Maybe a year ago — I haven’t gone back and looked at my comments, I’m sure I would cringe a little bit — but the capital allocation over the last couple of years is just not up to the standard that we normally demand of the companies in the portfolio. So that’s another issue that we have to think about with Whole Foods. They run a very, very good store. I think we made a mistake in that stock purchase. Bob Goldfarb: They had never gone through a recession before with negative comps. I think it truly surprised them when they did this go-round. It took them a while but in recent quarters, they’ve finally begun to attack operating costs both at the store level and at corporate as well. So with the focus on cost control, if their revenues start to come back on a same store basis, they should do pretty well. Question: Would you say there’s any value in luxury retailers at this stage in the business cycle? It seems like you’ve historically stayed away from high-end retailers. David Poppe: We owned Tiffany and did very well with Tiffany. After 9/11, we accumulated a lot of the position, and owned it for about the next five years. Tiffany is near and dear to my heart; I feel like I know it pretty well. It’s a great business in part because it’s not exclusively a luxury retailer; it’s a little more accessible than some of the others. I would say that at this point we’re trying to find companies that are more oriented to needs not wants. I’m not sure that when Neiman and Saks are comping at minus 20 and minus 30 I have a lot of interest in the peer group at all. So we’ve been a little bit averse to luxury retail. Question: How about the apparel brands? Do they represent any value to you? Are there any standout companies that you find are well managed? David Poppe: What I would say is that apparel is extremely dynamic and the guy who’s on top this year may not be on top next year. It’s pretty rare for an apparel brand to last a generation. There are definitely apparel brands out there that do, but it’s hard to handicap. Dumb analogy, but I don’t like to try to handicap pharma pipelines either because it’s really hard to figure out who is going to have the next great drug. It’s hard to handicap who is going to be the next great brand in apparel, or who is going to be hot this year. There are people who can do it but we’re not very good at it. So let me say we’ve decided that we’re not very good at it, as opposed to saying I don’t think there’s any value in apparel brands. It’s a hard thing to analyze and as a dumb guy, I think that TJX is a little bit easier to analyze than an apparel brand in the same way that Walgreen is a little bit easier to analyze than a pharma company. Question: What do you make of the rally that has happened lately? Bob Goldfarb: I think some of the rally was clearly a reaction to the terrible stock market that preceded it. The composition of the rally has been interesting in that it’s been driven by lower quality companies and by more cyclical companies. I think there was a fair component of short covering in it as well. But we’re generally comfortable with the overall level of valuation in the market even after the rally. So on a valuation basis, it was probably logical, though it probably should have been a little broader. Question: Currently the deflationary forces seem to be quite powerful. With unemployment projected to go up, it’s hard to see inflation in wages any time soon. It’s hard to see inflation in commercial real estate any time soon. It’s hard to see inflation in housing any time soon. Yet, you commented how you ultimately expect 8 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City some inflation. If you could give us your thoughts, please, on when you see the inflection point of the deflationary forces ultimately being counteracted by government actions and turning into inflation. Bob Goldfarb: I believe that the economy has begun to stabilize, albeit at significantly lower levels of activity than prevailed a year ago when we met. So I think stabilization is one inflection point that you look for that would suggest that contractionary forces remain significant but are no longer increasing. It wouldn’t surprise me to then see some growth resume. I know that some economists expect that growth might resume as soon as the third quarter. So those would be some indicators or data points that I’d look to and follow to see if they get stronger going forward. That’s probably the best indication of where we’re headed. Also, whether we can sustain an economic recovery without being on the ventilator of government support is also going to be pretty telling. The indicators that I was speaking about would suggest that with the help of a ventilator, there are signs of life. But at some point, we just have to get off the ventilator, and so I’d look to see if we can resume seeing an economy that can show some growth emanating from private demand as government spending and support and the Fed balance sheet hopefully contract. Question: Are you comfortable with the management succession at Brown & Brown? Jon Brandt: To give a little background, Brown & Brown is about 70 years old. Hyatt Brown has been the very successful CEO of Brown & Brown during much of that period. In July of 2009, his son Powell Brown is going to succeed him as CEO. Normally when you have a father passing the CEO’s job to his son you want to be sure that he really is the right person. I feel strongly that Powell is the right choice. I wouldn’t necessarily say he is the only person who could have succeeded Hyatt. Jim Henderson would have been one of the possible choices. He’s been Hyatt’s number two for many years. Jim is in his early sixties. Powell is a year or two younger than me. I think Jim would have done a great job. But I think that the board believed that many better-run companies have the smallest number of CEOs over time, and I wouldn’t argue with that. I suspect Jim is a big fan of Powell’s; so he’s not going anywhere. He’s going to help Powell, and Powell has a great team behind him with Charlie Lydecker, Tom Riley, and Ken Kirk. Cory Walker, the CFO, is also very strong. But Powell would have been my first choice as he was the board’s. Powell is an incredibly honest, incredibly hardworking, very smart guy who gets along well with the other managers. He has a very collegial attitude. There may be a little less power vested in the CEO role going forward, and, since it is a larger company, I think that’s appropriate. He’s a good delegator. I’ve talked with dozens of people at the company; everyone has endorsed the choice of the board. I like Powell. I think he’s the right leader to run the company for the next 20-30 years. Question: What are the one or two most undervalued stocks in your portfolio? I’m going to qualify that — I’m a shareholder, but I’m not above cherry picking. Bob Goldfarb: I remember for years toward the end of December, Rick, Bill and I would try to make some assessment of which of our stocks were the most undervalued and likely to do best in the next 12 months. Our record on forecasting that was pretty poor. So I think I’ll pass on that one. Question: Speaking of succession, with respect to Berkshire Hathaway, what are your thoughts on succession at that company? Jon Brandt: Let’s stipulate that Warren Buffett is irreplaceable and also stipulate that I don’t know who the next CEO is because it hasn’t been announced. If it were to happen tomorrow, it would likely be David Sokol, Ajit Jain, or possibly Tony Nicely. The first two are probably more likely than Tony but I think Warren has more or less said the candidate is internal and they have three people. He hasn’t specifically said those three, but that’s what most people think, and I wouldn’t discount it. 9 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City All three of those candidates have a lot of strengths. David would move into the job most easily since he’s already been the CEO of a publicly traded company. He’s comfortable with regulators; he’s comfortable with doing deals. He’s comfortable managing many employees. He’s in Omaha. He spends a lot of time with Warren. In the case of Ajit, probably more than anyone else at the company, he understands and has taken by osmosis through all the years with Warren — they speak on the phone every night — the culture of Berkshire and the way Warren thinks. He also obviously understands the insurance business. So between Ajit and David, you have two of the major legs of Berkshire — insurance and utilities — covered. I don’t think a co-CEO arrangement is ideal, but if for instance David became the CEO, you could see Ajit having a certain amount of authority over not just National Indemnity Re, but he might have some supervisory responsibility over the rest of the insurance businesses. However, I’m not implying that Berkshire will be any less decentralized than it is today. I don’t know Tony as well. He’s done a fantastic job at Geico. He’s a little older than the other two, so maybe he wouldn’t be as long serving a CEO. But I don’t know, and it’s not beyond the pale that it could be somebody who doesn’t now work for Berkshire because Warren could be there another 15 years. But we know that the board is thinking about this on a frequent and intensive basis. Bill Gates will probably effectively be the lead director. He’s made a commitment to Warren to stay on the board and to help with CEO succession. There are a lot of smart people on that board right now and I think they’re going to choose the best person. But there’s nobody who’s got the IQ, who’s got the personal charisma that Warren has, which is important when dealing with the Berkshire managers and the potential sellers of businesses. Warren said in Omaha that two of the softer qualities that the next CEO will need to have are being able to attract sellers and being able to deal with the different personalities of the various Berkshire managers. But no one can do derivatives, junk bonds, stocks, buy businesses, the way Warren can. None of the possible successors is Warren, but they’re all excellent candidates. Bob Goldfarb: Given Tony’s age and Ajit’s expressed total disinterest in the job, I would bet on David Sokol. Question: What is Sequoia doing to research the new developments in environmental products? Many of us are looking for companies in solar power, wind power, toxic clean-up — all of those issues that are of enormous concern to those of us with grandchildren and great grandchildren. Bob Goldfarb: We’re clearly aware of those trends. We have a summer intern coming and we plan to assign one of those companies to him. One problem is that we invest in companies, not in technologies. There aren’t a lot of companies that are exclusively in those businesses and that are public and have the market capitalizations that would allow us to invest a meaningful amount of money. I also would say that we’re not accustomed to owning businesses where the model at the current time does not yield an economic profit and is totally dependent upon the existence of subsidies that can be given and taken away. There was an article this week that Conoco had an operation in biodiesel and the subsidy was being reduced in half, and that was the end of the business. So we’re aware of these trends. We’d like to participate in them, but there are some barriers to our doing so. Greg Alexander: I would add that just because something is good for us or for society doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s going to be profitable for investors. If you look around, we’re all thankfully wearing clothes, and the apparel business is not very good. We’re sitting on fabric chairs — the textile business is really pretty bad. The table business is not a good business. The glassware business is not a good business. The paper business is not a good business. The water business is not a good business. I mean, just because it’s useful and we like it doesn’t mean that it’s going to make a lot of money. 10 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City Jon Brandt: The classic example of a great growth business is airlines. Whenever they flew the first airplane, you could have predicted the growth in the number of passengers all around the world and the growth of the number of airplanes and you could have said, “I’m going to invest in airlines….” But airlines have been one of the worst businesses ever invented. They have destroyed just about every cent of capital in them. That doesn’t mean we’re going to exclude these environmental businesses. But just because there’s growth doesn’t necessarily mean there will be good returns on capital and a chance for investors to make a lot of money. It could well be that the companies that do profit the most don’t exist right now and that all the ones that exist now will have tombstones in the cemetery. Bob Goldfarb: There are some pretty profitable companies out there already that are doing what you’re talking about. So it’s going to be a huge industry, but it’s not really a single industry. We’ve looked at companies that have divisions that are addressing those problems and those divisions are quite profitable and have good prospects. So you’re singing the right tune. We’ve just got to find the right conductor and the right orchestra and we’ll be on board with you. Question: Following that environmental note, I know where I live, about every fourth car including our garbage trucks are hybrids. So as I see GM and Chrysler shutting down and Toyota all over the place, aren’t there established companies that are already going green that would be interesting to look at? Bob Goldfarb: Absolutely. For instance, we own Paccar, which is a large manufacturer of heavy duty trucks. They’re going green; they’re experimenting with hybrids. Greg Steinmetz: Paccar wrapped up a deal recently with Coca-Cola Enterprises, the big Coke distributor, to sell them a fleet of hybrid trucks. Paccar would like to sell a lot more. Coke has thousands and thousands of trucks; they’ve only bought a couple hundred so far. Paccar is there ready, willing and able to sell more of these trucks. Wal-Mart is very, very much interested in pursuing a green agenda. They’re testing some hybrid trucks. Paccar has a pilot program now with Wal-Mart. The problem is the economics for taking a truck cross-country. You don’t get much benefit out of a hybrid because it only works in stop-start situations. It doesn’t work when you’re rolling down the highway for hundreds of miles. In the Coke example unfortunately, it only works because the government heavily subsidizes hybrid trucks in the medium duty sector. Volkswagen has the lowest emitting vehicles out there, and they are doing it with diesel. If you pencil it out, diesel in many ways is greener than hybrids. VW is working as hard as anyone to come up with electric cars and the company vows to have the best electric fleet before GM and Toyota and everyone else. So yes, we have companies that are going down this route. They’re wrestling with how to make money in it, but they’re trying. Jon Brandt: Greg, leaving aside the last year of the economy and auto sales going down, have the economics of hybrids been a plus or a negative for Toyota? Greg Alexander: I don’t really know. I don’t want to be too optimistic. In our lifetimes, I mean in the coming couple of generations, there’s going to be widespread use of biofuels and wind. Wind is used already, but I don’t want to be too optimistic. These alternative sources of energy are not at the cost level yet where they’re competitive with coal and other fossil fuels. As I said at this meeting last year, the key thing about alternative energy is that the projects are very capital intensive, most of them — wind, solar, biofuels, everything — it’s a lot of capital up front. The main thing that businessmen don’t want is to invest billions of dollars and then not only not make money, but have cash losses every day on top of that. That’s exactly what would have happened if you had spent the billions of dollars necessary for most energy projects because the price of natural gas and the price of coal have plummeted. The natural gas 11 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City price has gone from $13 to $3.50 in the last year. But as I said last year, if we as a society really want to develop these projects and not just talk about them, we have to have some kind of minimum price for traditional energy so that the business people feel comfortable investing the hundreds of billions of dollars that are required to implement any of this stuff. When the natural gas price goes to $3.50, it renders all these green energy installations massively money-losing on an operating basis without subsidies, on top of the initial billions of dollars of capital costs that are also out the window. So it’s just not going to happen until we have a minimum price for traditional sources of energy like oil. In every one of our companies, if there’s money to be saved by doing something — people used to ask about the Internet — if there’s something intelligent that companies can do with the Internet and now with green energy and conservation, and shutting down an inefficient factory ... that actually makes money, believe us, our companies are in the vanguard there. There’s no grass growing under their feet. Bob Goldfarb: It’s a massive trend, and it’s going to get bigger. I would argue that subsidies are warranted economically when you have negative externalities or external costs that a lot of conventional fuels have. So this is a big mega trend, and we’re not going to ignore it at our own expense and at your expense. Question: Given the oversupply of trucks at the moment, what are your thoughts on Paccar and Cummins? Greg Steinmetz: Paccar is just a wonderful company run by wonderful people. The trucking segment — it’s a lot better than the car business because you only have four competitors in the US and they each get a quarter of the market. It’s a similar dynamic in Europe. US truck sales started declining in 2007 after we had an enormous run-up the year before. Frankly, I thought that by the time Europe started to slow down the US Class 8 market would be recovering. Paccar made money last quarter, which is amazing considering that their sales were down 50 percent. It’s a great company, but it’s not making much money now. When trucking comes back and there’s more demand for goods and people start buying trucks again to move those goods, Paccar will get back to a decent level of earnings and we should be able to make some money from here. Question: What effect will a contraction of consumer spending have on your thesis? Greg Steinmetz: Well, it would slow down the recovery. But Paccar is gaining share, particularly in Europe. In the US, they’re coming out with a new engine that they’re making themselves; so they’re not standing still. We already talked about hybrids. It would just take longer to get back to a normal level of earnings. Question: What are your valuation parameters? When do you start getting interested in a stock? When do you start getting uninterested in it? Number two, have you looked at any beaten down corporate bonds or obligations? Number three, I don’t see any energy in the portfolio. Do you have something against that? Bob Goldfarb: Valuation — I can’t give you a single parameter without knowing some other data points. What we would pay for our fast-growing companies with very high returns on capital, and 100 percent free cash flow and lots of growth in front of them is going to be a significantly higher multiple than what we’d pay for a company that had much more modest growth prospects. So it’s hard to give you a single answer on that. In terms of energy, we are interested. When you see the next Sequoia report, which will go out in a couple of weeks, you’ll see an energy stock in there. As far as corporate bonds, you’re spot on. We’ve looked at them, but we’ve had two problems. One has been that the quoted prices are not necessarily the prices that you get when you try to buy the bonds, wouldn’t you say, David? 12 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City David Poppe: It’s a much less liquid and transparent market than the stock market, part one. Part two, we’re in the item business on the stock side, and we’re picky. We only own 25 stocks. On the bond side, we’re the same. So we tend to look at individual issues instead of buying a basket of bonds. When you look at individual issues, a lot of times even if it’s a $500 million or a $1 billion issue, maybe it’s trading at 80 cents — there’s really not that much volume to go get. You’re lucky if you can get $30 million of the bond in the marketplace. When we start looking at Sequoia with $2.5 billion in it, it’s hard to move the needle, so we’ve really struggled with that. We’ve tried. We’ve identified in some cases some of our portfolio companies where we’re positive the bonds are a good value and still struggled. One, to get the quote — the machine gives you a quote, but that’s not actually the price that you pay. And two, even if you can get a price that you agree on, it’s very, very difficult to source a lot of volume. Bob Goldfarb: John Harris, you’ve had a fair amount of experience in the last year in that world. What’s your thought? John Harris: What David said is right. It’s hard when you’re managing as much money as we manage to access those markets because they’re not very liquid. We run a mutual fund and managed accounts that have to stay liquid. So it could be construed as irresponsible of us to park a large portion of our assets in securities that just aren’t that easy to sell and if you need to sell them in a hurry, you can get a very bad price. There are also lots of parts of the debt markets that aren’t accessible to us for other reasons. The bank loan market is a much bigger market today than it was ten years ago. But trading bank loans and owning bank loans create a whole host of legal problems, and all the lawyers that Joe doesn’t like dealing with start calling you regularly if you get involved in instruments like that. So we’ve looked at it. There were excellent opportunities in those markets if you had a vehicle that was perfectly suited to participate. But one interesting thing is that whenever there are good opportunities in the fixed income markets, typically there are also good opportunities in the stock market. So if we just focus on our natural neck of the woods and do our work the way we ought to do it, there will be more than enough opportunity for us. Question: Do you have plans to close the fund? Bob Goldfarb: We don’t have any current plans to close it. Question: In the last six months, did you get the inflows that you were expecting? Joe Quinones: I have the numbers. I don’t know what Bob’s projections were. But since we opened on May 1, 2008, we took in an extra $300 million. Bob Goldfarb: I didn’t have any plans or any expectations, and the money has come in on a measured basis, which we prefer. If it had come in on a less measured basis, we might have been forced to deal with the issue of closing the fund. But as long as money comes in on a measured basis and we’re at the percentage invested that we currently are, we don’t have any thoughts of closure. Question: In the world of private labels and in the consumer discretionary companies, to what extent do you think that foreign market exposures may trump some of the factors that you fear will erode brand franchises in traditional markets? Bob Goldfarb: Not all foreign markets are created equal. I think a number of the European markets have much higher penetration rates in private label than we have in the United States; so you’d have that foreign exposure to offset the foreign exposure of the emerging markets where I suspect private label is less of a factor and demand is growing faster. Question: It’s just a question whether the growth abroad in new markets passionate for brands 13 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City will offset some of the erosion elsewhere. And that’s a hard one to know. Bob Goldfarb: Exactly. Question: The ‘73-’74 experience of Sequoia Fund was followed by such a spectacular period for investor returns. The thing I continue to scratch my head about in this downturn is that the values coming out just don’t seem as compelling as they may have been then. I’m curious about your historical perspective about what you saw then compared to what you see now. Bob Goldfarb: It was awfully painful, but gosh, multiples of two and three times earnings at the end of ‘74 — as you said, we haven’t seen anything comparable this go-round. Given the pain that we experienced in ‘73 and ‘74 — we probably experienced enough pain in the last year or so — I’m not sure how many of you would be willing to pay the price for the opportunity. Question: With all the talk of the government printing money, I’m surprised no one has asked about the printing business you invested in. Arman Kline: De La Rue is the world’s largest private printer of money. Most of the big economies in the world — the United States, China, Russia — print their own money. But the smaller countries in the world don’t. They have to outsource it. They can’t justify spending the money and the capital to do it. There’s a trend now where even some larger countries are outsourcing it. It is a very nice way to play an inflation hedge. It’s not one for one, but currency in circulation grows. The nice thing about it is that De La Rue’s clients tend to be in more emerging markets and exposed to commodities. So if you think that commodities are going to be more expensive going forward and drive inflation, the economies that are exposed to that should circulate more currency. Question: You talked before about how hard it was to predict earnings. Even though private label has made incredible inroads on a lot of consumer goods, I’m wondering why food and beverage stocks have been conspicuously absent among your holdings, particularly now that so many of them are selling between 10 and 12 times earnings. Bob Goldfarb: You’re spot on. The rally that we were talking about earlier left these stocks behind. Now we have very, very strong companies where you have a pretty good sense of what normal is, selling at very reasonable multiples. It is a pretty good area to be prospecting in. So, it’s certainly possible. But there is nothing on the front burner. Question: If this isn’t too broad a question, can you discuss what you were personally going through and what was going through your mind work-wise through the worst days of the last year or 2009 as we hit the lows. Did you second guess value investing? Did you second guess your own competence? Did you think maybe things didn’t work? David Poppe: I wish we weren’t on the 47th floor. I don’t think that we second guessed the discipline. I guess I shouldn’t speak collectively. I think there’s been a lot of kicking yourself because it was pretty obvious that some of this would happen. We failed to see the magnitude. Many people saw that there would be a correction and housing would turn down and we might build a million houses for a while instead of two million houses. But I don’t think people saw that we might build 400,000 houses or that large percentages of all the homes in Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Southern California would be in foreclosure. I don’t think we saw the magnitude of it; so when it hits you it’s frustrating because we just underestimated how severe it would be. I think Bob in particular was anxious about what could happen. Yet when it did happen, we weren’t as well aligned as I think we could have been. Bob Goldfarb: I was just shocked by the magnitude of the decline in demand that affected much of American industry in the fourth quarter of 2008 and the first quarter of 2009. And as indicated by ITW’s results, which I mentioned in my prepared 14 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City remarks, it’s continuing. Chase, a year ago, were Fastenal’s daily sales up about 15 percent? Chase Sheridan: They were up 16% in May 2008. December was the first month in Fastenal’s 42-year history when they did not have a positive year over year comparison for daily sales. That has turned into, in April, a 25 percent year over year daily sales decline. So it went from positive 12 in October to negative 25 in April. It was very severe and very quick. Bob Goldfarb: We were just astonished. If you had asked us a year ago at this time what was the likelihood that Fastenal would see a period where sales would be down 25 percent, Chase, what odds would you have given? Chase Sheridan: I couldn’t have imagined it. The same thing happened with the rock companies. It’s much worse than what I considered the worst case scenario in volumes. I never would have guessed that rock volumes could drop 40 percent in this cycle. Rock volumes for Martin Marietta in the first quarter were down 39 percent versus their peak first quarter, which was in 2006. Yet, amazingly, prices were up 25 percent over that period, which is the real reason we own those companies, resilience in pricing. But it’s been astonishing. David Poppe: This gets at the futility of modeling. We get questions all the time about discounted cash flows and things like that. Chase ran all these great models, and I’m standing over his shoulder, “What would happen if the volumes went down three percent? What would happen if they went down five percent?” We never even dreamed that we would have minus 40 percent. We spent so much time on this. I think minus five or minus 10 was our doomsday scenario. So we were thinking about it but we weren’t thinking about the magnitude that turned out to be reality. Question: As we think about the fund in the years going forward, and think about your comments in the beginning, Bob, how should we think about returns in the fund going forward relative to where they’ve been in, say, the last ten years? Bob Goldfarb: Does anybody have the ten-year returns? David Poppe: The ten year returns have been quite humbling. If we use the end of ‘08, the ten years ended December 31 ‘08, Sequoia was up 2.0 percent compounded annually and the market was down something like 1.4 percent. So it’s a 3.4 point annual spread, which is not bad over ten years. But these are horrible absolute numbers — 2.0 percent versus minus 1.4 percent. Looking forward ten years, the one good thing is you don’t have a very tough comparison to the last ten years. I think we can be pretty humble and say, “Hmmm, not sure we’re going to generate spectacular returns, but we ought to do better than the last ten years.” Question: The cash position of Sequoia in round numbers — how much does the fund have? And collectively, you’ve made some very favorable comments about the companies that you own, their management, their prospects and so on. Given their depressed prices, are you investing more in the ones that you already own? Bob Goldfarb: Yes, we did add to one position in the first quarter. Were there others, David? David Poppe: We added to a couple positions in the first quarter. But we didn’t do a lot. Overall we’ve probably been net sellers. There’s probably a slightly higher cash position today than there was at the end of the year. Bob Goldfarb: We were buyers earlier in the year, and we turned modest net sellers into the rally that we discussed earlier. But we’ve been about 80 percent invested. I don’t think we’ve varied within more than 3 percent of that number. So there hasn’t been a great deal of variance in it. The cash percentage has been pretty uniform. Question: How do you determine when you’re going to sell a stock? Do you have specific guidelines that you follow? 15 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City Bob Goldfarb: We don’t have any specific guidelines that are written down or any rules in that sense. But valuations, especially in the last year, have been fluctuating a lot. And our ideas of normalized earning power are also changing quite a bit. So when those two forces are at work, you’re going to be thinking about doing more selling, as we have been, than you would usually. But there’s no single strategy. We assess the valuation of each stock one stock at a time. The question is what is the normalized earning power of this company, what’s the likely growth rate and then compare it with the valuation. Or in some cases, when we’re seeing the trends that Chase was talking about where you have declines both in the top line and bottom line that you thought were just impossible, you’re constantly rethinking valuations. But it’s on an item basis. Question: I think maybe 10 years ago at this meeting Mr. Ruane made the comment that the cash had been an anchor on performance. Then it appeared we saw a much smaller cash position. Do you think going forward that you have a sense of where you want cash to be? Bob Goldfarb: I’ve referred to the ‘80s as the lost decade because our stocks performed magnificently but our overall performance matched that of the S&P because of the drag of the cash. I think we averaged something like 40 percent in cash during that decade. One of the reasons it was a lost decade is that we kept waiting for the valuations, the single digit multiples that we saw in the ‘70s for outstanding companies, to return, and it wasn’t going to happen except under conditions of very high interest rates. But we entered 2008, 97 percent invested. And that was one of the reasons that we decided to open the fund; at that time we weren’t contemplating selling any of our stocks. We didn’t want to be forced to sell stocks merely to generate liquidity. As the year developed not too long thereafter, we decided that we were over-exposed to consumer discretionary stocks and that we would make an effort to reduce that exposure. As we’ve said in our letters, that decision, together with the decision to sell the remaining Progressive, which was having problems on the investment side, in tandem with the inflows that were coming in after we reopened, caused the cash to increase toward the 20 percent level. But our ideal is to be almost fully invested. Question: So that would be the ideal situation going forward? Bob Goldfarb: Yes, we’d love to find enough stocks and own enough positions in large enough quantities so that we could be fully invested. Greg Alexander: We’re not targeting a certain amount of cash. If you let us determine the stock prices, we could be invested by this afternoon. Bob Goldfarb: I would also say we’re constrained in adding to the larger positions in Sequoia because of an IRS rule regarding concentration. No more than 50 percent of the fund can be invested in positions that account for 5 percent or more of the fund except by virtue of appreciation. Because of that restriction we just don’t have the latitude to add to most to our larger holdings. Question: We’re in the midst now of a somewhat cyclical recovery. But on a secular basis, unemployment is going to be higher going forward. And with jobs leaving the United States, with the manufacturing base eroding, there will be fewer and fewer industries which employ a lot of people, and there will be fewer and fewer jobs. In other words, when an automobile factory closes, it’s thousands of people who lose their jobs. When a service company closes, it’s much fewer people. And as a result, there will be less and less demand for goods. Are you taking into account this possibility, of demand being much, much lower over time? Bob Goldfarb: Automobile plants have to close because there’s excess capacity and not just with regard to 16 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City current demand but with regard to what I’d consider normalized demand. But I think the overall contraction in demand has largely peaked. It’s going to vary by sector and by company. There are some late cycle companies that probably haven’t seen bottom. I think aggregate demand has stabilized at very low levels and at some point should begin to grow. So I would not bet on a contraction in demand from these levels. If that’s your thesis, you probably shouldn’t be long stocks or long Sequoia. Greg Alexander: When we look at manufacturing companies, the first thing we always ask ourselves is could this be made cheaper somewhere else. So on that side we always do think about it. But we don’t really think about the macro issues that much overall. Bob Goldfarb: It’s been a number of years since we established the position in Fastenal. We were concerned at that time about the decline in the manufacturing base and the extent to which their customer base would erode. I think partially because of the decline in the dollar many manufacturing companies that exported goods fared pretty well. But I think a lot of the manufacturing base that was noncompetitive has already gone. A lot of the high value-added manufacturing will remain in the United States and prosper. Longer term, I would be concerned about the prospect of China developing the capability to become competitive in that space. The one big area of manufacturing where cost inputs are just not competitive now is the domestic automobile industry. Clearly, the government is trying to wrestle with that at the present time. But we own some very strong manufacturing companies such as Paccar. Paccar is going through a cyclical decline right now but they’re going to be around and they’ll prosper. Question: I guess if you look at the last five years, who would have thought that the US furniture industry would go from being a very viable and well respected industry to nothing — that it would all go to China. Bob Goldfarb: It happened very fast, but if you look at the heart of our manufacturing base, excluding Detroit and Detroit’s suppliers — there are pretty darn strong companies with competitive advantages. Mohawk would be another example of a strong manufacturer. One of its advantages is the cost of transport that insulates it from foreign competition. We own Fastenal. Its customer base is industrial America. We do think about these issues but we think our companies will do just fine over time. Question: Could you please comment on Ritchie Brothers? Arman Kline: Ritchie Brothers is the world’s largest auctioneer of industrial equipment, trucks, and trucking equipment. We’re recent shareholders in the business. This is a good example of a company that we followed for a long time, but had a problem with the valuation. In the pullback we were able to initiate a position. Used industrial equipment is about a $100 billion global industry. Ritchie Brothers has two to three percent of it. The great majority is still done through brokers and dealers. Historically, the problem with brokers and dealers has been that they can only operate on a regional basis. They haven’t been able to attract global prices and global customers. The Ritchie model allows you to sell equipment and source equipment globally. They’ve proven that they can get better pricing in their auctions because of that ability. We’re very happy shareholders of the business. Question: I noticed in your portfolio that you don’t really have any health care companies or pharmaceutical companies. Have you looked at or thought about something like Johnson & Johnson, a well diversified health care company, or something in pharmaceuticals, Merck or Glaxo or any of the other major companies? Bob Goldfarb: When you said diversified, that’s a key factor. J&J clearly does have that benefit. We owned J&J in the early ‘90s and its nature changed somewhat during that period. What 17 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City attracted us to J&J was that it had a large base of pharmaceuticals that were pretty darn nichey and that dominated niches where there wasn’t much competition. They might have $100 million in revenues; so they weren’t blockbusters. But as we owned the stock, several of these drugs became blockbusters and made the company’s earnings, particularly its earnings growth, dependent on a few drugs. So we became less comfortable even with J&J and we sold it. I think you have this problem with the Mercks of the world even more — there’s very large dependence upon a few blockbusters subject to the risk of more efficacious drugs being developed by the competition. It’s not a model that appeals to us. As I think I have mentioned before, Warren Buffett said a couple times in the past that he wished he had bought a basket of these companies to offset this concentration risk. But by and large, the basket of pharmaceutical companies has not worked for a long time. That doesn’t mean that it won’t work going forward. But I’ve really been surprised by how difficult it has been for the small-molecule pharmaceutical companies to develop successful new drugs and just how many of the new drugs that have been blockbusters have come out of biotech. Now you see conventional pharma trying to jump on that wagon and buying some biotech. Question: Two quick questions. Has the resolution of the Chrysler situation, as proposed, given you any cause for concern about a fundamental shift in the government’s attitude towards private capital, private enterprise? The second question is about Berkshire — obviously the stock portfolio has been an important component of growth and value over the years. I know it’s considered sacrilege to suggest this, but there is presumably a fairly reasonable argument that can be made that the investment portfolio has not — excluding the issues of the market of course — done particularly well in the last decade. Coca-Cola’s stock price has not moved in 12-13 years I believe — and the earnings haven’t exactly grown stupendously. Conoco has been acknowledged publicly by Buffett as a mistake. Burlington Northern was bought right into the jaws of the recession. So I wondered if you have concerns about that, both the historical performance and also perhaps going forward. Bob Goldfarb: I would say that part of the answer to your question was made by the gentleman who was talking about how reasonable current valuations in the food and beverage area are. Jonny, what was the multiple on Coca-Cola ten years ago? Jon Brandt: About 40 maybe. Bob Goldfarb: Coke has come from 40 and what is it now, about 13? Jon Brandt: Thirteen. Bob Goldfarb: Yes, so the valuation was just excessive ten years ago. Coke’s stock will do much, much better in the next ten years than it has in the last. So I’d look forward rather than backward in terms of assessing the portfolio companies of Berkshire. With regard to Chrysler, I don’t think there’s anything that affects us directly. First of all, personally, I don’t believe that Chrysler should have been kept in business. It should have been allowed to fail. As we’ve said, there’s just way too much capacity in the US automobile industry, and the market is the best mechanism for rationalizing capacity. I think the market forces should have been allowed to work. So I think it was a mistake for the government not to let the market forces work and let Chrysler go through a bankruptcy without government aid. Jon Brandt: Bob, I think the question was also about the settlement where the government was criticizing the bondholders. Bob Goldfarb: The bondholders should have had their day in court and should have had their contractual rights honored. I don’t think their contractual rights should have been taken from them. I’ve heard the counterargument that they would have gotten less in a settlement than the government was offering them. But clearly they believed otherwise. And the best way of resolving those disparate views is to have a bankruptcy proceeding. The courts should be 18 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City adjudicating those contractual rights, not the executive branch of the government. Question: At the Berkshire meeting — David Sokol and Charlie Munger talked a great deal about BYD Company — do you have anything to add on that or any insight? Jon Brandt: This is a company that makes batteries for laptops, cell phones, and electric cars. It was apparently Charlie’s idea to invest in it, and I give him credit for finding it. What was the market cap when Warren invested, Stephan? Stephan van der Mersch: Two billion. Jon Brandt: Berkshire will own 10 percent of the company. They haven’t put the money in yet. The Chinese government has to approve it. It’s going to be owned by MidAmerican which Berkshire owns 89.5 percent of. So maybe at market now it’s $400-$500 million. Even if it’s very successful for Berkshire — I hope that it will be and I know that Warren is very enthusiastic about it and certainly Charlie and David too — it’s not one of their larger investments. But they’re enthusiastic about it, and Charlie just loves the CEO. I met the CEO at the meeting out in Omaha. I had a chance to try to talk to him but he doesn’t speak English and I’m not very good in technology or Chinese. So it wasn’t much of a conversation Question: How do you go about generating ideas? Bob Goldfarb: We’re very unstructured. There’s no investment committee. The ideas are almost all internally generated. David? David Poppe: Our analysts travel a lot and are expected to visit a lot of companies over the course of a year. We attend a lot of conferences, trade shows. I like to think that we’re kind of always trolling for ideas. A lot of the ideas end up bubbling up from the analysts. While we’re all generalists, over time the analysts develop some expertise in various industries and have some confidence when they come forward: “I’ve been looking at XYZ and I see another company in that field that seems terrific, maybe we should take a look at it.” Bob and I are typically going to say, “Go ahead, go for it and let’s see what we find out.” We kick tires very hard. Each idea, an individual idea that we’re vetting for Sequoia could take a week or two to decide, no, it’s not for us, to several months before we probably decide yes, this could be for us. The process is going to involve certainly meeting the management but also learning as much as we can about an industry and a company. We talk to the competitors, to the dealers, distributors, franchisees if that’s the kind of business it is — all sorts of third parties who can tell us what they know about an industry and a company. Then Bob and the analysts too are careful, careful readers of the financial statements. You can tell a lot about the ethics of a group of people by what they put in the proxy and what they don’t. Arman talked about Ritchie Brothers earlier — it’s not uncommon for us to follow a company for five years and really, really be a pest before we finally get a valuation that we like. Then we’re hopefully going to be able to own it for some period of time. So it’s a pretty rigorous process. It’s an independent study work environment here in terms of the analysts having a lot of freedom to pursue things. It’s pretty hard to get something into Sequoia — we reject many, many more than go in. I would say — before someone asked about the sell discipline — that for our kind of investing, the buy discipline tends to be greater than the sell discipline. On the sell discipline, you’ve already decided that you like it and you might even have decided that you love it. Then it becomes very hard to ... divorce is really hard. Divorce is really hard. So that gives you the flavor of it. We tend to like what we own because we’ve spent a lot of time figuring out that’s what we want to own. Then we need to have that same discipline on the sell side as well. Question: Speaking of the sell discipline, you sold some of Wal-Mart last spring at a loss. I have a problem understanding that since so many people have said such good things about Wal-Mart. 19 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City Bob Goldfarb: What price did we sell that at, David? David Poppe: I think we sold Wal-Mart at $50. Bob Goldfarb: Yes, we sold it at $50 and you can buy it a little cheaper than that right now. So there hasn’t been any opportunity cost to date. David Poppe: It went up from $50 after we sold it. I think $57 or $58 was the high last year. We got frustrated with Wal-Mart. The core duty of a retailer is to run a clean store where it’s easy to do your transactions. For a long time, WalMart’s store standards were really deteriorating. That was really it. Management finally got on top of things. The stores today look much, much better than they’ve looked in years. So you could argue that we missed that. But I would also say that on the price side, as Bob said, there was no loss there by having sold the stock. You could buy it back today for less than we sold it for a year ago. Bob Goldfarb: It’s comparable to the food and beverage companies that the gentleman was asking about before. It appears to have a very reasonable valuation and you can have a pretty good idea of what its normalized earning power is. So it wasn’t a great sale but so far it hasn’t cost us anything and we could replace it. Question: Due to their impact on consumer spending, as well as building materials, I was wondering if you could touch on housing prices and when you project them to bottom out or do you think they already have? Greg Alexander: We don’t have any insight on that. Just as a casual observation, it seems like the prices bottom out when there is a large number of foreclosures. So if you look at the states where prices are down, by almost as much as half, which are to wit Florida, Arizona, Las Vegas, parts of inland California — it’s just like the real estate equivalent of the stock market last November when there were forced liquidations. A foreclosure is a forced liquidation. Here in New York prices are down but it’s not so much because the goat is going through the python of foreclosures. But as a general statement, when foreclosures hit, that seems like it’s usually the bottom. David Poppe: I thought Warren’s comments at the meeting were probably smarter than anything we could say. If you weren’t there, what he said is the US is going to form something like 1.1 or 1.2 million households per year going forward, 70 or 80 percent of those people probably are going to be homeowners, 70 percent maybe. As long as you’re building 400,000 homes per year, you’re working off excess supply. At some point in the not too distant future, prices will hit equilibrium. Whether that is a year or two years or three years, I don’t think we have any great insight. But the math is what it is. We’re far under-building what the ultimate supply needs are going to be. We far overbuilt for a few years prior; so it will take a while to work it off. Question: A couple years? Jon Brandt: It will take longer in Florida than other markets. In some markets it will not take as long. David Poppe: I would agree with Buffett — I’m not sure I see a ten year Japanese-style real estate depression, at least in homes. Unlike in that country, our population is still growing. Question: I think this is kind of a lazy question because I should know more facts than I do. But this morning in the Washington Post I read a column by Mr. Pearlstein taking exception to Mr. Buffett’s comment that he wouldn’t buy a newspaper at any price — any newspaper at any price. Bob Goldfarb: Jake or Girish, do you have any comments? Jake Hennemuth: I think it’s a good question, it’s a troubled industry. There are traditionally two revenue sources for newspapers. There’s circulation revenue and there’s advertising 20 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City revenue. Classifieds have long been a primary source of the later. But many classified ads have gone to the Internet, where they’re now much cheaper, more easily searchable and run for a longer period of time. So it’s hard to make an argument that you don’t get a better bang for your buck by putting your job ad or your car ad on the Internet. The news itself is also online where it’s free in most cases. Younger populations tend to read that form more often than hard copy. So you’ve got a situation of steadily falling circulation, which make newspapers less interesting as an ad platform, and alternative sources for news. It’s a double-whammy. So I can see why Buffett makes a comment like, “I wouldn’t buy it at any price.” It’s absolutely headed downhill. And on top of that, it might be worth less than zero because there are severance costs and other expenses to pay meanwhile. David Poppe: I worked at the Miami Herald in the 1990s and I’m not going to get the numbers exactly right but I’m going to be close. When I was there — this is not that much longer than a decade ago — I think when my wife started maybe in the late ‘80s, there were 400-450 people in the newsroom. It was a pretty darned good newspaper. When I was there, say in the mid ‘90s, there were about 375 people in the newsroom. We worked pretty hard to put out a newspaper every day. I think there are probably 175-200 people in the newsroom today. That product is done. It’s not a good product. It can’t be a good product with 175 people working on it. If you de-content the product to a certain point, then it’s not really a product anyone needs to buy anymore. I’m not blaming them for doing it because the economics — Jake is talking about the vicious circle downward — but the vicious circle has become a swirl. I don’t see how you turn it around because I don’t see how you run a daily newspaper seven days with a Sunday paper that people want to pick up and pay $3-$4 for, with 175 people in the newsroom when there used to be 450. Bob Goldfarb: I was looking at the Washington Post numbers a couple weeks ago. You couldn’t have a better management than the Post has both at the corporate level with Don Graham and with Katharine Weymouth running the paper. The content is great; they have a lot of unique content. But people have been unwilling to pay for it on the Internet. I think there are a few exceptions. One would be the Wall Street Journal. People have been willing to pay somewhat for Journal content on the Internet. I know the Times tried an experiment with some of the op-ed pieces and tried to charge for content, but there was no traction, no receptivity. So that’s the key. They’re trying to charge for content with Kindle, and in different ways, but unless people are willing to pay for content it’s very, very hard. Question: As a follow-up to this, I understand rationally why Warren has held on to the Washington Post and he’s held on to Buffalo News but he’s had Gannett in his portfolio for a very long time. Considering the comments that he’s made about the newspaper industry, I find that really curious. Bob Goldfarb: I think he probably ... he’d be the first one to acknowledge that he missed it, that he should have sold it. Question: But he still has it. I mean, if he thinks the business is dead, why doesn’t he sell Gannett? Bob Goldfarb: I have to assume that he’s reassessing it and revaluing it at its present price. Greg Alexander: It’s easy to look now and say, “Why didn’t XYZ.” I mean, look in your own heart for most of these things. He knew the industry and he’s been saying for many years that the industry was going to diminish. We have no Gannett; so we have no stake in it. But Gannett doesn’t have an outrageous amount of debt. I am guessing, but I think most rational observers would have thought that the next ten years of cash flow as the business slowly disappeared would be enough to take care of the debt and probably build up some cash. But it just so happens that because of this first financial panic in 80 years in the United States, that the next ten years all disappeared in six months. So in retrospect you say, “Gee, why didn’t he sell it?” 21 Ruane, Cunniff & Goldfarb Investor Day, May 15, 2009 — St. Regis Hotel, New York City Jon Brandt: Greg, it’s not exclusively a newspaper company, correct? Bob Goldfarb: It also owns some television stations. Greg Alexander: I know, but the newspaper earnings, the tail could have paid off. Jon Brandt: That’s true. I think he’s holding on to the Buffalo News because he made a commitment to not sell it or close it unless the losses were too much to bear. It may reach that point eventually with the Buffalo News. Question: As a follow-up to the newspaper industry, have you considered buying Google? What is the valuation? Chase Sheridan: I haven’t looked at it that recently so my numbers will be stale. But Google has, as you all know, an amazing franchise. So I did take a look at it. One of the things that prevented us at the end from buying Google was the capital allocation that we saw both through acquisitions and internally. They bought DoubleClick, and they paid $3.2-$3.3 billion for DoubleClick. I think that most observers would say that was a very rich price. Then internally, their CAPEX numbers are very, very high. They had a policy of pursuing every project that came down the pike. So that caused a couple of problems. First of all, it blows through cash. Their margins are incredibly high and it really doesn’t take much for Google to keep its business at a steady level but to grow it 20 percent a year does not require that much capital investment either — far, far less than what you see being spent. When you pursue all these projects that don’t necessarily have a viable business model, what you will eventually get are very smart, very motivated people who are very frustrated. I think it’s caused some dissent within the ranks of Google in the past and that may be happening now because they’ve got brilliant engineers working on projects that may never turn into businesses. It was the capital allocation at the end of the day that prevented us from really pounding the table on Google. It’s an excellent, excellent business model. I don’t have a long career in this compared to Bob and some of the other folks on the dais, but it’s one of the best businesses I’ve ever seen. Bob Goldfarb: We have time for one more question because we have to vacate the room by one. Question: Can you talk about Cummins, including its exposure to Chrysler? Greg Steinmetz: Cummins does have exposure to Chrysler. They make diesel engines for the big Dodge Ram trucks, and they were hoping to make a lot more of those because they had won the bids to get on even more platforms. Last week they announced that they were closing the factory that was making these engines. It’s just been a disaster for them. I think it was about five percent of their sales at the peak, and it was going to be a lot more. Cummins is in all sorts of areas; so Chrysler alone is not going to cause that much trouble for them. Their other areas though are also under siege. I mentioned before that Paccar’s sales are way down. Cummins makes half of the heavy duty truck engines in this country. So their domestic sales are down. Their China strategy isn’t quite playing out as planned. We talked about the ability to make money on green investments — Cummins has the cleanest engines out there. In 2010, they are going to be even cleaner. China has said that they’re going to try to clean up their environment by mandating engines that are as clean as what they are in the US and Europe. The trouble is they’re not enforcing it. So here is Cummins having built all these factories over there to make clean engines and then the government is not enforcing it. The Chinese truck makers are buying engines that are just as dirty as they ever were. So there are a lot of headwinds facing Cummins right now. Bob Goldfarb: We’re going to have to wrap up, since we are approaching one o’clock. I want to thank you all for attending and I want to thank you for your questions. We look forward to seeing you next year. 22

August 31, 2009

Meet Tim McElvaine, One of Canada's Top Investors

Tim McElvaine, One of Canada's Top Value Investors

Market SuperStarS SecretS of canada’S top Stock pickerS Stock dealing in nightmares, not dreams tiM Mcelvaine Stock Market Superstars | 1 Dealing in Nightmares, Not Dreams “I make Homer Simpson look active because there’s not that much excitement happening in my office.” As the ex-chief investment officer for Peter Cundill’s company, Tim McElvaine is all about deep value investing. If you wondered what the definition of deep value investing is, it is buying the equity of companies that are beaten up, unwanted, and unloved. Even hearing their name will sometimes make you cringe. As Tim says, “We deal in nightmares, not dreams.” So why would you buy nightmares, you say? Well, because if you pick the right ones, you get a great bargain on the purchase price, and this is how Tim says he makes his money. With a 20 percent annualized return (16 percent net to investors) for the last ten years until December 31, 2007, “nightmares” have turned into dreamy performance for Tim’s investors. As a value investor who is strict in his style, he will build up the cash when he can’t find bargains. Surprisingly, he has been able to achieve these returns while holding a lot of cash over the years. In 1997, the average cash position in the fund was 59 percent, and at various times over the last decade, the fund has averaged 20 percent-plus in cash. What even makes the performance more remarkable is that there are hardly any resource stocks that have accounted for the performance. Chances are, you won’t have heard of many of the com- Tim McElvaine panies that Tim has owned over the years. Buying stocks with a margin of safety can also help to reduce your downside and can result in amazing consistency. Tim is one of only a couple of managers I can think of who have not had a down year in the last ten years. Other than a drop during 2002, and the recent drop at the beginning of 2008, the chart for the McElvaine Investment Trust has generally been a nice upward sloping line over the last ten years with very few bumps along the way. Even in 2007, in which many “value managers” were beaten up, he squeezed in a positive return by the tightest of margins. The style has been pretty easy on the nerves over the years, and it proves repeatedly that to make a lot of money over time, you just need to avoid the big drops during the bad times. Known for his witty and self-deprecating humour, it is always fun to chat with Tim. Putting yourself down in a fun way I think actually helps people to stay humble, which is one of the traits of the most successful investors. I actually had to convince him that he should be included in this book. When I asked him why he developed a value philosophy, he said, “I am not as bright as growth managers, so it was logical for me to do this.” When asked why he tends to hold stocks for so long, he says, “Because it takes so long for them to go up,” referring to the fact that many value managers get into stocks a bit early. I first met Tim in 2006 after doing some research on value managers. The McElvaine Investment Trust had one of the best and most consistent return profiles going, and upon further examination, I found the results and process to be very repeatable. I called his office in Vancouver and arranged a meeting to sit down and talk about his philosophy. We had to book a meeting a couple of weeks out because Tim is only in Vancouver every so often, living full time in the beautiful city of Victoria, B.C. What I love about many of the Stock Market Superstars profiled in this book is that most have small unassuming offices. Tim is no exception. With only a few people working at the firm, including Kim and Di, who Tim constantly praises in his updates, the office in downtown Vancouver is very small. We chatted the first time in Tim’s office, which was about as plain as could be, with simply a laptop on his desk. I interviewed him a second time in his room at the Four Seasons Vancouver in May 2008 just after one of the more brutal drubbings for value stocks in years. 2 | Tim McElvaine Bob: You were the CIO at Cundill. How did that come about? Stock Market Superstars | 3 Tim: At the time, I was working in Bermuda for the Bank of Butterfield taking my CFA. I wanted to get more involved in the investment business, and I went through a list of people who I view as mentors. John Templeton was on the list, Peter Cundill was on the list, and someone from Trimark, what was his name? Robert Krembil? Krembil was on the list. This was in 1989, 1990, which was not a great time for stocks and not a great time for hiring. Out of them, Peter showed the most interest, so I hounded him. He had to either change his fax number or hire me. Thankfully, he hired me, so I moved to Vancouver and started working with him, and that would have been in March of ‘91. Nothing like persistence, then? Nothing. Yeah, persistence. Companies get lots of resumes, but people who send resumes who obviously know a little bit about what you do I think is so important. So when people say they’re looking for a job these days, if they can tailor the package they’re sending to the person they’re sending it to, it goes a long way. Mark Holowesko used to run the Templeton Growth Fund. He called Templeton at 27 years old, or 25, and said, “I want to work for you,” and Templeton said, “Go get your CFA and then talk to me.” He went back a few years later with his CFA—three years later or whenever he finished it—Templeton said, “Sure.” I think he gave Mark the Templeton Growth Fund at 27 years old, right? The people at Cundill today are fairly young when you look at them. Is that something that Peter did, is he’ll bring somebody young in with not a lot of experience and say, “I’ll teach you the value way”? Or did you have a lot of experience before you went and saw Peter? No, but Pete’s a value investor. They’re cheap that way. Right, right. So they run their businesses that way too. No, I didn’t. What I did do is send Peter a lot of very specific ideas, so I think he had an idea of how I thought. Then when I went to start to work with him, it was kind of just working, how I always approached stuff and how he approached stuff. How long did you work for him before you were a CIO? It was pretty quick, wasn’t it? The advantage was there were only two of us, so [laughs] I didn’t have to climb to the top of a ladder. We had fifteen people in the firm, but there were only two on the investment side. 4 | Tim McElvaine How much money did the firm manage? Probably about $300 million, give or take a little bit, and going down because it was 1991, so things weren’t going too well. My accountant who’s a CA told me this. He said, “What do accountants use for birth control?” I said, “What?” He said, “Their personalities.” [Laughs] That came from my accountant. That wasn’t me. Obviously, you said you sent Peter some ideas. You were a value guy before you met Peter Cundill. How did you evolve into that, rather than a growth investor? Well, partially given that I was a CA, I obviously had low self-esteem, You have an accounting degree and a CFA. A lot of people have CFAs and a lot of people don’t have either one and do fine. So which one do you think was better, as far as helping you with what you do? I didn’t have the personality to do your job, so that meant I became a CA. It’s a language thing. A CA is like learning French—there’s nothing magical there, but it makes you quite comfortable with the lingo and mostly with the BS that people toss out. Then it also makes you understand how divorced accounting sometimes is from the reality of the situation. So you’re not in awe of it; you say, “Well, that’s crap.” What they’re doing for accounting is whatever the CAs or CPAs want, but that’s not what’s happening in the economics of the business. The CFA—and God bless the CFA because as long as they keep that program, there won’t be very many people doing my thing in the business. So the CFA was interesting to me because it’s where I wanted to go, but there’s an awful lot of stuff in it that doesn’t apply to what you or I would do on a day-to-day basis. and when you have low self-esteem, you work towards value stocks. If I really thought I was that smart, maybe I would have been a growth guy. That’s kind of what got me towards it. In the ‘80s, I had read a lot of stuff about Buffett and Ben Graham and John Templeton. I had been to a number of John Templeton AGMs in Toronto in the early ‘80s, so it felt like a better fit to how I thought about the world. Stock Market Superstars | 5 Do you remember the first stock business experience or when you became interested in the stock market, or when you started buying stocks? My first experience—other than the lemonade-stand-on-the-side-of-theroad-type stuff? My first experience in business was probably when I was about 12. We lived on a farm. I decided, with certainly my parents’ “encouragement” so to speak, to produce eggs and sell them to the neighbours. I ended up getting twenty chickens or something like that. We built a coop. My dad put up the capital cost and lent me the money to build a chicken coop and the wiring to buy the chickens. Then my theory was the chickens would lay the eggs, and I’d sell the eggs to the neighbours, and we’d pay my dad and then make some money for myself, and this would be my enterprise. So I had visions of being the chicken king of Kingston, Ontario. Well, you know, agriculture is a tough business. First of all, the chickens’ eggs kept breaking, so I had to change their feed. Then the foxes came by and ate the odd chicken, which doesn’t do very good for production. Then winter came and the eggs would freeze before I came home. Finally, for the poor egg that made it from the chicken into my fridge, sometimes my mom took them without telling me. I quickly moved into bankruptcy in my chicken business. We ended up selling them to the farmer across the road, and he slaughtered them. After that, I decided I didn’t want to do anything in agriculture, and picking stocks seemed a heck of a lot easier than taking care of chickens, so I kind of worked towards that. You had seen a business go through a rough time, so you’re familiar with that. As well as the liquidation value; I was quite familiar with it. You were a value trap, weren’t you? Yeah. Yeah. You wouldn’t buy your business even at a cheap price? No, it was not a good business, but I think like my early stocks, like everyone else, I was kind of lurching around trying to figure out how to do this. I looked at technical analysis. I tried to think about growth stuff. I think I had some Wardair and some Pop Shoppes International at one stage, and I think Wardair made some money and Pop Shoppes went to zero. Sometime around that area I kind of bumped into Buffett and then Ben Graham and I thought, “Okay, well, that makes sense. Here’s more of a framework that makes sense to me.” Your personality has a lot to do with how you invest money a lot of times. Some of these growth guys that are out there, they’re cocky. You could look at somebody and say, “That’s going to be a growth investor.” Somebody else can say, “That’s going to be a value investor,” because value investors seem to be more conservative in their personal lives. They’re softer spoken. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so, meaning if you want to party, find a growth guy. I think that’s what you’re saying. Yeah, maybe. But none of the growth guys are as funny as you are, and you don’t even know it. Now, were there some lessons that you learned from Peter? Yeah. The two biggest things are, when you have the courage of your convictions—if you’re right—then don’t worry about what other people think. The second thing is it always takes longer than you think for stuff to work out. That would be the two I recall at this moment. 6 | Tim McElvaine Your average holding period is a long time with stocks, right? Yeah. We own stocks for a long time quite simply because it takes a long time for them to go up. If they went up quickly, I’d love to have high turnover and sell them quickly, but it’d take a long time to go up. There was a poster that you saw a long time ago that you read … Oh, yeah. Yeah. How did that affect you? A lot of people who come into the business want to do something. They like the activity, I think it comes a little bit from—our business today is like Xbox on steroids, right? You can get the game in front of you, you see the lights flashing, you can hit a button and buy and hit another button and sell. There’s lots of adrenalin; it’s exciting. So for me, I kind of operate at a completely different spectrum. I make Homer Simpson look active because there’s not that much excitement happening in my office. I can go to the bathroom and not worry that I missed making a million dollars because of a portfolio decision. So my sister had this poster up that said, “Sometimes I sit and think, and sometimes I just sit.” That kind of summarizes a day at the office for me. In other words, if there’s nothing to do, nothing to buy, then don’t spend the money. Then don’t do it. Yeah. Stock Market Superstars | 7 One of the best hedge fund managers of all time, George Soros, the big macro guy, said exactly the same thing. He said, “I sit there…I do nothing…until if I see a big pile of money in the corner, then I’ll go pick it up, and I’ll bring it over.” And then he said, “I’ll sit and do nothing for a long time until I find another big pile of money.” It’s interesting because he has a totally different philosophy from what you do, but he was really saying the same thing. Yeah, it’s kind of like.… You don’t feel the need to always be busy. Yeah, Buffett talks about how you don’t have to swing at every pitch. It’s kind of like value investing. Certainly, maybe investing in general is really boredom with moments of pure panic in between. A lot of time there’s nothing to do, and then all of a sudden there’ll be those moments where there’s something to do. You need to make sure that in the boredom times, you are getting yourself ready to act when you need to. But you don’t need to do everything every minute. I think that’s the most important thing I learned. Do you think most people have the ability to be as patient as you need to be? It certainly doesn’t seem like it because you have to be extremely patient. You’ve owned stocks for years before they go up, and then they’ll go up 50 percent in three months. It’s helpful to be somewhat challenged, so time passes and I’m still think- ing well of stuff. I think if you’re confident with what you’re doing and you see the value building over time, then you don’t mind waiting at all. It’s a lot easier to do than you think. The important thing is not to get distracted by greener fields, because every day you come in there’ll be something over there that looks like it might be more interesting. It’s kind of like with a girlfriend or a boyfriend, and for sure if you’re on a diet you can look at the menu, but you’d better not go and start sampling unless you’ve decided you’re no longer on the diet. Same thing with investing, for me at least. It’s fine to go and look at all these other stocks to see because they look interesting. To actually make the purchase and sale decision, you have to be really careful because the only thing we control in this business is when you buy and when you sell. That’s the only one thing I can do. I can’t make the stock go up or down. Frank Mersch said the one thing he could do better is to be more patient. He said that he owned 30 percent of Canadian Natural Resources, of the entire company, at $0.10 a share. He said that he got bored with it and sold it. He said, “Can you imagine?” I had over 10 percent of Denison Mines at one stage. It went up a little bit, and I thought, “Wow! Ooh, ain’t I bright?” So I think I sold it for $0.15 or whatever. The interesting thing too is quite often the ideas you’re most focused on will languish and the one that you’ve kept in the portfolio because you think it’s cheap but you’re not expecting anything out of it this year…suddenly something happens. So, yeah, it’s kind of funny that way. You start a year and you never know exactly where your gains are going to come from, at least in my case. 8 | Tim McElvaine What are the three things that you look for when you assess a stock? There are actually like three and a half, and the half thing I’m a little bit reluctant to talk about because most people think I’m dumb when I mention it, but, regardless, I will. First thing is, “Does it trade for less than it’s worth?” which you know every person will say that. So you figure out what you think the company is worth, and we go through a four-step process to do that. We look at liquidation value. We look at kind of a break up value. What would a private market buyer pay for it? We also look at what happens if things go the way we think. I try and model out three years. I don’t try and go out a long period, but try and go out a couple of years and say, “This is where I think they’re going, and if they’re going in that direction, what does it mean the company will look like in three years?” What will happen to cash primarily? Not so much worried about earnings, but what will happen to cash over that period? A fourth one is a kind of discounted cash flow, but there are so many things you can play around with when you go out longer term. I’m really careful not to let the Excel spreadsheet rule me. In fact, I much prefer analysis that you can do with a pencil and a piece of paper to one that’s very elaborate with multiple spreadsheets. That’s the first thing. Does it trade for less than you think it’s worth? The second thing is, “How volatile is that estimate of what it’s worth?” Think of the story of “The Three Little Pigs.” If you take an example of a straw hut, at the first sign of difficulty, the first time a wolf comes around, it’ll get blown down. Then, perhaps a comparison to that is Nortel. When Nortel was a hundred bucks, the winds came up and the company blew up essentially, and the valuation was way too high. So that’s a straw hut. I kind of look for brick houses in the three little pigs lingo, and what I mean there is you feel like you have a strong foundation in what you’re buying. Because I’m a value investor, your brick house won’t look like a beautiful waterfront property on Lake Muskoka or West Vancouver. The roof might be damaged, the window might be missing, it might need a paint job, but “the bones” in real estate lingo are good, and then that gives you your foundation. We owned shares of a company called Sun-Rype many years ago, and even if Sun-Rype may be no money for a number of years, I felt comfortable that its presence, its position in the marketplace, had an intrinsic value, that no matter what I could get our money back. So that’s what I mean in having a firm foundation. Going back a step, the first thing was, “Does it trade for less than it’s worth?” How volatile is that estimate? The volatility you want is on the upside and not on the downside. The third thing is to determine whether management is for or against you. Basically, are they in the same boat as you, the management and the board? Many times, a good board has saved us from a difficult situation. The half, as I call it, the three and a half thing, is I try and look for situations where the sellers don’t care about price. What I mean there is when you’re buying a stock, if the seller is thinking carefully about whether or not they ought to sell, then it’s a tougher decision to buy because you’re basically betting the buyer is wrong. I prefer situations where people just want out, and that can happen. There are a couple of reasons. One is it’s an area people don’t want to be involved in, meaning there’s really bad news. It can be specific to Stock Market Superstars | 9 That was the situation with TELUS bonds a few years ago. TELUS was the same thing. I actually didn’t end up buying them, so I missed that one, but I looked at them, that’s for sure. They went down to $0.50 on the dollar. Yeah, yeah. a stock or it could be an industry. An example might be newspapers these days. People just don’t want to be involved in newspaper stock, so they sell them. That’ll lead to depressed valuations. A second reason is if there’s some type of constraint that prevents them from buying the stock. For example, with a bond, because I do distressed too, I would ask if there was a bankruptcy filing, then you might have someone sell the bonds because they can’t own those shares in their portfolio, or those bonds in their portfolio. The third reason, and the one I tend to use the most, is a corporate event. For example, a spinout, a rights issue, something happens like that. An example there is we own some shares in a company called Citadel Broadcasting, the third largest radio broadcaster in the U.S. It suffers from two things: one, people don’t like radio, so they’re not particularly interested. Secondly, it existed before, but primarily a large portion of it’s float, or a large portion of the shares that are currently outstanding came in June of last year when they acquired ABC Radio from Disney. They gave Disney shares in Citadel, and Disney then spun those shares out to Disney shareholders. So very roughly speaking, if you had $5,000 in Disney, today you’d have about $40 in Citadel stock. The inclination then is I don’t even want to look at the Citadel. I’ll just sell it because Disney is the company I bought. That’s what I mean as a spinout, someone just wants to get rid of the security without thinking about price, and that’s when we like to get involved. 10 | Tim McElvaine When did you take over the Cundill LP? Is that what it was called at the time? At that time, I was living in Ontario. I came back to Vancouver to work with Peter on Value Fund. I acquired Cundill Capital Limited Partnership at that time and changed the name. Peter, he had a lot of his own money in it at that time. Does he still? No, Peter has been very generous with me, not only allowing me to set up my own business many years ago, but also being a large investor of mine over the last eight years in the case of the LP or twelve years in the case of the trust. He owned part of my management company for a number of years, but when he sold his business to Mackenzie, they had a non-compete, so I bought him out of that. In typical Peter fashion, he did it on a generous basis to me. I find it incredible that Peter Cundill, one of the gods of value investing, entrusts his net worth to you. He obviously must have a tremendous amount of confidence in what you’re doing for him. Maybe he has a tremendous amount of money too. [Laughs] He says, “Aw, I can afford to give him a little bit.” What is the difference between the trust and the other fund? Yeah, it’s now a corp. Stock Market Superstars | 11 Right. It’s the same now? Yeah. On investments, I always believe strongly in simplicity. For example, if you hire an MBA or a CA or even just someone off the street and say, “Can you tell me ten reasons to buy a stock?” It’s easy to come up with ten reasons. It’s hard to say instead, “Can you tell me the three key drivers that we should be thinking about, but only the top three?” That’s a lot tougher, so it is the same thing with valuations. It’s actually very easy and comforting to do a big Excel model because you feel like you’re active, you have all of these numbers, and it feels good that you’re putting something together. It’s very hard to sit there with a pencil and say, “What do I really think? Define how this company should be valued.” The same thing with my business—I try and keep everything simple. We outsource as much as we can to RBC Dexia, as far as doing valuations, record keeping, and trade settlement. We try and do all of that outside so that the people inside are focused on client relations and investment. We had two funds. To the extent that I can get them together and make it one fund, I’d be happy with that and keep everything very basic, very simple. I don’t want a family of sixteen different funds. I think one of them was more foreign? Yeah, originally it was set up to be foreign. I ended up getting a lot of calls from people. Someone would come to me as an investor, and they don’t come because they think I have a brand or they want my Far East Asian Fund or my mining fund or something like that. They come because they like the fact that I have all my money in our funds, and they want to be a partner. So having two funds actually complicated that process because instead of saying, “We’re interested in the foreign fund or Canadian fund,” just said, “Well, I don’t care. Where does Tim have his money?” Right, right. That was part of the impetus behind combining everything, keeping our business very simple, and keeping my focus very simple. 12 | Tim McElvaine What funds at Cundill did you run? I ran Cundill Security Fund from June ‘92 until June ‘99. Then I was involved in Cundill Value Fund from 1999 to 2004. I co-managed Value Fund with Pete, and I managed Security Fund by myself, primarily out of Ontario where I was living at that time. I came back to Vancouver to work with Peter on Value Fund in ‘99 or 2000. Cundill has been kind of famous in the last few years for having a massive amount of the fund in Japan. A lot of people just didn’t see what you saw in Japan. I think the Japanese market was going down and down and down, but you were doing great. I think the stocks, generally speaking, were doing fine. We had a good group of research guys at Cundill on Japan, but I think it suffered. Even if you look at the period from 2000 onward, it was a pretty good period for value investors in North America. You had a lot of stuff in Japan that had bad balance sheets but high valuations, so that stuff just kept going down. You had stuff with good balance sheets and low valuations, and that kind of percolated up a little bit, so it was a little bit of a two-tiered market. Have you ever shorted stocks? Peter did, I think. Yeah, we used to short indexes for a little while. I bought puts on stocks in 2000, and in typical fashion, the puts expired. I had puts on GE, CIBC, and some others as well, but they expired in January of 2000. Then I didn’t renew them because I was so tired of losing money, and then all hell broke loose in March of 2000. So other than a good tale, I can’t say I profited from it, but that’s about the closest I ever got to shorting. Last year in Omaha, Nebraska, somebody asked Buffett about silver. He said, “Oh, yeah, we owned a lot of silver, and we bought it way too early, and we sold it way too early, and we never made any money. But that’s what we always do, so that’s okay.” So he said to Charlie Munger, “Well, what do you have to say about silver, Charlie?” Charlie said, “That’ll just about cover our expertise in commodities.” How is running what you run now different from the funds that you ran at Cundill? I think one of the things I’m thinking about here is size. I think it helps to be smaller generally. When I got involved with Peter in ‘91, the Value Fund had 400 stocks. I think it shrunk down to about 150, 100, 125 when I got involved in Value Fund again in 1999 or 2000, and then we worked it down to about 30 stocks after that. I think my predisposition has always been to have a more concentrated portfolio than maybe the average traditional value guy. I think Ben Graham certainly espoused having a large number of securities, and that’s been Tweedy’s approach as well. Templeton’s got a ton of stocks too. I’d say that’s a difference. The second thing is I do sometimes get involved in the securities, for example, go on the Board. That would be different from Cundill. Finally, I don’t mind looking at small stocks or big stocks, and when you’re running a large mutual fund, as much as you’d like to, you can’t spend your time working on small companies. Stock Market Superstars | 13 Do you look for stocks a lot of times that are undercovered by analysts, or analysts don’t even cover them at all? There are two ways that they get undercovered. One, of course, is if they’ve collapsed. There’s a certain…I don’t want to be cynical about it, but you see it happen with some regularity where a stock may be $20, and a broker will have a buy on it with a target of $30. The stock falls to $10, and a broker will go to a hold, and then the stock falls to $5, the broker will go to a sell. The stock falls to $4, and the research analyst will suddenly no longer be working there. That is, I’d say, not an unusual pattern of some of the stocks we get involved with. Then over time, the analysts will come back in and they’ll get covered again, or sometimes the stocks just weren’t really covered from the beginning. That is the case with even something like Citadel Broadcasting, which used to be a billion dollar type company, but now is maybe $300 or $400 million in market cap. Because of all of the changes over the last year, there’s a very limited amount of analyst coverage, and that works to our advantage, of course. Right. It creates the inefficiencies. Yeah, it creates inefficiencies, so I agree. An undercovered stock $15something that we’re quite happy to get involved with. 14 | Tim McElvaine I think a value investor believes that the market is very inefficient in the short run, but you’re banking on the fact that it’s efficient in the long run or else you’re never going to realize the value that you think you should have. Is that true? Yeah, for sure. I joke that there are two types of investors out there. There are the people who approach life saying, “I’m smarter than everyone else because I think I can figure out,” and this is my comment about that. I think that’s great. They think I can figure out why the stock is cheaper and therefore will go up more than people realize. That would typically be a type of growth manager because he’s saying, “My cousin’s best friend’s housekeeper works also for the CEO of Research in Motion. They tell me the number of units shipped is going up; therefore, I think I have an inside edge, and I want to buy that stock.” Once again, their analysis is all based on the fact that they think they know something the market doesn’t, or they think the market is wrongly valuing it. On a value basis, I suggest that value managers are much dumber than growth managers, but at least they know they’re dumb. When I’m buying a stock, I don’t think about all the wonderful things that could go wrong. I just try and think about all the things that are going wrong and whether or not they’re really serious, so that means a couple of things. First, it means if the market thinks things are worse than they are, then you’ll get appreciation— the relief, so to speak—because things weren’t as bad as they thought. The second thing is it usually takes some time for the stock to turn around, so that’s why your holding period is a little bit longer. A lot of stocks that you own are very illiquid, but you own big chunks of the company. How do you get the liquidity you need to either buy or sell when they trade 500 shares a day? What always happens is you see a stock and you say, “I like that idea,” and I try and have my positions between 5 and 10 percent. Let’s assume I buy a 5 percent position in a stock, and the broker says, “Tim, this is part of a cleanup. This is a guy who had a million shares, and he can’t get a bid on this somewhat illiquid stock, and there’s bad news on it. Are you interested?” So I’ll end up buying some, and I’ll think, “All right, we got a somewhat illiquid position but it has a good story.” The stock will promptly fall by a third and then, lo and behold, if the broker doesn’t phone back and say, “Actually, it wasn’t a cleanup. There’s another block of a million shares available. Are you interested?” I end up saying, “Yes.” Then, over time, I end up with these relatively large positions in stocks that don’t trade all the time. The situation usually changes a little bit, and either there’s a takeover or pick up of research coverage, and we’re able to sell into that. So you got liquidity? So we get liquidated that way. You have to be a little bit careful, and I’m guilty of this a couple of times. When the liquidity comes in on some of these stocks, it’s usually because there’s good things happening. It would be easy, then, to say, “Oh, maybe I should hang onto this for a lot longer because maybe I was too pessimistic.” When you see liquidity start to come in, one of the things I’m very conscious of is, I make the easy decisions when there’s no hope, and then it gets some hope. The person who’s coming in and trying to value how much that hope is worth has a much tougher job, and I’m better off to sell to them and take my money and go and find another hopeless situation. Stock Market Superstars | 15 I don’t know if you ever read this, but I found it very interesting. Benjamin Graham set up his office down the hall from Tweedy Browne, and they were the broker, and they’d accumulate the stock that nobody wanted and then he’d buy it. Tweedy Browne looked and said, “Well, he’s actually doing pretty well on these crappy stocks, the ones that we’re dumping off to him.” So they became a value money management firm themselves. Many great stock pickers have a team of analysts working for them. I’ve been to your office in Vancouver here, and it was an empty office with a laptop. How do you find ideas when you don’t have a bunch of people looking around for you? The first thing is, I worked with a good group at Cundill, and without a doubt, a lot of them were brighter than I. The important thing in the investment business is that you have someone who the buck stops with—so someone who feels responsible for the fund or for the portfolio. When you have a lot of peo- ple working with you, you can spend a lot of time getting into elaborate discussions over what you should and shouldn’t be doing. That can be quite helpful, but it can also be quite distracting. I get involved in messy situations, so I feel quite comfortable with how I’m approaching it. It can be good to have a sounding board. 16 | Tim McElvaine It’s kind of like the song by Sony and Cher. Oh, “You’ve got me, babe.” Yeah. With my funds, my name is on the door—You got me, babe, so to speak—and unfortunately, I’m the only one. I’m working now with another guy who’s helping me with some structural stuff as well as the investment portfolio, and it’s a bit of an experience for both of us. I do think that having people working with you that help generate ideas lets you cover more ground. The only question is, how distracting is that to the decision making process? Peter Puccetti told me he has a good friend who just watches what Peter buys. He says, “I’ll just watch what you buy and then two years later, I’ll buy it.” When you get into something, does the news usually get a bit worse? Is it catching a falling knife? Well, I think for sure every time I buy a stock, it tends to go down by a third after we buy it. Every time I buy it, I’m pretty sure this one won’t go down by a third. So the answer to your question is yes. The neat thing about value investing is if you think a company is worth five and you’re paying three, you have a margin of safety. If the stock falls to two, and you still think the company is worth five, it’s actually a better deal. You have a larger margin of safety. Unlike a growth guy, the second the stock may start to go down, they worry that it’s an indication that they’ve missed something in the valuation and the smartest thing to do is sell. Quite often with a value stock, if you’re confident that your analysis is correct, a stock going down is really the opportunity to keep adding money to it. So averaging down is a fact of life, and I think probably the thing that tests your judgment the most is if the stock falls by half, would you still be interested in buying more? If you say yes from the beginning, and you’re able to do that, then I think that says a lot about your discipline as an investor, certainly a value investor. You said once that you tend to own cheap stocks—stocks that everybody agrees are cheap. I think your idea is to take out the but. Yeah, it’s the same thing, I would be a great golfer but for the fact that I can’t hit the ball properly. So that but is a pretty big thing in life. I’d look like Fabio but for the fact that I’m thirty pounds overweight and bald, so but is a pretty big word in stuff, and it’s certainly a big word in investing. So people will say, “You own some shares in….” Let’s take Citadel again because I talked about it, “…but it’ll be a couple of years before they execute on their plan, but it’s in the radio segment, but there are a lot of sellers.” You just look at what’s behind the but and say, “Does that really matter to me? Does it matter that it might take a couple of years?” No. One of the things I think we do as investors is trade time for price. Does it matter that it’s in the radio business? No, because I think the price I’m buying at is attractive enough. So, yeah, we try and take the but out of investing. It sounds like a bad joke, but that’s the way we do it. Stock Market Superstars | 17 If you’re wrong on a growth stock, and you hold it, you can have a permanent loss of capital. If you’re wrong on a value stock, other than being a value trap, you don’t normally get a permanent loss of capital? Yeah, let’s face it, value portfolios look ugly. I think the best example is I remember I used to take my kids to Stanley Park when it had a penguin exhibit. When you were just entering the area, you were maybe a hundred yards away, you’d see the penguin exhibit and all these penguins are splashing and dancing, and you go, “Oh, ain’t that cute?” When you walk up within five feet of a penguin exhibit, it stinks like heck, and you say, “This thing is awful, like let’s get away from here.” So it didn’t matter how picturesque it looked from the distance. My portfolio is like that. From a distance it’s a beautiful work of Right. The other thing that is related is quite often I think people mix up uncertainty and risk. I can say without a doubt all of the stocks I get involved in are uncertain, and by uncertain I mean you don’t know what’s going to happen over the next quarter, over the next six months, maybe even in the next year. But I measure risk as: What’s the chance that we’ll actually lose money on the position? Whether or not it goes up and down in the stock market, whether or not I know what’s going to happen next quarter, isn’t a risk to me. As I said, risk is: What’s the chance in permanent loss of capital? So when someone looks at a stock and says, “I’m uncertain about where it’s going,” I think that’s fine. art. Up close, someone would say, “You own twelve duds.” I guess that’s what I do for a living. Own duds? Own duds. 18 | Tim McElvaine How important is the qualitative side of it? Do you get to know the management? Are these guys honest? Are they going to execute properly? Is that why you get on the board of companies? Well, let’s try and pull that apart. The first thing I think is running the numbers on the stock doesn’t give a reason to buy it. The things I’m looking at are the qualitative stuff. What can go wrong? What can go right? Where are the incentives for the group? What’s in it for the managers? I think that’s a very important part. Of course, it’s always nice to see insider buying. That’s a well-known thing. Sometimes at moments of crisis, though, insiders may be restricted from buying, or they’re unable to for a number of reasons. So you have to be a little bit careful with insider buying. What I look for is, as I said in the beginning, is management in the same boat as you or not, or is their compensation, or preferably, their ownership such that in a moment of crisis when they’re dealing with shareholders’ money, will they make a decision in the best interest of the owners, or will they make it in the best interests of the managers? That’s the main thing I try and think about. What are those crises occurring? How damaging are they to the company? How will management make a decision when they reach that position? Now, in a couple of cases, three in particular, I’ve gone on boards, but I don’t go looking for a fight. I’m a lover, not a fighter, so I don’t like doing activism. I don’t say, “I’m going to buy that stock,” and agitate. That’s not our way. It’s more like I’ve got backed into a corner, and I’ll get involved because I have to be. Once again, in all of those cases, I can say without a doubt I’ve never met a board member who wasn’t honest and had the best intentions, but as a shareowner of a company, you have to try and evaluate whether or not their intentions are really in your interest. An example of that might be where someone is making an acquisition that they believe will make the company stronger in aggregate, but on a per-share basis, it is not. The best example of that would be oil and gas stocks. They may feel that they want to buy more reserves when the price is high because it’ll make the company stronger. If you measured reserves per share, you might figure that it’s a dilutive deal for each of the indi- vidual investors. So that’s what I’m talking about when I say I am trying to figure out where the incentives are. Stock Market Superstars | 19 One of the biggest shareholders of Sun-Rype was the Jim Pattison Group. I think they still are one of the biggest? Well, yeah, I think if you have a choice of investing with a billionaire or investing with a pauper, you’re probably better off investing with the billionaire. The billionaire. There you go. Certainly, we’ve sold a large portion of our Sun-Rype position to the Pattison Group. I was on the board with Mike Korenberg and Don Selman from the Pattison Group. I was always very impressed with their honesty and their integrity but also how they looked at stuff. They were focused on return on capital. They were focused on cash flow; everything that you and I would think about as a value investor, they were doing from a business perspective. I think that’s a tribute to Jimmy and the culture he’s put in place there. Everybody kind of says the same thing about how they look at a stock, but why have you generated 20 percent a year for the past ten years before performance fee and hardly anybody else has? What makes you different? Is it the smaller base of money? Is it the different ways you look at it? The bizarre thing in this business is when you meet someone and they say, “The stock’s going to $30.” You can’t control that part of the business. Where I sit, you really can’t. Sometimes if you get involved in the board, you can do stuff that will further it, but, nevertheless, you can’t control what the market is going to do with the price each day. The only thing you can control is when you can buy and when you can sell. I’ve been fortunate in that I’ve been really involved in a number of hopeless things that became not as hopeless as people thought, and that’s been a large part of the performance. Unlike some of the other investors that you talk about in your book, some people make overall projections and then find stocks that’ll fit in. I have enormous respect for people who do that, but that’s not where I am. I’m really looking for complete despair and protecting the downside and knowing that when the turn comes, it usually comes back, and it’s a lot better than you expect. I think Benjamin Graham said that he would definitely buy a crummy business as long as it was at the best price, whereas other people have said, “I’m going to buy a great business at a good price but I’ll never get a great business at a fantastic price.” What I’ve tried to do is stay away from the really bad stuff and realize that whenever I think a really wonderful business is at a good price, it’s usually me who’s confused about the quality of the business, not the person selling. So what I’ve tried to do is say price is important and cash is important, meaning cash flow. I’ll try and stay away from the stuff that consumes cash. What I ideally like is a mediocre business, so to speak, that each year will be worth a little bit more primarily because of cash flow. If the stock prices stayed the same, your margin of safety over time inches up. That’s where I’ve had the best luck. If we take Sun-Rype, for example, I think we bought our first stock at $2.10 or $2.20 or something like that. We got $1.50 in dividends, and we sold our stock to Jimmy for $11.50. When we bought it, we definitely did not think it was worth $11.50, but over the years, the value kept compounding. The return on invested capital within Sun-Rype was very, very high, and it doesn’t take very many Sun-Rypes in a lifetime to have a good outcome. 20 | Tim McElvaine How do you avoid a value trap? A company is really, really undervalued because it’s going to zero! Have you ever had a situation like that? Well, yeah, sure, you get them all the time. I don’t mind buying situations that are challenging at the moment, but I’m not a dumb contrarian in that I’ll buy situations that there’s no hope of winning. For example, if I go and box against Mike Tyson, I’m not going to win. So if I’m going to get into a fight, which I don’t want to, I want to make sure it’s a fight I can win. Same thing with a business. If it’s losing money, losing cash, and the value is staying constant or declining, you have to be really, really careful what price you pay. The value traps I’ve been stuck in tend to be where the net asset value has stayed about the same over the period and the stock price hasn’t gone anywhere. The best situations for me have been where the value of the company has grown. It can be quite slowly over time so that my margin of safety is getting bigger, and that gives you the large return. I try and avoid stuff where I think it’s going to be stagnant. I’m talking about the underlying value, not the stock price, so I’m really careful about what you pay in those circumstances. You said you’re the only guy in Canada who missed the entire oil and gas run in gas and minerals. Yeah. Stock Market Superstars | 21 Have you had resource stocks? How do you analyze a resource stock versus a retailing company because it’s a totally different business? I’ve been in all of the hottest sectors. I was just, like, five years too early and sold three years too early. We owned real estate, closed-end funds, and sold them before they became very popular. I think we owned some oil and gas trusts, and I owned some gold mining stocks and Teck, which then became Teck Cominco. I owned Denison Mines, I owned oil drillers, and I bought them when there was despair, meaning people felt they didn’t have any hope. Then the stocks go up somewhat and you sell them. I could definitely be faulted on selling early, but that’s okay. What I said before was I try and make the easy decision that things aren’t as bad as people think. I have protection in the price, and when it gets up into the area where you’re debating what type of multiple should be put on it, then I’ll let someone else make that decision. Paraphrasing a little bit the Rothschild quote, “I buy on assets or I buy on intrinsic value; I sell on earnings.” That’s kind of what I do. I don’t try and figure out what the multiple ought to be—that’s someone else’s job—or where the growth rate is going to be. They’re difficult decisions, and I’m happy to leave them to someone else. To give you an example of that, we had a large position about five years ago in a company called Sask Wheat Pool. It actually first was a distressed debt position in that there were some concerns that Sask Wheat Pool was going into bankruptcy, so we bought some debt, and that got resolved. We made some money on the debt and sold it. Then Sask Wheat Pool did a rights issue at about $5, and we stepped in and bought a lot of the rights, which then led to stock. That’s how we got a large part of our Sask Wheat Pool position, or really nearly all of it, is around the rights issue. At the time, people said Sask Wheat Pool had been through a couple of years where there had been not very much production on the prairies, so it was a business that was going to be impacted by global warming. They had too many fixed costs in that business. It Have you ever had resource stocks in a portfolio? Cundill had Canadian Natural Resources for a long time. You know, I never had that. was controlled by the railways because they did all of the shipping, and there was generally despair. Now, today, with the stock almost three times higher and with many, many more shares outstanding, people are setting up agricultural funds to invest in stuff like Sask Wheat Pool, which is now called Viterra, because they feel that the outlook looks bright. Without a doubt, I did not make any prediction when we were buying the stock that agriculture was an important place to invest. I’m not that smart at all. It was just that Sask Wheat Pool was cheap, they were doing some smart stuff, and they had a very important presence in the industry. That’s why we bought it, and, of course, we sold it too early. I think I sold at $10 or $11 or something like that. It worked out very well. We got very high rates of compounding because it came off such a low base, and that’s kind of what’s helped the numbers. A stock like Potash used to be a value stock that nobody in their right mind would ever own. Exactly. I didn’t buy it, but I was aware of it, yeah. 22 | Tim McElvaine Now it’s only growth momentum managers who own Potash. How does the baton get passed when a value manager sells their stock to a growth manager? We buy stocks when they’re burned out, and then they start to go up a little bit, and we sell it to maybe a GARP (growth at a reasonable price) manager who then might sell it to a momentum guy. I don’t know who he sells it to, but he sells it to some poor person, and the stock collapses and comes back. It’s like passing the hot potatoes. [Laughs] Yes. It’s a good thing about getting older in this business. Some of the stocks I used to own come back. It also shows you have to be a little bit careful that you don’t believe that all trees grow to heaven. I’ve heard some value managers say the biggest mistake you can make is extrapolation. They say, “Well, this has happened for the last five years, so if this continues to happen into the next ten years, it’s going to be massive.” It never seems to work that way. I’m also a little bit careful on reversion to the mean. People who say, “Well, they had 30 percent margins two years ago, and they only have 5 percent margins now. If they go back to 30 percent margins, I’ll make this much money.” That’s always a big leap of faith that I think you have to be careful about making. Stock Market Superstars | 23 My dad moved to California in the early 1960s; I always remember this story. There was a weatherman speaking on TV, and the way he said it everybody knew it was a joke. There was a huge influx of people into California at the time, and he said, “Now, I’ve calculated that if this number of people continue to move to California, then twenty years from now everybody in the United States will live in California.” Everybody laughed because everybody is not going to live in California. However, if you extrapolated that, that’s exactly what it would show, right? Yeah. If you’re playing poker and you don’t know who the patsy at the table is, then you’re the patsy. It’s the same thing a little bit in the investment business. If you’re looking around and you don’t know who the sucker is, then it’s probably you. In poker, I think a good poker player will make most of their money on a relatively small number of hands. Is it the same in the stocks? Do you make most of your money on three stocks out of ten that you’ll own? Well, I run a pretty concentrated portfolio, so I agree that I’m always surprised with which of those stocks go up in any year. I think what I also try to do is not make too many bets but just wait until the odds look definitely in your favour, and then bet significantly. As we talked about before, I think it’s human nature to say, “Well, that looks kind of interesting, so I’ll buy some of that. And that one looks kind of interesting, so I’ll buy some of that.” Then you soon end up with a hundred things that look kind of interesting. I much prefer to sit and wait for something that looks really interesting, and then go into it very significantly. Go big or go home. Yeah. So in your poker analogy, you wait until you’ve got a really good hand, and then bet strongly. Now, of course, in poker, when you do that, if you’ve been quiet all of the previous five hands, the second you do that everyone else is going to fold. In the investment business, that doesn’t happen, so that’s a huge advantage you have in our business versus playing with a group of poker players. To get more understanding of your philosophy, let’s go through some individual examples, like Humpty Dumpty Foods. Yeah, we.… 24 | Tim McElvaine That was a criticism people had about Japanese companies. They weren’t shareholder friendly and they didn’t really make a lot of money. Oh, for sure. When I look at a company, there are lots of wonderful companies run by great people. It doesn’t mean that you have to buy them. That’s the great thing about being a value investor. I can benefit from the RIMs of the world who are doing things like the BlackBerry, although I actually don’t have one. That’s too much connection for me. I don’t have to put my money into that type of situation. I wait. When I really think I have an advantage on the investment, on the price, then I act. What attracted you to that stock? How about Indigo? Yeah, the good, the bad, the ugly. We talked about Sun-Rype, and that was clearly a good. A bad one, to some extent, would be Humpty Dumpty. I got involved in it—I don’t remember exactly when—but it was an IPO. They acquired a private brand business, I think, from Cott for chips, so there was a growth idea. They thought it was going to do really well, and I don’t know if it got as high as $10 or $8. Then the stock collapsed to $2 or $3, and that’s when I started to buy it on the basis that they were the second largest potato chip manufacturer east of Winnipeg and their competition was Frito Lay. They had got into a price war with Frito Lay, and management owned a significant amount of stock. I learned a lot from the Humpty Dumpty experience. I eventually ended up going on the board as part of a proxy fight and we replaced management, and then closed the facility and ended up selling the company to Old Dutch, so it came out as a save at best. But I learned a lot about business being on the board, as I did at Sun-Rype, and as I do on Rainmaker. I think that’s made me a better investor. The type of things you think about are a competitive situation and cash flow and business model. In the case of Sun-Rype and Humpty Dumpty, in a different fashion, in the case of Rainmaker, there was a focus on doing volume perhaps at the expense of margins and cash flow. This gets back to my earlier discussion. Even in my own business, I’m just trying to keep things simple. Activity doesn’t equal success or profitability. I think that’s what was a bit of the issue with Sun-Rype and Humpty Dumpty. But Sun-Rype resolved it quite successfully, and Humpty Dumpty, as I said, was at best a save. I’ve always found when stocks go into the index, they’ve already gone up a tremendous amount, so the index is momentum based. Microsoft and Intel were put into the index in 2000, right at the top. Yeah, I think it would be fair to say, because as a value guy, I do look at when the index changes come out. It’s not because I’m thinking about the weighting of my portfolio, but it’s quite simply to see what’s being deleted because, once again, I like ideas where the seller is not caring about price. You get a certain amount of selling after an index deletion that might be interesting, but it hasn’t really been a source of great ideas. But who knows? Maybe tomorrow. Stock Market Superstars | 25 If you look at the past ten years—and it’s been a rough year for value in the past year—you’ve still generated before the performance fee 20 percent a year, 16 percent net to investors, which is right at the top. You’ve had great returns while maintaining pretty high cash positions along the way. I think at the end of ‘97 you had 59 percent cash. You’ve had less cash recently, but I think 25, 27 percent cash has been common. How did you generate those returns with that much cash? This gets back to a comment I made before: I try and only act when I think there’s something to do, and I don’t care what the portfolio looks like relative to the index. If there isn’t anything to do, I’m quite happy to sit on my hands. That’s what cash ends up being. It’s not an asset class in my mind, it’s the residual. If there’s nothing to do, we’ll just sit in cash. If there’s something to do and it’s really good, then let’s spend the money. As I said to you before, when the year ends and you look back and say, wow, I was up whatever this year, sometimes I’m as surprised as the next person. I can’t say how it happened that way. All I know is I try to be disciplined on when to buy, and that’s worked to our advantage. Back to distressed securities. The Loewen Group bond—did that work or not? Yeah, it did. Yeah, I like doing distressed debt. It’s the same thing as buying distressed stocks, really. It’s just a different part of the capital structure. There hasn’t been as much stuff to do recently, although I have to say in the last six months, we’ve started looking at the distressed again, and we’re quite close on at least one idea to buying some of the debt. The advantages to distressed debt are twofold. Sometimes you get a coupon, sometimes not. Secondly, there’s usually an event that comes along—a restructuring, an emergence from bankruptcy, or something like that—that allows the position to turn over naturally. You’re not dependent on waiting for the business to improve or analysts to get coverage or liquidating to come in. There’s usually an event with distress that gives you liquidity. It’s an interesting place to invest. We do not buy bonds unless they’re significantly discounted from face, and that’s the only time we would do it. 26 | Tim McElvaine There was a study done where they gave investment problems to sociopaths in prison, and they did much better than the average population. They had no conscience. They didn’t care. They just made logical decisions without any emotion. At times, my performance has been compared to everything from sociopaths to primates, so if there’s any day you’re feeling like you’re a bright person, don’t worry. You can find someone to tell you you’re not. So it keeps you humble. Why did you make the insignia for your firm a toad with a prince’s crown? Well, I guess all of our stocks have warts on them. We have to kiss a lot of frogs to look for the prince, so quite often I think that if I needed one investment tool in this business, it might be LypSyl and not a calculator. That’s how the frog came into being. Can you pinpoint one thing that has helped you to do well? As I said this to you before, it would be trying to emulate Homer Simpson in my daily investment activity. I’m always amazed with the people who get on television and people ask them stock ideas, and they know something about every stock. My brain can only hold so much information. If it’s not something that I want to focus on, then I’m not going to spend a whole bunch of time thinking about it. If it is something I’m interested in, then I’ll focus on it, and if it’s attractive, I’ll actually do it. So not feeling like I come in every day having to make a decision but being focused on waiting for what I think are the right decisions and being confident when you make them. I think that there’s some advantage to dropping your children on their head at an early age because I think that’s what happened to me. Send them into the investment business if that happens. Does one stock kind of stand out in your mind as being your biggest win and your biggest multi-bagger? Your mind is always drawn to most recent stuff, so Sun-Rype was a great win for us. I probably overstayed by a couple of years. I could have sold it earlier. Glacier Ventures is one of the largest publishers of community newspapers. I think we bought our first stock at $0.70 or so. That management group, Sam Grippo and Jon Kennedy, have been wonderful at creating value over the last five years, and the stock’s roughly $4 give or take a little bit. What I found, is when we look at a stock, I’m not looking for a 20 percent discount to what I think it’s worth. I’m kind of thinking if things go right and we wait three or four years or five years can the stock be a double or triple, or quadruple? Thankfully, we’ve had a number of those and that’s helped the performance a lot. You seem to find a lot of stocks that are under $5. It’s quite often not before I buy them. Stock Market Superstars | 27 Indigo Books, what drew you to that? At the time Indigo was a dog with fleas. I go back to my joke earlier about penguins. It’s certainly like that when you go up and you look close at each individual idea. There’s usually some significant part that stinks. What happened in Indigo was that they bought Chapters, and the stock essentially had collapsed. Heather Reisman was involved. Yeah. Heather Reisman had formed Indigo, but she was the person behind the merger with Chapters, because Chapters had gotten into some difficulty. They were doing a rights issue. I just was scrolling through the paper, and I saw, “Oh, Indigo is doing a rights issue.” As I said before, I try and look for situations where there’s an event going on. Following that up, I noticed that the rights issue was backed by Gerry Schwartz. Now he is Heather’s husband, but he’s also one of the most successful businessmen we have in Canada. I have a partner as well, but I know she’s not going to put money into something that I’m doing, into my fund if she thought it was a losing proposition. I think Gerry approached life the same way. What you had there was essentially insider buying, so that got my interest. I got the documents and said, “Well, what’s interesting about Indigo?” First, they have an important presence in Canada. It would be very hard to come in and compete against them. Chapters and Indigo are a large, large network of stores, both in the malls and the superstores, so they have a competitive position. Whether it’s worth a lot of money or a little bit of money, it’s there. The second thing is the book business is extremely cash generative compared to a lot of retail. The furniture and fixtures are not as significant as you’d expect, so there’s actually a fairly high return on invested capital. The business is seasonal. Thirdly, their margins were significantly below similar companies elsewhere in the world. That was basically the four key things. Gerry was putting in money to backstop it, they had an important presence in the industry, they could produce free cash flow, and there was the opportunity for margin expansion. Then from there, I talked to the company—I tried to figure out what might happen over time, and they worked out okay. You bought it at $4.50? Yeah, something like that. It got as high as $18 and it is now about $12. Having a stock go from $4 to—let’s average those two and say $15 or $16— that’s quite helpful to performance. 28 | Tim McElvaine When you take a stock on, is it always less than 10 percent of the portfolio at cost? Yeah, it’s like say 5 to 10 percent. In the case of Indigo Books, I think it was like a 7 or 8 percent position, or something like that. If it doubles, it’s extremely accretive to performance; if it doesn’t, that’s where it’s painful. That’s why I try and only invest in stuff I feel confident in, because when you have a 5 percent position in the portfolio or a 7 percent position in the portfolio, you hate to make a mistake on the easy stuff. There’s always going to be stuff out of the blue that hits you, but you hate to make a basic unforced error, as Warren Buffett would call it, on the analysis. There’s a difference between patience and delusion. The important thing for me in Indigo was hearing that management thought margins could expand and seeing some progress towards expanding margins. If that didn’t happen, then you have to get out of the position because it’s not becoming what you thought it would. I think that’s important to understand. You have to be patient for stuff to happen, but you also have to be realistic where you think they’re going and test the company against that. How much money do you manage now? About $160 million give or take a little bit. I enjoy my goal in this business: to make my partners a respectable return and enjoy the relationships with them and have fun. Although I’m an accountant, so it’s not the same as a growth guy, as I said before. My objective isn’t to have a $10 billion fund. My objective is not to have a family of funds. My objective is over time to compound at a respectable amount of money. I have all my money in the funds, so I can look people in the eye and say, “I’m in the same boat as you.” How many investors do you have approximately? Probably about 500, give or take a little bit. Stock Market Superstars | 29 I think you try to treat them, like you said, as partners. You did something a few years ago where you got their pictures? Yeah, what I said to people was, “Why don’t you send us your picture— you doing something fun, not your passport photo. With 500 people, it’s unrealistic to know all of them. The people broke into three categories: those who just didn’t respond, those who sent pictures of themselves doing fun things, and those who just thought I was some psychopath wacko who wanted a picture of them to post on my bathroom wall. Didn’t they get bonus points if they were holding products? Yeah, if they sent a picture holding a product of a company we owned in the portfolio. Now at the time, we had Loewen bonds, which was a funeral home, so I wasn’t really looking for someone sending that along. We had Molson too, so if they sent a picture, drinking Molson or eating Humpty Dumpty chips or Sun-Rype, that was fine. As I said, not an insignificant number of people thought I was some type of warped psycho. We haven’t done that recently. What’s your biggest mistake? Is there something that stands out that you just wish you hadn’t have done? I make a fair number of them. The one that I make consistently is buying too big a position too quickly. Every time I do that, I vow next time I won’t, and then I do it again. That’s always one of those kind of “I should have known better” things. It doesn’t mean that I think I was wrong with the initial position. It was just I went in too early, thinking this time it won’t go down by a third or half or more, and then they always do. So one of these days I’ll figure that out, but I haven’t yet. What did you learn from your biggest mistake? Well, I was hoping to learn. 30 | Tim McElvaine You haven’t learned it yet, but you’re still working on it? [Laughs] I think that’s getting into my brain. The other thing is, if I kind of look back over the ten years, it always takes a little bit longer than you think in a value stock. You get in there and you think that it’s a two-year turnaround, and it ends up being a three- or four-year turnaround. Sometimes it can take more money that you think, but sometimes it goes up more than you think. I never once thought that Indigo would ever see $18 when we bought it. The second thing is being invested with good people has always made a difference to me. I’ve been fortunate enough to understand the incentives or where people are coming from. I’m talking about primarily the board here. That’s bailed me out of many a difficult situation. I think more about that now than I perhaps did when I first started in the business in ‘91. Management is the key? Not so much management; it’s having directors. I’ve seen companies with the largest compliance manuals on earth, but I’d rather take a director with common sense and $200,000 worth of stock over the best compliance follower in the world. I think having some skin in the game makes a real difference at the board level because the board then sets the goalposts for management. I think sometimes you have warning labels on your reports. What are those all about? You always say, “What I did yesterday doesn’t mean that I can do it again tomorrow,” so that’s a big thing in the investment business. Conversely, I would say that if you invest with someone, whether it’s Eric Sprott or Warren Buffett or George Soros or whomever, the first thing you want to do is understand how they invest and whether or not you’re comfortable with it. Then, from time to time, check and make sure they’re still investing the same way they said they would invest. People are going to have good times and they’re going to have bad times, but I think the best investors have been ones who are disciplined and consistent in their approach. I think that’s why a lot of these guys that I’ve interviewed for the book work for themselves, because they can be free thinkers. You can afford to think outside the box when you work for yourself. What you do is you get people who come in and say, “You shouldn’t own this, you shouldn’t own that, you shouldn’t own this,” so you end up succumbing to the pressure from others. With your own business, you answer to your investors, of course, but also to yourself at the end of the day. A lot of my investors are friends or family or people I can put a face to, which means I do feel quite a responsibility to them with every decision I make. My reputation is really all I have, so without a doubt I can make mistakes, but I’m not going to do anything that disadvantages my investors. Stock Market Superstars | 31 32 | Tim McElvaine 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. The McElvaine Investment Trust (“The Trust”) Highly satisfactory longer-term performance can be achieved by focusing on companies selling below net asset value. Given the size of the Canadian market, a small investment fund has a significant competitive advantage. The purpose of an investment vehicle is to make money, not to own stocks. This is an important distinction because it means the Trust will only invest when presented with an attractive situation. As there are few good ideas, there are times when concentration may be helpful. An incentive fee structure rewards performance, not asset growth. STOCK MARKET SUPERSTARS In these absorbing interviews with twelve of the greatest money managers in Canada, Bob Thompson explores the mechanics and psychology behind the key characteristics that IRWIN MICHAEL make these managers great. How do the country’s top stock pickers make millions of dollars in the markets? That’s the quesALLAN JACOBS tion Thompson answers in interviews with these money-making superstars. This book highlights the common traits of some of ROHIT SEHGAL the best money managers in the country. It will help average investors increase their skills by having the money managers, in ERIC SPROTT their own words, explain how their strategies, styles, and success have developed over the years. In this entertaining book, investors will see the insights, personalities, foibles, outlooks, TIM MCELVAINE and misgivings of some of the brightest minds in the investment world here in Canada. It will help make investors aware of their WAYNE DEANS own strengths and weaknesses. Learn what it takes to be a great investor! FRANK MERSCH At Canaccord Capital, Bob Thompson holds the title of Associate Portfolio Manager and Alternative Investment StratePETER PUCCETTI gist, and manages discretionary portfolios on behalf of clients of Canaccord Capital. Thompson is a regularly featured finanNORMAND LAMARCHE cial columnist in the National Post, writing specifically on alternative investments. He is a recognized authority on RANDALL ABRAMSON alternative investing in Canada, and maintains a select clientele of high-net-worth investors and institutions. Thompson is a frequent guest on the Business News NetJOHN THIESSEN work and has written and advised on articles for the Globe and Mail, Canadian Business, Investor’s Digest, Canadian Hedgewatch, Benefits Canada, and others. He is a popular guest speaker at international investment conferences on portfolio strategy, and in particular, alternative investments. For additional information about the managers in this book and a unique portfolio managed by Bob Thompson comprising the strategies of many of Canada’s top stock pickers, please visit: www.stockmarketsuperstars.com TOM STANLEY by Bob Thompson INSOMNIAC PRESS

Richard Perry's Q2 Letter to Investors in Perry Partners

Perry Q2 Letter

Second Quarter Review | July 20, 2009 Despite maintaining a cautious view as evidenced by our cash position and well-hedged portfolio, we are pleased to report a Q2 return of 8.55%. Our top performers for the quarter were our auto finance bank debt positions – specifically Chrysler Financial, Ford Motor Credit, and GMAC. These credits were the most compelling corporate distressed opportunities we have seen so far in this cycle. The market was pricing in losses in each company’s retail and wholesale loan portfolios well in excess of our most bearish scenarios. Despite retail losses running between 2% - 4% and dealer losses being negligible, market prices appeared to be discounting losses of 25% - 50% depending on the specific security. Each of these companies faced distinct challenges and was tethered to automotive companies of varying health. These positions were all profitable during the quarter despite the bankruptcy filings of both Chrysler Automotive and General Motors. A critical component of Chrysler’s bankruptcy plan involved GMAC taking the place of Chrysler Financial to provide financing for new Chrysler vehicles. In essence, Chrysler Automotive will continue manufacturing vehicles with retail customers and dealers financed by GMAC – thereby leaving Chrysler Financial in run-off mode. Despite the disruptions at Chrysler Automotive, Chrysler Financial’s results have remained solid with losses remaining low while the company generates significant cash flow as the portfolio quickly shrinks. We still have a large position in Chrysler Financial first and second lien bank debt, and despite significant price appreciation, we believe that the market continues to underestimate yields by not fully pricing in how quickly par recoveries may be achieved. An investment in Rite Aid bonds was also profitable during the quarter. Rite Aid is the third largest drugstore chain in the country, which, a few years ago purchased the U.S. operations of Jean Coutu, a Canadian pharmacy chain. The significant challenges of integrating a large acquisition made with considerable leverage at a time when the economy was in freefall created a near perfect storm and the entire capital structure sold off significantly. Last fall new management was brought in to oversee this integration and improve operating performance. Since their arrival, cash management has strengthened, expenses are decreasing, margins are improving, and the acquired stores are performing better. Rite Aid has also refinanced its balance sheet which has served to push the next maturity out for several years giving them adequate time to fix the business operations. These bonds traded up significantly and we have reduced our position. During Q2, we built a position in E*Trade bonds. E*Trade operates 2 primary businesses, an online brokerage and a bank. While the brokerage side of the company was performing well, E*Trade Bank was struggling to remain well-capitalized due to its mortgage portfolio. Despite this concern, we found the bonds attractive for several reasons. First, we believed the size of the bank’s capital hole to be manageable and small relative to the Company’s true enterprise value. Second, all parties involved including management, the financial sponsor, bondholders and most importantly its primary regulator were incentivized to ensure the Company remained a going concern. Third, we did not believe E*Trade had an imminent liquidity situation, especially as its brokerage business continued to thrive. Finally, we found the event-driven nature of the situation with an identifiable, near-term positive catalyst very attractive. On June 17th, E*Trade announced a capital plan that included a large debt-for-equity exchange and equity offering to satisfy regulators and solidify its capital base at both E*Trade Bank and the parent, driving bond prices across the capital structure significantly higher. Consequently, we sold our bonds that will not be exchangeable into equity. We also participated in the Debtor-In-Possession (DIP) financing for General Growth Properties (GGP) and made profitable investments in several parts of the capital structure. GGP filed for bankruptcy with an agreement to receive DIP financing from its largest shareholder on what can only be described as egregious terms. The Company and their advisors reportedly had difficulty finding more attractive DIP terms. However, public disclosure of the original DIP proposal resulted in a two week competitive bidding process. In the end our group prevailed with a creative structure that provides us significant coverage, a good base case rate of return, and some interesting optionality. After the bankruptcy filing, we invested in bonds and bank debt of various GGP entities. During the quarter the entire capital structure traded up significantly and we reduced some exposure. The fund begins Q3 with a 10% exposure to Residential Mortgage Backed Securities (RMBS). This portfolio was also profitable for the quarter. We added to our mortgage position in March and through April. The prices of RMBS securities have risen substantially to levels where we are no longer adding aggressively but continue to maintain our position. We believe that despite tepid signs of stabilization, the housing and mortgage markets remain under significant stress and we expect there to be continued attractive opportunities in the space. However, we were positively surprised by the amount of principal repayments in our portfolio. Additionally, as the commercial real estate and consumer sectors continue to deteriorate, we have been preparing ourselves to take advantage of what are likely to be very attractive distressed opportunities in those structured credit markets. Our sovereign CDS position was the biggest detractor for the quarter on a mark to market basis. Notwithstanding the IMF and EU bailouts of the Baltics, spreads tightened throughout Q2. We expect the credit profile of European sovereign governments to continue to deteriorate and accordingly we feel that owning protection at current levels offers a compelling risk/reward opportunity. We still believe this credit cycle will take several years to resolve. First, we expect that commercial real estate is still in the very early stages of a prolonged downturn. The performance of most property types continues to be stressed. As debt on properties matures, we expect that repayment will be unlikely in many cases. Therefore, debt will need to be rescheduled or restructured. The size of this opportunity is very large and we believe that our capital will potentially be able to generate excellent returns in this space. Second, corporate debt maturities will be very heavy in the next three years. Similarly, some percentage of this debt will not be repaid and will need to be restructured. We are already observing higher default rates in Q2. Several large companies such as Extended Stay, Six Flags, General Motors, and General Growth Properties recently filed for bankruptcy and we anticipate this trend will continue. We increased our equities exposure slightly in Q2 by adding selectively to positions such as Dell and Humana. At its lows in March, Dell was an $8 stock with roughly $4 in net cash per share. Based upon an aggressive cost-cutting program, we believed that the worst case EPS for 2009 would be higher than $1 which provided us with a large margin of safety on the investment. Our enthusiasm for the name was bolstered by the potential for a corporate hardware upgrade cycle with the launch of Microsoft’s new operating system this fall. Dell reported a strong first quarter and the stock traded up in June as the magnitude of the costcutting activities became evident to the street. We also believe that our positions in the managed care sector represent compelling opportunities given the fears surrounding the new administration's potential healthcare reform policies. In our opinion the healthcare insurers will be key participants in the reform, and while these companies will clearly be impacted, the situation will not be nearly as dire as their stock prices reflected in March. The reinsurance sector also remains a significant part of the equity book. At the start of Q2, reinsurers were, on average, trading at a greater than 15% discount to Q1 book value. With average leverage of approximately 3x and significantly more conservative investment portfolios than other financial stocks, this discount seems unwarranted. Additionally, given the stresses on insurance industry balance sheets in 2008, as well as the inability to access capital markets, prices for hurricane protection have increased materially this year. In light of this, we helped capitalize a reinsurance sidecar this quarter, covering Florida wind exposure. We continue to run a well hedged portfolio in Asia. We grew our allocation to Tier 1 and Tier 2 hybrid bank paper of a small group of Asian and Australian banks during the first two months of the quarter and these positions contributed meaningful profits. We also benefited from our exposure to leveraged loans in the region and participated in a few recapitalization transactions in Australia that performed well. Although we decreased our credit exposure during the last few weeks of the quarter, we are hopeful that we will get another opportunity during the second half of the year as foreign banks, particularly in Australia, will be focused on reducing their exposure to highly levered entities. Several years ago we made the decision to empower a number of portfolio managers – primarily in the equity area – to allocate silos of capital to distinct industries subject to specific risk controls. This approach had some success at the outset but never fully met our expectations – both in terms of performance and the organization. In the summer of 2007 we decided to downsize our equity business and further build up our credit group. Our goal was to restructure the investment process to reflect a single pool of opportunistic capital without any specified industry or strategy constraints. As a result of the changes that took place, we believe our investment process is currently operating at a significantly higher level than it has over the past several years and that 2009 year-to-date performance reflects our improved agility. Our longevity and successful 21 year track record reflects our institutional approach to management and diligent investment process. For the majority of our history, we have managed money as a single pool of capital with dollars flowing to the best ideas with a focus on event-driven equity and credit situations. During the last credit cycle, our ability to deploy significant amounts of capital in a timely manner while conducting rigorous due diligence resulted in some excellent investment opportunities. Similarly, we anticipate an increase in the number of businesses experiencing financial stress, and we are poised to act as an alternative provider of capital for these companies by participating in DIPS and other rescue financings. The team remains committed to pursuing investment management with rigor and discipline. The primary goal of the Firm continues to be producing uncorrelated returns across different securities, industries, and geographies. As always, your thoughts and comments are welcome. Please feel free to contact Jamie Parrot at (212) 583-4088/ jparrot@perrycap.com or Harlan Saroken at (212) 583-4059/ hsaroken@perrycap.com to further discuss any of these developments. Past performance is not a guarantee of future results. There can be no assurance that these or comparable returns will be achieved by Perry Partners’ investments, either individually or in the aggregate. All returns shown above reflect the reinvestment of dividends and interest and the deduction of all fees and expenses. Although we believe that the performance goals set out in this letter are realistic, it is possible that they will not be achieved and that you could even lose a substantial portion of your investment. The information contained in this letter represents neither an offer to sell nor a solicitation of an offer to buy any securities. Securities in this fund will only be offered through a current offering memorandum and appropriate subscription documents. Copies of the offering memorandum may be obtained from Jamie Parrot (jparrot@perrycap.com) or Harlan Saroken (hsaroken@perrycap.com) in our New York office and will be made available upon request. Offers will not be made in any jurisdiction in which the making of an offer or the acceptance thereof would not be in compliance with the laws of such jurisdiction. Investors should read the Confidential Private Offering Memorandum carefully, especially the “Risk Factors” section, before making a decision to invest in Perry Partners. Additional information is available through our password protected website (www.perrycap.com). June 30, 2009 Estimate Exposure Report Non-Side Pocket Composite MTD Performance QTD Performance YTD Performance Performance Attribution by Strategy Equities North America Latin America / Other Europe Asia North America Latin America / Other Europe Asia North America Latin America / Other Europe Asia North America Latin America / Other Europe Asia 1.53% EST 9.61% EST 9.51% EST Total Fund Composite 1.25% EST 8.55% EST 7.71% EST MTD 0.32% 0.01% 0.02% 0.05% 0.40% 0.82% 0.01% 0.01% 0.16% 1.00% 0.09% -0.04% -0.30% 0.02% -0.23% 0.22% 0.00% -0.07% 0.09% 0.24% -0.06% -0.10% 1.25% S&P 500 (Total Return) 0.20% 15.93% 3.16% QTD 0.57% -0.10% 0.02% -0.24% 0.25% 10.35% 0.03% 0.13% 0.44% 10.95% 0.08% -0.09% -2.09% -0.31% -2.41% 0.41% 0.00% -0.06% 0.15% 0.50% -0.02% -0.72% 8.55% Barclays HY Credit Index 2.86% 23.07% 30.43% YTD -0.43% -0.09% 0.07% -0.33% -0.78% 11.07% 0.03% 0.13% 0.50% 11.73% -0.25% -0.09% -1.99% -0.28% -2.61% -0.08% -0.13% -0.01% 0.11% -0.11% -0.22% -0.30% 7.71% Credit Credit Derivatives Private/Real Estate Legacy Sidepocket Global Macro Total Performance Attribution Performance attribution relates to the total fund composite return Portfolio Exposure by Strategy (as a % of Capital) Equities North America Latin America / Other Europe Asia North America Latin America / Other Europe Asia North America Latin America / Other Europe Asia North America Latin America / Other Europe Asia Long 18% 0% 0% 3% 21% 35% 0% 1% 4% 40% 1% 0% 1% 0% 2% ** 8% 1% 2% 1% 12% 5% 0% 80% $1,533 EST $6,648 EST 18.24% -28.47% Short -11% 0% 0% -3% -14% -1% 0% 0% 0% -1% -2% 0% -55% -7% -64% ** -1% 0% 0% 0% -1% 0% 0% -80% Number of Strategies* 20 0 2 8 30 27 1 2 4 34 4 1 4 5 14 12 2 2 2 18 Credit Credit Derivatives Private/Real Estate Legacy Sidepocket Global Macro*** Total Portfolio Exposure**** Fund Capital (in millions) Firmwide Capital (in millions) Top Exposure Top 5 Long Positions (as a % of Capital) Top 5 Short Positions (as a % of Capital) 2 98 The fund maintains a 11% position in Treasury money market funds which it considers to be cash & cash equivalents and are therefore excluded from the above analysis. For purposes of this report, long equity options are valued off of premium, short equity options at delta adjusted notional value and option combinations, where the exposure is limited to the difference in strike prices, are adjusted to reflect the net delta exposure. * The strategy count includes only those strategies that are at least 15 basis points of the portfolio. ** Please note this is a non risk-adjusted notionalized number which costs the fund approximately $10 million annually to maintain. In addition, this report does not reflect the market value of those positions in which the firm is both the buyer and seller of protection on the same reference obligation even if such positions are held at different counterparties. *** Includes net option premiums at risk on currency hedges for the following currencies: Swiss Franc, Korean Won, Japanese Yen, and Taiwanese Dollar. The net delta adjusted short currency position represents a notional 3% of capital. **** In addition to the above, the firm hedges exposures to certain macro-economic related risks. These include, but may not be limited to, fixed income products and currencies. These positions augment our portfolio hedges and add diversification benefits to the overall firm.

August 29, 2009

Fairholme's Bruce Berkowitz Speaks with Steve Forbes (video)

One of the top-performing mutual fund managers of the past decade, Bruce Berkowitz of The Fairholme Fund (FAIRX), recently sat down with Steve Forbes for an interview that's worth watching. Berkowitz highlights key tenets of his investment philosophy and discusses several holdings of The Fairholme Fund, including Pfizer (PFE) and St. Joe (JOE).

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August 24, 2009

Barron's on Sears: Washed Out

A Barron's article on Sears Holdings (SHLD) is getting quite a bit of attention among investors, with opinions diverging widely on the future of Sears as a company and an investment. Call us incorrigible, but we would not bet against Lampert, despite the obvious challenges facing the retailer.


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August 23, 2009

Ori Eyal's Latest Letter to Investors

We introduced up-and-coming value investor Ori Eyal of Emerging Value Capital Management on this blog a few months ago. Ori has beaten the market indices with a conservative approach since starting his fund. Here is his latest letter to investors.

Ori Eyal's July 2009 Letter to Investors in Emerging Value Capital Management

Emerging Value Capital Management, LLC July 2009 letter to investors 152 West 57th Street Floor 46 New York, NY, 10019 Tel1: 312-363-8599 Tel2: 212-277-5607 Fax: 212-974-1850 Dear Partners and Shareholders, Following is our tenth monthly letter to investors. As always, I am happy to speak with partners (and potential new partners) so please do not hesitate to call me with any questions, thoughts or comments. Fund Performance: During July 2009, EVCM Fund returned an estimated +5.3% (net to investors). During this same time period, the S&P500 (SPY) returned approximately +7.5%, and the MSCI All Country World Index (ACWI) returned approximately +9.4%. Since inception (10/15/2008), EVCM Fund returned an estimated +27.8% (net to investors). During this same time period, the S&P500 (SPY) declined approximately -1.0%, and the MSCI All Country World Index (ACWI) returned approximately +6.5%. The stock market rally continued in full force in July. EVCM fund had a nice return, but lagged the markets due to our defensive positioning. We remain very defensively positioned with lots of cash and bonds, high quality stocks, a few shorts and hedges, and disciplined position sizes. When stock markets decline again (and sooner or later they will) our risk aversion should help protect our capital. As before, I caution investors not to focus on monthly returns (monthly results are mostly random and should not be extrapolated). Rather, I hope you will evaluate my performance over a multiyear period. July 2009 EVCM – Net to Investors S&P500 (SPY) MSCI All Country World Index (ACWI) +5.3% +7.5% +9.4% 2009 YTD +22.3% +9.5% +16.4% Since Inception (10/15/2008) +27.8% -1.0% +6.5% *Please note that individual investor net returns will vary due to the timing of one's investment. The results reported above are unaudited estimates and may be subject to change. Page 1 / 4 Value of $1000 invested at inception: EVCM Fund $1,400 $1,300 $1,200 $1,100 $1,000 $900 $800 $700 SPY ACWI 09 09 09 09 09 /20 /20 /20 /20 1/ 2 0 8/ 2 0 1/ 2 0 0/ 2 0 1/ 2 0 09 0/ 2 0 7/3 10 / 14 10 / 31 11 / 30 12 / 31 1/3 2/2 3/3 4/3 5/3 Stock market rally continues: The stock market rally continued in full force in July. For both the economy and for individual companies, anything less than a terrible news report was viewed as a bullish sign. Many corporations reported something along the lines of: “the rate of decline is slowing”. Dusting off my old college calculus book, I figured out this statement seems to mean that the second derivative of sales with respect to time is positive. But why stop at the second derivative? I suspect it is only a matter of time before we go to the third derivative of sales and some company reports the “great news” that: “the rate of the rate of decline is slowing”. ☺ Like with most other rallies, there is a “story” being told to justify the bullishness. The current story is that the crisis of 2008 has caused corporations to dramatically reduce their expenses and employee counts so that they are now ultra lean and efficient and will post great results once the economy recovers. While this story may have a kernel of truth to it, it makes me wonder how inefficiently these corporations must have been running prior to 2008. Reducing unnecessary costs and increasing operational efficiency is part of the ongoing job of every manager. It should not be undertaken only in response to a crisis. As far as I can tell both the macroeconomic and company specific data remain weak. At best we can say that the economy and corporate results are, on average, less weak than we expected. Stock prices ultimately follow corporate earnings and it is difficult to see corporate earnings increasing significantly given the strong macro economic head winds we still face. While I am continuing to see some attractive investment opportunities, our overall portfolio positioning remains defensive and conservative. I am unwilling to risk our capital by chasing this market rally. Just a few months ago it seemed like there was no limit to how low stocks could go. Every day was a new opportunity to sell and no “buy” decision went unpunished. It was difficult to imagine what would break the cycle and cause stocks to rise again. A few months have passed and all is Page 2 / 4 6/3 1/ 2 0 09 08 08 08 08 forgotten. Every day is a new opportunity to buy and stocks just keep going higher. This positive sentiment can and will turn on a dime. I don’t know when or what the catalyst will be, but I know that stocks are now pricing in a fairly rosy recovery and could decline significantly if investor sentiment shifts from greed back to fear again. Analysis of results to date: EVCM Fund has completed 10 months of operation. While this is far too short a time frame from which to draw any firm conclusions, I believe that a brief analysis of our results to date is warranted. Since EVCM funds inception, we have outperformed our benchmarks by a wide margin. Looking at the chart above and the table below, you will notice that most of our outperformance has come in months where the markets declined (Oct 2008, Nov 2008, Jan 2009). We usually lagged behind the markets on strong up months (Mar 2009, Apr 2009, and July 2009). This is exactly how it should be. Our investment process is focused first and foremost on capital protection and risk management. We invest conservatively and constantly worry about how not to lose money. In the future, you should expect this pattern to continue. We are likely to lag the market in up months (hopefully by only a small margin) and we will attempt to avoid large declines in down months. The end result over a long term market cycle should (we hope) lead to significant outperformance verses our benchmarks. Investment Analysis: Morgan Stanley Emerging Markets Domestic Debt Fund: The Morgan Stanley Emerging Markets Domestic Debt Fund (EDD) is a “global macro” investment that EVCM fund holds. EDD is a closed end investment fund that mostly holds government bonds of emerging market countries. The fund currently trades at a 16% discount to the net value of its assets (NAV), has little leverage (about 20% - 25% leverage) has a dividend yield of 7.5% and an internal yield to maturity of over 10%. It is a low-risk way to diversify out of the US dollar while earning a nice yield. EDD currently has an overweight in Mexico, Brazil, Turkey, and Indonesia government bonds. Default risk for these bonds is low since governments rarely default on local currency bonds (they can always print more local currency). The average duration for the portfolio is 4.25 years and the portfolio is positioned to be more or less interest rate neutral. The government bonds that EDD holds are mostly very liquid, with small bid/ask spreads, so calculated NAV for EDD is a reliable number. Clearly, owning EDD is a big bet against the US dollar and the Euro. As I have discussed before the financial situation of the US (and also Europe) is not good with government debt reaching records levels not seen since World War II. The US dollar rallied in 2008 and early 2009 as investors perceived it to be a safe haven. But with financial markets slowly returning to normal, the long term economic problems of the US and Europe will likely continue to pressure down the value of their currencies. Page 3 / 4 EDD’s assets yield over 10% (yield to maturity). It holds about $1.25B worth of government bonds. I estimate that annual operating costs + interest costs = $25M. So annual yield is about: $1.25B X 10% - $25M = $100M. Dividing $100M by 73M EDD shares outstanding gives us an internal yield of about $1.37 per EDD share. The Current share price is $13.25 so EDD’s internal annual yield is over 10%. Some of this yield is being kept by the fund to grow its NAV, so the funds dividend yield is only 7.5%. The 16% discount to NAV that EDD trades at is a bonus. It magnifies our yield and also provides downside protection. I do not know if or when this discount will close, but in general, bond funds (unlike stock funds) should trade at narrow discounts to NAV. I think that owning this fund is a good alternative to holding non US Dollar cash. Instead of holding a basket of foreign currencies and getting almost zero income, we can hold these intermediate term fixed rate government bonds. The 16% discount to NAV and the fairly high yield make this a better holding than a basket of cash. Conclusions: EVCM Fund remains conservatively positioned with capital preservation being our top priority. We continue to search for and find mispriced investment opportunities that offer a compelling risk reward balance. At EVCM, we always remember that many of you (including myself) have a large part of your life savings invested in the fund. We strive to treat our partners and shareholders the way we would like to be treated were our positions reversed. Please feel free to share this letter with prospective new partners and with other interested investors. Also, thank you for the referrals! Sincerely Yours, Ori Eyal Portfolio Manager Disclosure: This document does not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to purchase any security or investment product. Any such offer or solicitation may only be made by means of delivery of an approved confidential offering memorandum. Past results are no guarantee of future results and no representation is made that an investor will or is likely to achieve results similar to those shown. All investments involve risk including the loss of principal. An investment in the Fund may be deemed speculative and is not intended as a complete investment program. It is designed only for sophisticated persons who are able to bear the risk of the substantial impairment or loss of their investment in the Fund. The Fund is designed for investors who do not require regular current income and who can accept a certain degree of risk in their investments. Prospective investors should carefully consider the risk factors specified in the Offering Memorandum before making a decision to invest in the Fund. Page 4 / 4

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August 21, 2009

Highlight: Exclusive Interview with Brian Bares in Portfolio Manager's Review

Brian Bares of Austin, Texas-based Bares Capital Management has outperformed the market indices by wide margins since inception of his firm in 2000.

Last week, we conducted an exclusive interview with Brian, and it’s our pleasure to bring you an excerpt here. The full interview is published in the new issue of Portfolio Manager's Review, the acclaimed monthly investment idea publication of The Manual of Ideas [sample] [subscribe].

MOI: Since starting your firm nearly ten years ago, you have focused on investing in small public companies. What prompted this focus, and has your approach changed at all in light of the fact that many large companies have looked inefficiently priced recently?

Brian Bares: There are really two reasons for our focus on small companies. The first is that small companies are more likely to be inefficiently priced. Our investment process mandates a comprehensive understanding of our portfolio companies. It is much more likely that we can profit from this understanding in small caps, where information scarcity allows for opportunity. We also cap assets to maintain our focus on small companies. Our competitors have a difficult time running a strategy like ours because success creates profit motives that tend to move them up the market cap spectrum or into excessively diversified portfolios in order to accommodate a larger asset base.

The second reason is structural. Our firm manages money in replicated separate accounts, and our relationships are largely direct with foundation and endowment clients. These clients employ many specialist managers in a number of different niche areas. They understand that our value to them is our area of competence — small-company common stocks. And they pay for our best ideas as we typically hold between 10 and 20 positions. Our clients allow us to do this because they have other managers looking at mid- and large-caps, international, commodities, real estate, etc. So we have really absolved ourselves of making many difficult macro and asset allocation decisions. Instead, we simply hunker down and focus on our little corner of the market. Our success is judged against small company benchmarks. The only time we think about what is happening with large-caps, international stocks, and other asset classes is when factors affecting these could affect the underlying business performance of the companies we own.

MOI: High returns on capital are generally of little value if they can’t be replicated with reinvested capital for a long period of time. Many businesses with apparent sustainable competitive advantage — such as Polaroid or The New York Times — actually had no such advantage. How do you determine the sustainability of competitive advantage?

Bares: That is a great point, and one that debunks multi-factor screening as a useful tool, in my opinion. A screen for high returns on invested capital may provide you with a list of companies that did well in the past, but tells you nothing about what will happen going forward. And for the going concern, value is 100% driven by what happens in the future. Our process is shaped by the premise that stock returns will follow the value created by internal business compounding over time, and that above average-business compounding will inevitably decline through competitive forces absent a durable advantage. Not to beat a dead horse, but this is why we spend so much time on the qualitative issues that influence internal compounding.

As you illustrate, competitive advantage is most often temporary. Even though we think of ourselves as long-term investors, we have the luxury of a liquid portfolio. This allows us to be decisive and sell out of a position if we perceive deterioration in a company’s competitive position.

To determine the sustainability of a company’s advantage, we must look at all of the factors that make the company unique, and understand how their positioning fits within their industry. We walk through a Porter’s “five forces” analysis of each of our ideas before they make it into the portfolio. We try to assess management’s competitive strategy. Each idea is very different; some companies have natural network effects that create huge barriers to entry, some have IP or trade secret protections, some lock-in their customers through complexity and contracts, some have locked-in superior distribution, and so on. We’re not perfect in our analysis, but we usually have a good handle on the competitive threats facing our businesses.

In the case of The New York Times, their historical advantage was real, but certainly not permanent. And this may be presumptuous, but we feel like we would have sold Polaroid long before the mass adoption of digital photography had we been investors. We have gotten it wrong in our portfolio before, and we will again. The keys for us are to get it right a lot more than we get it wrong — which in our opinion is easier with a concentrated portfolio — and to be decisive in our selling when we recognize deterioration in competitive position. I think our track record over the last nine years illustrates above-average execution in these two areas.

MOI: What books have you read in recent years that have stood out as valuable additions to your investment library?

Bares: I think all investors would be well served to read Pat Dorsey’s The Little Book that Builds Wealth. I also liked Creating Shareholder Value by Alfred Rappaport.

My favorite reads are usually business biographies. I just finished Stacy Perman’s In-n-Out Burger, A Behind the Counter Look at the Fast Food Chain That Breaks All the Rules. I loved it. It shows what kind of personality, commitment, intelligence, and drive it takes to create an enduring business. I think reading like this helps us in our identification of individuals and business models with the right recipe to grow meaningfully larger.

MOI: What is the single biggest mistake that keeps investors from reaching their goals?

Bares: My experience tells me that individual investors run into the most trouble...

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August 15, 2009

Dan Loeb's Book Recommendations

Dan Loeb of Third Point recommended the following books in a speech in 2009:

Watch the presentation in which Loeb recommended the above books.

Guy Spier's Book Recommendations

In an interview with Portfolio Manager's Review, Guy Spier, founder of Aquamarine Capital Management, shared the following on some of his favorite books in recent years:

"I sent Alice Schroeder’s book out to a bunch of investors. I think that it is a very valuable book to read. I know that it has been controversial, but setting that aside, I think that Alice probes into aspects of Warren Buffet’s mind and psyche to reveal more of his personality with all of the foibles of the human being behind Warren Buffett.

For those of us that are big Buffett fans, that is a huge advantage. It helped me to understand why I am different than Warren Buffett. I think it is a valuable read in that regard. It helps to place his mind in the center of the decisions he has made. The book lets you look at the kind of emotional life that Buffett had growing up. I do not think his phenomenal track record could have come about without that emotional makeup.

There are three books that I have read not so long ago on complexity theory. I think that they are extremely valuable. One is by John Gribbin.  Even though I studied economics and I felt I had a good grasp of the kind of economics taught academically, I feel that the study of complexity theory as applied to the global economy is actually a much better model for understanding how the global economy evolves.

One of the books is by Benoit Mandelbrot who is famous for the Mandelbrot set. He also wrote a book about the fractal nature of financial markets. Mandelbrot is obviously a very modest guy because his fractal approach to financial markets predicts that sooner or later something like what happened over the last 18 months was going to happen. Unlike other commentators, who get in front of the TV cameras and say “I told you so,” he has not done that. He is a true scientist.

Lastly, an investor of mine gave me one of the two books by Atul Gawande who is focused on the very small things that make hospitals better. One of the books is actually called Better. The other book is called Complications. Atul Gawande gives a sense of how you can be extremely knowledgeable and totally focused on the right outcomes and still fail by a wide margin to get close to the ideal that you would like. Of course, this has massive lessons for investors.

I recently took up bridge, so I have been reading a lot of bridge books. I am looking forward to going outside Borsheim’s at the next Berkshire Hathaway meeting and playing bridge with whoever is willing to play me. I don’t think that it is a coincidence that Buffett chose to put an area to play bridge outside of Borsheim’s rather than chess or table tennis or any one of a number of other things. It is not just that Buffett likes bridge. He likes an awful lot of things. I think that he is sending a message, in his inimical way, which is not to force it down anyone’s throat. But by placing an area to play bridge right outside of Borsheim’s, Buffett is saying that bridge is more than just a great game, it is something that has really helped him, I believe, develop his mind. I think it can develop all of our minds in a way which is helpful to investing."

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The Manual of Ideas Interview with Guy Spier, Aquamarine Capital Management

The Manual of Ideas Interview with Guy Spier, July 2009


PORTFOLIO MANAGER’S REVIEW A Monthly Publication of BeyondProxy LLC www.manualofideas.com editor@manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 When asked how he became so successful, Buffett answered: “we read hundreds and hundreds of annual reports every year.” Edited by the Manual of Ideas Research Team “If our efforts can further the goals of our members by giving them a discernible edge over other market participants, we have succeeded.” INFLATION PROTECTION SERIES – PART II: BUSINESSES WITH PRICING POWER AND LOW CAPITAL INTENSITY ► For-Profit Education Firms ► Companies Providing Human Capital Services ► Other Interesting Businesses ► Also Inside: Exclusive Interview with Guy Spier Top Ideas In This Report McGraw-Hill Companies (NYSE: MHP) …………………. p. 36 Princeton Review (Nasdaq: REVU) ……………… p. 40 Sotheby’s (NYSE: BID) …………………… p. 42 Companies mentioned in this issue include: 51job, Acxiom, Administaff, Alliance Data Sys., Ambassadors Group, American Public Education, AMN Healthcare, Apollo Group, ATA, Automatic Data, Barrett Business Services, Bridgepoint Education, Burlington Northern, Capella Education, Career Education, CDI, China Distance Education, China Education, Chinacast Education, ChinaEdu, Coca-Cola Company, COMSYS IT Partners, Corinthian Colleges, Corporate Executive, Cross Country Health, DeVry, Diageo, Dice Holdings, Dr Pepper Snapple, Dun & Bradstreet, Eaton Corp., Eli Lilly & Co., Energizer Holdings, Equifax, Exterran Holdings, Fair Isaac, Foster Wheeler, Franklin Covey, GlaxoSmithKline, Global Payments, GP Strategies, Grand Canyon, H&R Block, Harley-Davidson, Harte-Hanks, Heartland Payment, Heidrick & Struggles, Hershey, Hewitt Associates, infoGROUP, Intuit, ITT Educational Services, Johnson & Johnson, K12, Kelly Services, Kenexa, Kforce, Kimberly-Clark, Korn/Ferry, Learning Tree, Lincoln Educational, Inside: Lorillard, Manpower, McGraw-Hill, Merck, Microsoft, Monster Worldwide, Moody's, MPS Group, New Oriental Education, Noah Education, Nobel Learning, Novartis, Novo Nordisk, On Assignment, Paychex, PepsiCo, Exclusive Interview with Pfizer, Princeton Review, Procter & Gamble, Resources Connection, Guy Spier, founder and CEO Reynolds American, Robert Half International, Sanofi-Aventis, Sotheby's, of Aquamarine Capital Spherion, SPSS, Starbucks, Strayer Education, Taleo, Ticketmaster, Management Total System Services, Travelzoo, TrueBlue, Universal Technical, Valassis Comms, Volt Information, Walt Disney, Washington Post, Watson Wyatt,, and more. Also Inside Editor’s Commentary ……………. p. 4 Interview with Guy Spier ……….. p. 6 For-Profit Education Companies .. p. 46 Human Capital Services Firms … p. 77 Other Interesting Businesses ….. p. 88 About Portfolio Manager’s Review Our goal is to bring you equity investment ideas that are compelling on the basis of value versus price. In our quest for value, we analyze the top holdings of top fund managers. We also use a proprietary screening methodology to identify opportunities that are not yet widely followed by institutional investors. John Mihaljevic, managing editor, is a fund manager, former banker and analyst. He is a member of Value Investors Club, an exclusive community of top money managers, and has won the Club’s prize for best investment idea. John is a trained capital allocator, having studied under Yale chief investment officer David Swensen and served as research assistant to Nobel laureate James Tobin. John holds a BA in Economics, summa cum laude, from Yale and is a CFA charterholder. He resides in New York City with his wife and two kids. With compliments of The Manual of Ideas (profiled companies are underlined) Copyright Warning: It is a violation of federal copyright law to reproduce all or part of this publication for any purpose without the prior written consent of BeyondProxy LLC. The Copyright Act imposes liability of up to $150,000 per issue for such infringement, and violators will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. See inside for subscription information, including having multiple copies sent to you. © 2008-09 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. Exclusive Interview with Guy Spier Guy Spier of Aquamarine Capital is a noted value investor and speaker on investment management. Guy’s willingness to share his insights with fellow value investors reminds us of Buffett’s penchant for sharing his wisdom with those eager to benefit from it. Last November, Guy spoke on global value investing at the Darden Value Investing Conference in Charlottesville, Virginia.1 This past May, he was at the Value Investing Congress in Pasadena, California,2 making a case for global for-profit education providers Estácio (Brazil: ESTC3)3 and Raffles Education (Singapore: E6D).4 Earlier this month, Guy presented at the Value Investing Seminar in Molfetta, Italy, highlighting an opportunity in London Mining (Oslo Axess: LOND).5 His speech was entitled, Navigating Between Fear & Greed Using Checklists.6 On The Investment Process… MOI: Your fund has outperformed the market indices by a wide margin since inception, posting a cumulative net return of 115% from September 1997 through June 2009, compared to cumulative returns of 9% for the Dow Jones Industrial Average, 0% for the S&P 500 Index and -13% for the FT 100. Do you use short-selling or leverage in the portfolio and how concentrated is your fund typically? The trend of the market is up, not down. Shorting stocks puts you against that trend… Guy Spier on short selling: I do not use short selling. The fund has not shorted a stock since the 2002 to 2003 time frame. At that time I did short three stocks, on which I broke even on two and made money on one of them. The experience taught me that I was not going to be using short selling going forward for a slew of reasons. The first is the straightforward logic of the matter. The trend of the market is up, not down. Shorting stocks puts you against that trend and thus makes it more difficult to make money. Other than a time period like the one we’ve gone through, short selling will tend to be a difficult strategy to make money with. Second, the mathematics of shorting – when you short something and it goes down, it becomes a bigger and bigger part of your portfolio, thus creating increasing risk as things go against you, making it an unbalanced and unstable thing to manage. By contrast, when you go long something and it goes against you, it becomes a smaller and smaller proportion of the portfolio, thus reducing its impact on the portfolio. So there is a tendency for long positions to selfstabilize in a certain way – they have a stabilizing effect on the portfolio, whereas short positions have a destabilizing effect on the portfolio. Watch Guy’s speech at http://manualofideas.com/blog/2008/12/tom_russo_and_guy_spier_on_glo.html Read our notes from Guy’s presentation at http://manualofideas.com/blog/2009/05/vic_live_blogging_guy_spier.html The investor relations website of Estácio may be accessed at http://www.estacioparticipacoes.com (English language version available) 4 The investor relations website of Raffles may be accessed at http://www.raffles-education-corporation.com (available in English) 5 The investor relations website of London Mining may be accessed at http://www.londonmining.co.uk/investors.asp 6 Read our notes from Guy’s presentation at http://manualofideas.com/blog/2009/07/guy_spier_live_blogging_the_va.html. To download the full presentation, visit http://www.manualofideas.com/files/content/guy_spier_presentation_2009-07.pdf 2 3 1 © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 This results in two things. First, it means that if you are going to short, you have to make each short position a small proportion of the portfolio. Most of the people I respect who do short make their short positions no more than 1% or 2% of the portfolio, which means that in order to derive advantages from it, you need to short a lot of stocks. The other effect is that you have to be super vigilant. When you have shorts in your portfolio, you have to be watching them all the time, looking for indications of something that will cause the stock to go up on you many multiples and thus eat away much of the value in your portfolio. That is not the way that I want to run money. What I found when I was short the three stocks was that I was doing things, and having to pay attention in ways that I don’t think my brain is wired for. As you know, and many of your readers know, much of investing is finding a way to invest successfully to play the odds which are in tune and in congruence with the way your own nervous system is wired. I think that there are some people out there who have nervous systems that are wired to do shorting very well. I take my hat off to them, but I am not one of those people. I would also add that short selling falls into a category of trade that Nassim Taleb has described very well in Fooled by Randomness. It has been described as picking up pennies in front of a steamroller. There are many trades that appear to be profitable on a cash basis, meaning that one can go for years picking up the pennies, showing an income, while pretending to one’s self, or one’s risk managers, or investors that the risk of a loss on that trade is minimal to zero. The practical reality is that one can go for long periods of time on those trades and can do just fine until a big bath happens that eats away all of the previous profits that were gained. I would argue that short selling is one of those kinds of trades and the big bath is exemplified by the experience that people had in the recent Volkswagen/Porsche pair trade. The price of VW went up many, many, many times and resulted in a huge loss for the people who were in that position, potentially wiping out many years of shorting gains. I see a lot of these kinds of opportunities, and the right thing to do is just to say “no.” I think one of the hard things about these types of trades is that they are extremely attractive. They are dressed up to look extremely sexy for the kinds of people that are thinking about investing in funds like mine. I think that often investment managers consider doing them not because they believe in the trade themselves, but because they know it will be attractive to certain types of investors who perceive the trade as being smart. I think that the best thing to do is walk away from them. Guy Spier on leverage: I was actually levered to 110% of the value of equities, so 10% levered in 1998, as I purchased more securities during the Asian crisis. I was very lucky, because everything worked out for me and I made a little bit more return as a result. Since then, the fund has never been leveraged for a very good reason. Most of the people that you and I know, the readership of your fine publication, will be in trades that will make them money provided they can play out their hands. …short selling falls into a category of trade that… has been described as picking up pennies in front of a steamroller. © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 We know that leverage can prevent you from playing out your hand because exactly the time when markets go into crisis is when your credit gets called. I am aware of funds that had their credit lines pulled at the most inconvenient times and suffered catastrophic losses which would not have been suffered had their credit not been pulled. It is worth saying that except in the case of a very large fund that can arrange for some kind of long-term loan from their broker, the loans tend to be overnight. You get money overnight and the trades can usually be liquidated within a very short period of time. Good investment ideas usually take months, if not years, to play out. I would argue that levering up an investment portfolio, even if it is composed of liquid securities, is a profound mismatch of assets and liabilities. I think that the experience of Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers exemplifies this case. They were borrowing money short-term and the investments they were making were liquid, so from the perspective of the lender they were not bothered because they knew they could force the brokerage firm to liquidate in order to pay their short-term funding. The reality was that the bets that they were making needed time to play out and to the extent that those firms didn’t have the time to let those bets play out, they suffered insolvency, and that is not something that I am about to do for my investors. Guy Spier on concentration: The portfolio was extremely concentrated in that about six positions were as much as 85% of the total value of the fund. I think that part of the reason for my substantial decline in 2008 was the fact that risks that I was not aware of cropped up in the portfolio and impacted some positions substantially. If I were able to go back in time and look at the information I had, I am not sure I would not have owned the things that I owned. However, I think that one of the ways I could have protected my investors from such a substantial decline is to have less concentrated positions. Going forward a 5% position will be a full position. An idea will have to be something absolutely extraordinary to become a 10% position and many positions in the portfolio are currently 2-4%. …leverage can prevent you from playing out your hand because exactly the time when markets go into crisis is when your credit gets called. MOI: When it comes to stock selection, you have talked about the importance of checklists. Why are they so crucial, and what are some of the key items on your checklist? Guy Spier: Those readers who have seen my two or three presentations know that I have talked about checklists. All of these ideas have emerged from conversations with Mohnish Pabrai, who noticed an article by Atul Gawande in The New Yorker with profound implications for investors. I'll share the basic insight that I have had as a result of these conversations: I think that we just have to acknowledge that there are some individuals out there — I think Warren Buffett in the investment world is one, Ajit Jain in the insurance world is another — who have a very particular ability to rationally analyze a situation in spite of crazy things going on in the world. © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 Most of us do not have that specific wiring. In spite of that, we can still improve our decision-making an awful lot by using checklists. The main way that I see it is that the investment world, either by design or by nature — and I think it is a combination of the two — throws up plenty of information that is designed to trigger one of two areas in the brain. One is the threat detection fear mechanism, which throws up a very primeval response that has evolved within us for a very long time. It is one of the oldest parts of our brain — the fight-or-flight response. When we see something that makes us fearful, and we don’t have time to act, analyze and make weighted judgments, we have to decide either to run or to stay. We all know days in the market where that part of an investor’s brain is dominating and in which share prices can move around rather dramatically when compared to what appears to be very small amounts of news. So that is one sort of mode that the markets can be in, which is really the psychological mode of the majority of the participants in the market. Then there is another side, which is irrational exuberance, as Alan Greenspan has described it, where the part of the brain that is being triggered is, as I’ve seen it described in various articles, the pleasure center of the brain. It turns out that the part of the brain we stimulate by the expectation of future profits is not that far away or dissimilar to the part of the brain that is stimulated, or lights up in CAT scans, when cocaine addicts either contemplate or are taking cocaine. These are very powerful centers. Whether it is the fight-or-flight or the expectation of pleasure centers, the effect of both is to short-circuit rationally considered thoughts. They undermine the path of the brain that can make weighted, careful judgments about probabilities and about expectations. My perception is that it is the rational neocortex from which flow the very best investment decisions. Unfortunately, the world in which we operate is a minefield of opportunities to get caught up either by the fight-or-flight or by the pleasure center. So to the extent that somebody will talk about an investment being good when one is trembling with greed – I would not subscribe to that because trembling with greed implies that your greed and pleasure mechanisms in the brain are dominating the rational side. I think that somebody like Warren Buffett is naturally wired not to be in either of those two extremes and spends his time in the happy middle. I think that what the rest of us human beings can do to train ourselves to be in that happy middle is use checklists. A checklist pulls us away from the kinds of actions that we would take if we were in either fight-or-flight or greed modes. So that is the basis for checklists. The example I have given in talks is an airplane that is crashing. There is no question that checklists have been extremely helpful in reducing airplane accident rates. What it does is it brings the brain back to the place where one can make rational decisions. A checklist pulls us away from the kinds of actions that we would take if we were in either fight-or-flight or greed modes. © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 MOI: What advice would you give other investors on building an effective checklist? Is it primarily a product of past investment experience, i.e., mistakes — and if so, how does one differentiate between mistakes that should go on the checklist versus others that are simply unavoidable? Guy Spier: Obviously, in terms of building checklists, there is no question that the place to go is past mistakes. Not only one’s own past mistakes, but also to look at other investors’ past mistakes and see what those mistakes were. It seems to me, and it is a process that I am still going through, that the more specific the checklist item is the better. I can give an example of an investment that I made where the CEO of the corporation was going through a divorce — a long, protracted and bitter divorce. In retrospect, when I look at what went wrong in that investment, I can see very clearly that the fact that he was going through this divorce meant that the CEO was much less able to focus both on the needs of the business and on capital allocation decisions. His whole investment, in fact, would have gone to his former wife if she had won the lawsuit. The whole company would not have belonged to him. So his emotional ties to the company were predicated on the outcome of the court case. His desire to make money for the company’s shareholders would have been hugely diminished if his wife had ended up controlling the company. So one of the items in my checklist is whether the CEO is going through major divorce proceedings, in which case I would tend to weigh that very heavily. To give an example of checklist items that don’t come from individual or personal mistakes is the example of Coca-Cola and its ownership by Berkshire Hathaway. There was a period earlier this decade when Coca-Cola was trading at a multiple which was as high as 40 to 45 times earnings. We all know that Warren Buffett did not sell. I think that there is at least one statement in the public domain where he said that if given the chance to revisit that decision, he would have sold Coca-Cola. I ask myself to what extent he was unable to make that choice at the time and execute a sale because he had already made public statements in the annual reports and elsewhere that Coca-Cola was an inevitable and permanent holding of Berkshire Hathaway. Making such a public statement is a very powerful driver of commitment consistency bias, which may have affected his ability to make rational decisions. So what would go on the list? You would ask yourself the question, “Have I made public statements about this?” Obviously, the note to self is, don’t make public statements about positions you own that will predispose you towards owning them or not owning them or being able to sell them or not. There is another example from Berkshire Hathaway, which is the acquisition of Cort Furniture, which did not turn out to be the phenomenal acquisition that some commentators suggested it was. It seems that one of the reasons is that Cort was in the business of renting furniture to people who had a temporary need. Cort benefited dramatically from the Internet bubble in which many companies were setting up offices that needed to be furnished rather quickly and had large amounts of money to spend. In the aftermath of the Internet bubble, the demand from that portion of the market was extremely attenuated and Cort’s earnings power was diminished significantly. © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 …in terms of building checklists, there is no question that the place to go is past mistakes. …checklists are not wish lists. The basic insight that seems to have not been applied in the Cort acquisition, which has gone onto my checklist, would be, “Am I investing in an industry or a company that is benefiting from another industry that has just experienced a dramatic boom?” Another way of saying the same thing would be, “Am I investing while looking in the rear view mirror rather than looking at the road ahead?” Whether they are yours or somebody else’s, I think that mistakes are the most fruitful place to look for checklist items. It is important to note that checklists are not wish lists. Obviously, we are looking for certain kinds of businesses and certain types of investment. That is what we are navigating for. The checklists are very specific items that are designed to bring our brains away from the influence of greed and fear. I would argue that I am not sure a mistake that is unavoidable is a “mistake” in terms of your question. I think that there are so many ways where one can go wrong. In retrospect we can see what we should have known. It is hard to control for the unknowable, because it is by definition unknown. The more one can throw onto an investment checklist, the better. It is worth pointing out that no investment is going to pass every single investment checklist item. What the investment checklist will do is to throw up the issues that one should be focused on. Then an investor can try to weigh them to decide if they negate the benefits of the investment or not. One of the things that the checklist has done for me is to bring up the basic question: “Are we stretching to make the investment?” In this way investing is very similar to golf. In golf, one never hits a good shot if one is stretching or pushing oneself. The best golf shots come when we are acting well within our capacity. To that extent, a term that I do not think should apply to investing is, “I spent time getting comfortable.” The investment should leap out to you. If you are trying to get comfortable with something or it takes too long for you to get comfortable with it, then it is probably not a good investment. You shouldn’t have to get comfortable. That implies to me that I would be stretching. …no investment is going to pass every single investment checklist item. What the investment checklist will do is to throw up issues that one should focus on MOI: What is the single biggest mistake that keeps investors from reaching their goals? Guy Spier: The biggest mistake is when we as investors stop thinking like principals. I think that when we think as principals, when we apply Ben Graham’s maxim that we should treat every equity security as part ownership in a business and think like business owners, we have the right perspective. Most of the answers flow from having that perspective. While thinking like that is not easy, and most of the time the answers are not to invest and to do nothing, the kind of decision-making that flows from that perspective tends to be good investment decision-making. I’ll just give you examples from my own life and from people close to me of the ways in which that perspective can be deformed by the environment and circumstances. It can be deformed by having the wrong investors — investors who see you, the investment manager, as a proxy for their desires. © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 I had an experience with an investor who was admonishing me for holding too high much cash. The investor claimed that they were not paying me to hold cash balances. Well, that created a pressure on me to get fully invested. The person making the investment wanted me to show that cash was being put to work. I was responding to the situation rather than to the logical and rational dictates of having a prudent amount of cash. I was responding to the actual demand of the client. To the extent that I did respond to that pressure, I was acting less like a principal and more like somebody that was putting together a marketing story. In another example, to the extent that I have been associated with the for-profit education industry, I have received questions as to why I don’t market my fund as a global education fund. Again, if I were to do so, I would no longer be acting as a principal trying to maximize the return on investment for my shareholders, but I would be seeking to market the fund by appealing to a particular niche audience. That could result in some substantial misallocations of capital. I think that this mistake comes in varied forms and it influences all of us. When we talk about creating the best environment for making investment decisions — a lot of that entails investing within the right structure, the right incentive structure. It also comes from having the right investors as partners and aggressively moving away from and not engaging with people who show themselves to be the wrong type of partner because they are focused on the wrong thing. I think that everything falls from having a principal’s perspective. MOI: How do you generate investment ideas? … whenever something in Seth Klarman’s portfolio is trading below the price that he paid for it, it is worthy looking at. Guy Spier: My answer is “all of the above.” The nature of a good investment idea is that it puts together new facts in old ways or old facts in new ways. You need to have the mental flexibility and creative ability to see something new and see why it fits together in a certain way. I think that the answer in my case is to look at everything, to do everything in a certain way, and to reserve a lot of time for thinking. I read other managers’ letters. I look at the positions they own. The lists of portfolio securities that other managers own are very useful because it means the investment has already passed a very important filter. I think that whenever something in Seth Klarman’s portfolio is trading below the price that he paid for it, it is worthy of looking at, and at the same time, it performs another function. To get better at investing you want to study the moves of the masters. I also read a number of industry publications. The publications vary at any time depending on the particular industries that I am interested in and what subscriptions I have decided to subscribe to. One subscription that I have right now is to The Nilson Report on the credit card industry. Based on my interest in following the U.S. banking sector I recently subscribed to The American Banker. I also recently subscribed to The Oil and Gas Journal. These are all interesting journals that don’t necessarily throw up investment ideas per se, but they throw up background information. While a lot of this information is available on the web, it is very nice to look at it in the form of a publication. www.manualofideas.com © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. July 31, 2009 So, wide reading, including the daily newspapers, is important. I like to screen for companies, but increasingly I have found that your service and other people present me with screens that perhaps provide a shortcut. Having said that, it is also worth saying that I don’t think there is any shortage of ideas for anyone who is interested in investing. It doesn’t take a moment of browsing on the Internet before you have 30 ideas to look at. The real question is, as I look at the ideas, why am I discarding them and what personal biases am I engaging in as I discard them? I think something I have seen in a number of portfolios, including my own, is that the contents of the portfolio are a reflection of the particular biases of the person running the portfolio. To the extent that those biases or the model of the world that person has is faulty, it can lead to either phenomenal returns if the stars are aligned or it can lead to very bad returns if the stars do not align. As I look at other people’s portfolios, I look to understand what their biases are and what particular chinks in their armor they may have. They may have a predilection for small-cap stocks or they may have a predilection for niche companies with niche ideas. Ultimately, what I can say for myself, I have had a bias towards low-capital invested, high-ROE businesses. In general, that is a bias that has probably been very productive. However, there are environments, particularly the one that we have just been through over the past 18 months, where that has probably hurt the portfolio more than it has helped the portfolio. So the way in which we go about generating ideas is obviously both important and critical and I think that ultimately it is a journey to explore our own personal biases. On Global For-Profit Education… MOI: Please share with us your thesis on global for-profit education. Which countries are particularly good places to invest in this growing trend? Guy Spier: The thesis on the global for-profit education business is a very simple one. We have an educational infrastructure whose legacy was the industrial revolution. This has been valid whether we talk about China, Brazil, the United States, or Western Europe. The basic outlook was that the vast majority of people being educated would go to work in factories. They didn’t need more than a certain level of education. These educational systems would then skim off the very best who would go off to be lawyers, doctors, and accountants – white-collar suited pen pushers. The IT and post-industrial revolution that we have been through and continue to go through over the last 30 years has been one in which the need for relatively low skill levels has attenuated and the need for people with high skill levels has grown dramatically. Whether it is people who can do research into biochemistry and biotechnology or whether it is people who are developing gaming software for the gaming industry. Obviously the people who design computer chips or computer programmers need to achieve a certain skill level. … the need for relatively low skill levels has attenuated and the need for people with high skill levels has grown dramatically. © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 In every growing part of the global economy, you have the need for highly skilled workers, and the infrastructure is just not set up to generate the number of people we need. For various reasons, the private and the state sector are very slow in responding to those needs. What has jumped in to fill the gaps are the for-profit institutions, which are very responsive to the needs of people who need to improve their skill sets and to prove their marketability in the workforce. That creates the demand for education. I should add that in emerging markets the demand is dramatically heightened by the fact that these economies are trying to grow at a rapid rate, and most of the growth comes from the sectors which require skilled people. I would argue that in places such as China and Brazil there is a dramatic shortage of skilled people. Then we come to the supply side. It turns out that the supply of educational services is profoundly constrained for a number of reasons. I think that this relates to the work that I did in the credit rating business, and there is much that is similar. First of all, the education business tends to be highly regulated. In most countries around the world, you cannot just go and set up a post-secondary college and expect to be allowed to stay in business. There are regulatory requirements which have to be met, and the tendency in all regulated businesses is that the leaders and the largest companies tend to dominate the regulatory process. There is a good aspect to the regulatory process in that it raises standards in the industry and it ensures that you do not have charlatans and fly-by-night companies engaging in the industry. At the same time, it has an anti-competitive effect. Now, from the consumer perspective, that is not good. From the perspective of an investor in those industries it is very good. The other side of the story, which is not regulatory, is equally important. There is a reputational and branding effect which takes place when an educational institution has been around for some time, in which the very fact that you have attended and studied at a certain place gives you credibility in the marketplace. There are a limited number of brands that people can carry in their heads. We all know that when it comes to the United States, it is extremely unlikely that any university would displace Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. This branding effect also extends to the kinds of colleges that are offering for-profit degrees in that when they establish a brand, it becomes very marketable. The students who are going for higher education to improve their skill sets are not going to attend any institution. They are going to attend an institution with a good brand. There are two final elements to the thesis. First, the return on investment to the student is extremely high. This is something that has been studied across economies and has been shown to be the case across many different economies. The payback of any degree, even if you spend $20,000 to $30,000 per year on a two-year degree — which is not as effective as a four-year degree — is usually within two years. Somebody earning $50,000 will end up, after they have finished their degree, earning $60,000 or $70,000. Thus, they can pay off the cost of the education very quickly. [Regulation] raises standards in the industry and ensures that you do not have charlatans and fly-by-night companies engaging in the industry. At the same time, it has an anticompetitive effect. From the consumer perspective, that is not good. From the perspective of an investor in those industries it is very good. © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 The ROI on a degree has not been definitively studied, but I estimate to be well in excess of 50%, and the institution is only capturing a small proportion of that return on investment. Then when it comes to the institutions themselves, it turns out that you can have very high operating leverage, very high returns on invested capital, and very high returns on equity in these businesses because your customers benefit and because there are barriers to entry, both regulatory and other. That means that if you are established in the business, you can make very high returns. The key is to buy these companies at reasonable valuations and to buy companies that don’t run into regulatory problems — that have a long hill to slide down. …the international markets have been wide open for [non-U.S.] companies to pursue. MOI: Do U.S. giants such as Apollo Group have a chance of becoming leaders in overseas markets, or do you expect “locally grown” companies to dominate? Guy Spier: I should say that I have not been particularly focused on the U.S. for-profit education sector, even though it is the most developed in the world, because my perception is that the companies have had extremely rich valuations. I also think that since the U.S. market is so large and so full of opportunity, the majority of companies have focused, probably rightfully, on the domestic market. The result has been that the international markets have been wide open for other companies to pursue. I can think of at least one non-U.S. company that has a substantial chance of becoming the dominant player in the for-profit industry over the next 20 or 30 years. But there are some very good United States-based companies that I believe will do extremely well. I have visited the operations of Laureate Education [taken private in CEO-led buyout in 2007] in a number of different countries. They do an outstanding job of running a campus and they also have a global vision. I think that another company that is developing steadily internationally is Kaplan of the Washington Post [WPO], although they have been slower than Laureate to move internationally. The Kaplan testing service exam preparation service is already very international, so they have a good basis upon which to expand their operations. A third company, DeVry [DV], has started to gingerly expand into international markets. They recently bought a company in Brazil and they have had their international medical school, Ross University, which is based in Dominica. They also have means for exploring expansion through Becker Review. The guy who runs international development is named Sergio Abramovich, who is a very interesting guy to get to know. So they are developing, but I would still argue that all those companies, except for Laureate, are very much American in their focus and that creates great opportunity for non-American companies to pursue international opportunities. © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 MOI: For-profit education providers have enjoyed significant pricing power despite the fact that many companies derive a majority of revenue directly or indirectly from government-supported loan programs. Do you expect tuition price increases to continue to outpace inflation? Guy Spier: It is true that the for-profit education providers have enjoyed significant pricing power. It is worth saying, as an aside, that education is a fantastic example of a Giffen good. Those of us who are economists will know that a Giffen good is something where the higher the price goes, the more we want of it. Examples usually given are luxury goods such as a Rolls Royce or a Rolex watch. Warren Buffett, in his own inimical way, has described this as when you go and buy a diamond ring for your fiancée. You don’t want to come home and say, “Honey, I took the low bid.” That is true when it comes to certain brands of chocolates, it is true in the case of high-end jewelry, it is true in the case of certain luxury goods, and it is also true for education. It is true in any place where price becomes an indicator of value. Where someone is engaging in a purchasing decision where there is a huge amount of uncertainty, they don’t know much about the product they are buying, and they very much want to get it right. Price becomes one of the ways in which you discern that a purchasing decision is a good thing. This creates an incredibly strong business advantage for companies and enterprises that are leaders in their field. I have absolutely no doubt that the “Harvard Business Schools” of the world will continue to lead the industry in terms of price increases. As more and more people get rich around the world, they will all want elite educations. So as long as there is an increase in demand for their services, as there is today, the “Harvard Business Schools” of the world will be able to increase their prices at a greater rate than the rate of inflation. Those elite private universities create the pricing umbrella for the for-profit industry to move underneath. So if Harvard is raising its prices 10% per year, it is perfectly possible for a for-profit university to raise its prices 5% or 6% per year, and I absolutely expect them to do that. It is true that much of the revenues in the United States come from government-supported programs, but ultimately the decision to take on the debt and the decision to attend an institution is taken on by the student themselves. If the companies were pricing their education above the value that their educational services would deliver to the student, then one could expect that the price rises would not continue, but that is not the case at all. In fact, studies would suggest that the value of an education is going up, not down. One of the statistics you can look at to support this is to look at different economies and look at their salaries per degree. What is the salary of the non-college graduate workers? What is the salary of a college graduate? What is the salary of a master’s degree graduate? The gap between educated and non-educated is increasing. In a knowledge-based world, degrees which help you work with knowledge become more valuable because you can add more value in the workplace. Therefore, the people who are offering these degrees can charge higher prices. I don’t expect that process to end any time soon. …for-profit education providers have enjoyed significant pricing power. […] education is a fantastic example of a Giffen good. © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 On International Investing… MOI: You have invested globally for a long time — what are the main pitfalls to global investing and how big a role do transaction costs play when investing locally in emerging markets? Guy Spier: I have been investing internationally for a very long time – since I started investing. The main insight I would pass along is that I try to see the world as borderless. I think this is a better way to see things. I am not too concerned as to where a company is based. I am more concerned to find the business qualities that I need to find in order to make an investment. While it is easier in the United States, I think that an investor is crazy to stop the search for great investments at the borders of the country that they happen to be living in. I think that the most profound pitfall and thing that one has to get over when investing beyond your borders is not to take the conditions that exist in the home investing country and assume that the same conditions exist in the country where the investment is being made. I have seen that going both ways. From the United States investing out, there are assumptions that investors have made about how the managers of the foreign company will allocate capital. There are also assumptions about what kind of standard managers hold themselves to. Not all managers of companies want to be remembered for being the best capital allocators. In some countries, being rapacious and greedy is considered a normal standard. Russia might be an example of that. At the same time, there are some countries such as Switzerland, where I would argue the ethics of drawing a modest salary and really acting for best interest of the shareholders are possibly even higher than the very high standards that already exist in the United States. The reverse is also true. For example, Korean investors think that the United States is a very risky place to invest because they make assumptions about the way Americans act. I think that the key danger is that we make many assumptions that have to be checked and revised. One of the ways to do that is to spend some time in the country where the investments are being made. One of the rules that I have is that I want to be able to read the source documents in the language in which they are produced. I think there is a lot of subtlety that is missed when one reads a translation. Transaction costs in international markets have been going down over time, so I don’t think that they should be a big concern. I have been a buy-andhold investor, and my average holding period is in excess of three years. To the extent that the transaction costs a bit higher, it has not been a deterrent for me. …investors are crazy if they stop the search for great investments at the borders of the country they happen to be living in. MOI: Is globalization irreversible? Guy Spier: The global economic downturn has made protectionism more popular. We absolutely know that. We see that in a number of different ways, and we all know as free traders that this is unfortunate but true. The antiglobalization and the anti-world trade movement is a strong movement. People who feel like their jobs have been lost and their livelihoods have been lost to workers from other countries have a specific and very genuine grievance which is something that all globalizing economies have to deal with. © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 To deal with it doesn’t mean to ignore it. To deal with it means to find a way to buffer the effects of the jobs of these people going overseas. Of course, in theory a laid-off autoworker can become a creative web designer. However, the truth is that a laid-off auto worker may only be good at making cars. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that this is one of the reasons why we pay taxes — to ensure that people who are laid off through globalization have opportunities to retrain and have opportunities to go into new professions and new jobs and be productive human beings. In terms of whether globalization is irreversible, I would argue that it is absolutely irreversible in the same way that the phone created irreversible changes, and the Internet created irreversible changes. I would argue that much of what is driving globalization is actually the implementation of these new communications technologies around the world. …globalization is irreversible… in the same way that the phone created irreversible changes, and the Internet created irreversible changes. One great example that I heard was of the remote Indian village in which there are no telephones. One day you install one telephone and the effect of that telephone is profound even though there is only one. Suddenly farmers can phone hundreds of miles away and discover the prices for their produce at markets. Suddenly, middlemen have a much diminished opportunity to engage in taking middleman profits. Farmers are able to discover weather patterns and storm fronts and thus plan when they plant and how they manage their fields. It is the subject of a talk that I have given. Once you have that convenience, you are not going to give it up at almost any price. Once you have lived in a concrete and steel constructed house, you are not going want to go back to living in a mud hut. Once you have had the benefits of speaking on the telephone to your loved ones, you are not going to want to go without that. I would argue that globalization is inevitable and irreversible. It is similar to thinking that southern Manhattan once had fields and crops planted there. Over time there was an increased concentration of offices and residential activity in southern Manhattan, and the fields moved away from Manhattan such that you don’t have any planted fields within at least a ten-mile radius of Manhattan, let alone southern Manhattan. The process by which southern Manhattan developed was inevitable and irreversible. Much as the probability that southern Manhattan would be ploughed over and turned into fields is extremely low, I would argue that the probability that globalization is reversible is equally as low. And Finally… MOI: What books have you read in recent years that have stood out as valuable additions to your investment library? Guy Spier: I sent Alice Schroeder’s book7 out to a bunch of investors. I think that it is a very valuable book to read. I know that it has been controversial, but setting that aside, I think that Alice probes into aspects of Warren Buffet’s mind and psyche to reveal more of his personality with all of the foibles of the human being behind Warren Buffet. 7 Alice Schroeder: The Snowball: Warren Buffett and the Business of Life. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. For those of us that are big Buffett fans, that is a huge advantage. It helped me to understand why I am different than Warren Buffett. I think it is a valuable read in that regard. It helps to place his mind in the center of the decisions he has made. The book lets you look at the kind of emotional life that Buffett had growing up. I do not think his phenomenal track record could have come about without that emotional makeup. There are three books that I have read not so long ago on complexity theory. I think that they are extremely valuable. One is by John Gribbin.8 Even though I studied economics and I felt I had a good grasp of the kind of economics taught academically, I feel that the study of complexity theory as applied to the global economy is actually a much better model for understanding how the global economy evolves. …by placing an area to play bridge right outside of Borsheim’s, Buffett is saying that bridge is more than just a great game — it is something that has really helped him develop his mind. One of the books is by Benoit Mandelbrot 9 who is famous for the Mandelbrot set. He also wrote a book about the fractal nature of financial markets. Mandelbrot is obviously a very modest guy because his fractal approach to financial markets predicts that sooner or later something like what happened over the last 18 months was going to happen. Unlike other commentators, who get in front of the TV cameras and say “I told you so,” he has not done that. He is a true scientist. Lastly, an investor of mine gave me one of the two books by Atul Gawande who is focused on the very small things that make hospitals better. One of the books is actually called Better. The other book is called Complications. Atul Gawande gives a sense of how you can be extremely knowledgeable and totally focused on the right outcomes and still fail by a wide margin to get close to the ideal that you would like. Of course, this has massive lessons for investors. I recently took up bridge, so I have been reading a lot of bridge books. I am looking forward to going outside Borsheim’s at the next Berkshire Hathaway meeting and playing bridge with whoever is willing to play me. I don’t think that it is a coincidence that Buffett chose to put an area to play bridge outside of Borsheim’s rather than chess or table tennis or any one of a number of other things. It is not just that Buffett likes bridge. He likes an awful lot of things. I think that he is sending a message, in his inimical way, which is not to force it down anyone’s throat. But by placing an area to play bridge right outside of Borsheim’s, Buffett is saying that bridge is more than just a great game, it is something that has really helped him, I believe, develop his mind. I think it can develop all of our minds in a way which is helpful to investing. MOI: Guy, thank you very much for taking the time to interview with us. We remain indebted to David M. Kessler for transcribing the interview. Guy Spier has been running Aquamarine Capital Management since 1995. Investors include friends and family, high net worth individuals, and private banks. The fund has market-beating returns, and has received mentions by Lipper and Nelson’s world’s best money managers. The investees can be obscure or they can also be very well known. The fund has also done well owning the shares of less understood, but very high quality, cash generative businesses. 8 9 John Gribbin: Deep Simplicity: Chaos Complexity and the Emergence of Life (Penguin Press Science). Benoit B. Mandelbrot: Fractals and Scaling In Finance: Discontinuity, Concentration, Risk. www.manualofideas.com July 31, 2009 © 2009 by BeyondProxy LLC. All rights reserved. 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Guy Spier of Aquamarine Capital is a noted value investor and speaker on investment management. Guy’s willingness to share his insights with fellow value investors reminds us of Buffett’s penchant for sharing his wisdom with those eager to benefit from it. Last November, Guy spoke on global value investing at the Darden Value Investing Conference in Charlottesville, Virginia.  This past May, he was at the Value Investing Congress in Pasadena, California,  making a case for global for-profit education providers Estácio (Brazil: ESTC3) and Raffles Education (Singapore: E6D).  Earlier this month, Guy presented at the Value Investing Seminar in Molfetta, Italy, highlighting an opportunity in London Mining (Oslo Axess: LOND).  His speech was entitled, Navigating Between Fear & Greed Using Checklists. 



On The Investment Process



The Manual of Ideas: Your fund has outperformed the market indices by a wide margin since inception, posting a cumulative net return of 115% from September 1997 through June 2009, compared to cumulative returns of 9% for the Dow Jones Industrial Average, 0% for the S&P 500 Index and -13% for the FT 100. Do you use short-selling or leverage in the portfolio and how concentrated is your fund typically?



Guy Spier on short selling: I do not use short selling. The fund has not shorted a stock since the 2002 to 2003 time frame. At that time I did short three stocks, on which I broke even on two and made money on one of them. The experience taught me that I was not going to be using short selling going forward for a slew of reasons. The first is the straightforward logic of the matter. The trend of the market is up, not down. Shorting stocks puts you against that trend and thus makes it more difficult to make money. Other than a time period like the one we’ve gone through, short selling will tend to be a difficult strategy to make money with.

Second, the mathematics of shorting – when you short something and it goes down, it becomes a bigger and bigger part of your portfolio, thus creating increasing risk as things go against you, making it an unbalanced and unstable thing to manage. By contrast, when you go long something and it goes against you, it becomes a smaller and smaller proportion of the portfolio, thus reducing its impact on the portfolio. So there is a tendency for long positions to self-stabilize in a certain way – they have a stabilizing effect on the portfolio, whereas short positions have a destabilizing effect on the portfolio.

This results in two things. First, it means that if you are going to short, you have to make each short position a small proportion of the portfolio. Most of the people I respect who do short make their short positions no more than 1% or 2% of the portfolio, which means that in order to derive advantages from it, you need to short a lot of stocks. The other effect is that you have to be super vigilant. When you have shorts in your portfolio, you have to be watching them all the time, looking for indications of something that will cause the stock to go up on you many multiples and thus eat away much of the value in your portfolio.

That is not the way that I want to run money. What I found when I was short the three stocks was that I was doing things, and having to pay attention in ways that I don’t think my brain is wired for. As you know, and many of your readers know, much of investing is finding a way to invest successfully to play the odds which are in tune and in congruence with the way your own nervous system is wired. I think that there are some people out there who have nervous systems that are wired to do shorting very well. I take my hat off to them, but I am not one of those people.

I would also add that short selling falls into a category of trade that Nassim Taleb has described very well in Fooled by Randomness. It has been described as picking up pennies in front of a steamroller. There are many trades that appear to be profitable on a cash basis, meaning that one can go for years picking up the pennies, showing an income, while pretending to one’s self, or one’s risk managers, or investors that the risk of a loss on that trade is minimal to zero. The practical reality is that one can go for long periods of time on those trades and can do just fine until a big bath happens that eats away all of the previous profits that were gained. I would argue that short selling is one of those kinds of trades and the big bath is exemplified by the experience that people had in the recent Volkswagen/Porsche pair trade. The price of VW went up many, many, many times and resulted in a huge loss for the people who were in that position, potentially wiping out many years of shorting gains.

I see a lot of these kinds of opportunities, and the right thing to do is just to say “no.” I think one of the hard things about these types of trades is that they are extremely attractive. They are dressed up to look extremely sexy for the kinds of people that are thinking about investing in funds like mine. I think that often investment managers consider doing them not because they believe in the trade themselves, but because they know it will be attractive to certain types of investors who perceive the trade as being smart. I think that the best thing to do is walk away from them.



Guy Spier on leverage: I was actually levered to 110% of the value of equities, so 10% levered in 1998, as I purchased more securities during the Asian crisis. I was very lucky, because everything worked out for me and I made a little bit more return as a result. Since then, the fund has never been leveraged for a very good reason. Most of the people that you and I know, the readership of your fine publication, will be in trades that will make them money provided they can play out their hands.

We know that leverage can prevent you from playing out your hand because exactly the time when markets go into crisis is when your credit gets called. I am aware of funds that had their credit lines pulled at the most inconvenient times and suffered catastrophic losses which would not have been suffered had their credit not been pulled.

It is worth saying that except in the case of a very large fund that can arrange for some kind of long-term loan from their broker, the loans tend to be overnight. You get money overnight and the trades can usually be liquidated within a very short period of time. Good investment ideas usually take months, if not years, to play out. I would argue that levering up an investment portfolio, even if it is composed of liquid securities, is a profound mismatch of assets and liabilities.

I think that the experience of Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers exemplifies this case. They were borrowing money short-term and the investments they were making were liquid, so from the perspective of the lender they were not bothered because they knew they could force the brokerage firm to liquidate in order to pay their short-term funding. The reality was that the bets that they were making needed time to play out and to the extent that those firms didn’t have the time to let those bets play out, they suffered insolvency, and that is not something that I am about to do for my investors.



Guy Spier on concentration: The portfolio was extremely concentrated in that about six positions were as much as 85% of the total value of the fund. I think that part of the reason for my substantial decline in 2008 was the fact that risks that I was not aware of cropped up in the portfolio and impacted some positions substantially. If I were able to go back in time and look at the information I had, I am not sure I would not have owned the things that I owned. However, I think that one of the ways I could have protected my investors from such a substantial decline is to have less concentrated positions. Going forward a 5% position will be a full position. An idea will have to be something absolutely extraordinary to become a 10% position and many positions in the portfolio are currently 2-4%.



MOI: When it comes to stock selection, you have talked about the importance of checklists. Why are they so crucial, and what are some of the key items on your checklist?



Guy Spier: Those readers who have seen my two or three presentations know that I have talked about checklists. All of these ideas have emerged from conversations with Mohnish Pabrai, who noticed an article by Atul Gawande in The New Yorker with profound implications for investors. I'll share the basic insight that I have had as a result of these conversations: I think that we just have to acknowledge that there are some individuals out there — I think Warren Buffett in the investment world is one, Ajit Jain in the insurance world is another — who have a very particular ability to rationally analyze a situation in spite of crazy things going on in the world.

Most of us do not have that specific wiring. In spite of that, we can still improve our decision-making an awful lot by using checklists. The main way that I see it is that the investment world, either by design or by nature — and I think it is a combination of the two —  throws up plenty of information that is designed to trigger one of two areas in the brain.

One is the threat detection fear mechanism, which throws up a very primeval response that has evolved within us for a very long time. It is one of the oldest parts of our brain — the fight-or-flight response. When we see something that makes us fearful, and we don’t have time to act, analyze and make weighted judgments, we have to decide either to run or to stay. We all know days in the market where that part of an investor’s brain is dominating and in which share prices can move around rather dramatically when compared to what appears to be very small amounts of news. So that is one sort of mode that the markets can be in, which is really the psychological mode of the majority of the participants in the market.

Then there is another side, which is irrational exuberance, as Alan Greenspan has described it, where the part of the brain that is being triggered is, as I’ve seen it described in various articles, the pleasure center of the brain. It turns out that the part of the brain we stimulate by the expectation of future profits is not that far away or dissimilar to the part of the brain that is stimulated, or lights up in CAT scans, when cocaine addicts either contemplate or are taking cocaine. These are very powerful centers.

Whether it is the fight-or-flight or the expectation of pleasure centers, the effect of both is to short-circuit rationally considered thoughts. They undermine the path of the brain that can make weighted, careful judgments about probabilities and about expectations. My perception is that it is the rational neocortex from which flow the very best investment decisions. Unfortunately, the world in which we operate is a minefield of opportunities to get caught up either by the fight-or-flight or by the pleasure center. So to the extent that somebody will talk about an investment being good when one is trembling with greed – I would not subscribe to that because trembling with greed implies that your greed and pleasure mechanisms in the brain are dominating the rational side.

I think that somebody like Warren Buffett is naturally wired not to be in either of those two extremes and spends his time in the happy middle. I think that what the rest of us human beings can do to train ourselves to be in that happy middle is use checklists. A checklist pulls us away from the kinds of actions that we would take if we were in either fight-or-flight or greed modes. So that is the basis for checklists.

The example I have given in talks is an airplane that is crashing. There is no question that checklists have been extremely helpful in reducing airplane accident rates. What it does is it brings the brain back to the place where one can make rational decisions.



MOI: What advice would you give other investors on building an effective checklist? Is it primarily a product of past investment experience, i.e., mistakes — and if so, how does one differentiate between mistakes that should go on the checklist versus others that are simply unavoidable?



Guy Spier: Obviously, in terms of building checklists, there is no question that the place to go is past mistakes. Not only one’s own past mistakes, but also to look at other investors’ past mistakes and see what those mistakes were. It seems to me, and it is a process that I am still going through, that the more specific the checklist item is the better.

I can give an example of an investment that I made where the CEO of the corporation was going through a divorce — a long, protracted and bitter divorce. In retrospect, when I look at what went wrong in that investment, I can see very clearly that the fact that he was going through this divorce meant that the CEO was much less able to focus both on the needs of the business and on capital allocation decisions. His whole investment, in fact, would have gone to his former wife if she had won the lawsuit. The whole company would not have belonged to him. So his emotional ties to the company were predicated on the outcome of the court case. His desire to make money for the company’s shareholders would have been hugely diminished if his wife had ended up controlling the company. So one of the items in my checklist is whether the CEO is going through major divorce proceedings, in which case I would tend to weigh that very heavily.

To give an example of checklist items that don’t come from individual or personal mistakes is the example of Coca-Cola (KO) and its ownership by Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A). There was a period earlier this decade when Coca-Cola was trading at a multiple which was as high as 40 to 45 times earnings. We all know that Warren Buffett did not sell. I think that there is at least one statement in the public domain where he said that if given the chance to revisit that decision, he would have sold Coca-Cola.

I ask myself to what extent he was unable to make that choice at the time and execute a sale because he had already made public statements in the annual reports and elsewhere that Coca-Cola was an inevitable and permanent holding of Berkshire Hathaway. Making such a public statement is a very powerful driver of commitment consistency bias, which may have affected his ability to make rational decisions.

So what would go on the list? You would ask yourself the question, “Have I made public statements about this?” Obviously, the note to self is, don’t make public statements about positions you own that will predispose you towards owning them or not owning them or being able to sell them or not.

There is another example from Berkshire Hathaway, which is the acquisition of Cort Furniture, which did not turn out to be the phenomenal acquisition that some commentators suggested it was. It seems that one of the reasons is that Cort was in the business of renting furniture to people who had a temporary need. Cort benefited dramatically from the Internet bubble in which many companies were setting up offices that needed to be furnished rather quickly and had large amounts of money to spend. In the aftermath of the Internet bubble, the demand from that portion of the market was extremely attenuated and Cort’s earnings power was diminished significantly.

The basic insight that seems to have not been applied in the Cort acquisition, which has gone onto my checklist, would be, “Am I investing in an industry or a company that is benefiting from another industry that has just experienced a dramatic boom?” Another way of saying the same thing would be, “Am I investing while looking in the rear view mirror rather than looking at the road ahead?” Whether they are yours or somebody else’s, I think that mistakes are the most fruitful place to look for checklist items.

It is important to note that checklists are not wish lists. Obviously, we are looking for certain kinds of businesses and certain types of investment. That is what we are navigating for. The checklists are very specific items that are designed to bring our brains away from the influence of greed and fear. I would argue that I am not sure a mistake that is unavoidable is a “mistake” in terms of your question. I think that there are so many ways where one can go wrong. In retrospect we can see what we should have known. It is hard to control for the unknowable, because it is by definition unknown. The more one can throw onto an investment checklist, the better.

It is worth pointing out that no investment is going to pass every single investment checklist item. What the investment checklist will do is to throw up the issues that one should be focused on. Then an investor can try to weigh them to decide if they negate the benefits of the investment or not. One of the things that the checklist has done for me is to bring up the basic question: “Are we stretching to make the investment?” In this way investing is very similar to golf. In golf, one never hits a good shot if one is stretching or pushing oneself. The best golf shots come when we are acting well within our capacity. To that extent, a term that I do not think should apply to investing is, “I spent time getting comfortable.” The investment should leap out to you. If you are trying to get comfortable with something or it takes too long for you to get comfortable with it, then it is probably not a good investment. You shouldn’t have to get comfortable. That implies to me that I would be stretching.



MOI: What is the single biggest mistake that keeps investors from reaching their goals?



Guy Spier: The biggest mistake is when we as investors stop thinking like principals. I think that when we think as principals, when we apply Ben Graham’s maxim that we should treat every equity security as part ownership in a business and think like business owners, we have the right perspective. Most of the answers flow from having that perspective. While thinking like that is not easy, and most of the time the answers are not to invest and to do nothing, the kind of decision-making that flows from that perspective tends to be good investment decision-making.

I’ll just give you examples from my own life and from people close to me of the ways in which that perspective can be deformed by the environment and circumstances. It can be deformed by having the wrong investors — investors who see you, the investment manager, as a proxy for their desires.

I had an experience with an investor who was admonishing me for holding too high much cash. The investor claimed that they were not paying me to hold cash balances. Well, that created a pressure on me to get fully invested. The person making the investment wanted me to show that cash was being put to work. I was responding to the situation rather than to the logical and rational dictates of having a prudent amount of cash. I was responding to the actual demand of the client. To the extent that I did respond to that pressure, I was acting less like a principal and more like somebody that was putting together a marketing story.

In another example, to the extent that I have been associated with the for-profit education industry, I have received questions as to why I don’t market my fund as a global education fund. Again, if I were to do so, I would no longer be acting as a principal trying to maximize the return on investment for my shareholders, but I would be seeking to market the fund by appealing to a particular niche audience. That could result in some substantial misallocations of capital.

I think that this mistake comes in varied forms and it influences all of us. When we talk about creating the best environment for making investment decisions — a lot of that entails investing within the right structure, the right incentive structure. It also comes from having the right investors as partners and aggressively moving away from and not engaging with people who show themselves to be the wrong type of partner because they are focused on the wrong thing. I think that everything falls from having a principal’s perspective. 



MOI: How do you generate investment ideas?



Guy Spier: My answer is “all of the above.” The nature of a good investment idea is that it puts together new facts in old ways or old facts in new ways. You need to have the mental flexibility and creative ability to see something new and see why it fits together in a certain way. I think that the answer in my case is to look at everything, to do everything in a certain way, and to reserve a lot of time for thinking.

I read other managers’ letters. I look at the positions they own. The lists of portfolio securities that other managers own are very useful because it means the investment has already passed a very important filter. I think that whenever something in Seth Klarman’s portfolio is trading below the price that he paid for it, it is worthy of looking at, and at the same time, it performs another function. To get better at investing you want to study the moves of the masters.

I also read a number of industry publications. The publications vary at any time depending on the particular industries that I am interested in and what subscriptions I have decided to subscribe to. One subscription that I have right now is to The Nilson Report on the credit card industry. Based on my interest in following the U.S. banking sector I recently subscribed to The American Banker. I also recently subscribed to The Oil and Gas Journal. These are all interesting journals that don’t necessarily throw up investment ideas per se, but they throw up background information. While a lot of this information is available on the web, it is very nice to look at it in the form of a publication.

So, wide reading, including the daily newspapers, is important. I like to screen for companies, but increasingly I have found that your service and other people present me with screens that perhaps provide a shortcut. Having said that, it is also worth saying that I don’t think there is any shortage of ideas for anyone who is interested in investing. It doesn’t take a moment of browsing on the Internet before you have 30 ideas to look at.

The real question is, as I look at the ideas, why am I discarding them and what personal biases am I engaging in as I discard them? I think something I have seen in a number of portfolios, including my own, is that the contents of the portfolio are a reflection of the particular biases of the person running the portfolio. To the extent that those biases or the model of the world that person has is faulty, it can lead to either phenomenal returns if the stars are aligned or it can lead to very bad returns if the stars do not align.

As I look at other people’s portfolios, I look to understand what their biases are and what particular chinks in their armor they may have. They may have a predilection for small-cap stocks or they may have a predilection for niche companies with niche ideas. Ultimately, what I can say for myself, I have had a bias towards low-capital invested, high-ROE businesses. In general, that is a bias that has probably been very productive. However, there are environments, particularly the one that we have just been through over the past 18 months, where that has probably hurt the portfolio more than it has helped the portfolio. So the way in which we go about generating ideas is obviously both important and critical and I think that ultimately it is a journey to explore our own personal biases.



On Global For-Profit Education



MOI: Please share with us your thesis on global for-profit education. Which countries are particularly good places to invest in this growing trend?



Guy Spier: The thesis on the global for-profit education business is a very simple one. We have an educational infrastructure whose legacy was the industrial revolution. This has been valid whether we talk about China, Brazil, the United States, or Western Europe. The basic outlook was that the vast majority of people being educated would go to work in factories. They didn’t need more than a certain level of education. These educational systems would then skim off the very best who would go off to be lawyers, doctors, and accountants – white-collar suited pen pushers.

The IT and post-industrial revolution that we have been through and continue to go through over the last 30 years has been one in which the need for relatively low skill levels has attenuated and the need for people with high skill levels has grown dramatically. Whether it is people who can do research into biochemistry and biotechnology or whether it is people who are developing gaming software for the gaming industry. Obviously the people who design computer chips or computer programmers need to achieve a certain skill level.

In every growing part of the global economy, you have the need for highly skilled workers, and the infrastructure is just not set up to generate the number of people we need. For various reasons, the private and the state sector are very slow in responding to those needs. What has jumped in to fill the gaps are the for-profit institutions, which are very responsive to the needs of people who need to improve their skill sets and to prove their marketability in the workforce. That creates the demand for education.

I should add that in emerging markets the demand is dramatically heightened by the fact that these economies are trying to grow at a rapid rate, and most of the growth comes from the sectors which require skilled people. I would argue that in places such as China and Brazil there is a dramatic shortage of skilled people.

Then we come to the supply side. It turns out that the supply of educational services is profoundly constrained for a number of reasons. I think that this relates to the work that I did in the credit rating business, and there is much that is similar. First of all, the education business tends to be highly regulated. In most countries around the world, you cannot just go and set up a post-secondary college and expect to be allowed to stay in business. There are regulatory requirements which have to be met, and the tendency in all regulated businesses is that the leaders and the largest companies tend to dominate the regulatory process. There is a good aspect to the regulatory process in that it raises standards in the industry and it ensures that you do not have charlatans and fly-by-night companies engaging in the industry. At the same time, it has an anti-competitive effect. Now, from the consumer perspective, that is not good. From the perspective of an investor in those industries it is very good.

The other side of the story, which is not regulatory, is equally important. There is a reputational and branding effect which takes place when an educational institution has been around for some time, in which the very fact that you have attended and studied at a certain place gives you credibility in the marketplace. There are a limited number of brands that people can carry in their heads. We all know that when it comes to the United States, it is extremely unlikely that any university would displace Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. This branding effect also extends to the kinds of colleges that are offering for-profit degrees in that when they establish a brand, it becomes very marketable. The students who are going for higher education to improve their skill sets are not going to attend any institution. They are going to attend an institution with a good brand.

There are two final elements to the thesis. First, the return on investment to the student is extremely high. This is something that has been studied across economies and has been shown to be the case across many different economies. The payback of any degree, even if you spend $20,000 to $30,000 per year on a two-year degree — which is not as effective as a four-year degree — is usually within two years. Somebody earning $50,000 will end up, after they have finished their degree, earning $60,000 or $70,000. Thus, they can pay off the cost of the education very quickly.

The ROI on a degree has not been definitively studied, but I estimate to be well in excess of 50%, and the institution is only capturing a small proportion of that return on investment. Then when it comes to the institutions themselves, it turns out that you can have very high operating leverage, very high returns on invested capital, and very high returns on equity in these businesses because your customers benefit and because there are barriers to entry, both regulatory and other. That means that if you are established in the business, you can make very high returns. The key is to buy these companies at reasonable valuations and to buy companies that don’t run into regulatory problems — that have a long hill to slide down.



MOI: Do U.S. giants such as Apollo Group (APOL) have a chance of becoming leaders in overseas markets, or do you expect “locally grown” companies to dominate?



Guy Spier: I should say that I have not been particularly focused on the U.S. for-profit education sector, even though it is the most developed in the world, because my perception is that the companies have had extremely rich valuations.

I also think that since the U.S. market is so large and so full of opportunity, the majority of companies have focused, probably rightfully, on the domestic market. The result has been that the international markets have been wide open for other companies to pursue.

I can think of at least one non-U.S. company that has a substantial chance of becoming the dominant player in the for-profit industry over the next 20 or 30 years. But there are some very good United States-based companies that I believe will do extremely well. I have visited the operations of Laureate Education [taken private in CEO-led buyout in 2007] in a number of different countries. They do an outstanding job of running a campus and they also have a global vision.

I think that another company that is developing steadily internationally is Kaplan of the Washington Post (WPO), although they have been slower than Laureate to move internationally. The Kaplan testing service exam preparation service is already very international, so they have a good basis upon which to expand their operations.

A third company, DeVry (DV), has started to gingerly expand into international markets. They recently bought a company in Brazil and they have had their international medical school, Ross University, which is based in Dominica. They also have means for exploring expansion through Becker Review. The guy who runs international development is named Sergio Abramovich, who is a very interesting guy to get to know. So they are developing, but I would still argue that all those companies, except for Laureate, are very much American in their focus and that creates great opportunity for non-American companies to pursue international opportunities.



MOI: For-profit education providers have enjoyed significant pricing power despite the fact that many companies derive a majority of revenue directly or indirectly from government-supported loan programs. Do you expect tuition price increases to continue to outpace inflation?



Guy Spier: It is true that the for-profit education providers have enjoyed significant pricing power. It is worth saying, as an aside, that education is a fantastic example of a Giffen good. Those of us who are economists will know that a Giffen good is something where the higher the price goes, the more we want of it. Examples usually given are luxury goods such as a Rolls Royce or a Rolex watch. Warren Buffett, in his own inimical way, has described this as when you go and buy a diamond ring for your fiancée. You don’t want to come home and say, “Honey, I took the low bid.” That is true when it comes to certain brands of chocolates, it is true in the case of high-end jewelry, it is true in the case of certain luxury goods, and it is also true for education. It is true in any place where price becomes an indicator of value. Where someone is engaging in a purchasing decision where there is a huge amount of uncertainty, they don’t know much about the product they are buying, and they very much want to get it right. Price becomes one of the ways in which you discern that a purchasing decision is a good thing. This creates an incredibly strong business advantage for companies and enterprises that are leaders in their field.

I have absolutely no doubt that the “Harvard Business Schools” of the world will continue to lead the industry in terms of price increases. As more and more people get rich around the world, they will all want elite educations. So as long as there is an increase in demand for their services, as there is today, the “Harvard Business Schools” of the world will be able to increase their prices at a greater rate than the rate of inflation. Those elite private universities create the pricing umbrella for the for-profit industry to move underneath. So if Harvard is raising its prices 10% per year, it is perfectly possible for a for-profit university to raise its prices 5% or 6% per year, and I absolutely expect them to do that.

It is true that much of the revenues in the United States come from government-supported programs, but ultimately the decision to take on the debt and the decision to attend an institution is taken on by the student themselves. If the companies were pricing their education above the value that their educational services would deliver to the student, then one could expect that the price rises would not continue, but that is not the case at all. In fact, studies would suggest that the value of an education is going up, not down.

One of the statistics you can look at to support this is to look at different economies and look at their salaries per degree. What is the salary of the non-college graduate workers? What is the salary of a college graduate? What is the salary of a master’s degree graduate? The gap between educated and non-educated is increasing. In a knowledge-based world, degrees which help you work with knowledge become more valuable because you can add more value in the workplace. Therefore, the people who are offering these degrees can charge higher prices. I don’t expect that process to end any time soon.



On International Investing



MOI: You have invested globally for a long time — what are the main pitfalls to global investing and how big a role do transaction costs play when investing locally in emerging markets?



Guy Spier: I have been investing internationally for a very long time – since I started investing. The main insight I would pass along is that I try to see the world as borderless. I think this is a better way to see things. I am not too concerned as to where a company is based. I am more concerned to find the business qualities that I need to find in order to make an investment. While it is easier in the United States, I think that an investor is crazy to stop the search for great investments at the borders of the country that they happen to be living in.

I think that the most profound pitfall and thing that one has to get over when investing beyond your borders is not to take the conditions that exist in the home investing country and assume that the same conditions exist in the country where the investment is being made. I have seen that going both ways. From the United States investing out, there are assumptions that investors have made about how the managers of the foreign company will allocate capital. There are also assumptions about what kind of standard managers hold themselves to. Not all managers of companies want to be remembered for being the best capital allocators. In some countries, being rapacious and greedy is considered a normal standard. Russia might be an example of that. At the same time, there are some countries such as Switzerland, where I would argue the ethics of drawing a modest salary and really acting for best interest of the shareholders are possibly even higher than the very high standards that already exist in the United States.

The reverse is also true. For example, Korean investors think that the United States is a very risky place to invest because they make assumptions about the way Americans act. I think that the key danger is that we make many assumptions that have to be checked and revised. One of the ways to do that is to spend some time in the country where the investments are being made. One of the rules that I have is that I want to be able to read the source documents in the language in which they are produced. I think there is a lot of subtlety that is missed when one reads a translation.

Transaction costs in international markets have been going down over time, so I don’t think that they should be a big concern. I have been a buy-and-hold investor, and my average holding period is in excess of three years. To the extent that the transaction costs a bit higher, it has not been a deterrent for me.



MOI: Is globalization irreversible?



Guy Spier: The global economic downturn has made protectionism more popular. We absolutely know that. We see that in a number of different ways, and we all know as free traders that this is unfortunate but true. The anti-globalization and the anti-world trade movement is a strong movement. People who feel like their jobs have been lost and their livelihoods have been lost to workers from other countries have a specific and very genuine grievance which is something that all globalizing economies have to deal with.



To deal with it doesn’t mean to ignore it. To deal with it means to find a way to buffer the effects of the jobs of these people going overseas. Of course, in theory a laid-off autoworker can become a creative web designer. However, the truth is that a laid-off auto worker may only be good at making cars. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that this is one of the reasons why we pay taxes — to ensure that people who are laid off through globalization have opportunities to retrain and have opportunities to go into new professions and new jobs and be productive human beings.

In terms of whether globalization is irreversible, I would argue that it is absolutely irreversible in the same way that the phone created irreversible changes, and the Internet created irreversible changes. I would argue that much of what is driving globalization is actually the implementation of these new communications technologies around the world.

One great example that I heard was of the remote Indian village in which there are no telephones. One day you install one telephone and the effect of that telephone is profound even though there is only one. Suddenly farmers can phone hundreds of miles away and discover the prices for their produce at markets. Suddenly, middlemen have a much diminished opportunity to engage in taking middleman profits. Farmers are able to discover weather patterns and storm fronts and thus plan when they plant and how they manage their fields. It is the subject of a talk that I have given. Once you have that convenience, you are not going to give it up at almost any price. Once you have lived in a concrete and steel constructed house, you are not going want to go back to living in a mud hut. Once you have had the benefits of speaking on the telephone to your loved ones, you are not going to want to go without that.

I would argue that globalization is inevitable and irreversible. It is similar to thinking that southern Manhattan once had fields and crops planted there. Over time there was an increased concentration of offices and residential activity in southern Manhattan, and the fields moved away from Manhattan such that you don’t have any planted fields within at least a ten-mile radius of Manhattan, let alone southern Manhattan. The process by which southern Manhattan developed was inevitable and irreversible. Much as the probability that southern Manhattan would be ploughed over and turned into fields is extremely low, I would argue that the probability that globalization is reversible is equally as low.



And Finally…



MOI: What books have you read in recent years that have stood out as valuable additions to your investment library?



Guy Spier: I sent Alice Schroeder’s book out to a bunch of investors. I think that it is a very valuable book to read. I know that it has been controversial, but setting that aside, I think that Alice probes into aspects of Warren Buffet’s mind and psyche to reveal more of his personality with all of the foibles of the human being behind Warren Buffet.

For those of us that are big Buffett fans, that is a huge advantage. It helped me to understand why I am different than Warren Buffett. I think it is a valuable read in that regard. It helps to place his mind in the center of the decisions he has made. The book lets you look at the kind of emotional life that Buffett had growing up. I do not think his phenomenal track record could have come about without that emotional makeup.

There are three books that I have read not so long ago on complexity theory. I think that they are extremely valuable. One is by John Gribbin.  Even though I studied economics and I felt I had a good grasp of the kind of economics taught academically, I feel that the study of complexity theory as applied to the global economy is actually a much better model for understanding how the global economy evolves.

One of the books is by Benoit Mandelbrot who is famous for the Mandelbrot set. He also wrote a book about the fractal nature of financial markets. Mandelbrot is obviously a very modest guy because his fractal approach to financial markets predicts that sooner or later something like what happened over the last 18 months was going to happen. Unlike other commentators, who get in front of the TV cameras and say “I told you so,” he has not done that. He is a true scientist.

Lastly, an investor of mine gave me one of the two books by Atul Gawande who is focused on the very small things that make hospitals better. One of the books is actually called Better. The other book is called Complications. Atul Gawande gives a sense of how you can be extremely knowledgeable and totally focused on the right outcomes and still fail by a wide margin to get close to the ideal that you would like. Of course, this has massive lessons for investors.

I recently took up bridge, so I have been reading a lot of bridge books. I am looking forward to going outside Borsheim’s at the next Berkshire Hathaway meeting and playing bridge with whoever is willing to play me. I don’t think that it is a coincidence that Buffett chose to put an area to play bridge outside of Borsheim’s rather than chess or table tennis or any one of a number of other things. It is not just that Buffett likes bridge. He likes an awful lot of things. I think that he is sending a message, in his inimical way, which is not to force it down anyone’s throat. But by placing an area to play bridge right outside of Borsheim’s, Buffett is saying that bridge is more than just a great game, it is something that has really helped him, I believe, develop his mind. I think it can develop all of our minds in a way which is helpful to investing.



MOI: Guy, thank you very much for taking the time to interview with us.



We remain indebted to David M. Kessler for transcribing the interview.



About Guy Spier



Guy has been running Aquamarine Capital Management since 1995. Investors include friends and family, high net worth individuals, and private banks. The fund has market-beating returns, and has received mentions by Lipper and Nelson’s world’s best money managers. The investees can be obscure or they can also be very well known. The fund has also done well owning the shares of less understood, but very high quality, cash generative businesses.



Disclosures: No positions.

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August 10, 2009

Sprott's Peter Hodson Likes Gravity

Well-regarded fund manager Peter Hodson of Sprott Asset Management presented a compelling investment case for Gravity Co. (GRVY) in an interview with Canada's Business News Network on August 6th. Hodson's argument is in line with the thesis presented in a recent issue of Downside Protection Report.

Gravity is a Korean software company, developing massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPG). Despite the company's recent profitability inflection point, the shares continue to trade roughly in line with net cash and investments. While the shares have appreciated considerably this year, they remain undervalued and still trade at a price that is lower than two years ago. Gravity's valuation compares favorably to public companies such as Shanda Interactive Entertainment (SNDA), Giant Interactive Group (GA), NetEase.com (NTES), Perfect World (PWRD), and The9 Limited (NCTY).


Disclosure: Long GRVY, no position in SNDA, GA, NTES, PWRD, NCTY.

Paul Sonkin on Steinway: 'Earnings Will Recover'

Paul Sonkin, Columbia Business School professor and manager of the Hummingbird Value Fund, highlighted a few interesting microcap investment opportunities in an interview with StreetCapitalist.com, published on August 10th. The companies mentioned in the interview include Fortress International (FIGI), Southpeak Interactive (SOPK), and Rand Logistics (RLOG).

Most notably, Sonkin likes grand piano and band instrument maker Steinway Musical Instruments (LVB). Says Sonkin,

"You always want to look for a catalyst but sometimes there is no catalyst. So with Steinway there’s no real catalyst there. Earnings will recover and that will be the catalyst but the catalyst isn’t obvious and when it is obvious it’s too late."
Sonkin also addressed Steinway in a recent interview with Forbes:

Steinway was the subject of an investment profile in the June issue of Portfolio Manager's Review, which pointed out Steinway's hidden real estate value. According to PMR,

"Steinway has leading market shares in the premium piano and U.S. band instrument markets, world-class brand names, and significant “hidden” real estate holdings, including a prime Manhattan office building and property on the Queens waterfront. While demand for Steinway instruments collapsed in Q1 and is expected to remain soft, it is quite clear that the shares are a bargain. The company bought back some debt at a discount in Q1, signaling management confidence in the liquidity position."

Click here to read the Steinway Musical Instruments investment profile.

Disclosure: No positions.

Bruce Berkowitz Adds to Hertz, Trims American Express

The Fairholme Fund, Semi-Annual Report 2009 (includes Bruce Berkowitz's Commentary)


THE FAIRHOLME FUND A NO-LOAD CAPITAL APPRECIATION FUND FAIRX FAIRHOLME Ignore the crowd. SEMI-ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE SIX MONTHS ENDED MAY 31, 2009 FAIRHOLMEFUNDS.COM 866.202.2263 VALUE OF $10,000 INVESTED AT INCEPTION (UNAUDITED) THE FAIRHOLME FUND VS. THE S&P 500 INDEX Fairholme Fund $40,000 38,000 36,000 34,000 32,000 30,000 28,000 26,000 24,000 22,000 20,000 18,000 16,000 14,000 12,000 10,000 8,000 6,000 4,000 04 11 /3 0/ 20 00 02 06 7 /2 9/ 19 99 11 /3 0 31 30 /2 00 8 /2 00 9 11 / 5/ 01 03 05 0/ 20 0/ 20 30 0/ 20 0/ 20 0/ 20 0 /2 0 /2 0 S&P 500 $28,461 $7,430 /3 11 / 11 /3 11 /3 /3 The chart above covers the period from inception of The Fairholme Fund (the “Fund”) (December 29, 1999) to the end of the most recent fiscal semi-annual period (May 31, 2009). The following notes pertain to the chart above as well as the performance table included in the Management Discussion and Analysis that follows the Portfolio Manager’s Report. Performance information in this report represents past performance and is not a guarantee of future results. The investment return and principal value of an investment in the Fund will fluctuate, so that an investor’s shares when redeemed, may be worth more or less than their original cost. Current performance may be higher or lower than the performance quoted within. Any questions you have, including obtaining the latest month-end performance, can be answered by calling the Fund at 1-866-202-2263 or by visiting the Fund’s website at www.fairholmefunds.com. Data for both the S&P 500 Index and the Fund are presented assuming all dividends and distributions have been reinvested and do not reflect any taxes that might have been incurred by a shareholder as a result of Fund distributions. The S&P 500 Index is a widely recognized, unmanaged index of 500 of the largest companies in the United States as measured by market capitalization and does not reflect any investment management fees or transaction expenses, nor the effects of taxes, fees or other charges. 12 11 11 11 /3 THE FAIRHOLME FUND PORTFOLIO MANAGER’S REPORT For the Six Months Ended June 30, 2009 This Portfolio Manager’s Report is based on calendar year performance and precedes a more formal Management Discussion & Analysis. Opinions of the Portfolio Manager are intended as such, and not as statements of fact requiring attestation. All references to portfolio investments are as of the latest public filing of the Fund’s holdings at the time of publication. Mutual fund investing involves risks including loss of principal. Performance information quoted herein represents past performance and is not a guarantee of future results. The investment return and principal values of an investment in the Fund will fluctuate, so that an investor’s shares when redeemed, may be worth more or less than their original cost. Current performance may be higher or lower than the performance information quoted within. The Fund imposes a 2% redemption fee on shares held less than 60 days. Performance data does not reflect the redemption fee, which if imposed, would reduce returns. Any questions you have regarding the latest month-end performance can be obtained by calling shareholder services at 1-866-202-2263 or by visiting the Fund’s website at www.fairholmefunds.com. Additional information regarding the risks of investing in the Fund may be found in the Fund’s current Prospectus and Statement of Additional Information. The S&P 500 Index is a broad-based unmanaged index of 500 stocks, which is widely recognized as representative of the U.S. equity market in general. Investors cannot invest directly in an index. Please refer to the back cover of this document for additional important disclosures. July 29, 2009 To the Shareholders and Directors of the Fairholme Fund: Below is a comparison of the Fund’s unaudited performance (after expenses) with that of the S&P 500 Index (before expenses), both with dividends and distributions reinvested, for the period ending June 30, 2009: Performance to 6/30/09 Six Months One Year Three Years Five Years Since Inception 12/29/1999 ———— ———— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— Cumulative: The Fairholme Fund S&P 500 Index Annualized: The Fairholme Fund S&P 500 Index 16.21% 3.16% -13.18% -26.21% -13.18% -26.21% -1.65% -22.70% -0.55% -8.22% 44.21% -10.72% 7.60% -2.24% 195.07% -25.55% 12.06% -3.06% The Fund’s Expense Ratio at May 31, 2009 is 1.00%. In the Fund’s current prospectus dated March 17, 2009, the Fund’s Expense Ratio is 1.02%. 1 THE FAIRHOLME FUND PORTFOLIO MANAGER’S REPORT (Continued) For the Six Months Ended June 30, 2009 In the first half of 2009, The Fairholme Fund earned a total return of 16.21% versus the S&P 500 Index return of 3.16%. This was a period of sharp market moves to say the least. From the end of December to early March, the S&P 500 sank 25%. Then, from March 9 through June 12, the index surged 40%. The index then declined in the last two weeks of June, leaving the index slightly positive for the six-month period. We were able to outperform in the past six months as well as in the trailing one- , three- , and five-year periods because our policy is always to keep adequate cash on hand. Cash is defensive when the market goes into a tailspin. Cash also allows us to be opportunistic in snapping up stocks that get unfairly battered. When panic sets in, as it did many times over the last year, some market participants are forced to sell without regard to price. Cheap stocks are not necessarily good investments. A cheap stock can become cheaper, as was proven over and over again over the past twelve months. Many once-unassailable blue-chip stocks were brought to their knees. World-class banks and financial companies required government assistance to weather the maelstrom. General Motors went through bankruptcy, which would have been unthinkable a decade ago. Successful investing is about getting much more cash over time than you give. Buying cheap relative to expected cash flows is half the battle. Today, even though the market is up significantly from the March lows, the investments we own appear undervalued reflecting the market’s hangover from years of irrational exuberance. For sure, it will take a long time to repair the damaged balance sheets of individuals, corporations and entire nations. Still, we are hopeful that the global economy is on the mend. One of our canaries in the economic coal mine is Hertz Global Holdings. In a June 25 interview on CNBC, Hertz CEO Mark Frissora said “we’ve seen continuous improvement every single week for the last 10 weeks in the US rent-a-car space on improving demand for the summer season. We’ve been buying a lot of cars the last eight weeks…. We’re scrambling to buy as many cars as we can.” Others are beginning to chirp, but are less sanguine. At this time, healthcare and defense remain significant sectors for the Fund. We believe many companies in these sectors are undervalued as they offer essential services and products, have few if any substitutes and have strong cash flows. What’s more, their margins are high enough to assure a steady stream of profits but not so high as to draw in competitors. We believe they are in the sweet spot. 2 THE FAIRHOLME FUND PORTFOLIO MANAGER’S REPORT (Continued) For the Six Months Ended June 30, 2009 Since our start about nine and a half years ago through June 30, 2009, the Fund has appreciated at an average annualized rate of 12.06% compared to an average annualized loss of 3.06% for the S&P 500 Index. A $10,000 investment at The Fairholme Fund’s inception has grown to $29,507 after expenses while $10,000 invested in the S&P 500 Index for the same period has shrunk to $7,445 before expenses. The Fund’s tenets are as always: Vigilance, Focus, Commitment and Value. Numerous shareholders have entrusted the Fund with much of their long-term investments and defending this principal against permanent loss remains our number one priority. To hammer this home, the Managing Member of Fairholme Capital Management, LLC has the lion’s share of his family’s long-term investments in The Fairholme Fund on the same terms and conditions as all the other shareholders. In September, Fairholme will hold a semi-annual conference call and webcast for shareholders. Please visit www.fairholmefunds.com for the details. Thank you for your continued support and trust, FAIRHOLME CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, LLC 3 THE FAIRHOLME FUND MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION & ANALYSIS For the Six Months Ended May 31, 2009 At May 31, 2009, the end of the second fiscal quarter of 2009, the unaudited net asset value (“NAV”) attributable to the 331,990,660 shares outstanding of The Fairholme Fund (the “Fund”) was $24.48 per share. This compares with an audited NAV of $20.95 per share at November 30, 2008, and an unaudited NAV of $33.54 per share at May 31, 2008. At June 30, 2009, the unaudited NAV was $25.38 per share. Performance figures below are shown as of the end of the Fund’s second fiscal quarter at May 31, 2009 and do not match calendar year figures for the period ended June 30, 2009 cited in the Portfolio Manager’s Report. Performance to 5/31/09 Six Months One Year Three Years Five Years Since Inception 12/29/1999 ———— ———— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— ——— Cumulative: The Fairholme Fund S&P 500 Index Annualized: The Fairholme Fund S&P 500 Index 19.84% 4.05% -25.14% -32.57% -25.14% -32.57% -5.24% -22.75% -1.78% -8.24% 39.17% -9.16% 6.83% -1.90% 184.61% -25.70% 11.74% -3.10% For the six months ended May 31, 2009, the Fund outperformed the S&P 500 by 15.79 percentage points while over the last year the Fund outperformed the S&P 500 by 7.43 percentage points. From inception, the Fund outperformed the S&P 500 Index by an average annual rate of 14.81 or, on a cumulative basis, by 210.31 over nine years and five months. In the opinion of Fairholme Capital Management, LLC (“Manager” or “Management”), performance over short intervals is likely to be less meaningful than a comparison of longer periods. Further, shareholders should note that the S&P 500 Index is an unmanaged index incurring no fees, expenses, or tax effects and is shown solely to compare the Fund’s performance to that of an unmanaged and diversified index of 500 large U.S. corporations. The following charts show the top ten disclosed holdings by issuer and top ten disclosed holdings’ categories of the Fund at May 31, 2009, listed by their percentage of the Fund’s net assets. Portfolio holdings are subject to change without notice. 4 THE FAIRHOLME FUND MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION & ANALYSIS (Continued) For the Six Months Ended May 31, 2009 Top Ten Holdings by Issuer* (% of Net Assets) Pfizer, Inc. Sears Holdings Corp. Hertz Global Holdings, Inc. The St. Joe Co. AmeriCredit Corp. Forest Laboratories, Inc. WellPoint, Inc. United Rental, Inc. Spirit Aerosystems Holdings, Inc., Class A Leucadia National Corp. 14.3% 8.8% 6.8% 6.7% 5.5% 4.6% 4.3% 3.3% 3.2% 3.0% Top Ten Categories (% of Net Assets) Pharmaceuticals Cash and Cash Equivalents** Managed Health Care Aerospace & Defense Commercial Services & Supplies Retail Department Stores Consumer Finance Real Estate Management & Development Diversified Holding Companies Oil & Gas Drilling 18.9% 17.2% 11.1% 10.4% 10.0% 8.8% 8.7% 6.7% 3.0% 2.3% —— —— —— —— —— —— —— —— —— —— —— —— 60.5% 97.1% * Excludes cash, money market funds, and U.S. Treasury Bills ** Includes money market funds and U.S. Treasury Bills During the first six months of the 2009 fiscal year, the Fund initiated positions in the following disclosed investment: Loan Participations and Assignments Spanish Broadcasting System, Inc. Tranche B Loan 2.970%, 06/10/2012 The Fund also increased and decreased existing portfolio holdings. Such changes may not appear obvious due to additions or withdrawals of capital as a result of Fund share purchases or redemptions. During the first six months of the fiscal year, the Fund materially disposed of holdings in the following investments: Common Stocks Canadian Natural Resources Ltd. DISH Network Corp. EchoStar Corp. Mueller Water Products, Inc. Jefferies Group, Inc. Corporate Bonds FMG Finance Pty Ltd. 10.00%, 09/01/2013 5 THE FAIRHOLME FUND MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION & ANALYSIS (Continued) For the Six Months Ended May 31, 2009 Not all dispositions or additions to the portfolio are material, and, while the Fund and its Manager have long-term objectives, it is possible that a security sold or purchased in one period will be purchased or sold in a subsequent period. Generally, the Fund’s Manager determines to buy and sell based on its estimates of the absolute and relative intrinsic values and fundamental dynamics of a particular corporation and its industry, and not on short-term price movements. However, certain strategies of the Manager in carrying out the Fund’s investment policies may result in shorter holding periods. Investors are further cautioned not to rely on short-term results, both with respect to profits and losses on any individual investment in the Fund, as well as with respect to Fund shares themselves. Securities whose market value increases significantly affected the Fund’s overall portfolio value (including realized and unrealized gains) for the first six months of the fiscal year included holdings in the following investments: Common Stocks American Express Co. AmeriCredit Corp. Ensign Energy Services, Inc. Hertz Global Holdings, Inc. Northrop Grumman Corp. Sears Holdings Corp. Spirit Aerosystems Holdings, Inc. The St. Joe Co. UnitedHealth Group, Inc. WellPoint, Inc. Corporate Bonds The Hertz Corp. 8.875%, 01/01/2014 United Rentals, Inc. 7.750%, 11/15/2013 Securities whose market value declines significantly affected the Fund’s overall portfolio value (including realized and unrealized losses) for the first six months of the fiscal year included holdings in the following investment: Common Stocks Mueller Water Products, Inc. The fact that securities decline in value does not always indicate that the Manager believes these securities to be less attractive — in fact, the Manager believes that some price declines present buying opportunities. However, shareholders are cautioned that it is possible that some securities mentioned 6 THE FAIRHOLME FUND MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION & ANALYSIS (Continued) For the Six Months Ended May 31, 2009 in this discussion may no longer be owned by the Fund subsequent to the end of the fiscal period and that the Fund may have made significant new purchases that are not yet required to be disclosed. It is the Fund’s general policy not to disclose portfolio holdings other than when required by relevant law or regulation. The Manager invests Fund assets in securities to the extent it finds reasonable investment opportunities and the Fund may invest a significant portion of its assets in liquid, low-risk securities or cash. The Fund’s Manager views such liquidity as a strategic asset and may invest a significant portion of its cash and liquid assets in other more risky securities at any time, particularly under situations where markets are weak or a particular industry’s securities decline sharply. At May 31, 2009, the Fund’s liquidity (consisting of cash, money market funds, and U.S. Treasury Bills) represented 17.2% of Fund assets. It should be noted that since inception, the Fund has held, on average, a significant percentage of assets in liquid low-risk securities or cash without, in the opinion of the Manager, negatively influencing performance, although there is no guarantee that future performance will not be negatively affected by the Fund’s liquidity. The Fund’s Management, Board, and Manager are aware that large cash inflows may adversely affect Fund performance. However, Management of the Fund, after consulting with the Fund’s Manager, does not believe that inflows have negatively affected performance. To the contrary, the Manager believes that such cash inflows have helped the Fund make opportunistic investments. Management and the Board monitor cash inflows and outflows and intend, after consultation with the Fund’s Manager, to take appropriate actions if they believe future performance is likely to be negatively impacted by net inflows. As of the date of this report, no such actions are contemplated. The Fund transacts in non-U.S. securities and securities of corporations domiciled outside of the United States. It is the intent of the Fund to have the Manager employ a consistent value-based investment philosophy which may expose the Fund to risk of adverse changes resulting from foreign currency fluctuations or other potential risks as described in the Fund’s Prospectus and Statement of Additional Information. The Fund is also considered to be “non-diversified” under the Investment Company Act of 1940 (the “1940 Act”), which means that the Fund can invest a greater percentage of its assets in fewer securities than a diversified fund. The Fund may also have a greater percentage of its assets invested in particular industries than a diversified fund, exposing the Fund to the risk of unanticipated industry conditions as well as risks specific to a single corporation. 7 THE FAIRHOLME FUND MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION & ANALYSIS (Continued) For the Six Months Ended May 31, 2009 The independent Directors of the Board continue to believe that it is in the best interests of the Fund’s shareholders to have Mr. Berkowitz serve as Chairman of the Board given: his experience, commitment, and significant personal investment in the Fund; the present constitution of the Fund’s Board and policies; and current rules and regulations. At May 31, 2009: a majority of the Board is by statute independent of the Manager; no stock option or restricted stock plans exist; Officers receive no direct compensation from the Fund; and Directors who are also employees of the Manager receive no compensation for being Directors. The Officers and Directors (and their affiliates) of the Fund continue to have a significant and increasing personal stake in the Fund, holding an aggregate 3,513,000 shares with a value of $85,998,240 at May 31, 2009. While there is no requirement that Officers and Directors own shares of the Fund, the Officers and Directors believe that such holdings help to align the interests of the Fund’s Management and the Board with those of the Fund’s shareholders. Since inception, the Fund has been advised by Fairholme Capital Management, LLC. Certain Directors and Officers of Fairholme Funds, Inc. are also Members and Officers of Fairholme Capital Management, LLC or FCM Services, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of Fairholme Capital Management, LLC. For more complete information about the Fund, or to obtain a current prospectus, please visit www.fairholmefunds.com or call 1-866-202-2263. 8 THE FAIRHOLME FUND EXPENSE EXAMPLE May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) As a shareholder of the Fund, you incur two types of costs: direct costs, which may include, but are not limited to, transaction fees at some broker-dealers, custodial fees for retirement accounts, redemption fees (on shares redeemed within 60 days of purchase), and wire transfer fees. As a shareholder, you also incur indirect costs, such as the management fee paid to the Manager of the Fund. The following example is intended to help you understand your indirect costs (also referred to as “ongoing costs” and measured in dollars) when investing in the Fund and to compare these costs with the ongoing costs of investing in other mutual funds. This example below is based on an investment of $1,000 invested in the Fund at December 1, 2008 and held for the entire six month period ending May 31, 2009. Actual Expenses The first line of the table on the following page provides information about actual account values and actual expenses. You may use the information in this line, together with the amount you had invested at the beginning of the period, to estimate the expenses that you paid over the period. Simply divide your account value by $1,000 (for example, an $8,600 account value divided by $1,000 = 8.6), then multiply the result by the number in the first line under the heading “Expenses Paid During the Period” to estimate the expenses you paid on your Fund holdings during this period. Hypothetical Example for Comparison Purposes The second line of the table provides information about hypothetical account values and hypothetical expenses based on the Fund’s actual expense ratio and an assumed rate of return of 5% per year before expenses, which is not the Fund’s actual return for the period presented. The hypothetical account values and expenses may not be used to estimate the actual ending account balance or expenses that you paid for the period presented. However, you may use this information to compare ongoing costs of investing in the Fund with the ongoing costs of investing in other funds. To do so, compare this 5% hypothetical example with the 5% examples that appear in the shareholder reports of other funds. 9 THE FAIRHOLME FUND EXPENSE EXAMPLE (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Please note that the column titled “Expenses Paid During the Period” in the table below is meant to highlight your ongoing costs only. Therefore, the second line of the table is useful in comparing ongoing costs only, does not reflect any direct costs, and will not help you determine the relative total costs of owning different funds. In addition, if these direct costs were included, your total costs would be higher. Expenses Paid During the Period* December 1, 2008 Through May 31, 2009 —————————— ————————— Beginning Account Value December 1, 2008 —————————— Ending Account Value May 31, 2009 Actual Hypothetical (5% return before expenses) $1,000.00 $1,000.00 $1,198.40 $1,019.95 $5.48 $5.04 * Expenses are equal to the Fund’s annualized expense ratio of 1.00%, multiplied by the average account value over the period, multiplied by 182 days/365 days (to reflect the one-half year period). The Fund’s Ending Account Value on the first line in the table is based on its actual total return of 19.84% for the six-month period of December 1, 2008 to May 31, 2009. 10 THE FAIRHOLME FUND SCHEDULE OF INVESTMENTS May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Shares ——— DOMESTIC EQUITY SECURITIES — 70.1% 2,078,100 4,863,000 18,808,600 5,327,800 AEROSPACE & DEFENSE — 10.4% General Dynamics Corp. Northrop Grumman Corp. Spirit Aerosystems Holdings, Inc., Class A (a) The Boeing Co. $ 118,243,890 231,576,060 258,618,250 238,951,830 847,390,030 COMMERCIAL SERVICES & SUPPLIES — 4.4% Hertz Global Holdings, Inc. (a)(b) United Rentals, Inc. (a)(b) Value —————— 46,371,900 8,197,518 317,647,515 38,938,211 356,585,726 5,882,750 31,814,670 CONSUMER FINANCE — 6.8% American Express Co. AmeriCredit Corp. (a)(b)(c) 146,186,338 404,364,456 550,550,794 11,893,274 DIVERSIFIED HOLDING COMPANIES — 3.0% Leucadia National Corp. (a) MANAGED HEALTH CARE — 11.1% Humana, Inc. (a) UnitedHealth Group, Inc. WellCare Health Plans, Inc. (a)(b) WellPoint, Inc. (a) 248,331,561 7,793,900 8,642,400 4,218,200 7,430,900 244,182,887 229,887,840 80,145,800 346,057,013 900,273,540 15,888,800 76,483,000 PHARMACEUTICALS — 18.9% Forest Laboratories, Inc. (a)(b) Pfizer, Inc. 376,405,672 1,161,776,770 1,538,182,442 The accompanying notes are an integral part of the financial statements. 11 THE FAIRHOLME FUND SCHEDULE OF INVESTMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Shares ——— REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT & DEVELOPMENT — 6.7% The St. Joe Co. (a)(b) RETAIL DEPARTMENT STORES — 8.8% Sears Holdings Corp. (a)(b) Value —————— 21,360,902 $ 545,557,437 12,514,971 711,476,101 TOTAL DOMESTIC EQUITY SECURITIES (COST $6,711,155,287) FOREIGN EQUITY SECURITIES — 3.4% AUSTRALIA — 1.1% 42,452,337 METALS & MINING — 1.1% Fortescue Metals Group Ltd. (a) CANADA — 2.3% 12,104,100 OIL & GAS DRILLING — 2.3% Ensign Energy Services, Inc. (b) UNITED KINGDOM — 0.0% DIVERSIFIED FINANCIAL SERVICES — 0.0% JZ Capital Partners Ltd. 5,698,347,631 89,079,867 184,153,058 4,325,926 3,006,543 TOTAL FOREIGN EQUITY SECURITIES (COST $364,140,539) FOREIGN RIGHTS — 0.0% UNITED KINGDOM — 0.0% DIVERSIFIED FINANCIAL SERVICES — 0.0% JZ Capital Partners Ltd., expire 06/16/09 (a)(d) 276,239,468 10,093,827 0 TOTAL FOREIGN RIGHTS (COST $0) 0 The accompanying notes are an integral part of the financial statements. 12 THE FAIRHOLME FUND SCHEDULE OF INVESTMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Principal ———— ASSET BACKED SECURITIES — 1.4% $ 50,645,000 72,581,000 CONSUMER FINANCE — 1.4% AmeriCredit Automobile Receivables Trust 10.750%, 04/06/2015 (e)(f) 13.150%, 04/06/2015 (e)(f) Value —————— $ 45,960,337 68,951,950 TOTAL ASSET BACKED SECURITIES (COST $114,411,951) DOMESTIC CORPORATE BONDS — 6.1% COMMERCIAL SERVICES & SUPPLIES — 5.6% The Hertz Corp. 8.875%, 01/01/2014 (b) United Rental, Inc. 6.500%, 02/15/2012 (b) United Rental, Inc. 7.750%, 11/15/2013 (b) 114,912,287 253,975,000 15,100,000 260,586,000 231,117,250 14,118,500 212,377,590 457,613,340 43,644,000 CONSUMER FINANCE — 0.5% AmeriCredit Corp. 8.500%, 07/01/2015 (b)(c)(d) 41,461,800 TOTAL DOMESTIC CORPORATE BONDS (COST $435,452,536) FLOATING RATE LOAN INTERESTS — 0.4% MEDIA/BROADCASTING — 0.4% 60,964,691 Spanish Broadcasting System, Inc. Tranche B Loan 2.970%, 06/10/2012 (d)(e)(g) 499,075,140 33,530,580 TOTAL FLOATING RATE LOAN INTERESTS (COST $26,621,419) 33,530,580 The accompanying notes are an integral part of the financial statements. 13 THE FAIRHOLME FUND SCHEDULE OF INVESTMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Principal ———— $ 100,000,000 100,000,000 88,000,000 93,000,000 100,000,000 90,000,000 100,000,000 100,000,000 100,000,000 100,000,000 100,000,000 100,000,000 50,000,000 U.S. GOVERNMENT OBLIGATIONS — 15.0% T-Bill 0.158%, 06/04/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.135%, 06/11/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.055%, 06/18/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.102%, 06/25/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.150%, 07/02/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.084%, 07/09/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.151%, 07/16/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.104%, 07/23/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.111%, 07/30/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.079%, 08/06/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.160%, 08/13/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.145%, 08/20/2009 (h) T-Bill 0.158%, 08/27/2009 (h) Value —————— $ 99,998,437 99,994,750 87,994,947 92,989,340 99,982,606 89,987,544 99,980,937 99,982,306 99,979,200 99,975,200 99,974,200 99,970,700 49,983,700 TOTAL U.S. GOVERNMENT OBLIGATIONS (COST $1,220,781,748) Shares ——— 174,178,920 1,000,000 MONEY MARKET FUNDS — 2.2% Dreyfus Treasury Prime Cash Management, 0.03% (i) Fidelity Institutional Money Market Funds – Treasury Only Portfolio, 0.17% (i) 1,220,793,867 174,178,920 1,000,000 175,178,920 102,524,256 8,120,602,149 5,338,492 $8,125,940,641 TOTAL MONEY MARKET FUNDS (COST $175,178,920) MISCELLANEOUS INVESTMENTS — 1.3% (j) (COST $98,832,328) TOTAL INVESTMENTS — 99.9% (COST $9,146,574,728) OTHER ASSETS IN EXCESS OF LIABILITIES — 0.1% TOTAL NET ASSETS — 100.0% The accompanying notes are an integral part of the financial statements. 14 THE FAIRHOLME FUND SCHEDULE OF INVESTMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Percentages are stated as a percent of total net assets. (a) Non-income producing security. (b) Affiliated Company. See footnote 7. (c) Security is treated as an illiquid security according to the Fund’s liquidity guidelines. The market value of these securities totals $445,826,256, which represents 5.49% of total net assets. (d) Security fair valued under procedures approved by the Board of Directors. The procedures may include reviewing available financial information about the company and reviewing the valuation of comparable securities and other factors on a regular basis. The market value of these securities totals $74,992,380, which represents 0.92% of total net assets. (e) Restricted security as defined in Rule 144(a) under the Securities Act of 1933. Such security is treated as a illiquid security according to the Fund’s liquidity guidelines. The market value of these securities totals $148,442,867, which represents 1.83% of total net assets. (f) Restricted and illiquid security under procedures approved by the Board of Directors and according to the Fund’s liquidity guidelines. The market value of these securities totals $114,912,287, which represents 1.41% of total net assets. Information related to these securities is as follows: Acquisition Principal Amount ————— ———— 05/31/09 Carrying Value Per Unit ——— ——— Issuer ———————————————— ——————————————— Acquisition Date ———— ———— Acquisition Cost ———— ———— $50,645,000 72,581,000 AmeriCredit Automobile Receivables Trust, 10.750%, 04/06/2015 AmeriCredit Automobile Receivables Trust, 13.150%, 04/06/2015 11/25/08 11/25/08 $44,166,846 $90.7500 69,026,679 95.0000 (g) Variable rate security. The rate shown is as of May 31, 2009. (h) Rates shown are the effective yields based on the purchase price. The calculation assumes the security is held to maturity. (i) Annualized based on the 1-day yield as of May 31, 2009. (j) Represents previously undisclosed securities which the Fund has held for less than one year. The accompanying notes are an integral part of the financial statements. 15 THE FAIRHOLME FUND STATEMENT OF ASSETS & LIABILITIES May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Assets Investments, at Fair Value: Unaffiliated Issuers (Cost — $5,493,071,307) Affiliated Issuers (Cost — $3,653,503,421) Total Investments, at Fair Value (Cost — $9,146,574,728) Dividends and Interest Receivable Receivable for Capital Shares Sold Total Assets Liabilities Payable for Capital Shares Redeemed Payable for Investments Purchased Payable to Custodian Accrued Management Fees Total Liabilities Net Assets Paid-In Capital Accumulated Undistributed Net Investment Income Net Accumulated Realized Loss on Investments and Foreign Currency Related Transactions Net Unrealized Depreciation on Investments NET ASSETS Shares of Common Stock Outstanding* ($0.0001 par value) Net Asset Value, Offering and Redemption Price Per Share ($8,125,940,641 / 331,990,660 shares) *400,000,000 shares authorized in total. $ 4,962,838,759 3,157,763,390 ———————— 8,120,602,149 31,371,696 34,364,131 ———————— 8,186,337,976 ———————— 8,452,247 36,362,317 8,958,680 6,624,091 ———————— 60,397,335 ———————— 9,627,281,090 69,731,008 (545,098,878) (1,025,972,579) ———————— $ 8,125,940,641 ———————— ———————— 331,990,660 ———————— $ 24.48 ———————— ———————— The accompanying notes are an integral part of the financial statements. 16 THE FAIRHOLME FUND STATEMENT OF OPERATIONS (Unaudited) For the Six Months Ended May 31, 2009 ——————— —————— Investment Income Interest — Unaffiliated Issuers Interest — Affiliated Issuers Dividends — Unaffiliated Issuers (net of $182,943 in foreign taxes withheld) Dividends — Affiliated Issuers (net of $249,013 in foreign taxes withheld) Total Investment Income Expenses Management Fees Other Expenses Total Expenses Net Investment Income Realized and Unrealized Gain (Loss) on Investments and Foreign Currency Related Transactions Net Realized Loss on Investments Unaffiliated Issuers Affiliated Issuers Net Realized Gain on Foreign Currency Related Transactions Net Change in Unrealized Appreciation on Investments and Foreign Currency Related Transactions Net Realized and Unrealized Gain on Investments and Foreign Currency Related Transactions NET INCREASE IN NET ASSETS FROM OPERATIONS $ 12,625,566 37,641,838 57,040,852 1,499,009 ————— ———— 108,807,265 ————— ———— 34,489,020 125,000 ————— ———— 34,614,020 ————— ———— 74,193,245 ————— ———— (423,433,681) (112,946,191) 15,794 1,677,661,056 ————— ———— 1,141,296,978 ————— ———— $1,215,490,223 ————— ———— ————— ———— The accompanying notes are an integral part of the financial statements. 17 THE FAIRHOLME FUND STATEMENTS OF CHANGES IN NET ASSETS For the Six Months Ended May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) For the Fiscal Year Ended November 30, 2008 CHANGE IN NET ASSETS From Operations Net Investment Income Net Realized Gain (Loss) on Investments and Foreign Currency Related Transactions Net Change in Unrealized Appreciation (Depreciation) on Investments and Foreign Currency Related Transactions Net Increase (Decrease) in Net Assets from Operations From Dividends and Distributions to Shareholders Net Investment Income Net Realized Capital Gains from Investment Transactions Net Decrease in Net Assets from Dividends and Distributions From Capital Share Transactions Proceeds from Sale of Shares Shares Issued in Reinvestment of Dividends Redemption Fees Cost of Shares Redeemed Net Increase in Net Assets from Shareholder Activity NET ASSETS Net Increase in Net Assets Net Assets at Beginning of Period/Year Net Assets at End of Period/Year Accumulated Undistributed Net Investment Income SHARES TRANSACTIONS Issued Reinvested Redeemed Net Increase in Shares Shares Outstanding at Beginning of Period/Year Shares Outstanding at End of Period/Year ——————— —————— $ 74,193,245 (536,364,078) 1,677,661,056 ————— ————— 1,215,490,223 ————— ————— (33,453,214) ——————— —————— $ 34,311,730 133,265,240 (3,571,886,756) —————— ————— (3,404,309,786) —————— ————— (43,545,867) (137,548,911) (98,314,749) ————— — — — — — —————— ————— (171,002,125) (141,860,616) ————— — — — — — —————— ————— 1,856,995,209 5,800,468,916 158,280,356 134,547,239 1,503,551 2,928,398 (1,631,465,570) (2,158,644,498) ————— — — — — — —————— ————— 385,313,546 ————— ————— 1,429,801,644 6,696,138,997 ————— ————— $ 8,125,940,641 ————— ————— ————— ————— $ 69,731,008 ————— ————— ————— ————— 3,779,300,055 —————— ————— 233,129,653 6,463,009,344 —————— ————— $ 6,696,138,997 —————— ————— —————— ————— $ 28,988,917 —————— ————— —————— ————— 195,768,760 88,261,859 7,494,335 4,300,008 (80,548,048) (83,365,587) ————— — — — — — —————— ————— 12,390,607 119,520,720 319,600,053 200,079,333 ————— — — — — — —————— ————— 331,990,660 319,600,053 ————— — — — — — —————— ————— ————— — — — — — —————— ————— The accompanying notes are an integral part of the financial statements. 18 THE FAIRHOLME FUND FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS For the Six For the Fiscal Year Months Ended Ended May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Nov. 30, 2008 ————— ———— ————— ————— For the For the For the For the Fiscal Year Fiscal Year Fiscal Year Fiscal Year Ended Ended Ended Ended Nov. 30, 2007 Nov. 30, 2006 Nov. 30, 2005 Nov. 30, 2004 ———— ———— ———— ———— ———— ———— ———— ———— NET ASSET VALUE, BEGINNING OF PERIOD/YEAR Investment Operations Net Investment Income Net Realized and Unrealized Gain/ (Loss) on Investments Total from Investment Operations Dividends and Distributions From Net Investment Income From Realized Capital Gains Total Distributions NET ASSET VALUE, END OF PERIOD/YEAR $20.95 —— —— 0.23(1) 3.84 —— —— 4.07 —— —— (0.11) (0.43) —— —— (0.54) —— —— $24.48 —— —— —— —— $32.30 —— —— 0.13(1) (10.78) —— —— (10.65) —— —— (0.22) (0.48) —— —— (0.70) —— —— $20.95 —— —— —— —— $29.40 —— —— 0.26(1) 3.05 —— —— 3.31 —— —— (0.24) (0.17) —— —— (0.41) —— —— $32.30 —— —— —— —— $25.45 —— —— 0.31(1) 4.34 —— —— 4.65 —— —— (0.22) (0.48) —— —— (0.70) —— —— $29.40 —— —— —— —— $22.36 —— —— 0.38(1) 3.31 —— —— 3.69 —— —— (0.07) (0.53) —— —— (0.60) —— —— $25.45 —— —— —— —— $18.08 —— —— 0.01 4.28 —— —— 4.29 —— —— — (0.01) —— —— (0.01) —— —— $22.36 —— —— —— —— TOTAL RETURN 19.84%(2) (33.69)% 11.42% 18.71% 16.84% 23.71% Ratios/Supplemental Data Net Assets, End of Period/Year (in 000’s) $8,125,941 $6,696,139 $6,463,009 $3,701,457 $1,440,868 $235,018 Ratio of Expenses to Average Net Assets: Before Expenses Reimbursed 1.00% (3) 1.01% (4) 1.00% 1.00% 1.00% 1.00% After Expenses 1.01% (4) 1.00% 1.00%(5) 1.00% 1.00% Reimbursed 1.00% (3) Ratio of Net Investment Income to Average Net Assets 2.15% (3) 0.44% 0.85% 1.12% 1.55% 0.05% Portfolio Turnover Rate 19.33% (2) 81.35% 14.10% 20.27% 37.36% 23.33% (1) Based (2) Not on average shares outstanding. Annualized. (3) Annualized. (4) 0.01% is attributable to shareholder meeting expenses borne by the Fund outside of the normal 1.00% management fee. (5) Expenses reimbursed represent less than 0.01%. The accompanying notes are an integral part of the financial statements. 19 THE FAIRHOLME FUND NOTES TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Note 1. Organization Fairholme Funds, Inc. (the “Company”), a Maryland corporation, is registered under the Investment Company Act of 1940, as amended, as an open-end management investment company. The Company’s Articles of Incorporation permit the Board of Directors of the Company (the “Board” or the “Directors”) to issue 400,000,000 shares of common stock at $.0001 par value. The Board has the power to designate one or more separate and distinct series and/or classes of shares of common stock and to classify or reclassify any shares not issued with the respect to such series. 400,000,000 shares of one series have been allocated, which shares constitute the interests in the Fund, a non-diversified fund. The Fund’s investment objective is to provide long-term growth of capital. Under normal circumstances the Fund seeks to achieve the Fund’s investment objective by investing in a focused portfolio of equity and fixed-income securities. The proportion of the Fund’s assets invested in each type of asset class will vary from time to time based upon the Manager’s assessment of general market and economic conditions. The Fund may invest in, and may shift frequently among, the asset classes and market sectors. The equity securities in which the Fund invests include common and preferred stock (including convertible preferred stock), partnership interests, business trust shares, rights and warrants to subscribe for the purchase of equity securities and depository receipts. The Fund invests in equity securities without regard to the jurisdictions in which the issuers of the securities are organized or situated and without regard to the market capitalizations or sectors of such issuers. The fixed-income securities in which the Fund invests include U.S. corporate debt securities, non-U.S. corporate debt securities, U.S. government and agency debt securities, short-term debt obligations of foreign governments and foreign money-market instruments. Except for its investments in short-term debt obligations of foreign governments, the Fund invests in fixed-income securities without regard to maturity or the rating of the issuer of the security. “Special situation” investments may include either equity or fixed income investments such as corporate debt, which may be in a distressed position as a result of economic or company specific developments. Fairholme Capital Management, L.L.C. (the “Manager”) serves as investment adviser to the Fund. Note 2. Significant Accounting Policies The following is a summary of significant accounting policies followed by the Fund in the preparation of its financial statements. Security Valuation: Securities, which are traded on any exchange or on the NASDAQ over-the-counter market, are generally valued at the last quoted sale price 20 THE FAIRHOLME FUND NOTES TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) or using such other valuation methods that the Manager believes would provide a more accurate indication of fair value. Lacking a last sale price, a security is valued at its last bid price. All other securities for which over-the-counter market quotations are readily available are valued at their last bid price. When market quotations are not readily available, when the Manager determines the last bid price does not accurately reflect the current value or when restricted securities are being valued, such securities are valued as determined in good faith by the Manager, in conformity with guidelines adopted by and subject to review of the Directors. Fixed income securities generally are valued by using market quotations, but may be valued on the basis of prices furnished by a pricing service when the Manager believes such prices accurately reflect the fair market value of such securities. A pricing service utilizes electronic data processing techniques based on yield spreads relating to securities with similar characteristics to determine prices for normal institutional-size trading units of debt securities in addition to sale or bid prices. When prices are not readily available from a pricing service, or when restricted or illiquid securities are being valued, securities are valued at fair value as determined in good faith by the Manager, subject to review of the Directors. Short-term investments in fixed income securities with maturities of less than 60 days when acquired, or long-term securities which are within 60 days of maturity, are valued by using the amortized cost method of valuation, which the Manager and the Board have determined will approximate fair value. Statement of Financial Accounting Standard No. 157, “Fair Value Measurements” (“SFAS 157”) clarifies the definition of fair value for financial reporting, establishes a framework for measuring fair value, and requires additional disclosures about the use of fair value measurements. Various inputs are used in determining the value of the Fund’s investments. These inputs are summarized in the three broad levels of the fair value hierarchy under SFAS 157 listed below: Level 1 — Quoted prices in active markets for identical securities Level 2 — Other significant observable inputs (including quoted prices for similar securities, interest rates, prepayment speeds, credit risk, etc.) Level 3 — Significant unobservable inputs (including the Fund’s own assumptions in determining the fair value of investments) 21 THE FAIRHOLME FUND NOTES TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) The inputs or methodology used for valuing securities are not an indication of the risk associated with investing in those securities. The summary of the Fund’s investments by inputs used to value the Fund’s investments as of May 31, 2009 is as follows: Investments in Securities (Market Value) Assets Valuation Inputs ——————— —————— ——————— —————— Level 1 - Quoted Prices Level 2 - Other Significant Observable Inputs* Total * Includes $1,220,793,867 of U.S. Treasury Bills. ——————— —————— ——————— —————— ——————— —————— $6,164,483,954 1,956,118,195 $8,120,602,149 There were no Level 3 investments held at May 31, 2009 or November 30, 2008. In April 2009, the Financial Accounting Standards Board (“FASB”) issued FASB Staff Position No. 157-4, “Determining Fair Value when the Volume and Level of Activity for the Asset or Liability Have Significantly Decreased and Identifying Transactions That Are Not Orderly,” (“FSP 157-4”). FSP 157-4 is effective for fiscal years and interim periods ending after June 15, 2009. Management is currently evaluating the impact the implementation of FSP 157-4 will have on the Fund’s financial statement disclosures. Federal Income Taxes: The Fund intends to qualify each year as a “Regulated Investment Company” under the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended. By so qualifying, the Fund will not be subject to federal income taxes to the extent that it distributes all of its net investment income and any realized capital gains. Dividends and Distributions: The Fund intends to distribute substantially all of its net investment income as dividends to its shareholders on an annual basis. The Fund intends to distribute its net long-term capital gains and its net short-term capital gains at least once a year. Foreign Currency Translation: The books and records of the Fund are maintained in U.S. dollars. Foreign currency amounts are translated into U.S. dollars on the following basis: (i) fair value of investment securities, assets and liabilities at the current rate of exchange; and (ii) purchases and sales of investment securities, income and expenses at the relevant rates of exchange prevailing on the respective dates of such transactions. The Fund does not isolate that portion of gains and losses on investment securities which is due to changes in the foreign exchange rates from that which is due to changes in the market prices of such securities. 22 THE FAIRHOLME FUND NOTES TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Estimates: The preparation of financial statements in conformity with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America requires management to make estimates and assumptions that affect the reported amounts of assets and liabilities, and disclosure of both contingent assets and liabilities, at the date of the financial statements; and the reported amounts of revenues and expenses during the reported period. Actual results could differ from those estimates. Other: The Fund follows industry practice and accounts for security transactions on the trade date for financial statement purposes. The specific identification method is used for determining gains or losses for financial statements and income tax purposes. Dividend income is recorded on the ex-dividend date and interest income is recorded on an accrual basis. Discounts and premiums on securities purchased are amortized over the life of the respective securities using the constant yield method. Securities denominated in currencies other than U.S. dollars are subject to changes in value due to fluctuation in exchange rates. The Fund may invest in countries that require governmental approval for the repatriation of investment income, capital, or the proceeds of sales of securities by foreign investors. In addition, if there is deterioration in a country’s balance of payments or for other reasons, a country may impose temporary restrictions on foreign capital remittances abroad. Note 3. Related Party Transactions The Manager is a Delaware limited liability company and is registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission as an investment adviser. The Manager’s principal business and occupation is to provide financial management and advisory services to individuals, corporations, and other institutions throughout the world. Pursuant to the Investment Management Agreement, the Company pays a management fee to the Manager for its provision of investment advisory and operating services to the Company. The management fee is paid at an annual rate equal to 1.00% of the daily average net assets of the Fund. Under the Investment Management Agreement, the Manager is responsible for paying all Fund expenses including, but are not limited to, expenses for the following services: transfer agency, fund accounting, fund administration, custody, legal, audit, compliance, directors’ fees, call center, fulfillment, travel, insurance, rent, printing, postage and other office supplies, except for commissions and other brokerage fees, taxes, interest, litigation expenses, acquired fund fees and related expenses, and other extraordinary expenses. The Fund paid commissions, other brokerage fees, and security registration expenses during the period. The Manager earned $34,489,020 for their services during the six months ended May 31, 2009. Certain Directors and Officers of the Fund are also Members and Officers of the Manager or its affiliates. 23 THE FAIRHOLME FUND NOTES TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Note 4. Investments For the six months ended May 31, 2009, purchases and sales of investment securities, other than short-term investments, aggregated $1,184,044,565, and $1,753,216,730, respectively. Note 5. Tax Matters For U.S. federal income tax purposes, the cost of securities owned, gross appreciation, gross depreciation, and net unrealized appreciation/(depreciation) of investments at May 31, 2009 were as follows: Gross Unrealized Appreciation Gross Unrealized Depreciation Net Unrealized Depreciation ————— ————— Cost ————— ————— ——————— —————— ——————— —————— $9,159,814,688 $321,412,280 $(1,360,624,819) $(1,039,212,539) The difference between book basis and tax basis net unrealized appreciation/ (depreciation) is attributable primarily to the tax deferral of losses on wash sales. The Fund’s tax basis capital gains are determined only at the end of each fiscal year. Therefore, the components of distributable earnings on a tax basis will be included in the Annual Report dated November 30, 2009. Note 6. Dividends and Distributions to Shareholders Ordinary income and capital gain distributions are determined in accordance with Federal income tax regulations, which may differ from accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America. The tax character of dividends and distributions paid by the Fund was as follows: For the Six Months Ended May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) —————————— For the Fiscal Year Ended November 30, 2008 —————————— Distributions paid from: Ordinary Income Short-Term Capital Gain Long-Term Capital Gain $ 33,453,214 — 137,548,911 ———— ———— $ 171,002,125 ———— ———— ———— ———— $ 43,541,824 48,406,084 49,912,708 ———— ———— $141,860,616 ———— ———— ———— ———— 24 THE FAIRHOLME FUND NOTES TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) In regards to FASB Interpretation No. 48, “Accounting for Uncertainty in Income Taxes” (“FIN 48”) Management has analyzed the Fund's tax positions taken on federal income tax returns for all open tax years (current and prior three tax years), and has concluded that no provision for federal income tax is required in the Fund’s financial statements. The Fund’s federal and state income and federal excise tax returns for tax years for which the applicable statutes of limitations have not expired are subject to examination by the Internal Revenue Service and state departments of revenue. Management’s determination regarding FIN 48 may be subject to review and adjustment at a later date based on factors including, but not limited to, an ongoing analysis of tax laws, regulations, and interpretations thereof. Note 7. Transactions in Shares of Affiliates* Investments representing 5% or more of the outstanding voting securities of a portfolio company result in that company being considered an affiliated company, as defined in the 1940 Act. The aggregate fair value of all securities of affiliated companies held in the Fund as of May 31, 2009 amounted to $3,157,763,390 representing 38.86% of net assests. Transactions in the Fund during the six months ended May 31, 2009 in which the issuer was an “affiliated person” are as follows: 25 THE FAIRHOLME FUND NOTES TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) November 30, 2008 Shares/ Par Value Cost Gross Additions Shares/ Par Value Cost Gross Deductions Shares/ Par Value ——————— — ———— — —— — AmeriCredit Corp.(a) Ensign Energy Services, Inc. Forest Laboratories, Inc. Hertz Global Holdings, Inc. Mueller Water Products - Class B(b) Sears Holdings Corp. The St. Joe Co. United Rental, Inc. WellCare Health Plans, Inc. AmeriCredit Corp. 8.500%, 07/01/15(a) Sears Roebuck Acceptance Corp. 6.250%, 05/01/09(b) Sears Roebuck Acceptance Corp. 6.700%, 04/15/12(b) The Hertz Corp. 8.875%, 01/01/14 United Rental, Inc. 6.500%, 02/15/12 United Rental, Inc. 7.750%, 11/15/13 WellCare Traunche Loan 5.500%, 05/13/09 (b) Total —— —— ——— 16,692,000 11,614,700 16,556,100 18,630,100 6,985,900 11,239,671 9,654,700 8,291,818 4,145,200 $152,024,000 ——————— $ 199,228,670 202,076,265 546,918,488 127,456,844 99,122,823 1,056,090,389 310,621,238 144,230,328 146,541,372 119,569,020 ———————— — — ————— —————— ——————— 15,122,670 $ 86,437,475 489,400 100,000 27,741,800 — 1,579,900 12,153,702 — 73,000 $ — 4,538,655 2,127,110 154,272,069 — 60,239,378 261,327,804 — 965,183 — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — 767,300 — 6,985,900 304,600 447,500 94,300 — $108,380,000 $ 5,000,000 4,756,825 $ — — $ 5,000,000 $ — — 120,406,979 11,192,125 205,672,726 $ 6,000,000 $ 92,900,000 $ — 3,930,000 52,058,079 — 6,796,695 $ $ $ $ 6,000,000 — — — $161,075,000 $ 15,100,000 $248,686,000 $ 11,900,000 $ 98,964,870 95,908,576 — —— — — —— — $3,389,792,668 — —— — — —— — — —— — — —— — $ 11,299,555 10,038,814 ——————— — $ 642,731,262 ——————— — ——————— — $110,264,425 * As a result of the Fund’s beneficial ownership of the voting stock of these companies, it may be deemed that the Fund is an affiliate of the respective issuers, as required by the 1940 Act. (a) Company is considered an “affiliated company” due to Bruce R. Berkowitz being a member of the company’s Board of Directors. (b) Security is no longer held in the portfolio at May 31, 2009. 26 THE FAIRHOLME FUND NOTES TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Gross Deductions May 31, 2009 Shares/ Par Value Cost — — — — — — — — — — — — — Cost — — — $ — — 27,877,297 — 99,122,823 45,543,248 9,810,025 1,789,813 — 86,437,475 — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —————— ——————— 31,814,670 $ 285,666,145 12,104,100 15,888,800 46,371,900 — 12,514,971 21,360,902 8,197,518 4,218,200 $ 43,644,000 206,614,920 521,168,301 281,728,913 — 1,070,786,519 562,139,017 142,440,515 147,506,555 33,717,043 Fair Value ——————— $ 404,364,456 Realized Gain (Loss) ——————— $ — Investment Income —————— $ — 184,153,058 376,405,672 317,647,515 — 711,476,101 545,557,437 38,938,211 80,145,800 41,461,800 — (10,757,562) — (76,661,655) (27,122,551) 2,202,967 (994,256) — — 1,411,072 — — 87,938 — — — — 2,702,113 4,756,825 $ — — — — 366,620 3,930,000 — — — $ — — 174,373,993 11,676,671 215,684,829 — 231,117,250 14,118,500 212,377,590 381,112 — — — 67,411 15,092,231 685,040 13,412,518 $253,975,000 $ 15,100,000 $260,586,000 105,947,390 — —— — — —— — — — $ — —— — 385,214,896 — —— — — — — —— — — —— — — — $ — — — — —— — —— — — $ — ——— 3,653,503,421 — — — — — — — —— — —— — — — ———— ———— $3,157,763,390 ———— ———— ———— ———— 5,754 — ———— — —— — — $(112,946,191) — ———— — —— — — — ———— — —— — — 5,315,904 —— — — —— — $39,140,847 —— — — —— — —— — — —— — 27 THE FAIRHOLME FUND NOTES TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS (Continued) May 31, 2009 (Unaudited) Note 8. Indemnifications Under the Fund’s organizational documents, its Officers and Directors are indemnified against certain liabilities arising out of the performance of their duties to the Fund. In the normal course of business, the Fund enters into contracts that contain a variety of representations, which provided general indemnifications. The Fund’s maximum exposure under these arrangements is unknown as this would involve future claims that may be made against the Fund that have not yet occurred. However, based on its experience to date, the Fund expects the risk of loss to be remote. Note 9. Subsequent Events Management has evaluated the impact of all subsequent events on the Fund through July 23, 2009, the date the financial statements were issued, and has determined that there were no subsequent events requiring recognition or disclosure in the financial statements. 28 THE FAIRHOLME FUND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION May 31, 2009 Board of Directors (unaudited) The Board of Directors has overall responsibility for conduct of the Company’s affairs. The day-to-day operations of the Fund are managed by the Manager, subject to the Bylaws of the Company and review by the Board. The Directors, including those Directors who are also officers of the Company, are listed below. Position(s) Held with the Company Principal Occupation(s) During Past 5 Years Funds Overseen by Director Other Directorships Held by Director Name, Age & Address† Term of Office & Length of Time Served** Interested Directors and Officers Bruce R. Berkowitz* Age 50 Director, President Mr. Berkowitz has served as a Director of the Company since its inception on December 29, 1999. Mr. Alvarez has served as a Director of the Company since May 19, 2008. Managing Member, Fairholme Capital Management, LLC, a registered investment adviser, since October 1997. Chief Executive Officer of Greenberg Traurig, P.A. since 1997. 1 Director, White Mountains Insurance Group, Ltd.; Director, AmeriCredit Corp. Cesar L. Alvarez, Esq.* Age 61 Director 1 Chairman, Board of Directors, Mednax Medical Group, Inc.; Co-Leading Director, Watsco, Inc.; Director, Intrexon Corporation; Director, Texpack Inc. Director, Lakeview Health Systems, LLC; Director, Miami Children’s Hospital Foundation Charles M. Fernandez* Age 47 Director, Vice President Mr. Fernandez has served as a Director and a Vice President of the Company since November 5, 2008. President, Fairholme Capital Management, LLC since November 2008; Chief Operating Officer, Fairholme Capital Management LLC from 2007 to 2008; President, Lakeview Health Systems LLC from 2003 to 2007. 1 † Unless otherwise indicated, the address of each Director of the Company is c/o Fairholme Capital Management, LLC, 4400 Biscayne Blvd., 9th Floor, Miami, FL 33137. * Mssrs. Berkowitz, Fernandez and Alvarez are each an interested person, as defined in the 1940 Act, of the Company because of their affiliation with the Manager. ** Each Director serves for an indefinite term. Each officer serves for an annual term and until his or her successor is elected and qualified. 29 THE FAIRHOLME FUND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION (Continued) May 31, 2009 Board of Directors (unaudited) Position(s) Held with the Company Term of Office & Length of Time Served** Principal Occupation(s) During Past 5 Years Funds Overseen by Director Other Directorships Held by Director Name, Age & Address† Independent Directors^ Terry L. Baxter Age 63 Independent Director Mr. Baxter has served as a Director of the Company since May 19, 2008. Mr. Frank has served as a Director of the Company since May 7, 2007. Ms. Oppenheim has served as a Director of the Company since its inception on December 29, 1999. Mr. Walters has served as a Director of the Company since its inception on December 29, 1999. Retired. 1 Director, Main Street American Group Howard S. Frank Age 68 Independent Director Vice Chairman, Chief Operating Officer, and Director, Carnival Corporation & plc. Attorney-at-Law. 1 Director, Steamship Mutual Trust; Vice Chairman, New World Symphony None Avivith Oppenheim, Esq. Age 58 Independent Director 1 Leigh Walters, Esq. Age 63 Independent Director Vice-President and Director, Valcor Engineering Corporation. Attorney-at-Law. 1 Director, Valcor Engineering Corporation † Unless otherwise indicated, the address of each Director of the Company is c/o Fairholme Capital Management, LLC, 4400 Biscayne Blvd., 9th Floor, Miami, FL 33137. ^ Directors who are not “interested persons” of the Company as defined under the 1940 Act. ** Each Director serves for an indefinite term. Each officer serves for an annual term and until his or her successor is elected and qualified. 30 THE FAIRHOLME FUND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION (Continued) May 31, 2009 Board of Directors (unaudited) Additional Officers of the Company Name, Age & Address† Tim Biedrzycki Age 60 83 General Warren Blvd. Malvern, PA 19355 Kathryn S. Battistella Age 36 Position(s) Held with the Company Treasurer and Secretary Term of Office & Length of Time Served* Mr. Biedrzycki has served as the Treasurer of the Company since November 2008, and has served as Secretary of the Company since April 2009. Chief Compliance Officer Ms. Battistella has served as Chief Compliance Officer since January 2009 and previously served in the position from May 2006 to July 2008. † Unless otherwise indicated, the address of each Officer of the Company is c/o Fairholme Capital Management, LLC, 4400 Biscayne Blvd., 9th Floor, Miami, FL 33137. * Each officer serves for an annual term and until his or her successor is elected and qualified. 31 THE FAIRHOLME FUND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION (Continued) May 31, 2009 Proxy Voting Policies, Procedures and Records (unaudited) The Company has adopted policies and procedures which provide guidance and set forth parameters for the voting of proxies relating to securities held in the Fund’s portfolio. These policies, procedures and records for the twelve month period ended June 30, 2008 are available to you upon request and free of charge by writing to the Fairholme Funds, Inc., c/o PNC Global Investment Servicing (U.S.), Inc., P.O. Box 9692, Providence, RI, 02940, by calling shareholder services toll free at 1-866-202-2263, or by visiting the Company’s website at www.fairholmefunds.com. The Company’s proxy voting policies, procedures, and records may also be obtained by visiting the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”) “website at www.sec.gov. The Company shall respond to all shareholder requests for records within three business days of such request by first-class mail or other means designed to ensure prompt delivery. N-Q Filing (unaudited) The SEC has adopted the requirement that all funds file a complete schedule of investments with the SEC for their first and third fiscal quarters on Form N-Q. The Fairholme Fund files Form N-Q for the fiscal quarters ending February 28 (February 29 during leap year) and August 31. The Form N-Q filing must be made within 60 days of the end of the quarter. The Fairholme Fund Forms N-Q will be available on the SEC’s website at http://sec.gov, or they may be reviewed and copied at the SEC’s Public Reference Room in Washington, DC (call 1-800-732-0330 for information on the operation of the Public Reference Room). 32 [This page intentionally left blank.] Board of Directors CESAR L. ALVAREZ, ESQ. TERRY L. BAXTER BRUCE R. BERKOWITZ CHARLES M. FERNANDEZ HOWARD S. FRANK AVIVITH OPPENHEIM, ESQ. LEIGH WALTERS, ESQ. Officers BRUCE R. BERKOWITZ, PRESIDENT CHARLES M. FERNANDEZ, VICE PRESIDENT TIMOTHY K. BIEDRZYCKI, TREASURER AND SECRETARY KATHRYN S. BATTISTELLA, CHIEF COMPLIANCE OFFICER Investment Manager FAIRHOLME CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, L.L.C. 4400 BISCAYNE BLVD. MIAMI, FL 33137 305-358-3000 Dividend Paying Agent Transfer Agent PNC GLOBAL INVESTMENT SERVICING (U.S.), INC. 760 MOORE ROAD KING OF PRUSSIA, PA 19406 Custodian PFPC TRUST COMPANY (WHICH WILL BE RENAMED PNC TRUST COMPANY EFFECTIVE JUNE 7, 2010) 301 BELLEVUE PARKWAY WILMINGTON, DE 19809 Independent Registered Public Accounting Firm DELOITTE & TOUCHE LLP 1700 MARKET STREET PHILADELPHIA, PA 19103 Legal Counsel SEWARD & KISSEL, LLP 1200 G STREET, NW WASHINGTON, DC 20005 THIS REPORT IS PROVIDED FOR THE GENERAL INFORMATION OF THE SHAREHOLDERS OF THE FAIRHOLME FUND. IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR DISTRIBUTION TO PROSPECTIVE INVESTORS IN THE FUND UNLESS PRECEDED OR ACCOMPANIED BY AN EFFECTIVE PROSPECTUS, WHICH CONTAINS MORE INFORMATION ON FEES, CHARGES AND OTHER EXPENSES AND SHOULD BE READ CAREFULLY BEFORE INVESTING OR SENDING MONEY. PAST PERFORMANCE IS NOT A GUARANTEE OF FUTURE RESULTS. SHARES OF THE FUND ARE DISTRIBUTED BY PFPC DISTRIBUTORS, INC.

The recently released semi-annual report of The Fairholme Fund (FAIRX), a mutual fund managed by respected value investor Bruce Berkowitz, reveals some noteworthy portfolio changes during the fund's second fiscal quarter ended May 31st.

Berkowitz significantly boosted the fund's ownership of Hertz Global Holdings (HTZ) during the period, from 30.0 million shares at the end of February to 46.4 million shares at the end of May. Hertz shares rose sharply during the period, suggesting that Berkowitz was likely adding to his position at higher prices. The shares have continued their upward climb since the end of Fairholme's fiscal Q2, rising from $6.85 per share on May 29th to $10.93 as of August 7th. The rapid ascent of Hertz shares likely reflects investors' changed perception of the company's ability to service its considerable debt load, which amounted to roughly $9 billion, net of cash, at the end of June (most of the debt is used to finance Hertz's large inventory of rental vehicles). Hertz's earnings remain depressed, but analysts estimate that profitability will recover somewhat, to $0.33 per share, in 2010.

Another significant change to Fairholme's portfolio reflects Berkowitz's aggressive selling of American Express (AXP) shares following their strong bounce off a low of $9.71 per share in March.  The Fairholme Fund had built up a position of 17.7 million American Express shares at the end of February. Berkowitz reduced that position to 5.9 million shares at the end of May. AXP shares had risen from $12.06 per share on February 27th to $24.85 on May 29th. The largest holder of American Express remains Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A), with ownership of 13% of the payment card company.

In addition to the above major changes, The Fairholme Fund increased its ownership of Spirit Aerosystems (SPR), Humana (HUM), The St. Joe Co. (JOE), and Sears Holdings (SHLD) during the fiscal second quarter. Meanwhile, the fund cut back on Northrop Grumman (NOC), Boeing (BA), UnitedHealth Group (UNH), WellPoint (WLP), and Forest Labs (FRX). Berkowitz sold out of Canadian Natural Resources (CNQ) and Mueller Water (MWA) in the three months ended May 31st.

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Disclosure: No positions.

August 05, 2009

New Book By Marty Whitman of Third Avenue Funds: Distress Investing: Principles and Technique

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Financial innovation, new laws and regulations, and the financial meltdown of 2007-2008 are just a few of the forces that have shaped, and continue to shape, today's distress investment environment. Combine this with the fact that the descipline of distress investing doesn't always follow what conventional wisdom says, and you can see why it is one of the most challenging areas in finance.

Nobody understands this better than Martin Whitman--the legendary founder of Third Avenue Management LLC and a pioneer in the field of distressed markets--and leading academic Dr. Fernando Diz of Syracuse University. That's why they decided to write Distress Investing. As an outgrowth of annual distress and value investing seminars the two have taught together at Syracuse University's Martin J. Whitman School of Management, this reliable resource will help you gain a better understanding of the essential principles and techniques associated with distress investing and show you how to effectively apply them in the real world.

Martin J. Whitman is Chairman and co-CIO of Third Avenue Management LLC. He has taught courses in value investing and distressed investing for the past thirty years at the Schools of Management at both Syracuse University and Yale University. Whitman is also the author of the Wiley titles Value Investing and The Aggressive Conservative Investor.

View Distress Investing on Amazon.com.

(References: Financial Sense Newshour, Simoleon Sense)

August 01, 2009

Marty Whitman's Philosophy of Value Investing (Videos)

Marty Whitman of Third Avenue Funds is a value investing pioneer. Here are some great videos about investing.

On Graham and Dodd (and Today's Academics):

Thanks to Greenbackd for the find.

On Risk:

On Wall Street versus Main Street:

Background on Marty Whitman:

Where Is David Swensen Investing His Money? (video)

Here are some never-before aired portions of Consuelo Mack's wide ranging May 2009 interview with Yale's renowned endowment chief, David Swensen. In this video, Swensen assesses the new investment reality and talks about where he is investing his and his family's money.

Jean-Marie Eveillard and Marty Whitman on Wealth Track, May 2009 (video)

Evillard and Whitman need no introduction. Well worth watching.

John Rogers and Robert Kleinschmidt on Wealth Track, June 2009 (video)

John Rogers of Ariel and Robert Kleinschmidt of Tocqueville are value investors worth watching.

Official intro: "Meet two veteran contrarian investors with successful track records spanning a generation or more. John Rogers founded value oriented Ariel Capital Management at the tender age of 24. The first African-American owned mutual fund company is now the nation's largest black owned investment management firm. Robert Kleinschmidt has run the large-cap Tocqueville Fund since 1992. Going against the crowd has earned him and his investors market beating performance over the years and high ratings from Morningstar."

Cliff Asness, Andrew Lo on Wealth Track, June 2009 (video)

Here's the intro by Consuelo Mack's program: "Two innovative hedge fund managers challenge conventional investment wisdom and explain why they have recently brought their hedge fund skills to the mutual fund world. MIT's Professor of Finance and portfolio manager of the ASG Global Alternatives Fund, Andrew Lo, and AQR Capital Management's Cliff Asness, portfolio manager of the recently launched AQR Diversified Arbitrage Fund discuss their investment outlook and strategies."

"Innovative" is an interesting word to use in investment management. As most Ben Graham and Warren Buffett adherents know, innovation is not necessarily a positive in the world of investing. Sticking to some tried and true principles of buying into undervalued businesses might be more advisable in the business of investing.

Bill Gross on Wealth Track (video), July 2009

Here is an interview with "bond king" Bill Gross of PIMCO. Gross's monthly commentary is always an enjoyable read. He clearly applies an interesting and knowledgeable perspective to investing. However, as Marc Faber points out, Gross's views on inflation may prove to have been too sanguine. If this ends up being the case, it won't be the first time that someone focused on one particular discipline -- in this case, bond investing -- ends up missing the signs of a once-in-a-hundred-year flood. Studying books like A History of Interest Rates is helpful, but history alone is not sufficient to predict the future. The fact that the U.S. has never seen hyperinflation doesn't mean the latter can't and won't happen. We shall see...

Robert Rodriguez on Consuelo Mack Wealth Track (video)

Bob Rodriguez of FPA Capital is one of those under-appreciated superinvestors, a guy who has consistently and substantially outperformed the market indices -- and has done so by applying an investment approach that is understandable and makes sense. Rodriguez should be studied by all those looking to improve their investment skills.

July 31, 2009

Buffett Up Big on Chinese Investment, Goldman Sachs

We generally don't pay much attention to short-term tallies of whose stocks are up or down, but Warren Buffett's success in picking investments over the past year is notable because the media has been beating up on him about "being too early" for quite some time. We recall several segments on financial television that criticized Buffett's investment in Goldman Sachs because the warrants he obtained quickly went underwater. Well, the naysayers have to move over because Buffett's long-term style has once again produced solid results in the short term, too.

Read the Bloomberg article on Buffett's recent successes.

July 30, 2009

Sam Zell on Real Estate (Video)

Interesting interview. Zell slipped in a bombshell statement that slid largely by Bartiromo: Zell expects commercial real estate to turn down in earnest in another 2-3 years if/when interest rates rise.

Thanks to SimoleonSense for the find.

July 27, 2009

Pershing Square Capital Management: Bill Ackman's Q2 2009 Letter to Investors


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Speech by Dan Loeb of Third Point (Video)

Dan Loeb, founder of activist hedge fund Third Point, speaks at the Jewish Enrichment Center:

Thanks to Yaser Anwar for the link.

July 24, 2009

Buffett The Cartoon Character

Buffett comes on CNBC to promote a cartoon but ends up giving invaluable insight into equities, inflation and a whole host of other topics.

July 20, 2009

Value Investing Seminar: Danilo Santiago Favors Lowe's and Home Depot

Danilo Santiago, founding partner of Rational Asset Management, presented at the Value Investing Seminar last week. Santiago outlined his long thesis on Lowe's (LOW) and Home Depot (HD). Excerpts from his speech follow:

Investment Philosophy

  • Quote from Homer's Odyssey: "...he sailed past the island of the Sirens, whose song draws men to their death: Odysseus* bid the crew to cover their ears, while he himself was tied to the mast, so that he might listen, yet not be seduced."
  • Like Odysseus, Rational seeks to avoid the siren’s call… In our case, the cycles of fear and greed and the short term noise of the equity market

Investment Ideas: Lowe's and Home Depot

  • Current opportunity should not be ignored: Rational's knowledge base has a high number of companies with significant potential for appreciation, which is reflected in the number of long positions currently in the portfolio.
    Rational's back testing analysis shows that undervaluation relative to the proprietary "fair value" is a strong indicator of future performance.
  • Market's overly simplistic approach to valuation: "When we superimpose the share price of a stock and the average NTM EPS (Next Twelve Months EPS) estimates from sell-side analysts it is clear that “the market” is using an over-simplistic approach to investing –it uses an almost constant multiple over a short term forecastAlthough this is clearly a wrong approach to investing, it offers a lot of good opportunities for the rational and methodical investorOur analysis indicate that both Lowe’s and Home Depot are currently more than 50% under-valued."
  • Lowe's margins should rise in the future: "The current recession –which has been focused on the housing sector –has obviously impacted LOW’s margins, but we have good reasons to believe that they will increase from the current low level."
  • Rational's equivalent square footage concept: "When analyzing a retailer’s growth dynamic it is necessary to adjust calculations of sales and costs (per square foot) given the average age of the storesAt Rational we do what we call an “equivalent square footage” calculation –it shows how many “mature” square feet would be necessary to replicate the current sales levelWhen a retailer stops an accelerated growth pattern, the increase in their “square footage age” will provide a strong tail-wind for margins."
  • Summary: "Lowe’s and Home Depot are probably experiencing the worst downturn on their sector they will ever face. Nevertheless, current market valuation provides a significant margin of safety for both companies even assuming (i) a small increase on real same-store-sales (we actually think that our base-case might be too pessimistic on this driver), (ii) gross-profit per equivalent square foot below long-term historicalsand (iii) room for increase in SG&A per total square foot. As both Lowe’s and Home Depot stop new store expansion, margins will increase due to a tailwind provided by the increase in average age of their stores since “equivalent square footage” (that driver gross-profit dollars) will grow faster than “total square footage” (that drives costs). According to our proprietary analysis both Lowe’s (LOW) and Home Depot (HD) are more than 50% under-valued."

Access the full presentation.

About Danilo Santiago

Mr. Danilo Santiago is a founding partner of Rational Asset Management, a long-short hedge fund, which he co-manages with Mr. Cláudio Skilnik (CBS ’02). The fund operations started in April 2008, focusing on publicly traded, liquid US equities. Rational has also firmed a partnership with Turim Investimentos, one of the biggest multi-family offices in Brazil. Rational core strength is its proprietary company analyses – differently from most funds, Rational’s knowledge base is quasi- static, which provides the fund with an extra edge when triggering a new long/short position.

Mr. Santiago has an MBA from Columbia Business School (CBS ‘01) and a bachelor degree in Electrical Engineer from the University of São Paulo (class of 1994). Before founding Rational, Mr. Santiago worked for three years on a multi-billion dollar, fundamental focused hedge fund in New York City. Prior to that Mr. Santiago spent six years at McKinsey & Co, the majority of which at the Corporate Finance Practice, also in New York City.

Disclosure: No positions.

Value Investing Seminar: Morgan Stanley's Gabriele D'Agosta on Clay Construction Producer Wienerberger

Gabriele D'Agosta, a Morgan Stanley vice president, contributed a presentation on  Wienerberger (Frankfurt Stock Exchange: WIB) to the proceedings of the Value Investing Seminar in Molfetta, Italy last week.

Wienerberger, founded in 1819 in Vienna, Austria, is a global leader in the production of clay construction products. It is the world's largest producer of hollow bricks, Europe's largest and America's top two producer of facing bricks, Europe's second-largest producer of roof tiles, and central Europe's second-largest producer of pavers.

Click here to view the full presentation.

About Gabriele D'Agosta

Vice President in Morgan Stanley since 2001. In 1998 and 2000 worked for Goldman Sachs in London in the Private Wealth Management as brokerage and asset management. From 2000 through 2001 has worked for Lazard in London in private investor area. He has a degree in Economics from the University Bocconi in 1996 and he is a CFA since 2003.

Disclosure: No position.

Value Investing Seminar: What Is Bond Arbitrage?

Roberto Russo, director of project independent advisory in Confin Sim, presented at the Value Investing Seminar in Molfetta, Italy last week. Mr. Russo addressed the topic of bond arbitrage.

Mr. Russo's presentation may be accessed by clicking here.

About Roberto Russo

39 YEARS OLD HAS A DEGREE IN BUSINESS AND ECONOMICS,  DIRECTOR OF PROJECT “INDEPENDENT ADVISORY” IN COFIN SIM. Portfolio Manager for Duemme Sgr. (2006-2008),  head Manager of Abaxbank  Risk Arbitrage Desk (20000-2006). Roberto has also worked as director in Caboto Sim (1999-2000), Banca Monte dei Paschi di Siena (1998-1999) and Banconapoli & Fumagalli-Soldan Sim (1994-1998). He’s an AIAF member since 1998. From 2004 he is on the Board Member of Cattolica Partecipazioni S.p.A.

July 15, 2009

Making Money in Cement -- Don Fitzgerald on Vicat -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Seminar, Italy

Don Fitzgerald, fund manager of Tocqueville Value Europe, presented at the Value Investing Seminar in Molfetta, Italy today. Fitzgerald highlighted French cement maker Vicat as a buying opportunity. Our notes from his speech follow:

Investment Idea: Vicat (Paris: VCT)

Company Overview

  • Leader in South East France (~50% of sales) and strong regional positions in mature markets (Western Switzerland, California, South East USA) and in emerging countries (Western Africa, Egypt & Turkey)
  • Vertically integrated: 2/3 cement, 1/3 aggregates / RMC
  • 60% family controlled.  Free float increased from 5% to 40% in 2007
  • Management strategy is to use group cash-flow to improve vertical integration, diversify from home base and increase exposure to faster growing markets
Industry Overview
  • Uses - housing, commercial construction, infrastructure, RMI
  • High weight to value
  • Limited substitutes
  • Barriers to entry: ownership of quarries / environmental constraints; capital intensity; geographic/transport costs; control over import terminals; and vertical integration

Valuation

  1. Earnings-based:
    • trades on 9x 2009E EPS and 5x 2009E EV/EBITDA --> Don thinks 2009 should represent trough in earnings cycle
    • FCF-yield on maintenance capex ~15%
    • trades at ~20% discount to peer group despite better pricing power, stronger balance sheet (net debt ~1.6x EBITDA), superior track record and higher medium term growth prospects
    • industry-average transaction multiple of 8-9x EBITDA over last 17 years --> Don thinks given family control and cyclical trough a transaction is unlikely but implied equity value ~€75 per share vs current market price of ~€40
  2.  Asset-based:
    • Don estimates current replacement cost of 1M tonne cement plant at €200M in developed markets and €100M in emerging markets
    • This implies €61 per share of equity value for Vicat (assuming €1.8B of EV for Vicat's cement assets in developed markets, €1.2B in emerging markets and €0.5B EV for aggregates and ready-mix concrete)

Key Risks

  • Prolonged deeper recession
  • Price deflation – Don thinks this is mitigated by: industry consolidation; focus of geared players on cash generation, not market share; capacity additions delayed / cancelled; and limited risk of falling prices for Vicat due to market mix
  • Antitrust enquiries
  • Co2 compliance costs
  • How Don Differs from the Consensus View

    • Consensus concern is industry-wide price deflation –> Vicat protected due to pricing power in key markets
    • Consensus focus on cyclical downturn, not trough in the earnings cycle
    • Don thinks next cycle’s earnings power for Vicat should be higher due to: increased earnings from capacity additions; efficiencies from industrial upgrades; and possible acquisitions at bottom of cycle

About Don Fitzgerald

Mr. Fitzgerald joined Tocqueville Finance in February 2007 as a Financial Analyst and has co-managed the Tocqueville Value Europe Fund since February 2008. He previously worked 7 years for Citigroup in Dublin, London, Frankfurt and Paris in different corporate finance roles. Subsequently, he worked as an investor in distressed debt for WestLB in Paris from 2003 to 2006. He is a CFA charterholder and graduated from Trinity College Dublin in 1996 with a degree in Business Studies and German.

Disclosure: No positions.

Robert Vinall Highlights German Value Opportunities -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Seminar, Italy

Robert Vinall, founder and managing director of RV Capital, presented at the Value Investing Seminar in Molfetta, Italy today. His presentation was (ambitiously) entitled, How to Come Out of the Financial Crisis as a Winner with Certainty. Our notes from his speech follow:

Rob's Investment Checklist

  1. Is the business within my circle of competence?
  2. Does the business have a sustainable competitive advantage? Can come from cost leadership, network effects, brand, switching costs, licenses/permits/patents, ecosystem effect, culture
  3. Is the company run by honest and talented management? Rob is big believer in being able to tell good managers from bad by using references, track record, ways of communication, a CEO's role models, own behaviour 
  4. Does the company have engaged and responsible owners? integral part of research process, skeptical of open share registers where management does not have anyone to answer and owner/manager interests not aligned 
  5. Is the valuation attractive? central valuation methodology is "owner earnings yield" defined by dividend yield plus growth; considers 15%+ as attractive

"Invert, Always Invert"

Invoking Charlie Munger, Rob cross-checks above by asking what kind of investment will make you come out as a loser:

  • buying business you do not understand
  • buying business that won't be around in 10 years
  • partnering with people who promise miracles
  • leveraging yourself up to the hilt
  • using short term capital to buy long duration assets such as equities
  • throwing common sense out of the window
  • trusting your emotions 

What to Buy in Germany Now

Rob highlights three investment opportunities:

  1. GrenkeLeasing (XETRA: GLJ):
    • leading provider of small ticket IT-leasing equipment (<€10k equipment value)
    • multiple moats: cost leadership, customer switching costs
    • owner-run: Mr. Grenke is founder, CEO and largest shareholder (40%)
    • attractive valuation: owner earnings yield of 15%+ (3% dividend yield plus 12%+ growth); downside protected by stock trading at close to liquidation value
    • winner from current crisis: strong double digit growth as competitors retrench
  2.  Takkt (XETRA: TTK):
    • leading B2B mail order company for small business equipment (160k products ranging from sack barrows to designer lamps; ticket size <€1k)
    • multiple moats: cost leadership from scale, customer switching costs
    • high management quality
    • Haniel family (owns 70%) are engaged and responsible owners
    • attractive valuation: owner earnings yield of 15%+
  3.  Beiersdorf (XETRA: BEI):
    • manufacturer of branded consumer cosmetics
    • multiple moats: cost leadership from scale, Nivea brand
    • high management quality
    • Herz family are engaged and responsible owners
    • attractive valuation: owner earnings yield of 15%+ driven by growth into new markets and categories
    • Rob thinks current undervaluation due to market's disappointment with 1Q09 results as Beiersdorf was perceived as a safe haven

About Robert Vinall

Mr. Vinall is the Founder and Managing Director of RV Capital. He is based in Zurich, Switzerland where he lives with his wife and two children. Rob is from the UK and was born in May 1973. He graduated with an honours degree from Cambridge University in 1996 and was awarded the CFA designation in 2000. He began his career in April 1997 at Goldman Sachs Asset Management where he participated in the graduate trainee program. In October 1998, he joined DG Bank which later became DZ Bank where he was a sell side analyst covering the telecoms sector. In October 2004, he moved to Switzerland to join CDL Principal Investors, a boutique consultancy where he sourced investment opportunities in public equity markets which required active ownership.

Disclosure: No positions.

Interesting Links

www.businessowner.de

Ciccio Azzollini on Surviving the Financial Meltdown -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Seminar, Italy

Ciccio Azzollini, CEO of Cattolica Partecipazioni SpA and host of the Value Investing Seminar in Molfetta, Italy, gave a presentation today, entitled Surviving: The Name Of The Game. Our notes from his speech follow:

Benjamin Graham's three timeless ideas for investing:

  • Evaluate stocks as part-ownership in the business
  • Make Mr. Market your friend by taking advantage of prices he quotes you when these prices deviate substantially from fair value
  • Invest with a "margin of safety" --> build a bridge able to withstand 15,000 pounds if you're going to drive a 10,000 pound truck across it

Investment-related observations:

  • Equity markets around the world show disappointing 10-year track records with major indices in US and Europe down 30-50%
  • Now a good time to look for investments and review value investing toolkit
  • Ciccio favors "investing with flexibility" meaning can invest in undervalued stocks, risk arbitrage, special situations, distressed securities --> all can have different risk/reward and time horizon profiles but value investing basis for investing is the same (look for situations with motivated sellers and missing buyers leading to large price dislocations)

Understand your edge when making an investment:

  • Information?
  • Analysis?
  • Psychology?
  • Time horizon?

Do a few things well when evaluating an investment:

  • Understand the business
  • Understand the people running the business
  • Get safety from the price paid
  • Concentrate on best ideas
  • Discipline, rationality and patience are key

Investment Idea: Banco Popolare (Milan: BP)

  • 4th largest Italian commercial bank with market share of approx. 10% in 6 regions of northern Italy 
  • Network of approx. 2,200 branches
  • Business model focused on retail banking
  • Sound balance sheet and liquidity: loan/deposit ratio of 0.91 as of 3/31/09; funding needs covered until 2011
  • Asset base is low-risk: focus on local domestic market (where no real estate bubble); merchant banking portfolio valued at market; strong diversification and strict loan provisioning
  • No investments in toxic assets: no exposure to subprime mortgage sector or structured products
  • Ciccio estimates intrinsic value per share of €8.5-11 (based on 10-12x normalized EPS of €0.85-0.95 assuming €1.4B of pre-tax, pre-provision earnings, €300-400M of losses, 45% tax rate and 640M shares outstanding) vs. current market price of ~€5 and tangible book value of €7 per share

About Ciccio Azzollini

Beniamino Francesco Azzollini (Ciccio) attended University of Bari and has a degree in Business and Economy. After graduating in 1997, he obtained a diploma as “Financial Analyst” at the European Association of Financial Analysts. He worked from 2001 through 2003 as Fund Manager in “Abax Bank” Milan. Since 2003 he is CEO of Cattolica Partecipazioni S.p.A,  an investment vehicle; he is also founder of the first “Value Investing Seminar” in Italy. Ciccio was born in 1974 and lives in Italy, city of Molfetta (Bari) with his wife Linda.

Disclosure: No positions.

Victor Fasciani Sees Compelling Buy in Contango Oil & Gas (MCF) -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Seminar, Italy

Victor Fasciani, Managing Partner of Praetorian Value Fund, made a compelling case for Contango Oil & Gas (MCF) during his presentation at the Value Investing Seminar in Molfetta, Italy today. Our notes from his speech follow:

Praetorian Value Fund -- Investment Philosophy

  • Wants to understand every detail of the business (financials, management, industry, competition) --> "leave nothing to chance"
  • Thinks current market volatility and irrationality presents opportunities across all market cap segments (although traditional small/mid-cap focus)
  • Diversification is not risk management

Praetorian Value Fund -- Selected Investments

Long (as of 4/30/09):

  • Alliance Grain Traders (AGT.UN-V.TSX): company in commodity business without commodity-like characteristics
  • American Express (AXP)
  • Contango Oil & Gas (MCF)
  • Cresud (CRESY)
  • Gigamedia (GIGM)
  • Transocean (RIG)
  • Vulcan Materials (VMC)

Recent Short:

  • Dollar Thrifty (DTG) - over-levered year-to-date outperformer that should come crashing down

Investment Idea: Contango Oil & Gas (MCF)

  • Company focuses on highest ROI part of the value chain: exploration
  • Founded by CEO Ken Peak in 1999 with $30M of capital (at $43/share current market cap approx. $670M with stable share count since 2001)
  • Buffet-like company philosophy: give smart people capital, give them large incentives for doing well, and then let them do their thing
  • Leanest operation in the Gulf of Mexico: 7 employees in small Houston office (everything except planning and idea generation is outsourced)
  • Underfollowed by sell-side: no analyst coverage
  • Robust balance sheet: no long-term debt
  • Motivated and incentivized management: CEO owns 20% of company

Compelling valuation:

  • $1.3B or $78/share intrinsic value of proved reserves only (based on net present value of after-tax income assuming $7 per Mmbtu natural gas price and $70 per barrel of oil)
  • Reserves in place for last ~50 million years and not going away
  • Other assets and free options add up to an additional $30-40/share (MCF bought more than 70 lease blocks in the Gulf at $35M cost basis; Victor thinks this is worth $100M today because of seismic data and the company's successful drill track record of 67%)

Catalysts:

  • Continue drilling in the Gulf potentially converting probable into proved reserves
  • Company was for sale in summer 2008 - received offers in the $70-80 range but CEO would not sell as these prices viewed as fire-sale
  • Assets remain in play and CEO is 65 years of age
  • Company has $100M stock buyback in place

Reasons for mispricing:  

  • Natural gas stocks trade partly based on spot or front-month natural gas futures price movements --> as 12 month forward curve significantly higher than spot prices (around $5.50 vs. $3.50 per Mmbtu) market seems to ignore the implied increase in prices  
  • Market won't pay for optionality value of assets in oil & gas, especially in current environment 
  • Market doesn't give enough credit to good management teams in this industry

Why Natural Gas Stocks Present Opportunities

  • Assets can be easily converted into cash and non-perishable inventory
  • Currently reserves are cheaper on Wall Street (--> M&A) than in the ground
  • Ratio of oil to natural gas prices at 16:1 currently vs. 10:1 historically --> Victor convinced of reversion to mean and thinks this will happen by natural gas prices rising from their recent lows in the $3.50 range (thinks long term floor  for natural gas prices is around $6 for companies to achieve 10% ROE --> if prices fall below that for long, higher cost onshore wells are shut reducing supply and eventually leading to higher prices again, as happened in fall of 2006)

About Victor Fasciani

Mr. Fasciani is the Managing Partner of Praetorian Value Fund. Praetorian Value Fund utilizes a bottom-up, research driven value approach focusing much attention on small- and mid-cap value opportunties.  Mr. Fasciani was a Senior Analyst and Co-Portfolio Manager with Sellers Capital from 2007 through 2009.

Disclosure: Long MCF, no other positions.

Josh Tarasoff Likes Ambassadors Group (EPAX) -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Seminar, Italy

Josh Tarasoff, General Partner of Greenlea Lane Capital Partners, gave a presentation at the Value Investing Seminar yesterday. Tarasoff described his partnership's investment framework and made the case for Ambassadors Group (EPAX), his fund's largest investment. Our notes from his speech follow:

Investment Framework

  • Runs concentrated portfolio (top 5 positions represent 66% of total fund capital)
  • Before investing in a business, asks himself if he would be comfortable if the position was his only asset and he could never sell it (ie the only money he would made is the cash taken out of the business) 
  • Employs investment checklist with the following criteria: (1) minimal risk of product obsolescence; (2) minimal financial leverage; (3) high return on incremental capital; (4) strong, sustainable competitive position; (5) pricing power; (6) potential for long-term unit growth; (7) demonstrated propensity to return capital to shareholders; and (8) management economically aligned with shareholders.

Investment Idea: Ambassadors Group (EPAX)

  • Represents ~20% of Greenlea Lane's equity capital --> single biggest position
  • EPAX is an educational student travel company (activities incude home stays, community service, meetings with political figures, general tourism)
  • ~90% of revenue represented by international programs travel to >50 countries
  • 2008 geographic breakdown: 60% Europe, 17% Asia, 16% South Pacific, 6% Other
  • Risks include worsening economy, operational missteps, terrorism, war and health concerns; also possibility that recent enrollment declines symptomatic of long-term headwinds
  • Potential catalyst is Q3 earnings release; Josh thinks there is good chance that enrollments will show Y/Y growth based on pent-up demand (due to deferral of trips last year when marketing season coincided with sudden and sharp deterioration in economic environment and consumer confidence) and operational improvements undertaken during past year

First key question: Is it a good business?

  • Unique, non-replicable brand franchise based on a relationship with a non-profit organization called People to People International (PTPI); one of the core activities of PTPI is The Ambassadors Program which has been outsourced to EPAX since 1983 (this exclusive relationship runs through 2020 on current terms); EPAX is also academically accredited (90% of participants receive high school credit, 10% of participants receive college credit) 
  • Pricing power ($6,300 average price of international programs in 2008 - no competing programs command comparable prices) 
  • High ROIC (little tangible capital needed; only $30M of fixed assets on BS) and minimal need to put up capital as the business grows
  • Large unit growth potential (29M 11-19 year-olds in the US of which EPAX estimates >20M have financial means to travel; in contrast 2009E enrollments are 35k; marketing domestic programs to students abroad is an untapped market)

Second key question: Why is it cheap?

  • Operational trends are negative (critical enrollment season in July-October negatively affected by use of faulty maling list in 2007 and sudden deterioration in consumer confidence in 2008  (led to -20% Y/Y enrollment decline in 2008 and estimated 17% decline in 2009 after 1997-2007 revenue CAGR of 20%)
  • Premium, discretionary product which is currently out of favor

Third key question: What is it worth?

  • Student acquisition cost, defined as marketing expenditures/ number of enrollments, a key metric to gauge potential value
  • Thinks average SAC of $1,045 in 2008-09E should return to its 2003-07 average of ~$620 because causes of recent increase are temporary (faulty purchased list name in 2007, recession will end)
  • SAC of ~$620 drives FCF/share of $2.38 (5x EV/FCF), whereas SAC of $850 (average of historical and recent) would imply FCF/share of $1.34 (10x EV/FCF); estimated 2009 SAC of $1,167 implies FCF/share of $0.80 (16x EV/FCF)
  • Expects 15-20% FCF growth over next 10 years (would be similar to performance over last 10 years) and on this basis believes a private buyer with long time horizon would earn very attractive returns buying EPAX at 20x FCF today
  • Depending on above SAC assumptions, 20x FCF/share of $0.80, $1.34 and $2.38, implies per share fair value of $17, $28 and $49, respectively, vs. current share price of $14


About Josh Tarasoff

Mr. Tarasoff is the General Partner of Greenlea Lane Capital Partners, LP, a private investment partnership he founded in 2006. Josh graduated from Duke University in 2001, with a degree in philosophy. He has worked at Goldman, Sachs & Co. and has an MBA from Columbia Business School.

Disclosure: No positions.

July 14, 2009

Bestinver Fund Manager Highlights European Value Investment Opportunities -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Seminar

Alvaro Guzman dé Lazaro Mateos, fund manager at Bestinver, gave a presentation at the Value Investing Seminar in Italy today. Our notes from his speech follow:

Bestinver Investment Philosophy

  • Seeks profitability in absolute terms and not in relation to benchmark indices.
  • Considers risk in absolute terms, defining it as the possibility of losing the money invested and not in terms of volatility or deviation with respect to a particular benchmark index.
  • Are asset managers, not asset gatherers.
  • Invest in companies that are trading at a reasonable discount to their true economic value.
  • Patience. Are in it for the long term and like what they do so are prepared to wait (Most of alpha due to patience).
  • Daily goal is to increase the portfolio’s potential, swapping companies with less upside for others with more, factoring in the time needed to analyse the company (in contrast to the UStax regime, in Europe mutual funds are taxed on capital gains at just 1%, making divestments less inefficient).
  • Have a very high effective turnover but quite low turnover by name. For example, since the starting of the current drop have seen a 120% effective turnover with only one new company in the global portfolio.
  • Management vision aligned with Austrian School of Economics, with its deep understanding of human actions and its implications in business cycles, people behaviour, market structures, etc.

Investment Idea #1: Fuchs Petrolub - A High Grower in a Non-Growing Market?

  • At €39/share, market cap is €923M
  • Valuation: Normalised FCF of €135M --> trading at 6.8x FCF. Worth €90/share
  • Description of business: #1 independent lubricant manufacturer worldwide. Fuch’s lubricants are used in a variety of end markets (metallworking fluids, mining specialties, corrosion preventives, car manufacturers, etc..). Sells over 10K products to around 100K clients. 70% of revenues generated from a direct sales force in over 100 countries. Products mainly manufactured where sold (50 plants worldwide).
  • Market Structure: Market volume in 1990: 40mn Tonnes; 2007: 39mn T. The “big boys” (14 integrated oil majors) hold 60% of the market in volumes, the rest spread out among 700 players (1300 players 5 years ago).
  • Historical Performance: CAGR in sales, EBITDA, EBIT 01-08 of 6%, 12% and 16% respectively. Never a year of losses in its 75-year history. Key to sales growth is Fuch’s expertise in application engineering (sales people are Engineers with MBA) and a focus on specialties. Systematic emphasis on organic growth with smaller add-on acquisitions. Key to profitability is bargaining power with clients/specialties focus
  • Management: Third generation of the Fuchs family. Honest, candid, able people. Extremely sound incentive system in place. Focused on the business vs “selling the story”.

Why is Fuchs Undervalued?

  • Under-researched.
  • Misunderstood. It has ability to pass on base-oils price rises and keep a lot when they decline (EBIT margin 6% in 2001, 14% in 2007). The product is essential, and attempts to save on it politically risky for clients. Over-emphasized “Auto” exposure.
  • The 2008-09 “Tsunami” has had an effect on Fuchs: 1Q09 sales down 20%, EBITDA down 40% and very little visibility.
  • Bestinver xpects volumes will recover and Fuchs will keep expanding market share. Earnings will recover  sooner rather than later.
  • Business is NOT capital intensive. ROCEs have averaged 20% over the last 9 years. Net debt<0,5x EBITDA. R&D is expensed and amounts to 2% sales.
  • No strategic issues, it is a competitive market. Fuchs’ clients somewhat captive. Fuchs has among the biggest R&D budgets in absolute terms that gets “diluted” over the largest specialties volume. Its management has a culture of austerity one can smell at all parts of the organization.
  • Bestinver values Fuchs at 15x its stable FCF earning power of 135mn. This implies 8.7x EV/EBITDA, in line with PMV deals involving structurally LESS profitable competitors. The family owns 25% of the shares and has cancelled 10% of its stock through buybacks over the last 3 years.

Investment Idea #2: Esprinet - True Competitive Advantage + Turned-Around Operation at 5x FCF?

  • At €6.6/share, market cap is €337M
  • Valuation: Normalised FCF €50M. Worth €16/share.
  • Description of business: Italian leader in IT distribution with 3x the market share of the next competitor. The best margins of the European peer group (Also, Actebis, Ingram, Tech Data). A classic example of “regional economies of scale”.
  • Why the market share differential? Optimal logistics and an internet focus has allowed Esprinet to carry a big number of references and a big service ratio at competitive prices. Profited big time from 02-03 crisis.
  • Why the margin differential? Better purchasing terms with vendors, better working capital management, more efficient SG&A.
  • Why a true sustainable competitive advantage? Very difficult-to-replicate logistic set-up, economies of scale, switching costs for clients.
  • Spanish expansion: Expanded into Spain by buying 2 companies at peak of the cycle. Had several operating problems: '06 EBIT was €23M and '08 EBIT a NEGATIVE €8M. Today the operation has recovered service levels, enjoys the highest market share, and is streamlined after massive restructuring. Bestinver only relies on HALF the historic EBIT levels as remain pessimistic on Spain.

Why is Esprinet undervalued?

  • Market correctly penalized Esprinet as the first profit warnings from Spain started to be released. The base for the share price fall was a 17x near-term FCF multiple= the stock got crucified and fell from €17 to €2 in less than 2 years. Management lost credibility, but in Bestinver's view they’re only liable from not “timing” Spain.
  • Italian operation kept outperforming and now faces a GREAT consolidation opportunity AGAIN as it did in the previous crisis.
  • As badly-timed as the Spanish purchase was, they are now outperfoming the market significantly and reported “black EBIT” again in Spain in 1Q09. Plus they’ve learned many lessons about what capital allocation means!
  • Market has partly recognized the improvements, but still, the Italian operation is worth €12-13 per share or 2x current price. Spain is a free option. Balance sheet is debt-free.
  • Business has a ROCE close to 30%. Management is excellent as an operator, and capital allocation wise.
  • Stable shareholder base and management also a shareholder with a SIGNIFICANT personal stake.
  • Business + people + a very good price = a safe good, undervalued business.

About Bestinver

  • Incorporated in 1987
  • Shareholder structure: 100%-owned by Acciona
  • Investment decision-making independent of Acciona
  • Focused on returns nor volumes under management
  • Spain´s leading independent fund manager
  • €3,1Bn and 30,000 customers
  • Investment philosophy based on “Value Investing”
  • 90% of managed assets are in equities
  • Largest Spanish equities fund (Bestinver Bolsa)

About Alvaro Guzman dé Lazaro Mateos

Born in 1975, Mr. Guzman dé Lazaro Mateos began his career in 1994 as an auditor for Arthur Andersen in Madrid. He continued his career at Bankers Trust in Paris, where he eventually headed the Middle Office at the early age of 21. In 1997 he started as a stock market analyst at a Frankfurt fund management company (Value Management) founded by a former employee of the legendary Peter Lynch. Subsequently, he returned to Spain, where he worked as a financial analyst at Spanish broker Beta Capital and later Banesto Bolsa. In 2003, he joined Bestinver to work with Francisco García Paramés, with whom he had frequently exchanged investment ideas since 1998, given their common liking for the "value school of investing". Alvaro speaks Spanish, French, English and German.

Disclosure: No positions.

Guy Spier on Navigating Between Fear and Greed Using Investment Checklists -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Seminar, Italy

Noted value investor Guy Spier, CEO of Aquamarine Capital, gave a presentation at the Value Investing Seminar in Italy today, entitled Navigating Between Fear & Gread Using Checklists. Our first-hand notes from his speech follow:

Importance of Neurology in Investing

  • Human brain has different parts, each leading to different behavioral responses when engaged, eg the neocortex elicits a rational response whereas the "reptilian" part of the brain responds to greed and fear
  • Great investors (Soros, Buffett, Klarman etc) are "wired" to engage the necortex while  others are susceptible to enaging the reptilian brain when faced with the same situation
  • Value investing is the art of using the neocortex
  • Studies have shown that when thinking about making money, for most people the same part of the brain responds as when thinking about gambling, drugs, sex
  • A lot of very smart investors lose money because they lose discipline and become guided by their reptilian brain (eg Isaac Newton's losses in the South See bubble in early 18th century)

Examples of Companies "Targeting" the Reptilian Brain

Below examples are all about companies/management who have figured out different ways to tap into our reptilian brain ranging from nearly criminal to very subtle.

  • Interactive Services Worldwide (delisted): serial promotions and spreading of hype through frequent press releases about partnership deals (eg with Sportingbet) that are not value-creating upon closer evaluation  
  • EVCI Career Colleges (delisted): Management manipulated enrollments and published information that portrayed the performance of the business better than it actually was 
  • DeVry (DV): Reputable management but was overconfident about operating performance of the business and communicated to investors rosy forecasts for enrollments based on hope, not actual underlying facts
  • American Express (AXP): Reputable company and management, but again company communication about estimated write-offs in lending business too optimistic
What to Do? - Use of Checklists in Investing
  • Investors' intellectual understanding of the fallacies of the reptilian brain is not sufficient --> a behavioral change is required!
  • Examples of behavioral change from the non-investing world: 1) Losing wallet in NYC taxi: Train yourself to stop and look before exiting taxi; 2) Infections in hospitals: Include regular washing hands after each patient contact as a routine; 3) Airline pilots: Creation of to-do checklist in emergency situations
  • Use checklists in investing to help brake reptilian brain responses to specific situations: For example, ask yourself what type of data am I looking at: data that can be manipulated by humans (eg loan write-offs) or facts (eg meat consumption in rich versus poor countries)
  • Checklists will help in situations susceptible to a response driven by greed and fear (usually stirred up by media)     
Investment Idea: London Mining plc
  • $146M market cap, $316M cash --> company trades significantly below cash (important: cash position cannot easily be manipulated
  • Strong management team with proven track record
  • Shareholder value creation to come from developing mines for the global energy and steel industries

About Guy Spier

Since 1995 Guy Spier has been running Aquamarine Capital Management, LLC. Investors include friends and family, high net worth individuals, and private banks investing on behalf of their clients. The fund has market beating returns - and has received mentions by Lipper and Nelson's world's best money managers. The investees can be obscure or they can also be very well known. The fund has also done well owning the shares of less understood, but very high quality, cash generative businesses. It currently owns several credit rating companies as well as several post secondary education companies. The ratings business (whether of debt securities, or of individuals, through education) is one of the best businesses that Guy has ever seen, and is consistently underestimated by investors. Guy is also an Advisory Board Member of the Dakshana Foundation, which is a philanthropic foundation that focuses on providing world-class educational opportunities to gifted but economically and socially disadvantaged children.

Interesting Links

  1. Examiner.com interview
  2. Recent comments on Warren Buffet's performance
  3. Guy's blog

July 06, 2009

Investment Philosophy of First Eagle Funds

Read essay by Matthew McLennan, portfolio manager of First Eagle Funds.

July 05, 2009

George Soros Interview with Wall Street Journal (Video)

July 01, 2009

Joel Greenblatt Q&A

Via GuruFocus.com.

June 28, 2009

Warren Buffett's Top Stock Ideas

Signal Value Ranking: Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway

Every three months upon release of 13F-HR filings, Portfolio Manager's Review updates and reviews the best ideas of more than 20 top investment managers:
• William Ackman, Pershing Square
• Zeke Ashton, Centaur
• Bruce Berkowitz, Fairholme
• Warren Buffett, Berkshire Hathaway
• Ian Cumming & Joe Steinberg, Leucadia
• David Einhorn, Greenlight
• Glenn Greenberg, Chieftain
• Brian Gaines, Springhouse
• Tom Gayner, Markel Gayner
• Mason Hawkins, Southeastern
• Chris Hohn, Children’s Investment Fund
• Carl Icahn, Icahn
• Seth Klarman, Baupost
• Eddie Lampert, RBS (ESL)
• Dan Loeb, Third Point
• Steve Mandel, Lone Pine
• Mohnish Pabrai, Pabrai Funds
• Rich Pzena, Pzena Investment
• Kenneth Shubin Stein, Spencer
• Prem Watsa, Fairfax
• Marty Whitman, Third Avenue

Learn more about Portfolio Manager's Review.

June 25, 2009

Buffett Interview: No Green Shoots Yet

By Ravi Nagarajan

In a CNBC interview today, Berkshire Hathaway Chairman and CEO Warren Buffett stated that the economy is not “moving yet” and that “green shoots” were not yet visible.  Mr. Buffett joked that he was hoping the cataract operation on his left eye last month would help him see “green shoots” but he has not seen many hopeful indicators of economic growth.

Mr. Buffett’s comments on the economy are well worth considering carefully and not only because of his investment track record.  Through Berkshire’s ownership of a diverse portfolio of operating companies, Mr. Buffett receives a broad array of reports that shed light on numerous important industries.  This is particularly true for areas such as homebuilding given Berkshire’s exposure to building materials.  In addition, reports from HomeServices of America, the second largest full service real estate brokerage in the United States, certainly provide a great deal of insight into the troubled real estate sector.

Other notable comments included statements of general support for the actions of the Treasury and Federal Reserve.  In particular, Mr. Buffett appeared to endorse the reappointment of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke.  Mr. Bernanke’s term expires early next year.

Also, in a comment that I completely agree with, Mr. Buffett was critical of Apple’s decision to not disclose the extent of Steve Jobs’ health problems and recent surgery:

“If I have any serious illness, or something coming up of an important nature, an operation or anything like that, I think the thing to do is just tell the American, the Berkshire shareholders about it. I work for ‘em. Some people might think I’m important to the company. Certainly Steve Jobs is important to Apple. So it’s a material fact. Whether he is facing serious surgery or not is a material fact. Whether I’m facing serious surgery is a material fact. Whether (General Electric CEO) Jeff Immelt is, I mean, so I think that’s important.”

Here is the CNBC Video of the interview:














Ravi Nagarajan is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk. 

June 24, 2009

Buffett on Unemployment, Obama

Buffett on Economy, Inflation

June 11, 2009

Compilation of Warren Buffett's Comments on Inflation

Joe Koster has put together a compilation of Warren Buffett's statements on inflation. This is a timely issue, and we thank Joe for making this available. Read Joe's post at Value Investing World.

June 10, 2009

Interview with Berkowitz, Weitz, Marsico

Bill Ackman's Letter to Investors, June 8

June 06, 2009

Jim Simons Finds It Tough to Replicate Success of Medallion

Via The Economist.

Jack Bogle Interviewed by Morningstar

Via Rational Walk.

June 03, 2009

Bruce Berkowitz on Health Care Investments

By Ravi Nagarajan

When Bruce Berkowitz of The Fairholme Fund has something to say, investors are well served to listen carefully.  I was particularly interested in his comments regarding health care given the reform proposals that are currently under discussion.  Berkowitz makes a strong case regarding the prospects for continued prosperity among many existing players in the industry.

Berkowitz is also bullish on defense related investments.  I found his views particularly interesting as a contrast to a recent article in Barrons regarding the sector.

The video is provided by Morningstar.

Ravi Nagarajan is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

June 02, 2009

FREE: Exclusive Interview with Zeke Ashton of Centaur Capital Partners, May 2009

Zeke Ashton of Centaur Capital Partners spoke eloquently on the topic of value investing and risk management at the Value Investing Congress in Pasadena earlier this month. We found Zeke’s presentation enlightening and asked him to elaborate on some of his key points. A week or so ago, we conducted an exclusive interview with Zeke, and it’s our pleasure to bring it to you here.

Before we proceed to the interview, we should point out that Zeke’s approach to risk management has worked. In 2008, the Centaur Value Fund was down 6.9%, trouncing the 37.1% and 40.0% declines of the S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite indexes. From inception in August 2002 through the end of 1Q09, the Centaur Value Fund gained 134.6%, net of fees and expenses, versus returns of 15.1% for the Nasdaq Composite and -0.3% for the S&P 500 Index.

Zeke Ashton of Centaur Capital Partners -- Exclusive Interview with The Manual of Ideas, May 2009

The above interview appeared in the May issue of Portfolio Manager's Review.

May 30, 2009

David Swensen on WealthTrack on May 22

Yale CIO David Swensen recently appeared on Consuelo Mack's WealthTrack. His views are insightful, as always. Among other things, he mentions TIPS as an interesting hedge against both inflation and deflation. Watch the full interview. Download the interview in MP3 format.

May 28, 2009

Notes From Ira Sohn Conference on May 27

May 25, 2009

Great View into Bill Ackman's Pershing Square Capital Management

Pershing Square 2008 Annual Report

May 24, 2009

Mohnish Pabrai Lectures at Columbia Business School, April 21, 2009

Watch Mohnish Pabrai's lecture.

Thanks to Noise Free Investing for the link.

May 23, 2009

Yale’s Swensen Recommends TIPS to Hedge "Substantial Inflation"

Via Bloomberg.

May 20, 2009

Selecting a Buffett Biography: Lowenstein vs. Schroeder

By Ravi Nagarajan

While there have been countless books written regarding Warren Buffett’s track record in business and investing, along with many books of variable quality seeking to find formulas to replicate his success, there are only two full fledged biographies that have been written:  The Making of an American Capitalist by Roger Lowenstein and The Snowball by Alice Schroeder.

Lowenstein’s book was published in 1995 and I read it shortly after it came out.  Along with reading The Intelligent Investor around the same time, Lowenstein’s work was an inspiration for me to pursue a more careful study of value investing.  Schroeder’s book was published in 2008 after several years of work that included unprecedented access to Buffett’s private papers and circle of business and personal contacts.  I have read The Snowball as well and found it very insightful.  In my opinion, students of Buffett should first read Lowenstein and then proceed to Schroeder.  However, which book should be selected for those who only intend to read one biography on Warren Buffett?

Buffett:  The Making of an American Capitalist

The Making of An American CapitalistRoger Lowenstein began his study of Warren Buffett in 1991 during the Salomon Brothers rescue and had followed Buffett for years as a Wall Street Journal reporter and shareholder of Berkshire Hathaway.  His book is a comprehensive account of Buffett’s life with an emphasis on aspects of the story that pertain to his development as a businessman and investor.  While there are certainly abundant insights into Buffett’s formative years and personal life, it appears that the author was primarily focused on delivering the insights that a reader of a business book would wish to see covered in detail.

Obviously, due to the publication date of the book, the events of the past 14 years are not included.  However, there is in depth treatment of the critical events of Buffett’s life up to the mid 1990s including his association with Benjamin Graham, his initial investment in Berkshire Hathaway, Buffett’s association with Charlie Munger, Berkshire’s entry into insurance, and much more.  Those who wish to learn more about Buffett’s sense of business ethics will appreciate Lowenstein’s extensive coverage of the Salomon scandal and Buffett’s rescue of the firm.  Overall, Lowenstein’s book is a very well written and concise account of Buffett’s life with an emphasis on his business dealings.

The Snowball:  Warren Buffett and the Business of Life

SnowballAlice Schroeder worked as a Wall Street analyst and managing director at Morgan Stanley.  She covered Berkshire Hathaway and impressed Warren Buffett with her insights regarding the company.  Schroeder’s January 1999 report on Berkshire Hathaway pioneered the float based valuation model that many analysts use to estimate Berkshire Hathaway’s intrinsic value.  In contrast with Lowenstein’s access to Warren Buffett (he elected to neither collaborate nor obstruct Lowenstein’s work), Schroeder had extensive access to Warren Buffett himself, his files, and network of business and personal contacts.

The result is a much more extensive portrait of Buffett as an individual, particularly in his formative years.  While Lowenstein only had two relatively brief chapters on the first two decades of Buffett’s life, Schroeder devotes much more space to Buffett’s early years.  The outcome of Schroeder’s greater access to Buffett’s family and friends is a very complete picture of Buffett’s early years.  This alone makes purchasing the book worthwhile.

Schroeder goes on to cover the Buffett Partnership years in great detail, covering much of the same ground that Lowenstein included in his book.  In my opinion, Lowenstein is more concise than Schroeder in terms of describing the Buffett Partnership as well as subsequent business events related to Berkshire Hathaway.  Schroeder clearly interviewed more people and the result is that the book contains more quotations in many areas.  Both approaches have merit.  Suffice it to say that those who are looking for a more streamlined account of these years would favor Lowenstein, while those seeking a more personal account of these years would likely appreciate Schroeder’s detail.

While Lowenstein does include many details of Buffett’s personal life, Schroeder places a much more significant emphasis on topics such as Buffett’s unconventional arrangement in his marriage.  While these topics have some interest from a human interest perspective, I did not really find the details insightful in terms of understanding Buffett’s genius as a businessman and investor.  At times, I felt that the details provided were too extensive.  I suppose that personal preference for such details may cause the reaction of other readers to differ from mine.

Of course, Schroeder’s book benefits from being written in 2008 rather than 1995 and the events of the last 13 years receive significant coverage.  I particularly enjoyed the coverage of Buffett’s 1999 speech at Sun Valley warning about high stock valuations as well as the general coverage of Buffett’s business activities during the current decade.

Which to Choose?

In my opinion, readers would be well served to read both books.  However, if a choice must be made, I would favor Snowball because of the more extensive coverage of Buffett’s youth as well as the coverage of the past decade.  In conjunction with one or both of these biographies, readers should review Buffett’s letters to shareholders either as they were written or by reading Lawrence Cunningham’s The Essays of Warren Buffett which I reviewed last month.

Ravi Nagarajan is a private investor and writer focused on applying value investing techniques to find securities trading well below intrinsic business value. He is a Manual of Ideas contributor and editor of The Rational Walk.

Staley Cates of Southeastern Asset Management on Chesapeake CEO Compensation

Staley Cates, President of Southeastern Asset Management, provided his view on the compensation package of Aubrey McClendon, CEO of Chesapeake Energy (CHK), during an annual presentation of Southeastern on May 7. In light of our recent critique of the scandalous dealings between Chesapeake and McClendon, we believe it is appropriate to bring you the most eloquent argument to the contrary. Says Staley Cates:

"Most recently, like in the last week or so, Chesapeake and Aubrey McClendon are hitting all these compensation lists for highly paid CEOs. There are two big misconceptions in the current discussion around McClendon being number one on that list. First, the payment of 75 million bucks to him is a lump sum allowance towards drilling that applies to the next five years. In other words, it should be viewed as 15 million per year, not 75 million in one year. While in societal terms, of course that’s absurd compared to what teachers make, but it’s less than all of his peers at similar companies like XTO and Devon. But the second point and the most important is the concept of pay for performance. Many of the people in the highly paid list did poor jobs in 2008 and did nothing to de-risk their companies where things, when things were good. By contrast, McClendon made shareholders about 30 billion dollars on three of his big four shale plays. He had paid 4.6 billion for three shale play land positions and last year he sold less than a third of those for 8.6 billion, which implicitly valued what they kept at 25.9 billion. In addition to highlighting 30 billion dollars of value created, these sales brough in a lot of cash to de-risk the balance sheet. Because gas prices plunged in ‘08, his stock did  poorly, then it did even worse when his big margin call took him out. At no point did he endanger the company with his bad personal decision, and he certainly couldn’t control gas prices. Over the long term, his company has built the most per share value of almost any company in the world. So for this, it’s probably okay to pay him industry average, but his Board has framed this poorly, then they made smaller bad decisions on peripheral compensation that muddied the water. The bottom line is this is a fantastic company, he has done a terrific job, and if you were on that comp committee, you would have leaned towards rewarding him handsomely for his 2008 performance."

The argument Cates makes obviously does not change the very significant compensation figures involved, nor does it eliminate the company's unjustifiable purchases of the CEO's art collection, hiring of his catering company, and sponsorship of a sports team in which McClendon has an equity stake.

Nonetheless, Staley Cates makes some good points. We respect Cates's partner Mason Hawkins and believe Hawkins and Cates are the types of investors who pay attention to the quality and compensation of management. If they views McClendon's compensation as appropriate, we are certainly inclined to soften our stance on it.

Dislcosure: No positions.

Notes & Clips from Annual Presentation of Mason Hawkins' Southeastern Asset Management

On May 7, Mason Hawkins, Staley Cates and other members of the Southeastern Asset Management investment team met with investors in the Longleaf Funds and other accounts managed by Southeastern. The annual presentation has been posted online, and we are pleased to bring you the following links:

Annual Presentation Transcript


Subject and Speaker

Overview of the Funds
Lee Harper
(9 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio - or -  Slide Presentation
Outlook for the Funds
Mason Hawkins
(21 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio - or -  Slide Presentation
Overview of Investments and Research
Staley Cates
(16 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio
Comments on Sun Microsystems
Mason Hawkins,
Jason Dunn
(4 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio
Comments on shareholder activism
Mason Hawkins
(3 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio
Have your criteria used in evaluating companies changed?
Mason Hawkins,
Staley Cates
(5 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio
Comments on the restructuring at General Motors
Mason Hawkins,
Staley Cates
(2 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio
Comments on the impact of government policies on your investment philosophy
Mason Hawkins,
Staley Cates
(3 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio
What are the attributes of a good investment?
Mason Hawkins,
Staley Cates
(2 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio
Comments on today's market verses markets of the past.
Mason Hawkins
(3 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio
Comments on investments in technology
Mason Hawkins,
Staley Cates
(6 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio
Comments on Yum Brands
Mason Hawkins,
Staley Cates
(3 Minutes)

Windows Media Audio

May 19, 2009

Hidden Gem: Seth Klarman Interview at Endowment Management Seminar of the TIFF Education Foundation, July 2008

Read it here.

May 18, 2009

Preview: Exclusive Interview with Zeke Ashton in Portfolio Manager's Review

Zeke Ashton of Centaur Capital Partners spoke eloquently on the topic of value investing and risk management at the Value Investing Congress in Pasadena earlier this month. We found Zeke’s presentation enlightening and asked him to elaborate on some of his key points.

Last week, we conducted an exclusive interview with Zeke, and it’s our pleasure to bring you a preview here. The full interview will be published in the upcoming issue of Portfolio Manager's Review, the acclaimed monthly investment idea publication of The Manual of Ideas [sample] [subscribe].

Before we proceed to the interview, we should point out that Zeke’s approach to risk management has worked. In 2008, the Centaur Value Fund was down 6.9%, trouncing the 37.1% and 40.0% declines of the S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite indexes. From inception in August 2002 through the end of 1Q09, the Centaur Value Fund gained 134.6%, net of fees and expenses, versus returns of 15.1% for the Nasdaq Composite and -0.3% for the S&P 500 Index.

MOI: You spoke recently on the topic of value investing and risk management. The “backdrop” was the somewhat surprising fact that a number of prominent value investors suffered debilitating losses in the market collapse of 2008 and early 2009. Adherence to “margin of safety” principles apparently didn’t help. Why?

Zeke Ashton: I think that is a very good question, and I don’t think there is any one easy answer. Part of it was simply because very few investors were prepared for such an extreme negative scenario as the one that ultimately played out. I know we didn’t foresee things deteriorating as much as they did. What transpired in late 2008 and early 2009 was so far outside of the range of experience for most people that it didn’t seem like a plausible scenario twelve months before. With perfect 20/20 hindsight, of course, it is easy to see the warning signs that were present, but most investors simply continued to do the things which had rewarded them in the past, not knowing that this time might be different.

We and many other value investors have historically been rewarded for buying in times of fear and uncertainty, as well as for purchasing stocks that were cheap relative to asset values or normalized earnings power. However, in 2008 it wasn’t enough to buy stocks that looked cheap based on low multiples to book value or normalized earnings. Many companies, particularly in the financial sector, won’t get the chance to recover to normalized earnings because they got wiped out or were forced to dilute their shareholders to the extent that the losses are effectively permanent. In the end, it appears to me that when faced with an extreme environment like 2008 and early 2009, there are really only two things that can save you: the luck or skill to see it coming and get out of the way, or a portfolio structure and risk management approach that is specifically designed to promote survival in a catastrophic scenario that you didn’t see coming. I feel very fortunate that we had a portfolio that was able to take some hits and survive to play another day.

MOI: How do you generate investment ideas?

Zeke Ashton: We get ideas from all sorts of places. We used to get a sizable number of leads from statistical screening, and we still use screens, but we have found them in recent years to be more productive in sourcing short ideas rather than long ideas. Nevertheless, we still scan through lists of stocks that appear to be cheap from a statistical basis and occasionally we find a good one.

One of our major idea sources these days is from the inventory of the many ideas we’ve owned or researched at some point in the past – many times, after we’ve sold those stocks, the price will come back down to a level that makes them very interesting again. Since we generally already know the company, it is just a matter of getting quickly up to speed with the latest developments to determine if it is actionable.

We also find occasional ideas by doing industry overviews to get to know a number of players in a specific sector or niche that we think may be out of favor or neglected for some reason. Often we will find a gem or two.

Finally, we get some ideas through our network of value investing contacts, and through a number of specialized research publications that we have found are compatible with our approach, of which your own publication would be one example.

But no matter the source, the ideas are merely candidates until we’ve actually produced a piece of internal research that covers the bases and gives us confidence that we understand the business, can reasonably value it and also gauge the risks factors involved.  And of course, the stock has to be cheap.

MOI: What books have you read in recent years that have stood out as valuable additions to your investment library?

Zeke Ashton: In my opinion, the most important investing book to come along in many years has been Fooling Some of the People All of the Time by David Einhorn. In writing a story about a “garden variety fraud” at a company called Allied Capital and his efforts to expose it, this book sheds a lot of light on the ugly realities of our financial regulatory system and how that system has become so terribly dysfunctional. The system is particularly unjust to short sellers who do the difficult and thankless work of uncovering fraud or excess risk at publicly traded companies. To those who wonder how a fraud on the scale of that perpetuated by Bernie Madoff could have gone undetected for so long, this book provides some answers. As an aside, it took a lot of courage for Mr. Einhorn to continue his struggle against Allied Capital and to publish this book, as the personal risks to his business and reputation were very real. For that, he has my respect and admiration.

The investing book I read most recently was More Mortgage Meltdown by Whitney Tilson and Glenn Tongue of T2 Partners. The book is a very readable and accessible discussion of how the mortgage crisis happened, and more importantly, offers some very good perspective on how the credit crisis may develop from here. In addition, there are a number of timely investment ideas presented in the form of detailed case studies that will be valuable for both beginner and advanced investors. I should disclose that Whitney and Glenn are friends of mine and that my firm manages the Tilson Dividend Fund through a joint venture with T2 Partners. So while I am no doubt a bit biased, I enjoyed the book and found it very stimulating food for thought.

MOI: You have stated that top-down risk management policies “can make the difference between survival and failure in a year like 2008.” What do those top-down policies look like at Centaur? What factors would cause them to differ from one investment manager to the next?

Zeke Ashton: Well, first of all I want to be clear...

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May 15, 2009

Mohamed El-Erian's Outlook

Read El-Erian's latest market commentary.

Will Bill Miller Have Another Rude Awakening?

Bill Miller prominently underperformed the market last year by betting big on financials just before they collapsed. As of March 31, the largest holdings of Miller's Legg Mason Value Trust included AES Corp. (AES) (6.3%), Aetna Inc. (AET) (5.8%), UnitedHealth Group Inc. (UNH) (5.1%), eBay Inc. (EBAY) (4.3%), Yahoo Inc. (YHOO) (4.2%), CA Inc. (CA) (4.1%), Sears Holdings Corp. (SHLD) (4.0%), Amazon.com Inc. (AMZN) (4.0%), Cisco Systems Inc. (CSCO) (3.9%), and IBM Corp. (IBM) (3.9%).

Miller continues his bullishness on select financial stocks and appears to suggest that the recent market rally could be the beginning of a new bull market. Writes Miller in his Q1 letter,

The rally that began following the March 6th bottom at 666 on the S&P 500 has had a different character from those embedded in the bear market that began with the credit disruptions of August 2007. Whether it is the beginning of a new bull market, which it will be if the economy begins a sustainable period of growth later this year, or if it is just a solid rally in an ongoing bear market, which appears to be the overwhelming consensus, is of course unknown at this point.

If it is a bear market rally, it is one we have not seen since the late 1930s. Its behavior is much more like the rally that ended the 1973-1974 bear market, or the one that began off the bottom in 1982, or even that which erupted in March 2003 from the last debt deflation scare. It has been longer and broader off the bottom, with fewer chances to get in, than the bear market rallies that characterized the post-war period. We have had six straight weeks of gains (seven for the NASDAQ), whereas the most we could muster in 2008 was three weeks of gains.

This move has been led by the classic early cyclicals: financials, housing, and consumer discretionary names such as retailers and restaurants - an encouraging sign that may be signaling the end of the long period of economic decline that began in December 2007. Another hopeful note is the strength of stocks in emerging markets, which are highly sensitive to incremental economic growth. China is up over 30 percent this year, Korea over 20 percent, India 17 percent, and most other Asian markets are higher by double digits on the year. In the Americas, Brazil and Venezuela are up over 20 percent, Chile and Argentina are up double digits, Canada is up 6 percent, as is the NASDAQ in the U.S.

The breadth of the rally globally is a good sign. The S&P 500 is still down 4 percent, and the Dow Jones Industrial Average is down almost 8 percent, but it will be hard for them to remain down if most other global markets are able to hold their gains. This global bear market and financial crisis have shown how interconnected and correlated the world’s economies and asset values are: Just as decoupling was wrong on the downside, it almost certainly will prove to be wrong on the upside.

As much as we'd like to agree with Bill Miller, his commentary may reflect wishful thinking as much as reality. Comparing the recent up-move in the stock market to historical rallies has almost zero predictive value, in our view. What matters is whether the economy is on a sustainable upswing. We have not seen convincing evidence to this effect, leaving us skeptical that the bear market is over.

Don't get us wrong. We invest for the long term and don't try to time the market. As such, we are betting that Bill Miller will be right -- eventually. However, if Miller is picking investments with the view that the recent rally will continue unabated in the short term, he may be in for another rude awakening. In our view, investors should choose companies that will do well even if the bear market continues for quite some time to come.

Read Bill Miller's Q1 letter.

Q1 Letter of Longleaf Funds

Mason Hawkins' commentary is always a worthwhile read, and it is no different this quarter. Writes Hawkins,

Never in our investing careers has the obsession with macro economic trends so overwhelmed the interest in fundamental analysis. People ask about our forecasts on interest rates, economic growth, inflation, currencies, government debt, geopolitical events, commodity prices, and the stock market. Our answers surely disappoint because we tell them we offer no unique clairvoyance that has a high probability of being useful. When we discuss the characteristics of the businesses we own, something we can talk about with a degree of certainty, many lose interest. Market commentators’ remarks often imply that the old-fashioned approach of buying and holding individual undervalued securities as a protection against future events is not only antiquated but worthless in this environment. Because macro events indeed dominated returns in all asset classes in 2008, people illogically are extrapolating that macro events will exclusively dictate all future performance.

Read the Longleaf Q1 letter.

May 14, 2009

Jean-Marie Eveillard on Global Value Investing

We have tracked down notes from a presentation on international value investing by Jean-Marie Eveillard in 2005. In the speech, Eveillard disputes the concept of a "value trap" and argues that investors should be primarily concerned with avoiding permanent impairment of capital.

OID Notes: David Winters, December 2008

Value investor David Winters of the Wintergreen Fund addressed an audience of the American Association of Individual Investors on December 3, 2008. A recently published issue of Outstanding Investor Digest includes notes from Winters' presentation.

Walter Schloss Talks Investing, February 2008 (video)


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OID Notes: Seth Klarman at Graham & Dodd Breakfast

Read the notes, as published in Outstanding Investor Digest.

May 13, 2009

Warren Buffett's Book Recommendations

Warren Buffett has done a great job educating Berkshire Hathaway investors about the art and craft of investing over the past several decades. Here are some of the books he has recommended:

Charlie Munger's Book Recommendations

Berkshire Hathaway Vice-Chairman Charlie Munger has recommended the following books on various occasions:


Stanford Lawyer Magazine Interview with Charlie Munger

Charlie Munger, vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway and founder of law firm Munger, Tolles & Olson, recently interviewed with Stanford Lawyer Magazine. Highlights:

SL: As we look at the current situation, how much of the responsibility would you lay at the feet of the accounting profession?

Munger: I would argue that a majority of the horrors we face would not have happened if the accounting profession developed and enforced better accounting. They are way too liberal in providing the kind of accounting the financial promoters want. They’ve sold out, and they do not even realize that they’ve sold out.

SL: Would you give an example of a particular accounting practice you find problematic?

Munger: Take derivative trading with mark-to-market accounting, which degenerates into mark-to-model. Two firms make a big derivative trade and the accountants on both sides show a large profit from the same trade.

SL: You and your partner, Warren Buffett, have for years warned about the dangers of the modern derivatives markets, particularly credit derivatives, and about interest rate swaps, currency swaps, and equity swaps.

Munger: Interest rate swaps have enormous dangers given their size and the accounting that has been allowed. But credit default derivatives took that danger to new levels of excess—from something
that was already gross and wrong. In the ’20s we had the “bucket shop.” The term bucket shop was a term of derision, because it described a gambling parlor. The bucket shop didn’t buy any securities. It just enabled people to make bets against the house and the house furnished little statements of how the bets came out. It was like the off-track betting system.

SL: Until the house lost its money and suddenly disappeared. Or the house made its money and suddenly disappeared.

Munger: That is right. Derivatives trading, with no central clearing, brought back the bucket shop, because you could make bets without having any interest in the basic security, and people did make such bets in the billions and billions of dollars. Some of the most admired people in finance—including Alan Greenspan—argued that derivatives trading, substituting for the old bucket shop, was a great contribution to modern economic civilization. There’s another word for this: bonkers. It is not a credit to academic economics that Greenspan’s view was so common.

SL: The Federal Reserve is today buying assets that it wouldn’t have even considered looking at a year ago.

Munger: I think the problem is so extreme that nothing non-extreme has any chance of working. I like the fact that it is so willing to do things that have never been done before, because we have problems that we have never seen before. I am a right-wing Republican, and I like the fact that Obama has put into the White House Larry Summers, who is a ferociously smart human being and will try to do the right thing even if it offends some people. I think that’s a quality that we need right now.

SL: How and why do you think economists have gotten this so wrong?

Munger: I would argue that the economists have not been all that good at working concepts of good and evil into their profession. Nor do they understand, at all well, the economic consequences of bad accounting.

SL: In fact, they’ve made a profession of driving value judgments out of the subject.

Munger: Yes. They say it’s not economics if you think about the consequences of good and evil, and good and bad business accounting. I think what we’re learning is that when you don’t understand these consequences, you don’t have an adequately skilled profession. You have big gaps in what you need. You have a profession that’s like the man that Nietzsche ridiculed because he had a lame leg and was very proud of it. The economics profession has been proud of its lame leg.

Read the entire interview, including Munger's views on President Obama, investment mistakes, and China. Watch an excerpt of the interview.

(Thanks to David Lau for bringing the above interview to our attention.)

May 11, 2009

Today's Presentation on Target, by Bill Ackman

Download Bill Ackman's presentation on Target, dated May 11th.

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May 07, 2009

Jeremy Grantham's Q1 Letter

Dan Loeb's Q1 Letter to Third Point Investors

Third Point Q1'09 Investor Letter Third Point Q1'09 Investor Letter DealBook Daniel Loeb's first-quarter letter to investors

May 06, 2009

Whitney Tilson & Glenn Tongue -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

Whitney Tilson and Glenn Tongue, Managing Partners of T2 Partners and the Tilson Mutual Funds, recently finished their speech at the Value Investing Congress, entitled An Update on the Mortgage Crisis and a Discussion of Wells Fargo. The following are our notes from the presentation.

Opportunities for Long Investing

  • Blue-chips: Coca-Cola (KO), McDonald’s (MCD), Wal-Mart (WMT), Altria (MO), ExxonMobil (XOM), Johnson and Johnson (JNJ), and Microsoft (MSFT)
  • Out-of-favor blue-chips: Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A), Wells Fargo (WFC), American Express (AXP), Target (TGT)
  • Balance sheet plays: EchoStar (SATS), dELiA’s (DLIA)
  • Turnarounds: Wendy’s (WEN), Winn-Dixie (WINN), Huntsman (HUN), Crosstex (XTXI), and Resource America (REXI)
  • Special situations: Contango Oil and Gas (MCF)
  • Mispriced "options": General Growth Properties (GGWPQ.PK), TravelCenters of America (TA), Ambassadors International (AMIE), Borders Group (BGP) and PhotoChannel Networks (PNWIF.OB).
Investment Idea: Long Wells Fargo (WFC)
  • Idea is not as attractive as it was two weeks ago.
  • Whitney and Glenn were short WFC at $30/share and covered around $10/share. They are now long.
  • WFC net income spread was 4.8% and could be seen as a competitive “moat.” Believes the combined earnings power (normalized) of WFC/Wachovia is $3.55 to $4.26/share.
  • Bull case: $4.00/share in earnings power. Implies a $40-$50 stock price at 10-12x earnings. Enormous yield spreads. Wachovia portfolio already significantly marked down. Buffett recently touted the stock and said he would have been willing to put 100% of his net worth in WFC when it was trading at lower levels earlier in the year.
  • Potential risks: Wells Fargo has a minimal amount of tangible equity to absorb losses—Glenn and Whitney think they have no tangible equity (which makes them cautious). Expect losses to be between $47 billion and $120 billion in the future. They have provisions in the low $20 billion range right now.

Mortgage Market Analysis and Outlook

  • About two-thirds of homes have mortgages. Of those homes, 56% are owned or guaranteed by the two government sponsored enterprises (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac). There was a surge of toxic mortgages over the past ten years. The wave of resets from subprime loans is mostly behind us.
  • What is ahead of us? Alt-A = $2.4 trillion category (much larger than subprime—known as "liars loans"). Alt-A mortgages and their resets are mostly ahead of us. Alt-A delinquencies by vintage show the collapse in lending standards in 2006 and 2007. About $750 billion of Option ARMS were written in 2007 and three-fourths were written in the four housing bubble states. Option ARMs are beginning to soar.Delinquencies on jumbo prime mortgages are soaring. This is the next big wave to hit California. Delinquencies on prime mortgages are beginning to soar.
  • HELOCs and home equity loans were also popular during the bubble. This is a $1 trillion market. Of the $1trillion loans, only $200 billion were securitized—so much of this is still on many of the banks' books. 30% of all cars purchased in CA in 2007 were purchased with HELOCs.
  • Housing outlook: Existing homes sales are falling and foreclosures are rising, leading to a surge in inventories. Whitney says there’s a huge amount of "shadow inventory" on banks' books. The current month’s supply numbers greatly understate the severity of the housing environment.
  • Foreclosure filings have increased dramatically. Foreclosures in March rose 48%, y-y and 17% sequentially. RealtyTrac estimates that over 1.5 million bank-owned properties are on the market, representing around a third of all properties for sale in the U.S.
  • Home prices are in a freefall. Whitney uses the Case/Shiller national index to gauge home prices.
  • Whitney said that home prices need to fall another 5-10% to approach the long term trend line. He says the real danger is not returning to trend, but overshooting the trend line. Home prices in California have already overshot the trend line.
  • Outlook for housing prices: Prices are down about 30%; "trend" would be down about 40%. Prices could go down 45-50%, and it will take another year or so to get there.
  • Total estimated financial sector losses will be about $3.8 trillion. Institutions have been able to raise capital to mostly keep up with write downs, but this is not likely to continue.

About the Speakers

Whitney TilsonWhitney R. Tilson is the Founder and a Managing Partner of T2 Partners LLC, which manages three private investment partnerships and the Tilson Mutual Funds. He is Co-Editor-in-Chief of Value Investor Insight. Tilson has been a guest on Lou Dobbs Moneyline and Wall $treet Week, has been profiled by the Wall Street Journal and is a regular columnist for Financial Times. He is the Co-Founder and Chairman of the Value Investing Congress.

Glenn TongueGlenn H. Tongue is a Managing Partner of T2 Partners LLC and the Tilson Mutual Funds. Mr. Tongue spent 17 years on Wall Street, most recently as an investment banker at UBS, where he was a Managing Director and Head of Acquisition Finance. Before UBS, Mr. Tongue was at DLJ for 13 years, the last three of which he served as the President of NYSE-listed DLJdirect. Prior to that he was a Managing Director in the Investment Bank at DLJ, where he worked on over 100 transactions aggregating more than $40 billion.

Disclosure: No positions.

Interesting Links

  1. T2 Partner's 13F-HR filings 
  2. Value Investor Insight
  3. Seeking Alpha articles
  4. 60 Minutes interview

The author of this post is MOI research associate Zain Griffith, who is attending the Value Investing Congress in Pasadena this week. Contact Zain directly at zain@manualofideas.com.

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J. Carlo Cannell's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

J. Carlo Cannell J. Carlo Cannell, founder of Cannell Capital, has just completed his presentation, entitled Hydrodamalis Gigas, at the Value Investing Congress. The following are our notes from the presentation.

Extinction and Investing

  • Example #1: The Steller’s Sea Cow is known as Hydrodamalis Gigas (which is extinct) and is the title of the presentation. Before humans arrived, they ranged along the North Pacific coast. By the middle of the 18th century, they were restricted to the Bering Sea with a population of around 1,500. They were hunted for food, skins, and fat oil and went extinct in just 27 years after being discovered. How does this relate to investing? Sometimes new circumstances come into the equation or investment situation. Some species (companies) can have a more difficult time adapting to a changing environment. For example, a restaurant would have a more difficult time adapting to a slowdown in the economy than an oil/gas company.
  • Example #2: Irish Elk (Megaloceros Giganteus)—extinct. Became extinct due to maladaptive traits. How does this relate to investing? Some corporate creatures are struggling for survival. We cannot predict when the environment will change. Companies that have fallen victim to this form of extinction include: Orange 21 Inc, Bakers Footwear, Heelys, and Design Within Reach.
  • Example #3: The California Condor (Gymnogyps Californianus) – critically endangered. Carrion scavengers like the condor were taxonomically diverse in North America during the Pleistocene. The Pleistocene was a colder time with wide open grasslands, sustaining “megafauna” including mammoths, bison, and ground sloths. Condors feasted on the abundant carcasses. The combination of warmer climate and the arrival of humans drove the species to the verge of extinction. How does this relate to investing? Example American Automakers—akin to the condor?
  • Example 4: The Red Queen Effect: for an evolving system, continued development is needed in order to maintain viable fitness relative to a system it is co-evolving with. For example, faster cheetahs result in selection for faster antelopes, faster antelopes select for faster cheetahs. This relates to business through price wars. For example, Best Buy vs. Circuit City and how a reduction in prices can have a negative spiral effect. Relates this example of extinction to the semiconductor equipment industry as well.
  • Buffett avoids many of these risks by investing in companies that are more essential (i.e. razor blades). Carlo tries to observe the patterns which govern nature—and makes investments based on his conclusions. It’s easier to benefit from the laws of nature than to try and predict the next Coke.
  • Industries he finds attractive: agriculture –mentions irrigation companies (mentioned two based in Omaha) , oil/gas (equipment service companies)—mentions sandridge-quicksilver-pioneer, some precious metals and the death care industry (cremation).

About Carlo Cannell

Cannell has 16 years of experience investing in small caps and over 19 years of experience in analysis of technology companies. A graduate of Princeton, he attended New College, Oxford, and studied business at Templeton College. Mr. Cannell, a third generation investment manager, is the Managing Member of Cannell Capital LLC in Jackson, Wyoming.

Interesting Links

  1. Cannell Capital's 13F-HR filings 
  2. Cannell discusses a potential proxy fight with MFRI

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Scott Klein's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

Scott Klein

Scott Klein, Managing Partner of Beach Point Capital Management, recently completed a compelling presentation entitled Opportunities in Stressed and Distressed Credit. The following are our notes:

About Beach Point Capital

  • Specializes in high yield bonds, corporate loans, distressed debt and other credit related strategies.
  • The firm has over $3.7 billion in AUM.
  • Investment team includes 15 people with offices in Los Angeles and New York.
The Opportunity in Distressed Investing
  • The distressed debt market is currently presenting an “opportunity of a generation.” The key in distressed debt is the ability to analyze legal documents and bond covenants.
  • The high yield market is currently yielding 16%-18%.  Distressed debt can offer investors better downside protection than many equities.
  • On the high yield side, Klein sees companies with mid teens yields that are attractive. Example: Dole Foods. The company missed a window of opportunity to refinance some of its debt. This particular example is yielding 16% and the downside is par (very safe, high yielding piece of paper).
  • The high-yield default rate is increasing (about 10%-12%)—default rates are a lagging indicator.
  • One of their largest distressed holdings is called Digital Globe. They are a content provider for Google Earth (satellite imagery). They filed for bankruptcy after a failed satellite launch. In this situation, Beach Point turned its private debt into equity and the company recently filed an S-1  and should go public soon.
  • The high yield market has gained 35% on average during the two years following a monthly decline of 5% or more.

About Scott Klein

Scott Klein is Managing Partner and Portfolio Manager for Beach Point Capital Management with $3 billion under management. He has over 17 years of experience in managing high yield bonds, bank loans and distressed debt portfolios and restructuring companies in financial distress. Before founding Beach Point, Mr. Klein was Senior Managing Director at Post Advisory Group, where he spent over 12 years helping grow the company from under $200 million in assets to over $10 billion. In the early 1990s, he spent four years as a bankruptcy attorney at the law firm of Murphy, Weir and Butler.
Mr. Klein received a bachelor's from Wharton (magna cum laude) and a J.D. from UCLA.

Disclosure: No postions.

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William Waller & Jason Stock's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

William Waller and Jason Stock, founding partners of M3 Funds, recently wrapped up their presentation at the Value Investing Congress, entitled Banks: Have We Seen the Worst of It? The following are our notes.

M3 Funds: Investing in Under-followed Banks

  • Manage a long/short equity fund focused on the U.S. Banking Thrift Sector. M3 focuses on under-followed banks. There are 1,300 publicly traded banks, 5,500 private banks, 700 mutual banks and 7,900 credit unions. M3 focuses on publicly traded banks—93% of which have a market cap below $500 million. Jason believes he has a competitive advantage in investing in under-followed banks.
  • He views a bank as a leveraged play on the market in which it operates. M3 conducts research on individual banks through extensive travel, public records searches, private banks and credit unions, FDIC data—call reports, real estate agents and developers.
State of U.S. Banking Sector
  • Sector is significantly under-capitalized. This the sector's #1 problem.
  • Credit quality has deteriorated and will continue to deteriorate.
  • The number of bank failures is accelerating.
  • Tangible equity/asset ratios have “fallen off a cliff” in 2007-08 and are 4%-5% vs. historical levels of 6%-7%. These ratios are not sufficient to handle the losses that will come in the future.
  • Total delinquencies: Construction 12%, 1-4 Family 8%, CRE 2.6%, C&I 2.8%, consumer 5%.
  • Jason says that call reports are the best way to analyze banks.
  • Where we are headed: Commercial real estate (CRE), consumer loans (auto, credit cards)—have yet to see meaningful deterioration on many banks' balance sheets. Auto loans have held up rather well but he’s starting to see deterioration in this category of loans.
  • Jason sees a significant amount of bank failures in the future. There have been about 30 bank failures YTD. He sees this number rising to 150+ by the end of the year. He said that regulators might be overwhelmed (not enough staff) and thinks that they could shut down over 100 banks right now if they had enough people.
  • Can TARP, TALF, PPIP, accounting changes help? They will help some banks, but not all.
State of Commercial Real Estate
  • Unemployment will continue to rise and commercial real estate is the next shoe to drop.
  • Roughly 25% of all CRE is securitized, most of which was originated between 2002-07 and is now beginning to come due.
  • CRE vacancies are rising—commercial foreclosure process is just beginning, which will impact all commercial values and CAP rates.
  • The primary problem areas include: retail strip centers and office.
Investment Approach: Criteria for Long Positions
  • Low price to tangible book value, excess capital
  • Low loan to deposit ratio
  • Attractive markets (looks at real estate and employment trends—likes state capitals and university towns for longs since these provide a very stable job base)
  • Bearish management team
  • Share repurchase plan
  • Attractive deposit base
  • Excess capital is the number one statistic that M3 focuses on
  • Jason also said that a bank’s biggest asset is its liability base (deposits) and a bank’s biggest liability can be its asset base (loans)—he views the deposit base as a hidden asset.
Long Investment Idea: First of Long Island (FLIC)
  • $1.25 billion asset bank headquartered in Glen Head, NY.
  • 140% of tangible book value and 11x LTM earnings. Hidden value in branch ownership would increase TBV by 15%.
  • Excess capital: 8.5% common tangible equity/assets.
  • 68.5% loan to deposit ratio—very disciplined underwriter. $1 billion of high quality deposits with a 1% cost. Pristine credit quality: very low non-performing assets at 3/31/09.
  • Near term catalyst: Russell 2000 addition requires 400K+ shares.

Investment Approach: Criteria for Short Positions

  • Overstated or declining tangible book value, thin capital structure
  • Negative credit trends—rising early stage delinquencies, out of market exposure—high severity loss markets
  • Bullish management team
  • High-cost deposit base and wholesale funding
  • Aggressive underwriting—high growth rates and risky securities portfolio
Short Investment Idea: FNB Corporation (FNB)
  • Do not think it’s a zero, just trading too high given credit risk they have.
  • Trades at over 2x tangible book and 20x LTM earnings.
  • Thin capital structure—4.5% common tangible equity/assets ($357M). $294 million of loans in FL of which 50% are land loans.
  • Credit quality is deteriorating—over 2% of assets are non-performing.
  • High severity of loss on the FL exposure—reserves are insufficient.
  • Loan mix—33% consumer, 30% CRE, and 20% C&I.
  • The company should trade down to book value and will need to raise additional capital in the future.

Key Takeaways

  • The U.S. banking sector remains under-capitalized.
  • Commercial real estate and C&I loans pose a serious threat to the banking sector.
  • The Fed’s current actions are creating long-term risks for the banking sector and the broader economy. Common stockholders are at risk in the majority of banks.
  • Recommendations for investors: Find a niche and become the ultimate expert. Utilize technology and creative strategies to gather information. Timing the market is difficult; develop a firm thesis and be disciplined. Manage risk well—never concentrate a portfolio in one investment. Always ask yourself if you have a competitive advantage. Don’t just read it or hear it—go see it for yourself.
  • Q&A: Which banks do you think are zeros? Very small, obscure community banks would be high on the list. He thinks that Citigroup (C) and Bank of America (BAC) common shareholders could potentially get wiped out.

About the Speakers

William WallerWilliam C. Waller is a founding partner and Managing Member of M3 Funds, LLC. He has over 10 years experience analyzing and investing in the bank and thrift sector. Prior to M3, he was employed by Hovde Capital Advisors LLC, in Washington, DC, where he spent over six years working with the firm’s series of financial services sector investment funds. At Hovde, Mr. Waller worked in portfolio management, investment analysis, and risk management. Mr. Waller spent two years working on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange as an analyst and trading assistant at the firm of Dippell & Company, a registered competitive market maker. Mr. Waller has studied the banking and credit union system in the United States. Mr. Waller received his Bachelor of Science in Accounting from the University of Utah.

Jason A. StockJason A. Stock is a founding partner and Managing Member of M3 Funds, LLC. He is responsible for managing the trading and operational functions for the firm while actively participating in the portfolio management process. He has over 10 years of experience in the investment field with specific expertise in the banking sector. Prior to founding M3, Mr. Stock was the Head Trader at Hovde Capital Advisors, an investment manager for the Financial Institution Partners series of funds, where he was responsible for the trading and analysis of investment opportunities with an emphasis on community banks, thrifts, and mutual holding companies. Mr. Stock spent 6 years at Fidelity Investments in both Salt Lake City and San Francisco. Mr. Stock earned a Bachelor of Science degree in Finance from Westminster College in Salt Lake City, Utah. 

Disclosure: No positions.

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May 05, 2009

Dave Rabinowitz's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

David Rabinowitz David Rabinowitz, who runs Kirkwood Capital, spoke at the Value Investing Congress today. The following are our notes from his presentation, entitled Stock-picking for the Scared and the Ignorant: Notes from an Expert.

Investment Approach

  • David focuses on the downside of an idea more than the upside.
  • He takes a very long time to understand an idea before taking a position.
  • He often holds large amounts of cash—often for extended periods of time. Also, it takes him a very long time to find ideas.
  • He believes in specializing in a few industries—he specializes in restaurants and retailers.
  • He conducts extensive research, including reading 10-Ks, industry publications, even bankruptcy filings of former companies—which he says can be more helpful in understanding an industry or the competitive landscape than reading current annual reports.
  • Understanding an industry very well will help an investor capitalize on an idea when it presents itself. It helps him act quickly when he sees opportunity.
View of Restaurant Industry
  • David does not own any restaurants or retailers right now.
  • From his experience at looking at retail over the past 10-15 years, he does not feel that individual opportunities are currently as exciting as they’ve been in prior years (i.e. 1994-1995). 
  • Retail valuations are currently much higher than in the recession of 1994-1995.

Investment Idea: LONG Lancashire Holdings (LCSHF)

  • Four year old Bermuda based insurance company (specialty insurer) trading at book value. 
  • Trades on the LSE under the ticker LRE. $1.27 bil market cap. Founded in late 2005.
  • Not like a normal insurer. Only 14% of book is reinsurance, 86% of current business is primary.
  • LRE is not “part hedge fund” 85% of investment book is “risk-free.” LRE has a very conservatively run investment portfolio
  • CEO Richard Brindle has a very successful track record. The CEO cares more about underwriting, maintaining a strong balance sheet, managing capital through the cycle, and staying nimble. They’re not trying to rule the insurance world.
  • Investment portfolio returned 3.1% in 2008, duration consistently below 2.0, $300mil in corporate bonds (none below investment grade) in $2bil portfolio. 
  • Management has stated that they’re willing to walk away from premiums.
  • Operating expense less than 10% of premiums and has about 91 employees.
  • Gross written premium down 16% in 2008, Q109 GWP down 20-25%. Returned about $397 million of capital in 2007 and 2008. CAGR of book value since inception has been ~18%. 
  • Management ROE goal = 13% plus risk free rate.
  • Valuation: Believes it could trade between 1.5x-2x book value (profits made in the mean time are being returned to shareholders). Bases this multiple on: 1) reserve additions being highly unlikely, 2) investment book is not at risk, 3) Bermuda taxation, 4) Conservative management.

About David Rabinowitz

Dave Rabinowitz runs Kirkwood Capital, the Atlanta-based investment fund he founded with Gotham Capital in 2002. Prior to founding Kirkwood, he worked as an attorney with the Special Matters department of King & Spalding in Atlanta. Mr. Rabinowitz has also been an adjunct professor at Columbia Business School's Value Investing program. He is a graduate of Binghamton University and Emory Law School.

Disclosure: No positions.

Interesting Links

  1. Kirkwood Capital's 13F-HR filings 
  2. Recent SC 13D filing

The author of this post is MOI research associate Zain Griffith, who is attending the Value Investing Congress in Pasadena this week. Contact Zain directly at zain@manualofideas.com.

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Jed Nussdorf's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

Jed Nussdorf Jed Nussdorf, founder of Soapstone Capital, recently finished his presentation at the Value Investing Congress. The following are our notes of the presentation, entitled In Search of Pricing Power.

Area of Investment Opportunity: Reinsurance
  • Jed sees opportunity (pricing power) in certain lines of reinsurance.
  • Equity market participants have not recognized the pricing dynamic and reinsurance equities are trading at historical low valuations relative to earnings and book value, excluding distressed carriers.
  • Reinsurers that are most interesting include RenaissanceRe Holdings (RNR), Validus Holdings (VR) and Lancashire Holdings (LCSHF).

Economic Context and Investment Approach

  • Global recession has pressured demand for most goods and services, while supply/capacity for those goods has yet to respond, pressuring pricing across the economy.
  • Excess capacity exists in most areas of transportation, power and energy, real estate, and consumer services given declining demand for goods, electricity, space, and discretionary expenditures.
  • Jed looks for industries with more inelastic demand functions, preferably with static or decreasing supply, enabling pricing to hold, if not rise. He looks for evidence of pricing power, which is typically accompanied by accelerating revenue growth and operating margin expansion.

About Soapstone Capital

  • Backed by Joel Greenblatt (founded Soapstone Capital four years ago). In sourcing ideas, he looks for companies with pricing power.

About Jed Nussdorf

Jed Nussdorf is the Managing Member of Soapstone Capital. Prior to founding Soapstone in 2005, Mr. Nussdorf was a managing director at Force Capital Management from 2003-2005. He earned an M.B.A. from Wharton.

Disclosure: No positions.

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Guy Spier's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

Guy Spier Guy Spier, founder of Aquamarine Capital, gave a presentation at the Value Investing Congress today, entitled Investing in Global Education - From China to Brazil. The following are our notes from his speech:

Non-U.S. For-Profit Education

  • The world is becoming more developed (meat consumption, milk, etc. are increasing). Not so sure about the "trends" in iron/oil—may not want to bet on these since iron can be recycled and there are alternatives to oil. He believes that food is a better trend to bet on.
  • People will demand more education in the future. This bodes well for education companies such as Raffles Education, Corinthian Colleges (COCO), etc.  
  • Bullish on Brazil: has $2 trillion GDP, 200 million population, largest iron ore mine in the world. Brazil does not have a system of community colleges. Gross enrollment rate in Brazil is 24% vs. 80%+ in USA.
  • Guy sees a lot of potential in non-US based education companies.
Investment Idea: Estacio De SA
  • Largest player in the private post-secondary education sector in Brazil.
  • GP Investments is involved with Estacio.
  • The founding family acquired many “mom and pop” education companies.
  • Trades at a single digit to EBITDA, has low EBITDA margins (room for improvement), management is intent on creating a lot of value.
  • Thesis relies on: Developing duopoly in Brazil for post secondary education, low penetration, no community colleges, undeveloped consumer finance sector, natural resource based economy. This is an investment that Guy plans on holding for the next 20 years.
Investment Idea: Raffles Education
  • Headquartered in Singapore.
  • They are different than other education companies in China in that they turn out English-speaking graduates.
  • The company is cheap and has a dividend yield of 5-6%. Company is trading at a single digit multiple to EBITDA.
Key Lessons Learned Last Year
  • Pay attention to concentrations of risk (credit, geography, customer, other..)
  • Pay attention to hidden leverage,
  • Tangible vs. intangible assets (he likes intangible assets—going forward he is going to pay more attention to tangible assets),
  • Position sizing,
  • Always carry lots of cash at all levels.

About Aquamarine Capital

  • Aquamarine was down 46.7% in 2008, up about 2.9% in 2009. He describes himself as a “focused investor.” Guy’s fund has recovered 26% from March 1 through April 24, 2009. He feels prepared to hold his key positions.
  • He uses checklists when investing, similar to Charlie Munger. A checklist he recently developed includes business specific questions as well as psychological factors. Guy has used a checklist for investing for many years, but since 2008, has had to rethink many of the factors he considers before taking a position. For investors, he stresses the importance of developing a checklist and continuing to add and improve the items one considers before investing in an idea.

About Guy Spier

Since 1995 Guy Spier has been running Aquamarine Capital Management, LLC. Investors include friends and family, high net worth individuals, and private banks investing on behalf of their clients. The fund has market beating returns - and has received mentions by Lipper and Nelson's world's best money managers. The investees can be obscure or they can also be very well known.The fund has also done well owning the shares of less understood, but very high quality, cash generative businesses. It currently owns several credit rating companies as well as several post secondary education companies. The ratings business (whether of debt securities, or of individuals, through education) is one of the best businesses that Guy has ever seen, and is consistently underestimated by investors.

Disclosure: No positions.

Interesting Links:

  1. Examiner.com interview
  2. Recent comments on Warren Buffet's performance
  3. Guy's blog

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John Burbank's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

John Burbank IIIJohn Burbank, founder of Passport Capital, recently concluded his speech at the Value Investing Congress. The following are our notes from the presentation, entitled China and the U.S. Dollar: "Should We See Other People?"

Key Themes and Conclusions

  • Fiat money is questionable
  • Gold is on the rise
  • Tailwinds for scarce natural resources and emerging market currencies are in place.
  • China’s growth should become increasingly independent (they have the cash and knowledge).

Investment Ideas

  • Current Passport Capital holdings -- fertilizers: Mosaic (MOS), Potash (POT). Crude oil: Petrobank (PBG CN) and EFG Hermes (HRHO EY).
  • Burbank believes in being long financial services in the Middle East. 
  • Gold (see below)

On China and the Big Picture

  • China is “the world’s marginal provider of liquidity.” (See recent Economist publication on China).
  • You cannot only take a bottom up approach; you must understand the top down (macro picture).
  • If you look at GPD to private debt, in China these two metrics have risen at about the same rate. In the US, total debt and private debt have risen much quicker than GDP.  He believes this will serve China well in the future. The US is currently printing money ($2.2 trillion in new government debt from TARP and other spending). Asks the question: Which would you rather own?
  • China currently holds 24% of Treasuries, Japan about 21%, Eurozone 8%, Middle East 6%, Brazil-Russia-UK = 4%.
  • China’s options for investment in the future: 1) Maintain status quo (consequences: continue purchasing treasury securities and have the US government be your primary capital allocator) 2) diversification, 3) invest in yourself, 4) invest in things you will need.
  • Things China will buy for itself: Education, Entertainment, Leisure, Financial Services. Passport only buys companies trading in Hong Kong, Singapore or the United States.
  • What China needs most: Iron ore, potash, crude oil, copper, soy beans. China is a net importer of these commodities and Burbank believes this should shape portfolio decisions with respect to commodities.
On Gold
  • Gold has an annualized appreciation rate of 13.2% over the past decade. China will be a very large buyer of gold in the future. Burbank believes that, from a game theory perspective, there is no reason for China not to purchase gold in the future.
  • Lebanon has the highest gold/GDP percentage in the world at 28.8%. US and China Gold/GDP are 1.7% and 0.8%, respectively.
  • How Passport owns gold: 1) Equities: challenging, as gold miners tend to make value-destroying acquisitions. Passport leverages team of analysts and geologists to identify earlier-stage assets. Detour Gold (DRGDF.PK) is a company they own. Passport also owns gold ETFs (proxy for physical gold) (GLD)
About John Burbank

Burbank is the founder and Chief Investment Officer of Passport Capital, LLC, a San Francisco global hedge fund. The firm manages over $2 billion. Passport employs macro-economic and sector analysis to identify opportunities from the long term expansion of leading emerging economies, select natural resource scarcity, and network business models common to the technology and service sectors. Investments primarily emphasize public equity securities. Passport also makes highly targeted investments in equity derivatives, select private companies, and swap contracts. Mr. Burbank has over a decade of experience investing in global equity markets. Prior to founding the firm in 2000, he was a consultant to JMG Triton Offshore, Ltd. and before that was the director of research at ValueVest Management. He earned a B.A. from Duke and an M.B.A. from Stanford.

Interesting Links

  1. Passport Capital investment strategy
  2. Passport's Burbank Warns of Deflationary Bust
  3. Forbes.com Profile
  4. Passport Capital's 13F-HR filings

The author of this post is MOI research associate Zain Griffith, who is attending the Value Investing Congress in Pasadena this week. Contact Zain directly at zain@manualofideas.com.

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Disclosure: Long gold futures, no positions in other securities mentioned in this article.

Brian Gaines's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

Brian Gaines, founder of Springhouse Capital, just finished his speech at the Value Investing Congress entitled Low Risk Bets in a Risky World. The following are our notes from the presentation.

Investment Idea: LONG ModusLink Global Solutions (MLNK) – formerly known as CMGI
  • Company is a supply chain management provider.
  • Main products are consumer electronics (Sandisk, AMD, and HP are largest customers).
  • Company does not take ownership of customer inventory.
  • Largest player in outsourced space. The industry still has a large number of players who want to outsource for either strategic or legacy reasons. Several competitors are distressed, versus a strong balance sheet at MLNK.
  • Largest risks here are management acquisition risk (company has a huge NOL), operational cash burn, and complete unwind of global growth and consumer electronics business.
  • Company has been good at managing costs, running positive EBITDA ($9+mil EBITDA last quarter).
  • Valuation: Low = $4.00/share (downside protection: there’s $4.70/share of liquid net working capital), Base $7.00/share, Homerun is $20/share. He only gives the NOL value in the “homerun” scenario.

Investment Idea: LONG Market Leader (LEDR)

  • One of Brian’s favorite ideas. They have a site called justlisted.com. Stock price is $1.90, cash/share is $2.40, cash burn = breakeven, views the business as a legacy in wind-down and small upcoming spend on option.
  • Made $20mm in EBITDA when the market was good. Thinks it could do $5-7mil in EBITDA and could be worth more than $5.00/share.

Investment Idea: LONG zipRealty (ZIPR)

  • Brokerage agency, operates mainly online.
  • Gives you a 20% kickback if you buy through ZIPR.
  • Stock price is $2.80, cash/share is $2.32, losing $10-12 mil ($0.50 cents per share). A high risk/high reward opportunity.

Investment Idea: LONG Tree.com (TREE)

  • Spun off from IACI. Stock price is about $9.00, cash/share is $7.00, $8M EBITDA in last quarter, clear brand name in LendingTree (medium risk/medium reward).
  • Company owns realestate.com, management owns a lot of shares. (Recent price increase makes the investment less attractive.)

Investment Idea: Short-Sell Jack in the Box (JACK)

  • He sees short opportunities in restaurant industry: Thesis is that multiples implying full recovery, cost cuts (which have boosted earnings) will end. Discounting is pervasive from QSR up to high-end dining.
  • Jack and Qdoba have higher than average company owned restaurants,
  • Qdoba was a growth engine.
  • Nearly 1/3 of operating income is refranchising. Brian believes that weakness in the company operations will limit ability to refranchise going forward. Starting six months ago the company began providing mezz financing for the franchisees.
  • Discounting is running rampant across the industry.
  • Brian estimates than franchise margin is 1.5% or $21,000 on average unit volume of $1.4mm.  
  • Valuation: Downside $26/share, Base $16/share, Homerun $10/share.

Investment Idea: Short-Sell Blackboard (BBBB)

  • Education software provider that claims to be mission critical -- basically, they set up a portal to share stuff (60% higher Ed/40% K-12).
  • Management says future growth will come from upgrades and not new licensees (believes BBBB has fully penetrated its market and customers).
  • Brian is looking out a year on this investment. He believes that BBBB is not as mission critical to the education system as the company claims it is.
  • Schools have been cutting costs -- Brian mentions an extreme example of one school in Florida that cut purchases of toilet paper.
  • Valuation: Downside $31.00/share, Base $20.00/share, Homerun $13.00/share.


About Springhouse Capital

  • Springhouse was down 10% in 2008, up 24% in 2009 YTD.
  • What do they look for?  1) Longs - 20% maximum loss over time, 50% upside in a year (or some iteration of multi-years), Looking for 5-10 great ideas at any time and to ideally be 70%-90% invested on the long side but willing to hold significant cash. 2) Shorts: 10% loss, 30% upside, small positions of 1-3% and purely based on opportunities. Uses moderate leverage, and looks for multiples on normal earnings.
  • What are they finding? Longs: Few true good stress tested mid-cap/large cap ideas (35% invested on the long side). Seeing opportunities in small and micro-caps with strong balance sheets where you can look out 1-2 years. Also sees opportunity in mediocre but clearly real businesses, possibly great businesses but unproven and flexible operating models able to adjust to new levels of demand. Shorts: Many stocks priced for perfect execution and economic rebound, approximately 30-40% gross short.

Brian Gaines

About Brian Gaines

Gaines is the Founder and Managing Partner of Springhouse Capital. Prior to founding Springhouse in 2002, he worked for Gotham Capital. Mr. Gaines is also an adjunct professor at Columbia Business School. He earned his BA from Brandeis and his MBA from Wharton.

Interesting Links

  1. Springhouse Capital's 13F-HR filings
  2. Brian Gaines discusses his investment thesis for Greenfield Online (SRVY) in 2006

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Charles de Vaulx's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

Charles de Vaulx

Value Investing Congress speaker Charles de Vaulx of International Value Advisers gave a presentation today, entitled A Cautious and Opportunistic Approach to Global Investing: Where Are We Finding Value Opportunities in the World Today. The following are our notes from his presentation.

Investment Idea: LONG SECOM (JP: 9735)

  • Japanese, steady, stable cash flows
  • Has “diworsified” over the past few years so there has been some value destruction.
  • Has a strong balance sheet, with net cash.
  • At 7x EBIT, company is cheap.

Investment Idea: LONG Nestle (NSRGY.PK)

  • If you strip out stake in L’Oreal and other stakes, you pay 9x EBIT for food business.
  • Good balance sheet.
  • Accused of overpaying for acquisitions.
  • The company appears cheap and safe.

View of Markets and Economic Outlook

  • Too many financial stocks do not offer “safety.”  Charles uses gold as an insurance policy (gold bullion—insurance against inflation/deflation—banks go bankrupt during deflation and bank “IOUs” become worth less). Cash is viewed as a residual. Would like to have twice as much capital employed in Japan but would like to see cash-rich companies be able to maintain dividends and buy back shares—needs more evidence of caring for shareholders than strictly clients, before investing more. He’s seeing very many “net nets” in Japan—not as much in the US and Europe.
  • His idea of a good business is natural monopolies. Many companies in China are very capital intensive.  Favorite way to play emerging markets is through commodities, either directly or through bonds.
  • Outlook: May remain bleak, yet some pockets of value have emerged.
Recent Lessons Learned
  • Too many people focused on the upside, not enough focus on the downside.
  • Monitoring credit cycles – following these cycles can be helpful and help determine when a bubble is forming (said he reads Grant’s Interest Rate Observer, Shilling, Marc Faber)

About International Value Advisers

  • IVA takes a cautious and opportunistic approach to global investing. 
  • It is owner operated (22-23 people)—not outside seed capital, they “eat their own cooking” ($30 mil+ of principals own money in fund) and long only.
  • Willing to make large negative bets/build portfolios that have nothing to do with a benchmark.
  • Gold is an 8% position. Uses gold bullion, money shares, or other proxies to invest in gold. About 1% of funds are in UltraShort 20+ Year Treasury ProShares (TBT). Japan is 12%.
  • Main objective is not to lose money.
  • Believes in some form of diversification. Uses calls and puts to create cheap entry prices (recently sold puts on GE, 3M and Comcast to create an entry price that makes sense to them). Since markets are higher, will most likely collect the premiums on those positions. $2.3 billion AUM.
International Investing
  • Diversification argument  [for international investing] is getting weaker—especially in a more global world,
  • The real attraction is that foreign markets remain less efficient than US markets.
  • At the margin, he believes accounting is more reliable outside the US (the real issue is poor disclosure (no 10-k’s, divisional breakdowns, etc)
  • Corporate governance outside the US needs to improve—there have been some improvements in the field of takeovers (French have improved quite a bit).
  • Small foreign stocks are not as risky as they appear—many are family controlled businesses. Family controlled businesses can be better run (less leverage, more willing to bring in outside managers) than non-family owned businesses.
  • Another argument people make against international investing is that you are exposed to fluctuations in currencies. Even though domestic investors have exposure to currency risk, his firm mitigates currency risk through hedging policies, pays attention to the types of companies he owns (i.e. export company in Japan might not need to be hedged—already has its own natural hedge).
  • Currently has cash level of 23%, 7% US, 34% high yield bonds, 8% gold, Europe 12%, Asia 15%, >1% Energy.
  • Believes on average that European stocks are 15% cheaper than U.S. stocks.

About Charles de Vaulx

Charles de Vaulx joined IVA (International Value Advisers, LLC) in May 2008 as Partner and Portfolio Manager. He is responsible for all investment decisions jointly with Charles de Lardemelle.
Until March 2007, he was Portfolio Manager of the First Eagle Global, Overseas, U.S. Value and Variable Funds, together with a number of separately managed institutional accounts. He was also solely responsible for the management of the Sofire Fund Ltd. during the time in which the fund won the Absolute Return Award back to back in 2005 and 2006 for “Fund of the Year” in the Global Equity category. Altogether, assets under Charles de Vaulx’s management totaled approximately USD $40 billion. In addition to sharing Morningstar’s “International Stock Manager of the Year” award in 2001 with his co-manager, Charles was runner-up for the same Morningstar award in 2006.

Interesting Links

  1. Barron's Profile 
  2. BusinessWeek Profile
  3. SmartMoney's "3 New Mutual Funds Worth a Look"

The author of this post is MOI research associate Zain Griffith, who is attending the Value Investing Congress in Pasadena this week. Contact Zain directly at zain@manualofideas.com.

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Zeke Ashton's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

Zeke Ashton, founder and Managing Partner of Centaur Capital, recently concluded his presentation at the Value Investing Congress. Here are our notes from the presentation, entitled Surviving the Worst Case: Risk Management and Value Investing:

LONG Investment Idea: Alleghany (Y)
  • Holding company that operates primarily in the specialty and property & causualty insurance industry.
  • Long term track record of value creation by building, acquiring, and selling businesses—particular expertise in the insurance, investment management, and natural resource areas.
  • Investment results are in high teens. Alleghany uses a “total return” approach to investing its float and has a good investment track record. Over the past five years, the company has produced a 10.6% annualized return vs. a -2.2% annualized return for the S&P 500 Index.
  • The company has a $4.1 billion investment portfolio and has a portfolio of valuable assets.
  • Valuation:  Sum of Parts: RSUI (insurance with 80% combined ration in 2008) 1.5x book = $1.65 bil. Capitol Transamerica – 1.2x book = $360 mil. EDC .75x book = $125 mil. Cash and investments at parent = $800 mil. 

LONG Investment Idea: Odyssey Re (ORH)

  • Globally diversified insurance and reinsurance company, one of the top 20 reinsurance companies in the world.
  • 71% owned by FFH, investment portfolio managed by Prem Watsa.
  • Grown BV/share by more than 20% annually since going public in 2001.
  • Buying back a ton of stock below book value. ORH spent $351 million on share buybacks in 2008, ~13% of shares outstanding in 2008.
  • Bottom Line: ORH is classified as a medium risk stock. Current book value is about $43.80/share (as of Mar. 31), thinks BV/share should increase to $47-$48. At 1.3x book, company would be worth upwards of $55+/share.

Risk Management & Value Investing

  • Many value manager downfalls may have been due to complacency. Asks the question: If the core principle of value investing is "margin of safety" then how did so many well-known value investors lose as much or more than the market average during the bear market that began in 2007? Did they do something wrong or are they unlucky? Why did their value investing principles, years of experience, and long track records of success fail to protect them? Did they become overconfident?
  • Value investors previously assessed risk at the individual position level. This was all the "risk management" that seemed required. A lesson he recently learned was that risk must be assessed from the portfolio level—looking at the portfolio from the "top down" can be a useful exercise. He believes managers should try to determine if a bubble is building and where the economy is at in the business cycle.
  • Centaur doesn’t want: 1) excessive concentration—never wants the outcome of any one or two ideas to determine their ability to survive or dominate results in a given period, 2) Excessive portfolio-wide exposure to any one specific factor or theme (i.e. inflation, interest rate/currency fluctuations), 3) Excessive leverage at the portfolio level or the individual idea level, 4) Political risk – does not want investments to be overly vulnerable to change in government regulations, laws, tax codes, etc, 5) Liquidity risk, 6) Shorting stocks—wants to avoid “blow-up” risk. Believes we will see some short funds blow up due to recent market rally.
  • Concept of Risk Limits: Zeke thinks that limits prevent investors from taking unacceptable risks, which should be thought about in advance. Home run style investors will have a different risk management style than high probability investors.
  • Helpful Limits: 1) Position size limits, 2) Total Exposure Limits (long and short), 3) Leverage Limits, 4) Limits on illiquid stocks.
  • Example of Fairfax Financial Holdings (FFH): Many people were short FFH in prior years when it really should have been a long (due to their large CDS portfolio). –Not a typical insurance holding.
  • Centaur’s ideal position is about 5%, i.e. 20 stock portfolio. Believes that 20 names in a portfolio is better than 6 or 100, thinks 20 is the sweet spot. The ultra-concentrated model increases the odds of experiencing occasional periods of outstanding performance, but also increases odds of really terrible performance.
  • Diversifying by idea doesn’t necessarily help if there is excessive sector or single factor correlation. “If you owned a bunch of different stocks in different industries that all had leveraged balance sheets, you probably didn’t benefit much from diversification in a year like 2008.”
  • Two types of leverage: 1) Recourse (high-risk leverage) 2) Non-recourse (smart leverage). Best way to achieve non-recourse leverage is by using in-the-money LEAPs—which offer reasonable implied borrowing costs as well as an implied put below a certain price.

Two Schools of Value Investing

  1. Home run (i.e. Eddie Lampert) – magnitude of winners is the success factor. If one idea triples, you can afford to have a few ideas that do not do well.
  2. High-probability (i.e. Seth Klarman) – Less concentrated portfolio, but more concentrated relative to the rest of the world. Centaur has 15-30 positions—1-2 big winners will not drive portfolio performance.  Zeke follows the high-probability approach.
  • Each style depends on the type of investor. Key is matching investment style to the type/characteristics of the capital base and manager philosophy.
  • It is important to match the attributes of the capital base to the investment style of the manager. The "home-run" style investor must have stable, long-term capital in order to compensate for higher volatility of fund performance. These types of investors are at the highest risk of business failure.
  • "High probability" investors can operate with a much more fluid capital base—business failure is driven more by showing favorably divergent returns over time.
  • Centaur risk limits: Position 7.5% --10% maximum size at market. Sector – no more than 20% in any one sector—25% at market.
  • Ingredients of a blow up: 1) excessively sized bets, 2) excessive leverage, 3) unexpected negative event, 4) inadequate liquidity to unwind the position without negatively affecting price.
  • Take away from Kelly Formula: 1) The better the idea, the bigger you can go. 2) The more undervalued the idea, the lower the risk, the bigger the position should be. Believes that investors who rely on the Kelly Formula as intellectual support to take excessively sized bets will accelerate gambler’s ruin, not avoid it. 

About Zeke Ashton

Zeke AshtonAshton is the founder and Managing Partner of Centaur Capital Partners, a Dallas-based value-oriented investment firm. He and co-portfolio manager Matthew Richey are the advisors to the Centaur family of private partnerships using a long / short equity strategy, and are the sub-advisors to the Tilson Dividend Fund, a mutual fund utilizing a unique, income-oriented value investing strategy.

Interesting Links

  1. Mr. Ashton comments on bargain priced retailers in this Fortune article 
  2. Motley Fool interview
  3. Motley Fool articles

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David Chu & Igor Lotsvin's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

David Chu and Igor Lotsvin, of Soma Asset Management, spoke today at the Value Investing Congress entitled The U.S. Banking Sector: Chaos and Opportunity. The following are our unedited notes from their presentation:

Economic Outlook
  • Wave of foreclosures is beginning to pick up and we will see a massive wave of foreclosures over the next several months.
  • Next shoe to drop is commercial real estate (more alarming than subprime). Size of commercial market in US is $3.5 trillion vs. $1.5 trillion subprime. Banks have exposure to $700 billion in construction loans (the most combustible portion of the CMBS market). Total bank’s capital is about $1 trillion.
  • The worst of the banking crisis is ahead of us. Banks are not lending. There is a massive reduction in all lines of credit, which will suffocate growth. By 2011, cards capacity will be down by $2 trillion. SBA loans are down 60%. Deposit insurance fund will run out shortly.
Investment Idea: Short-Sell Zions Bancorporation (ZION)
  • ZION focuses on the Southwest (bubble states). 22nd largest bank in the US. 7x tangible equity in RE loans and 2x tangible equity in commercial. Company’s credit is deteriorating fast, reserve coverage ratio is dropping quickly (reserves taken so far are inadequate)—holds true for the entire industry. AZ and NV are responsible for about 50% of chargeoffs.

  • Bottom Line: Banking crisis unlike anything seen before, there is deleveraging on a massive scale, disconnect between credit and equity markets, extreme correlation and volatility, banks are a proxy for all credit markets, no recovery till banking function is restored. Remain concerned and very bearish. Believes you should position your portfolio with this macro lens.

About Soma Asset Management

  • Investment philosophy (foundation of the firm): 1) Value Investing Bias (limited downside) 2) Investing (Looking) Across The Capital Structure, 3) Long Term Bias
  • 2008 performance, net, was 26%. Returns driven by focus on credit markets. Saw structured products as a leading indicator (RMBS, CDOs, CLOs, etc). The collapse in ABX preceded fall in banks. Took very large short positions in LEH, BSC, FNM.  Says the recovery rate for many loans issued by banks is 35 cents on the dollar—the carrying value on most bank balance sheets is above this level.

About the Speakers

David Chu David Chu. Prior to co-founding Soma Asset Management LLC, Mr. Chu was most recently with Scion Capital, LLC, a fundamental analysis, deep-value hedge fund with over $500 million in assets under management (AUM). While at Scion, Mr. Chu launched that firm's Asia office and served as the company's Executive Director responsible for overseeing the day-to-day operations in Asia. Mr. Chu also worked extensively on Scion's large credit default swap portfolio. Mr. Chu began his career as an investment banker at Goldman Sachs & Co. in New York in the Leveraged Structured Finance Group, where he completed high yield securities offerings and project finance transactions across numerous sectors. Additionally, Mr. Chu was a private equity executive both domestically and internationally, specializing in bankruptcy and distressed opportunities, and worked in financial operations for a technology company. Mr. Chu graduated magna cum laude from Georgetown and earned an MBA from Harvard Business School.

Igor LotsvinIgor Lotsvin. Prior to co-founding Soma Asset Management LLC, Mr. Lotsvin was a portfolio manager with Symphony Asset Management, LLC, a multi-strategy hedge fund and an asset management firm with over $7 billion in AUM. While at Symphony, Mr. Lotsvin was part of the portfolio management team working on the firm's flagship long/short equity hedge funds (with over $1 billion in AUM) and was lead portfolio manager on several long-only strategies. Mr. Lotsvin was instrumental in building Symphony's long-only strategies, having helped develop this business from concept to over $1.2 billion in AUM. Prior to joining Symphony in 2003, Mr. Lotsvin was a High-Yield and Distressed securities analyst at Franklin Templeton, where he was responsible for coverage of multiple sectors including financials, media and real estate. Mr. Lotsvin represented Franklin in numerous high profile bankruptcies and restructurings and served on several creditors' committees. Mr. Lotsvin began his career in public accounting with Arthur Andersen, LLP. Mr. Lotsvin is a Certified Public Accountant, a Chartered Financial Analyst and earned an MBA degree from Harvard Business School. 

Interesting Links

  1. Igor Lotsvin attempts to answer the question, "Time to Break Up the Banks?" in this Fortune article.
  2. Value Investor Insight interview: "The Short Case for JPMorgan (JPM)."

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David Nierenberg's Speech -- Live Blogging the Value Investing Congress

David Nierenberg David Nierenberg, founder of D3 Family of Funds, recently completed his speech at the Value Investing Congress. Here are our unedited notes from the presentation, entitled Not Dead Yet: Surviving Today to Triumph Tomorrow.

About Investment Risk:
  • Risk is not associated with volatility; risk is a chance of permanent capital loss. Risk is not a quotational loss.
  • Permanent loss can be caused by: leverage (D3 does not use leverage to magnify returns), redemptions when illiquid, counterparty risk, custodial risk, legal and regulatory risk, execution: investments, portfolio, cash and fraud.
Investment Idea: Move, Inc. (MOVE):
  • Leading online network of websites for residential real estate search, with the most comprehensive and up to date database of existing homes for sale on the web. Largest shareholder of the company.  Main asset is relator.com.
  • Serves three primary constituents: 1) Consumers, 8.1 million average users/month, 2) Real estate agents and brokers, 3) General advertisers.  Online ad penetration has not penetrated the real estate brokerage industry compared to other industries. D3 believes that this trend is not likely to last. Dollar advertising by US real estate agents in newspapers is down 71% over the past few years. Believes this represents a great opportunity for web based advertising and will benefit MOVE.  Revenues have remained stable from 2006-2009, the most visited website for real estate brokerage advertising.
  • Recent Changes: Company has closed underperforming businesses, took $20 million out of annualized operating costs, New CEO Steve Berkowitz named CEO in JAN 2009, currently searching for a new CEO.
  • D3 has a “punch list” for MOVE. 1) Continue to improve product and grow site traffic. 2) Hire new CFO, 3) Continue expense reduction, 4) Monetize ARS, 5) Establish relationship with “The Street, “ 6) Eliminate 100 mil shares to drive EPS, EPS growth and ROE. D3 just filed a 13D yesterday.
  • Bottom Line:  MOVE basically has no leverage, ~$1.00/share in net cash. Believes that 2013 EPS could grow to $.58/share. Thinks it could appreciate 5x based on a 17.5x to 20x multiple.

About D3 Family of Funds:

  • Long-term investors that invest in a concentrated portfolio of undervalued, domestic, micro-cap growth companies.
  • Average market cap ~300M, tries to establish 15%+ positions.
  • Believe in activism in some circumstances.

About David Nierenberg

David Nierenberg is the Founder of the D3 Family of Funds, which manages $350 million in four private investment partnerships. Mr. Nierenberg serves on the Washington State Investment Board, which manages $80 billion of public employee retirement funds. He is a graduate of Yale College and Yale Law School.

Interesting Links

  1. D3's investment philosophy 
  2. Motley Fool article, "Ugly Stocks, Great Opportunities"

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May 02, 2009

Top 5 Quotes From Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting

More than 30,000 shareholders attended the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting on Saturday, with chairman Warren Buffett and vice chairman Charlie Munger once again answering a wide array of shareholder questions. Here are our Top 5 quotes in three categories:

Top 5 Quotes By Warren Buffett

  1. On market timing: "We don’t try to pick bottoms. To sit around and not do something sensible because you think there might be something better…. doesn’t make sense. Picking bottoms is not our game. Pricing is our game. And that’s not so difficult. Picking bottoms is, I think, impossible."
  2. On keeping Berkshire as one entity: "We’ve got this ability in terms of moving money around into various opportunities without tax consequences. So if See’s Candies is a wonderful business, which it is and generates capital that can’t be used in that business - we can use it toward another business…"
  3. On Berkshire's credit rating: "We’re still a AAA in my mind and in Standard & Poor’s mind."
  4. On contracts: "We don’t want relationships that are based on contracts. I can’t really think of a formal contract that we have. We have understandings about bonus arrangements with various managers. We have different arrangements because all the businesses are different. We don’t try to hold people by contracts and it wouldn’t work. We basically don’t like engaging in them."
  5. On government action to save economy: "Overall I commend the actions that were taken. To expect perfection from people working 20 hour days and getting hit by new and sometimes bad information - when you’re getting punched from all sides - you’re not gonna do everything perfectly. I think overall they did a very good job…"

Top 5 Quotes By Charlie Munger

  1. On the future: "Now that I’m so close to the age of death - I am getting more cheerful about the economic future. What I find cheerful is that we will be able to harness the energy of the sun and have electric power. That will enable countries to turn sea water into fresh."
  2. On China: "Their rate of advance is so great and meaningful that if they lost a bit of their purchasing power on their dollar holdings - it’s a trifle for them. They’re going to be very hard to compete with  - all over the world. I think the U.S. and China should be very friendly nations. We’re going to be joined at the hip."
  3. On executive compensation: "I would argue that a liberally paid board of directors is counterproductive. You keep raising me and I keep raising you. It gets very club-like."
  4. On Berkshire's relationship with its operating unit leaders: "Our model is a seamless web of trust that’s deserved on both sides. That’s what we’re aiming for. The Hollywood model where everyone has a contract and no trust is deserved on either side is not what we want at all."
  5. On the credit ratings agencies: "I think the ratings agencies eagerly sought stupid assumptions that enabled them to do clever mathematics. It’s an example of being too smart for your own good."

Top 5 Quotes On Public Companies

  1. Buffett on General Electric (NYSE: GE): "GE is a very,very important American institution."
  2. Munger on Bank of America's (NYSE: BAC) purchase of Merrill Lynch: "You can criticize the decision of BAC to buy Merrill and the contract they signed. But once they had signed that contract - I think Treasury behaved honorably and so did Bank of America."
  3. Buffett on selling Johnson & Johnson (NYSE: JNJ) to buy into Goldman Sachs (NYSE: GS): "We got a call on Goldman on a Wednesday [in September 2008] - that couldn’t have been done the previous Wednesday or the next Wednesday. We were faced with opportunity-cost - and we sold something that under normal circumstances we wouldn’t - J&J."
  4. Buffett on dealing with investee companies, and on the business of Moody's (NYSE: MCO): "I don’t think I’ve ever made a call to Moody’s. We don’t tell Burlington Northern (NYSE: BNI) what safety procedures to put in or AmEx who they should lend to. When we own stock - we are not there to try and change people. If you buy stock in a company - better not count on fact that you’ll change their course of action.In terms of selling the stock [Moody's] - the ratings agency business is still good -but subject to attack. It’s a biz with very few people in it - it affects large segment of the economy. I think there will be ratings agencies in the future and doesn’t require capital. ..It has fundamentals of a pretty good business."
  5. Buffett on use of balance sheet analysis when valuing Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO): "If you look at Coca-Cola today, for example, and just looked at a balance sheet, it wouldn’t tell you anything at all about Coca-Cola,” the billionaire investor said. “It’s what the product is."

Note: The above quotes are sourced from notes and published sources believed to be reliable. However, some of the quotes may be paraphrased.

Disclosure: Affiliates of The Manual of Ideas have a long position in BRK.B. No positions in any other companies mentioned in this article.

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Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on Spinning Off Businesses

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Question: Have you given any thought to spinning off any companies?

Buffett: We will not be spinning off any companies. We’ve got a wonderful business. We want to continue it within Berkshire. We’ve got this ability in terms of moving money around into various opportunities without tax consequences. So if See’s Candies is a wonderful business, which it is and generates capital that can’t be used in that business - we can use it toward another business…. or to purchase something.  Our shareholders know when we buy, we are buying for keeps. It’s a basic principle of Berkshire.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Student Loan Business

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: Could you comment on the student loan business?

Buffett: I don’t know that much about it. Charlie?

Munger: I don’t know that much either.

Buffett: It’s been a long time since Charlie and I thought about getting a student loan. We were actually approached about a Sallie Mae deal - but it fell through.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Goldman, GE

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question on Goldman Sachs and General Electric investments

Buffett:  I felt good about those companies in terms of quality of businesses and management. It was the terms that caused us to make those deals. They were made when markets were in chaos and you should have got favorable terms for committing money and not many people were able to commit money on short-notice. It was a really extraordinary period. We were happy to do it. I feel good about the deals. But considering the circumstances under which the deals were made - I don’t think there was an alternative. I think we made very decent deals. Could we have done something better with the money at that time? I couldn’t find something better at the time. I know the CEOs of both companies very well. I think they’re terrific people, smart people and they’ve been straight with us before we made the deal with them.

Munger: There’s been a lot of criticizing of investment banking in this arena. But Berkshire has had marvelous services from its investment bankers.

Buffett: We’ve done a lot of business with Goldman Sachs over the past few years….. GE is a very,very important American institution.

 

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Future Living Standards

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: Are there underlying issues you see in the world economy? Like going off the gold standard? If the Berkshire business is great but underlying economy is the problem - where do we go from there?

Buffett: There’s always a lot of things wrong with the world. Unfortunately it’s the only world we’ve got. This system works very well. I know that over time people will live better and better in this country. We have a system that works. It unleashes human potential.  Right now we’re sputtering somewhat in terms of the economy - but there is no question in my mind that there is enormous human potential. The opportunities will win in the end. And your kids will live better than you live.

Munger: Now that I’m so close to the age of death - I am getting more cheerful about the economic future. What I find cheerful is that we will be able to harness the energy of the sun and have electric power. That will enable countries to turn sea water into fresh. What I see is a final breakthrough that solves the main technical problem of man. You can see it coming over the horizon and MidAmerican and BYD will be participating. Mistake to think about your probably misfortunes. Should think about what’s good about your situation. The technical problem is about to be fixed. If you have enough energy you can solve a lot of your other problems.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Setting CEO Pay

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: If a board of directors makes a mistake with compensation - then the board issues incentive bias toward earnings manipulation. Bearing in mind rule number 1 - don’t lose money and if it’s okay to have losses in short-term if loss is widens. How do you develop a fair compensation for a subsidiary that requires a lot of capital?

Buffett: We’ve thought a lot about this. In a capital intensive business you have to have a factor in a compensation arrangement that includes a capital -cost element. We have dozens and dozens of subsidiaries and we have different arrangements for different businesses because businesses that don’t require capital like See’s and Business Wire are different than businesses that requires lots of capital.

I think your question implies that the board sets these thing. But in my experience - basically the board is having relatively little effect on it. The CEO has managed to be an important determinant of his or her own compensation arrangement. I’ve been on one comp committee of 19 boards… CEOs appoint the comp committee - they don’t look for Dobermans, they look for Cocker Spaniels. In my experience boards have done very little in the way of really thinking through as a owner about “what is the proper way to pay these people and incentivize them not to do the wrong thing?”

Not every CEO wants a rational compensation system. It’s a real problem. I don’t think there should be a compensation committee. I think it’s very important how you compensate the CEO. I said in our annual report - choosing the right CEO, making sure they don’t overreach…

Munger: I would argue that a liberally paid board of directors is counterproductive. You keep raising me and I keep raising you. It gets very club-like. I think corporations of America would better married if directors weren’t paid at all.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Worst-Case Scenarios

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: What’s the worst-case scenario you could imagine with respect to your insurance business?

Munger: Very worst is losing several billions of dollars pre-tax. I think we have a marvelous insurance system. Warren?

Buffett: It is a fabulous business. If we had a $100B catastrophe - we would probably pay 3-4% of that. I think the worst situation that could occur is that we ran into so much inflation that people got very unhappy with anything they had to buy in their daily life - certainly like auto insurance - and if they expressed their outrage and said let’s nationalize the whole thing. That would be a huge asset that would disappear. I don’t know that that’s a high probability - but if you’re asking me to look at worst cases. Similar concerns for the utilities business.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on International Exposure

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Buffett: In terms of Berkshire earnings - we will just keep doing things that make sense. We own a lot of Coca-Cola, P&G… we have a lot of indirect sources of earnings outside the U.S. and a lot of direct. We want all of our subsidiaries to be looking all over the place. There are a lot of countries we feel comfortable with. We would be happy to put more money in those countries - but we don’t wake up in the morning saying we’d want to put more money in Germany or Spain for example.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on Hiring and Firing

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Question: When you acquire companies they come equipped with managers- Berkshire has done a great job putting the right leaders in the right roles. Occasionally you have to hire someone - what do you look for? How do you evaluate a person’s potential to be a great manager?

Buffett: We usually hire people who already are great managers.  The real question we have to ask is will they be with us in the future? We’ve made occasional mistakes - but we’ve had pretty good luck with managers. Since we have no retirement age - the toughest part is when managers lose the abilities they had at an earlier age. People age in very different ways and at different paces and Charlie and I have the problem of figuring out when somebody doesn’t have the same managerial abilities as they did at an earlier time. And we have to deal with it. And we hate it. We had a guy we both loved - he had Alzheimer’s and we didn’t want to face it. It’s the only part of my job I don’t like.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Current Bear Market versus 1973/74

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: Are you still buying? How would you rank the recent market downturn in terms of opportunities in stocks?

Buffett: Not as dramatic as the 1974 period was .  I’m gonna be buying investments the rest of my life. I would much rather pay half of x than x. On a personal basis - I like lower prices. I realize that’s not the way all of you feel. It just makes sense that when things are on sale you should be more excited about them. That’s when I believe in buying.

Munger: If stocks off 40% on average -they’re obviously closer to an attractive price than before. And interest rates have gone down a lot. But it’s nothing like 1973-74 - I knew we would never get another time like that. Unfortunately I had basically no money then. If I were you I wouldn’t wait for 1973-74.

Buffett: We don’t try to pick bottoms. To sit around and not do something sensible because you think there might be something better…. doesn’t make sense. Picking bottoms is not our game. Pricing is our game. And that’s not so difficult. Picking bottoms is, I think, impossible.  After I wrote NYTimes Op/Ed - things got cheaper and I bought some bonds for Berkshire and some things for myself.

Berkshire Weekend: Munger on Accountants

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire vice chairman:

Munger: a lot of new regulation coming wouldn’t have been needed if accounting wasn’t done better in banking. Yet - I haven’t met an accountant who has said I’m ashamed of my own profession. If they don’t have shame - it’s not right.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on BYD Investment

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question on Berkshire’s latest investment - BYD

Munger:…I know it looks like Warren and I have gone crazy - but I don’t think we have. The car you’re going to see - I think they make everything in that car except the glass and rubber. Whoever went into autos and made every part? This is not normal. This is very unusual and I regard it as a privilege to have Berkshire associated with a company that is trying to do so much that is so important for humanity. It may be a small company, but its ambitions are large. I will be amazed if great things don’t happen to here. I have never in my life felt more privileged to be associated with something than I feel about BYD.

Buffett:  BYD was Charlie’s last year - the Irish banks were mine. So - he’s a winner.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Inflation

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: What is your latest outlook on the dollar given what’s been thrown up in the air in the last 6 months?

Buffett:  It’s pretty unpredictable. I guarantee you the dollar will buy less 10-20 years from now. But we are doing things that will hurt the purchasing power of the dollar. On the other hand the same thing is happening in different countries around the world. The British will run a deficit of 12 and a fraction percent of GDP. Even the Germans will run a deficit of 6 and a fraction GDP. You’ve got governments around the world all electing to run very material deficits. Electing to do that to offset the contraction demand. How that plays out in relative exchange rates - I can’t tell you. In terms of currency’s purchasing power in the future - it’s going to cause units of currency to buy a lot less.That isn’t gonna happen in the next year or two. Doesn’t mean markets won’t start anticipating it at some point. We are doing things that we haven’t seen in the past. And policy makers do not know the outcome and I don’t know the outcome. You do know it will have consequences and you can bet on inflation.

Munger: I remember the 2 cent first-class stamp and the 5 cent hamburger.  In my life I think I’ve had the most privileged era to live. The trick is to avoid runaway inflation.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on Losing AAA Rating

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Question: How would you quantify the impact and damage of Berkshire losing its AAA credit rating? What are you doing actively to restore its AAA rating?

Buffett: It won’t regain it soon - I don’t think ratings agencies would turn around like that. Moody’s affirmed the rating in January. In terms of our credit default swaps which is a metric you can use for credit acceptance. That spread came down actually. It makes very little difference in our borrowing cost. And it never has. AA versus AAA - the spread has been very small. It doesn’t have any material effect on borrowing cost. It does cause us to lose some bragging rights around the world. Although nobody ranks ahead of us. It will not change back in a hurry. People don’t make decisions in committees that they reverse very quickly. We’re still a AAA in my mind and in Standard & Poor’s mind.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on MidAmerican and Wind Power

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Question:  When will we see return on investment on MidAmerican Energy’s wind farms?

Buffett: We’re the largest in terms of wind capacity of any utility. But the wind only blows about 35% of the time in Iowa… so you can’t count on it for your baseload. But Iowa has been very receptive and progressive in encouraging us to bring them a lot of wind capacity. We are a net exporter of electricity. We have not increased our rates at all for more than a decade. That’s been achieved by efficiencies and wind generation. Part of that return comes in the form of a tax credit - that’s given to anyone in the U.S. that develops wind power generation. We’re doing it at Pacific Corp. I think we’ll continue to be a leader. One advantage we have over some people is that we’re a big taxpayer so we don’t have to worry if the tax credits are usual. You’ll see more and more wind generation by the MidAmerican companies. Constellation didn’t work out…I wish it had.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on BofA/Merrill Deal

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: The Bank of America and Merrill Lynch deal has been in the news lately because of lack of disclosure. Who should be authorized to make a decision not to disclose information to public? If Berkshire Hathaway was pressured - how would you respond?

Buffett: I’d be terribly interested to hear Charlie’s answer on that. If you learn from a confidential source that there’s going to be a nuclear terrorist attack - do you go to the government. If you’re a priest and someone says they’re going to murder their wife - this is that kind of question. I ask if I were in Bernanke or Paulson’s position if I would have done anything differently. If BAC had backed out of Merrill it might well have set bad things in motion. We saw what happened with Lehman. I can see why Paulson and Bernanke would want to put a lot of pressure on the guy. And…. I’m gonna ask Charlie what he would do.

Munger: You can criticize the decision of BAC to buy Merrill and the contract they signed. But once they had signed that contract - I think Treasury behaved honorably and so did Bank of America.

Buffett: I’m sure they hope you’ll be on the jury!

Berkshire Weekend: Munger on Berkshire's Future

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire vice chairman:

Munger: Best days of Berkshire are ahead. This company will make a big contribution to its surrounding civilization.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on China

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: Will you be looking to do more business in China?

Buffett: China is a huge market. There will perhaps be opportunities to buy more businesses there. We would have bought more than 10% of BYD if we could have - but that’s all they wished to sell us. Chinese dollar assets are going to build as long as there is a significant trade surplus with China.

Munger: I think China has one of the most successful economic policies in the world. Has advanced more rapidly than the rest of the world. Their rate of advance is so great and meaningful that if they lost a bit of their purchasing power on their dollar holdings - it’s a trifle for them. They’re going to be very hard to compete with  - all over the world. I think the U.S. and China should be very friendly nations. We’re going to be joined at the hip.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Contracts versus Understandings

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Buffett: We don’t want relationships that are based on contracts. I can’t really think of a formal contract that we have. We have understandings about bonus arrangements with various managers. We have different arrangements because all the businesses are different. We don’t try to hold people by contracts and it wouldn’t work. We basically don’t like engaging in them.

Munger: Our model is a seamless web of trust that’s deserved on both sides. That’s what we’re aiming for. The Hollywood model where everyone has a contract and no trust is deserved on either side is not what we want at all.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on Selling JNJ to Buy GS

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Question: You’ve talked a lot about opportunity-costs. Can you discuss more important decisions over the past year?

Buffett: When both prices are moving and in certain cases intrinsic business value moving at a pace that’s far greater than we’ve seen - it’s tougher, more interesting and more challenging and can be more profitable. But, it’s a different task than when things were moving at more leisurely pace. We faced that problem in September and October. We want to always keep a lot of money around. We have so many extra levels of safety we follow at Berkshire.

We got a call on Goldman on a Wednesday - that couldn’t have been done the previous Wednesday or the next Wednesday. We were faced with opportunity-cost - and we sold something that under normal circumstances we wouldn’t - J&J.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on Treasury Bill Anomaly

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Buffett: Want to show you a ticket - $5 million Treasury bills on Dec. 19th to come due April 29th of this year. (puts ticket on big screens for us all to see) We sold them for 5 million and 90 dollars and 7 cents. If the person instead put their money under the mattress - they would have been 90 dollars better off. Negative yields on U.S. Treasury bills are an extraordinary thing - not sure you’ll see it again in your lifetime.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on Berkshire's Use of Derivatives

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Question: You have referred to derivatives as financial weapons of mass destruction. In the 1964 movie Dr. Strangelove - King Kong rides a weapon of mass destruction out of the bombay of his B-52 - as a long-term BRK shareholder - I feel like him today…..do you think large derivative positions are appropriate for a highly-rated insurance company? Will you add to these positions?

Buffett: Our job is to make money over time. We have arranged them so we have minimal exposure to bigger dangers in derivative field. We posted collateral of less than 1% of total marketable securities. They pose problems to the world generally - that’s why I referred to them that way on the macro basis. But I also said we refer to them regularly .

Good odds that on equity put options - we’ll make money. On high yield index - will probably lose money.We’ve run into far more bankruptcies in the last year than before. We’ve been in a bit of a financial hurricane. We are more than an insurance company though. We’re ideally suited to hold this sort of instrument.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Financial Literacy

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: What do you think future generations should know? What should be in curriculum to teach children about financial literacy?

Buffett: There’s a problem with financial literacy in the current generation. A number of outlets putting together programs to help with that. In the end - I think we make progress over time. I recommend you work with your students to make them literate. They will have a terrific advantage.

Munger: A world where legalized gambling is conducted in any state in the form of lotteries, where people are encouraged to bet against the odds, too much credit card debt. Needs a lot more financial literacy. I would argue we’ve been going in the wrong direction.

Buffett: Probably good for our business - looking for things that are mispriced.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on TARP, Wells Fargo

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: Wells Fargo Chairman said he didn’t want to take TARP and said some of gov’t programs were asinine - Munger - do you agree? Buffett - do you agree with Munger?

Munger: Gov’t reacting to biggest financial crisis in 70 yrs. decisions are being made in a hurry and under pressure. Unreasonable to expect perfect agreement with all of one’s own ideas. I think the gov’t is entitled to be judged more leniently when it’s doing the best it can. Of course there’s gonna be some reactions that are foolish. I happen to share one of the troubles as the WFC exec in that I’m pretty blunt. The accounting principle that says your earnings go up as credit is destroyed - I happen to think that’s insane accounting. And the people that voted it into the effect ought to be removed from the accounting board.

Buffett: The gov’t really were facing a situation close to a total meltdown in September. Commercial paper market froze up which would mean trouble meeting payrolls. We really were looking into the abyss at that time. Overall I commend the actions that were taken. To expect perfection from people working 20 hour days and getting hit by new and sometimes bad information - when you’re getting punched from all sides - you’re not gonna do everything perfectly. I think overall they did a very good job….. All banks aren’t alike by a long shot. In our opinion Wells Fargo is a fabulous bank and has advantages that others don’t have. I would recommend all of you that you go to the internet and read Jamie Dimon’s letter to shareholders. (JPMorgan Chairman & CEO) Jamie did a great job writing about what caused it and what could be done in the future. Look it up - it’s long - but worth reading.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Credit Ratings

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: Given the role of ratings agencies in the economic crisis - why do you retain such a large holding in Moody’s? And why didn’t you use your stake to do something to prevent conflicts of interest and these flawed models?

Buffett: Five years ago - virtually everybody in the country had this model in their mind - formal or otherwise that house prices couldn’t fall. They were wrong. Bankers were wrong. Borrowers were wrong. Lenders were wrong. People who lent money said it didn’t matter if borrowers lied on applications. There was almost a total belief throughout the country that house prices certainly wouldn’t fall significantly and would probably keep rising. And the ratings agencies built that into their system. I don’t think it was the payment system that created the problem. I just think they didn’t understand what could happen in a bubble where people leveraged up enormously. They made a major mistake analyzing instruments - but a great many people made that mistake. If they took a different view of residential mortgages -t hey would have been answering to Congressional committees who’d be asking - why are you being so unamerican? Congress presided over 2 largest mortgage companies -and they’re in conservatorship [Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac].

I don’t think I’ve ever made a call to Moody’s. We don’t tell Burlington Northern what safety procedures to put in or AmEx who they should lend to. When we own stock - we are not there to try and change people. If you buy stock in a company - better not count on fact that you’ll change their course of action.

In terms of selling the stock - the ratings agency business is still good -but subject to attack. It’s a biz with very few people in it - it affects large segment of the economy. I think there will be ratings agencies in the future and doesn’t require capital. ..It has fundamentals of a pretty good business.

Charlie and I don’t pay attention to ratings.  We don’t think Moody’s or S&P should be telling us the rating of a company.

Munger: I think the ratings agencies eagerly sought stupid assumptions that enabled them to do clever mathematics. It’s an example of being too smart for your own good.

Buffett: I think it was stupidity and the fact that everyone else was doing it. The one reason you can’t give at Berkshire is because “everybody else is doing it.” But it happens in security markets all the time. It’s difficult to tell a big organization you shouldn’t do something that big competitors are doing and making money.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Residential Real Estate

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: Where do you see the residential real estate market heading? Particularly in California?

Buffett: It’s hard to tell - from what I’m seeing.  I think you’ve seen something in medium to lower priced houses - maybe $750k and under houses - you’ve seen more bidders, a pickup in activity. You haven’t seen much improvement in price. What it looks like - looking at our real estate brokerage data. We see something close to stability at these much reduced prices in the medium to lower priced homes. Interest rates are down - so it’s much easier to make the payments. Mortgages being put on books every day in California are a better mix than previously.

Housing situation is this way - we create about a 1.3M households a year - but in a recession it tends to be fewer. If you create 2M housing starts annually too - you run into trouble. We created more housing than demand. We created an excess. How much? Perhaps 1.5M.  We’re now down to 500K units a year. We’re now eating up excess inventory. It’s going to take a couple years. You could blow up 1.5M houses…. or you could try and create more households…. OR you can produce less than the natural demand increase. That’s what we’re doing now. You can’t do it today or in a week - but when it gets done you’ll have stabilization and create the demand for more.

Munger: With interest rates so low - if I were a young person with good credit that wanted a house in Omaha - I would buy it tomorrow.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on How Successor Candidates Did in 2008

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Question: About 4 investment managers as successors - Can you please tell us without naming names how each of the 4 investment managers in 2008 did with money they’re managing for their clients? Are they still on the list?

Buffett: Let me just clear some things up - we have 3 candidates for the CEO position. All are internal candidates.  There are 4 possibilities for the investment job. We might have multiple investment managers after I’m not around. Won’t have more than one CEO. Investment managers are both in and outside Berkshire. Person who follows me as CEO will come from Berkshire Hathaway. The four investment managers did better than S&P. In terms of 2008 by itself - you would not say they covered themselves with glory - but neither did I - so I’m tolerant of that.

If I drop dead tonight - the board will need to put someone in as CEO and they know who that is and can feel good about it - not too good I hope. (Laughter)

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on His Successor

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Question: Running Berkshire is very complex and complicated - give us some insight for your reluctance to bring in your successor to benefit from your training?

Buffett: The candidates we have for CEO are running businesses, doing things every day of an operating nature. And to sit around headquarters while I’m reading and on the phone and who knows what else- there wouldn’t be anything to do. We could meet every hour - but it would be a waste of talent and it would be ridiculous.  I’d throw him the WSJ after I’m done reading it. These are people who are ready for the job right now - 100%. They know how to allocate capital. They will have to develop relationships with the shareholders, and other managers - but they know how to run businesses. They would do many things better than I would.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Berkshire's Two Components of Value

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: What is your view of the market’s valuation of Berkshire’s shares? You say Berkshire has 2 components of values - the stocks and bonds…. and the earnings. When you compare 2007 to 2008 - the investments were down about 13% and the earnings were down about 4% - but the value the market was placing on your shares was down 31%

Buffett: We think investments are worth what they’re carried for or we wouldn’t own them. We have no problem with that number. We think the earning power of most businesses was not as good last year as normal. It won’t be as good this year as normal. A few of them have got problems. But most of them will do well and a few will do sensationally. I think it’s reasonable to look at Berkshire as the sum of 2 parts - fairly priced or undervalued securities… and a lot of earning power which we are going to try and increase.

Berkshire was cheaper in relation to intrinsic value in 2008 compared to 2007. Over time, we would hope that both increase - particularly the operating earnings aspect.

Munger: I would argue that last year was a bad year for a float business. But long-term having a large float which you’re getting at a cost of less than zero is going to be a big advantage.  If you think it’s easy to get in the kind of position that Berkshire occupies - you are living in a different world.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Stock Price versus Business Value

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: Berkshire seems to have done quite well in past few years - but the stock price hasn’t quite kept pace… will Berkshire pay a dividend in the coming year or not?

Buffett: If you take all the money we earned in the last 5 years and the stocks, bonds, businesses purchased and you sold them for cash on Dec. 31, 2008- we would have had a loss based on the conditions at that time. There was no market to speak of for many businesses at that time.  We measure our business performance against the S&P. We’ve never had a 5-year period where we’ve underperformed the S&P.

Munger: I don’t get excited about things that happen once every 50 years. If you’re reasonably prepared for them…. other people are suffering a lot more. I don’t think we deserve any salt fears. Take Wells Fargo - I think it will come out of this mess way stronger. The fact that the stock at the bottom tick scared a lot of people.

Buffett:  Why would anybody sell Wells Fargo at $9/share when they bought it at $25? People with stocks let a price tell them how they should feel about the company instead of looking at the business.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Government Stimulus

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: On the stimulus bill and government funding - Isn’t it better if money from government went to hard assets and putting people to work?

Munger: Let me answer that one - yes.

Buffett: In the 1930’s a lot of wonderful things were done with money used to stimulate the economy. That should be the goal and the model. I did get a notice from Social Security telling me I was getting $250 more.  I think the intent is to get the money into action quickly and have it utilized in intelligent ways. If the day after Pearl Harbor happened - if you attached earmarks to the declaration of war - wouldn’t have been pretty. System now doesn’t seem to be very effective…. takes legislators away from common goal. The intent of administration is the right thing. When the American public pulls back like they have -the government does need to step in.  We’re doing the conventional things - but in unconventional amounts.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Derivatives

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: What do you think Ben Graham would have said about derivatives?

Buffett: Probably what I said in 2002. Place added strains on fragile economic system. But if they were mispriced - he would act accordingly. In 1929 - Congress decided it was dangerous to let people borrow money against securities - said Fed should regulate how much people could borrow. And the Federal Reserve enacted margin requirements- they still exist. Shouldn’t be able to borrow more than 50% against your securities. But derivatives came along and made those rules a laughing stock. So derivatives became a way around regulation and leverage. Derivatives also meant that settlement dates got pushed out. They allow long settlement periods where security markets demand them in 3 days - there’s a reason. If you extend periods - there are more and more defaults. Ben Graham wouldn’t like a system that had used derivatives heavily - but would have been willing to buy one that was mispriced.

Munger:  I think there’s been a deeper problem in derivatives business. Derivative dealer is playing in same game with his clients with the advantage of being better and knowing what clients are doing. This is basically a dirty business. You’re really selling things to your clients who trust you that are bad for your clients.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Berkshire's Unique Business Model

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: Berkshire doesn’t have simple, easy to grasp business model. If the 2 of you were outside investors - would you still invest in Berkshire today?

Buffett: We have a business that’s owned by people. We have a different shareholder base. We have people that understand their business differently. I don’t see anybody else in the U.S. that could adopt that model. It is a deeply embedded culture which any CEOs that follow will be well-versed in when they come into the job. I think if anyone wanted to copy Berkshire they would have a very hard time.

Munger: A lot of corporations in America are run stupidly from headquarters. Warren and Charlie will still be gone - not too soon in my case - but I’m a little worried about Warren. The stupidity of management practice and the rest of the corporate world will remain ample enough to give this company a competitive advantage into the future.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Investing Shareholder Money Like Their Own

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Buffett: I frequently ask CEOs of companies what they would do differently if they owned the whole thing themselves. They give me a list of things. There is no list at Berkshire. We basically run this place the same way we’d run it if we owned 100%.

Munger: Berkshire Hathaway’s system has legs.

 

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett, Munger on Inflation and Government Bonds

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: I’m 11 years old. How will inflation affect my generation? How is Berkshire investing to prepare for this time?

Buffett: It’s certain we’ll have inflation over time. We are following policies in this country now to stimulate business - which are bound to have some inflationary consequences. We’re building up a lot of external debt. Politicians talk about taxpayers paying for this and that - but we haven’t raised taxes. We’re actually taking less from taxpayers. People who are really paying are people buying fixed dollar investments from the government. So it’s probably the Chinese that are paying the most in terms of the loss of purchasing power they’ll have with government bonds. It sounds better to say the taxpayer than the Chinese are paying for it. The ultimate price of much of this will be the shrinking of value of fixed dollar investments down the road.

The best protection against inflation is your own earning power. If you’re the best at what you do you will command a given part of others goods and services no matter what the earning power. You will get your share of the national economic pie regardless of the value of the currency as measured in an earlier standard.

Second-best protection is a wonderful business.

Munger: The young man should become a brain surgeon and invest in Coca-Cola instead of government bonds.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on Investing in Newspapers

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman and vice chairman:

Question: At what price does it become compelling to invest in newspaper business or is there no price in today’s environment?

Buffett: The current environment is accentuating problem in newspapers -but it’s not the basic cause. Charlie and I read 5 a day. We’ll never give them up. We would not buy them at any price. They have the possibility of going to unending losses. They were essential to the public 20 years ago. Their pricing power was essential with customer. They lost the essential nature. The erosion has accelerated dramatically. They were only essential to advertiser as long as essential to reader. No one liked buying ads in the paper - it’s just that they worked. I don’t see anything on the horizon that causes that erosion to end.

Munger: It’s really a national tragedy. As they disappear - I think what replaces them won’t be as desirable as what we’re losing.

 

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on Rebound in Retail and Service Industries

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Buffett: High-end retail has been hit hard. Big change in consumer behavior and I think it will last longer. I don’t think the experience of the last couple years will go away fast. I wouldn’t think our retail businesses will do great for a considerable period of time. In retail real estate - I would think that would be a tough field to be in. I think shopping centers will see vacancies that are hard to fill.  Shopping center business which was selling at premier rates - I think will look very silly before all of this is done. In fact - it’s already looking that now. The service businesses are generally the better businesses that require less capital. But I wouldn’t look for any quick rebound in retail manufacturing and service businesses. South Florida I think will be a problem for a long, long time.

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett on Stock Repurchases

Liz Claman of Fox Business Channel quotes or paraphrases the Berkshire chairman:

Buffett: I think 90% of the repurchase actitivity I’ve seen in last 5 yrs didn’t benefit shareholders - I think it’s because management thought it was right thing to do and investor relations said to do it.  We will never buy our stock at a silly price. A significant % of corporate America has done that over the years.

Berkshire Weekend: Mario Gabelli Likes Auto Parts Companies

Berkshire Weekend: What It's Like To Be Buffett's Broker (video)

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett Quote on Evaluating Banks

Bloomberg quotes Buffett on how he evaluates banks versus how regulators look at banks:

“With banking, low cost money is the key,” Buffett said. “My guess is that would not be weighted like a whole bunch of little ratios of this or that.”

“If you are producing your money currently at roughly 1 percent, which the best of them is, and somebody else is producing it at 2 percent, that’s exactly like a copper mine that has a $1 a pound cost versus a $2 a pound cost,” Buffett said. “That’s hugely important over time.” 

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett Quote on Coca-Cola

Bloomberg quotes Buffett on the importance of balance sheet analysis when valuing an "earnings machine" like Coca-Cola:

“If you look at Coca-Cola today, for example, and just looked at a balance sheet, it wouldn’t tell you anything at all about Coca-Cola,” the billionaire investor said. “It’s what the product is.”

Berkshire Weekend: Buffett Quote on Bank Stress Tests

Bloomberg quotes Buffett on the importance of the government’s stress tests in helping him assess banks he invested in:

"I think I know their future, frankly, better than somebody that comes in to take a look," Buffett said before the start of Omaha, Nebraska-based Berkshire's annual shareholder meeting today. "They may be using more of a checklist type approach."

One on One with Charlie Munger

The Nightly Business Report ran the following segment yesterday:

SUZANNE PRATT: Warren Buffett says he wants tough questions from shareholders at Berkshire Hathaway's annual meeting tomorrow. Investors will certainly ask about the company's stock. It has tumbled more than 30 percent in the past year. Also answering questions, Charlie Munger, Buffett's business partner for half a century and Berkshire's vice chairman. Munger keeps a low profile, but today in Omaha, he sat down for an interview with Susie Gharib. She began by asking him what he'll say to shareholders tomorrow to restore confidence in Berkshire.

CHARLES MUNGER, VICE CHAIRMAN, BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY: I think the reality is that if you hold a stock for a long long term even though it's screamingly successful as an investment, you will have huge declines in the value of that stock two or three times in half a century. And I don't think that should bother long term holders all that much.

GHARIB: Mr. Munger, shareholders will certainly have questions tomorrow on why Berkshire took such large positions in derivatives especially since you and Mr. Buffett have warned for years that derivatives are dangerous investments. What are you going to tell them?

MUNGER: We think the bets we made were intelligent bets. That's why we took the positions. It's just that simple. We also think that the system which allowed derivative bets to be so widely available was bad public policy. There's nothing inconsistent in those two actions.

GHARIB: We hear more and more people saying that the economy's improving, that the worst is over. From what you're seeing at Berkshire, what kind of shape is the economy in?

MUNGER: Well of course there are glimmers of hope and of course not all the news is bad. But averaged out it's deadly serious and the threats and problems are far from over. We have a very unpleasant stretch to go through at best.

GHARIB: When do you see the recovery coming?

MUNGER: We don't have any special ability to make that kind of macro economic prediction.

GHARIB: How are Berkshire's businesses doing so far this year?

MUNGER: Mixed. But the two biggest businesses, which are insurance and utilities, are flourishing. So I would say that even with all of the bad effects we've had, we're not catching our full share of the horror.

GHARIB: You delayed the release of Berkshire's quarterly results and some people are speculating that maybe things aren't going so well for Berkshire. What's your response to that?

MUNGER: I guarantee you that Berkshire is not delaying reporting based on whether things are going well or ill. There are delays because there are glitches of getting the job done right as fast as they would like to have it done.

GHARIB: So what's your business strategy for 2009? Are you running Berkshire differently to deal with this economic downturn?

MUNGER: Our fundamental way of operating we're not changing. Are we a little more cautious based on the extreme disruptive effects that are conceivable, I think the answer is yes.

GHARIB: How are you being more cautious?

MUNGER: We're a little less willing to borrow and a little less willing to spend. And that is happening all over America.

GHARIB: Some of Berkshire's investments are in financial stocks like American Express and Wells Fargo. Does it make sense to continue to hold on to these stocks? What's your outlook for the financials?

MUNGER: Well, I think the companies which we are invested have very respectable futures from this point forward. The financial world should be restructured so that these people who are too big to fail are not allowed to behave in such a gamey fashion. I'm pessimistic with the regulatory changes that come down. I'm afraid they won't be as severe as we need.

GHARIB: As an investment, investors should stay away from financials for now?

MUNGER: I didn't say that. We need the financials. We can't have a modern civilization without strong financial companies. But we don't need them as swashbuckling and as crazy and as venal as they've been.

GHARIB: This has certainly been an unusual time. What have you learned about Warren Buffett and how he handled this financial crisis that you didn't know after working with him for 50 years?

MUNGER: I don't think Warren Buffett has changed at all in terms of the way he handles this sort of thing. He handled it well 35 years ago and he's handling it well now.

GHARIB: Now I understand there are three candidates who are being considered to take over from Warren Buffett when the time comes. I know you're not going to tell me who they are. But what do you think is the most important characteristic for this job?

MUNGER: I don't think there's any one way that's the right way to run a corporation. Different people have different styles. Different people have different strengths. I am quite confident that Berkshire will be governed very well long after Warren and I are gone.

GHARIB: Mr. Munger, it's been a pleasure talking to you. Thank you so much for your time.

MUNGER: You bet.

PRATT: On Monday, we hear from the Oracle of Omaha. Susie brings us her interview with Warren Buffett and gets his outlook for Berkshire and the economy.

May 01, 2009

Seth Klarman Speech, March 17, 2009 (video)

Famed value investor Seth Klarman of The Baupost Group recently spoke via videoconference to the Ben Graham Center for Value Investing at the Richard Ivey School of Business. Download or view the speech.

In the videoconference, Klarman mentions several bargain investments Baupost has made. He names a pair of investments: PDL BioPharma (Nasdaq: PDLI) and Facet Biotech (Nasdaq: FACT). PDLI and FACT were separated in a spinoff, creating value because the market was penalizing the combined company for the losses of its drug-discovery arm (Facet), while the other part of the business has been receiving high-margin royalty payments (PDL). Both entities still appear to be undervalued.

About Seth Klarman (from bengrahaminvesting.ca)

Mr. Klarman is President of The Baupost Group, L.L.C. Founded in 1982, Baupost discretionarily manages $15 billion for a number of institutional and wealthy individual investors. Baupost uses a value discipline with an event-driven bias to find global opportunities in such diverse areas as publicly-traded and private equities, bankrupt and financially-distressed debt, and real estate. Seth has managed Baupost’s investments from inception. Baupost’s largest partnership vehicle has achieved net annual return to investors of just over 20% and has experienced only one money-losing year since it was formed in 1983. Seth is a 1982 MBA graduate of Harvard Business School, where he was a Baker Scholar. He received his Bachelor of Arts, magna cum laude, in Economics from Cornell University in 1979. In 1991, he wrote a now out of print book entitled ''Margin of Safety: Risk-Averse Value Investing Strategies for the Thoughtful Investor'', which sells for $1,200 on Amazon and $2,000 on eBay and has been stolen from most libraries. Seth is also a world-class worrier.  In one letter, Mr. Klarman said, ''At Baupost,  we are big fans of fear, and in investing, it is clearly better to be scared than sorry.'' In an earlier note, he wrote, ''Rather than ratchet up risk, our approach has been to hold cash in the absence of opportunity.''  Seth serves on several not-for-profit boards and lives in Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts with his wife and three children.

Disclosure: No positions.

April 30, 2009

FT Special on Warren Buffett

The Financial Times has published a special report on Warren Buffett, provided by Alice Schroeder. Download the full report.

Is Buffett a "Buy and Hold" Investor?

By Zain Griffith, Research Associate, The Manual of Ideas

Betty Lui of Bloomberg recently conducted an interview with Mohnish Pabrai and Jean-Marie Eveillard, two well respected value-oriented investment managers. Lui questioned whether the "buy and hold" investment strategy was still worth pursuing. Specifically, Lui asks, "Have there been times when Warren Buffett should have sold out or done shorter-term strategies in order to maximize returns?"

coke

Pabrai responds by saying that it is a common misnomer that Buffett is a "buy and hold" investor. If one were to study Buffett's investment history over the past 50-55 years, there are very few stocks he has held for many years. Pabrai states that the reason why Buffett appears to "buy and hold" investments is due to Berkshire's large capital base. He states that investors with smaller amounts of capital might be better served by following Buffett's early strategy of buying "forty to fifty-cent dollars" and selling those assets once they reach fair value. He also warns that comparing value investing to "buy and hold" is like comparing apples to oranges.

Jean-Marie Eveillard disagrees with Pabrai's assessment. He states that the reason Buffett moved to "buy and hold" was "not due to the size of AUM, but rather because he moved from a Benjamin Graham-type approach early in his career, to his own approach" of buying good businesses for the long term.

So, is Buffett really a "buy and hold" investor? I would postulate that this question depends on the type of company in Berkshire's portfolio. Investments made in Coca-Cola (Nasdaq: KO), Moody's (NYSE:MCO) and The Washington Post (NYSE: WPO) were initially made because Buffett thought each company would be worth much more in 20 to 30 years than it was worth at the time of purchase. These positions now represent large core holdings of Berkshire Hathaway. It might be costly to dispose of these investments in most market environments.

I think it would serve us well to look at Berkshire Hathaway's recent past and some of Buffett's commentary in a couple of his annual shareholder letters to get an idea of how he views investments.

On page 20 of Buffett's 2003 Annual Letter to shareholders, he writes, "...I made a big mistake in not selling several of our larger holdings during The Great Bubble. If these stocks are fully priced now, you may wonder what I was thinking four years ago when their intrinsic value was lower and their prices far higher. So do I."

petrochina

In his 2007 Annual Letter, Buffett comments on selling PetroChina (NYSE: PTR), "We made one large sale last year. In 2002 and 2003 Berkshire bought 1.3% of PetroChina for $488 million, a price that valued the entire business at about $37 billion. Charlie and I then felt that the company was worth about $100 billion. By 2007, two factors had materially increased its value: the price of oil had climbed significantly, and PetroChina’s management had done a great job in building oil and gas reserves. In the second half of last year, the market value of the company rose to $275 billion, about what we thought it was worth compared to other giant oil companies. So we sold our holdings for $4 billion. A footnote: We paid the IRS tax of $1.2 billion on our PetroChina gain. This sum paid all costs of the U.S. government – defense, social security, you name it – for about four hours."

As can be witnessed by the PetroChina investment, Buffett fundamentally believes in purchasing assets that are undervalued and selling them when they exceed fair value. Therefore, Buffett should probably not be typecast as a "buy and hold" investor. He is an amazing capital allocator who purchases undervalued assets he hopes to sell when prices reflect fair value.

Disclosure: Long BRK-B, no other positions.

April 29, 2009

Getting Ready For Berkshire's Annual Meeting: Mohnish Pabrai, Jean-Marie Eveillard, David Sokol, Bill Gates, Byron Trott, Tom Russo (Bloomberg Videos)

Mohnish Pabrai, Jean-Marie Eveillard, David Sokol, Bill Gates, Byron Trott and Tom Russo talk about Warren Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway ahead of the upcoming Annual Meeting.

April 28, 2009

Ori Eyal's Letters to Investors

By John Mihaljevic, CFA, Managing Editor of The Manual of Ideas

I met Ori Eyal a few years ago at a dinner hosted by Shai Dardashti in New York City. Ori worked for a large bank at the time but immediately struck me as someone who would sooner or later have his own investment firm. His independent way of thinking was much more in line with that of someone managing a fund than working for a large institution.

Ori recently launched a private investment firm, Emerging Value Capital Management. I believe those investing in such vehicles should read Ori's letters to investors closely. His approach is heavily influenced by the teachings of Warren Buffett, yet he applies it with a unique focus.

Read Ori's letters to investors:

April 22, 2009

Buffett on Evaluating People: Reference Checks vs. Behavior

By Nadav Manham

Warren Buffett may be the most well-connected businessman around.  In the past, some have argued that it's this quality that enables his great success, even more than his own intelligence and judgement.  His investment results are better, this rather sinister argument goes, because his information is better.

From the same Fortune interview, here's Buffett on how he evaluates John Stumpf, CEO of Wells Fargo:

Well, John [Stumpf] is in charge. Dick is a terrific help to John. I play bridge with John on the Internet. He plays under the name of HTUR. His wife's name is Ruth. My bridge partner, who I probably play bridge with four times a week, developed online banking for Wells. A woman named Sharon Osberg. And she's worked with those people. And she told me about John Stumpf ten years ago. I've had some insight through her on these people. But the real insight you get about a banker is how they bank. You've got to see what they do and what they don't do. Their speeches don't make any difference. It's what they do and what they don't do. And what Wells didn't do is what defines their greatness [my emphasis].

I apply this logic to the world of money manager selection.  Manager selectors spend a lot of time on reference checks, talking to people they know who also know the manager they're trying to evaluate, just as Buffett talked to Sharon Osberg about John Stumpf.  Manager selectors, myself especially, also spend a lot of time evaluating investors communications: their investor letters, speeches, interviews, etc.

All of these things are important, especially in a world like mine in which the lack of information about people is the singular feature.  But it's important to realize that in the final analysis, reference checks and manager communications matter less than direct observation and interpretation of a money manager's behavior.  The real insight you get about an investor is how they invest.

The author of this post is Nadav Manham, president of Elera Advisors LLC, an investment advisory company focused on value-oriented manager selection. Mr. Manham is also editor of The Investor's Consigliere. 

Disclosure: Long Berkshire Hathaway.

April 20, 2009

Irving Kahn, Walter Schloss and Seth Glickenhaus Offer Their Unique Perspective

Noted investors Irving Kahn, Walter Schloss and Seth Glickenhaus have managed money since the Great Depression. They recently shared their perspective on today's markets in the Wall Street Journal. Reshma Kapadia starts off by taking us into the office of centenarian Kahn:

Irving Kahn sits at his cluttered desk, peering at his computer screen through thick, dark glasses. The Dow inched up 38 points today, a small move in light of its 332-point drop earlier in the week. But Kahn has made a career of betting on beaten-down stocks, and he's hard at work poring over annual reports and studying balance sheets looking for companies that have lots of cash, not much debt and good long-term growth prospects. General Electric has a solid business and looks pretty good at these prices, he muses. General Motors? Not so much.

Like a lot of us, Kahn has seen good times and bad, bull markets and bear markets, recessions and recoveries. But he's also seen something most of us haven't: the Great Depression. Kahn, who still shows up at work every day and puts in a good six hours, worked as a stock analyst and brokerage clerk on Wall Street in the 1930s. He's 103 years old.

That's right — 103. As pundits half their age dominate the airwaves with prognostications on whether the next Great Depression is just around the corner, a small group of overlooked folks who not just lived through it but worked through it — on Wall Street — are still here. What's more, they're still at it, running their own sizable portfolios and, in a few cases, managing money for clients. Despite innumerable bull and bear markets, 17 presidents, and countless economic policies, they've remained remarkably true to their investing philosophy. They've also remained remarkably true to their methods: Forget BlackBerrys; most of them hardly touch their desktop computers. And you won't find CNBC blaring in their offices throughout the day; that's more noise than news to these gentlemen. Instead, you'll find stacks of reading material (these guys actually read a firm's annual report before investing) and a lot of old-fashioned...what do you call it? Oh, right. Math.

This cohort has perspective most of us lack: They know what the Depression looked like and how it felt. They saw bread lines on the street and despair in the faces of friends and strangers. Some lost money in the stock market, while others made enough to make it through the Depression rather comfortably. A few began their 80-year careers working for a legendary investor whose investing principles are still taught in business schools. And their take on today's markets might surprise you.

Read the full article.

April 16, 2009

Jack Bogle's Investment Advice

BusinessWeek shares some of the sage retirement investing advice of respected investor John Bogle, founder of The Vanguard Group:

The Stock Market

"If you can't afford to lose one more penny," says Bogle, "get out. But, if you're in your 20s to 40s, keep going. These are good values. The stock market has taken an awful lot of this mess into account, and it's hard for me to believe that common equities won't do better than Treasuries from this point on." Bogle thinks that a 7% nominal return -- more than twice Treasury bonds -- is realizable over the next decade.

Simple Math

Bogle's "relentless rules of humble arithmatic" show the importance of being vigilant about costs. A dollar invested over 50 years at 8% a year compounds to just under $47. But dock just 2% for expense ratios and transaction costs and you're down to $18. Back out another three percentage points for inflation and you're at $4.38 -- less than a tenth of your potential catch.

On Timing and Chasing the Sector du Jour

"The stock market's day-to-day is actually a distraction to the business of investing," according to Bogle. His point: The past century of data show that American businesses have grown at an annual rate of about 9.5%, with 4.5% from dividend yields and the remaining 5% from earnings growth. The simultaneous aggregate return on bonds averaged 5%. These are the realistic benchmarks to focus on. "It's all simplicity, mathematics, and common sense," he says. In other words, calibrate your expectations to these long-term figures, a discipline that requires you to ignore the pull of solar, B2B, nanotech, or whatever last year's hot sector was.

Sales Ethics and Practice

Caveat emptor for investors: Don't assume your retirement provider or money management firm espouses a standard of honesty, full and fair disclosure, or putting its clients' interests first. The industry is quietly bifurcated into salesmen and professionals. That is why Bogle is urging Washington to enact a federal standard of fiduciary duty to mandate prioritizing clients, avoiding conflicts, and disclosing all fees.

Overextended Treasuries

"Bond prices are already high. Stocks should do 3 or 4 percentage points better than bonds."

Act Your Age

The percentage of your portfolio in bonds should roughly match your age. For example, a 30-year-old investor would be 30% in fixed income -- a 75-year-old, 75%.

Where's the End?

This downturn could last 1 years to 2 years. But the stock market will recover months before a turnaround comes. Don't try to time your entry.

Read the full article.

April 12, 2009

David Dreman: Fired But Unbowed

The New York Times writes about value investor David Dreman:

David N. Dreman was a star mutual fund manager. Then he bought bank shares and held on as the financial crisis grew.

Now he has been fired from the flagship fund that bears his name, despite what remains a good long-term record. The fund’s name will be changed, and the fund will take fewer risks. A drab industry will become a little drabber.

In the past, the firings of once-celebrated fund managers have sometimes provided a market signal of its own — that the trend that led to their poor performance was about to end. If that were to happen this time, there could be a revival for so-called value stocks, and particularly for the beaten-down and almost universally disdained financial stocks.

“The success of contrarian strategies requires you at times to go against gut reactions, the prevailing beliefs in the marketplace and the experts you respect,” Mr. Dreman wrote in his best-selling 1998 book, “Contrarian Investment Strategies.”

Read the full article.

April 09, 2009

Notes, Replay and Transcript of Call with Bruce Berkowitz and Pfizer CEO, March 30, 2009

Pfizer (NYSE: PFE) is the top holding of The Fairhome Fund and accounted for 19% of fund assets as of November 30th. Fairholme chief and noted value investor Bruce Berkowitz arranged the Pfizer call on March 30th. Listen to the conference call. Read the transcript.

We have tremendous respect for Berkowitz, and his investment in Pfizer looks shrewd. Pfizer is a strong company with many good pharmaceutical businesses that earn high returns on capital. With consensus EPS estimates of $2.05 for 2009 and $2.31 for 2010, the stock looks dirt cheap at roughly $14 per share. Key events affecting value are the pending acquisition of Wyeth and the Lipitor patent expiration in 2011. Fairholme's Berkowitz likes the "quality balance sheet of a company producing vital products."

While Pfizer appears highly likely to outperform the broader market in coming years based primarily on the company's low multiple of prospective earnings, we were not very impressed by CEO Jeff Kindler and CFO Frank D'Amelio's performance on the March 30th call. They struck us as a highly polished duo steeped in business-school speak. We did not find the executives' comments specific enough to gain comfort that management truly seeks to maximize returns on capital. The Wyeth deal, for example, can easily be seen as "empire building" rather than "value building." Nothing the executives said convinced us that the Wyeth deal will grow per-share shareholder value.

Highlights -- Jeff Kindler, CEO, and Frank D'Amelio, CFO, Pfizer:

  • Wyeth is a "perfect fit" for advancing strategies articulated by Pfizer a year ago
  • "New Pfizer" will be "very competitively positioned" in fast-changing healthcare environment
  • Deal "strengthens platform" for "stable and consistent earnings growth"
  • "Long before we contemplated doing the Wyeth deal... we said to ourselves [in late 2007 and early 2008], we've got this Lipitor expiration at the end of 2011 -- what kind of company do we need to be to be successful after that event...? We concluded... that in many fundamental ways we had to change and evolve our business model to become much more relevant to a broader array of patients... with the right mix of health care product offerings."
  • "Relentlessly focused on delivering value to shareholders"
  • $4 billion in synergies from Wyeth (half from SG&A, half from R&D and manufacturing)
  • Targeting operating cash flow in 2012 of $20+ billion.
  • "Not immune to global economic downturn" (higher co-pays have an impact)
  • "Seen some slowing in the emerging markets"
  • How big a threat is government action to force price reductions?
    • In Europe, "price pressures have been a part of the operating environment for a long time."
    • The U.S. is "a very different situation..." There is a "significant effort underway in Washington to adopt health care reform..." "...see some actually encouraging signs in that regard..." It's "very encouraging" that President's budget did not include repeal of the Medicare non-interference clause. "...do not see any sign that there's going to be a really serious effort to control or restrain our prices in a way that would be damaging to innovation or to our business model."
  • "Pharmaceutical spending growth is very low right now. It's at the lowest it's been in 50 years due to patent expirations and slow growth of new products."
  • Insurance companies giving preferential treatment to generic drugs is "ongoing challenge."
  • Dividend was cut in half to $0.64 per share per year.

Frank Martin's Fireside Chat

Noted value investor Frank Martin of Martin Capital Management held another of his "fireside chats" on April 2nd. Read the transcript or download the audio file in MP3 format.

Notes from Warren Buffett Meeting on March 13th

Every year, Wharton Business School students visit Warren Buffett in Omaha. Here are this year's notes, compiled by Anix Vyas.

During the visit, Buffett was asked how he values gold:

Buffett commented: “Absent the total destruction of paper money, gold is a terrible investment.” He mentioned that people think that gold is a good way to hedge, but he challenged that belief and said that the best protection in an environment like today is to retain enhancing purchasing power. Gold is an instrument that fails to really do this, has “zero utility” and only “mystique.”

April 08, 2009

Kevin Byun's Q1 Letter to Investors: "...many interesting opportunities presented themselves at the end of the first quarter..."

Up-and-coming value investor H. Kevin Byun is the founder and managing partner of Denali Investors. Investment funds managed by Byun generated a gross return of +28% for the full year and +43% for the fourth quarter of 2008. In the first quarter of 2009, Byun was down 6% while the S&P 500 declined 12%. We will continue to keep Byun on our watchlist, as his investment strategy appears to be sound and well executed.

Read Kevin Byun's Q1 2009 letter to investors.

Read Kevin Byun's Q4 2008 letter to investors.

Read our February 2009 interview with Kevin Byun.

April 07, 2009

Interview with Jean-Marie Eveillard

Robert Huebscher of Advisor Perspectives published an interview with Jean-Marie Eveillard and Abhay Deshpande of First Eagle today.  Writes Huebscher,

Jean-Marie Eveillard was the Portfolio Manager for the First Eagle Global, Overseas, Gold, U.S. Value and Overseas Variable Funds, where he built one of the most successful long-term performance records in the investment business. On March 31, Mr. Eveillard transitioned to a Senior Advisory role at First Eagle Funds. In addition, we spoke with Abhay Deshpande, a Portfolio Manager for the First Eagle Global, Overseas, Gold and U.S. Value Funds.

We with Deshpande and Eveillard on March 31, thus earning the distinction of having the final interview with Eveillard prior to his transition.

Which worries you more – a decline in the dollar, rapid inflation, or deflation?
How are you positioning your portfolio to defend against these scenarios?

"We have many worries, but we are not positioned against any particular outcome. Our top-down analysis is focused on those trends that will affect the intrinsic values of the companies we own. We believe the most effective defense against these scenarios is to spread risks through diversification."

You have called your billion-dollar purchase of gold “calamity insurance.” What
potential events do you perceive possible that makes such a large position
advisable? How do you go about determining your allocation to gold?

"Our gold position is based on our belief that gold is a universal store of value. We believe a gold position of less than 5% of our assets is irrelevant and a position of more than 15% would be too painful if we are wrong. For most of 2008, our position was between 7-8%, but it eventually grew to almost 15%. This was not because we bought more gold, but because the value of gold rose relative to the value of the rest of our holdings."

"After World War I, during the great inflation of the Weimar Republic, the German government acted very shrewdly. They forbade German citizens from buying gold and from holding foreign currencies, and they taxed real estate very heavily. As a result, some rich farmers bought grand pianos. They did not want the paper currency being issued, because they knew it would be worthless the next day. Instead, they chose pianos as a hard asset that would hold its value. Today, we see gold as having these same characteristics."

"The current actions of the US and UK governments, through “quantitative easing” – which is really just a code word for printing more money – will be rather good for common stocks. Initially, at least, these actions will be bad for cash and Treasury bonds. At some point, they will be good for real estate and fine art. However, these actions are very good for gold."

"The path of increased money supply leads to real assets, and gold is our asset of choice. Common stocks will also benefit, as they are representative of real assets."

"Remember, the opportunity cost of holding gold is near zero, because interest rates are so low. Gold investors should keep in mind the two extremes. The government has a strong incentive to keep long-term Treasury rates low, because it allows them buy Treasury bonds to increase the money supply. At the other extreme, the government dislikes high gold prices, because it reflects poorly on their policies. This is partly why FDR, during the Great Depression, made it illegal to own gold. So, to some degree, gold investors are betting against the government."

Read the full interview.

April 06, 2009

OID's Interview with Bruce Berkowitz

Read OID's recent interview with Bruce Berkowitz of The Fairholme Fund.

Exclusive Interview with Thomas S. Gayner, Chief Investment Officer of Markel Corporation (NYSE: MKL)

Thomas S. Gayner, Markel CorporationThe Manual of Ideas is pleased to bring you an exclusive interview with Tom Gayner of Markel Corporation, a Richmond, Virginia-based international property and casualty insurance holding company. Tom has been President of Markel Gayner Asset Management since 1990 and Executive Vice President and Chief Investment Officer of Markel since 2004.

Tom is a true class act. He has been a disciplined steward of capital on behalf of Markel shareholders, and his long-term investment track record is one of the best in the business (see Markel’s 2008 letter to shareholders for specific figures). And, as you’ll undoubtedly learn in this interview, his other qualities are matched by an uncharacteristic sense of humility. In all of these respects, Tom Gayner has lived up to the example set by every value investor’s role model—Warren Buffett.

The following are excerpts of our interview with Tom:

MOI:  You have stated that the businesses you seek should have (1) a demonstrated record of profitability and good returns on total capital, (2) high measures of talent and integrity in management, (3) favorable reinvestment dynamics over time, and (4) a purchase price that is fair or better. Perfection, however, is rarely attainable in the stock market. Have you had to compromise on these criteria, and if so, could you illuminate for us how you decide on acceptable versus unacceptable trade-offs?

Tom Gayner: While you say that perfection is rarely obtainable in the stock market, I would go so far as to say that it is never obtainable in the stock market. Perfection doesn’t exist in this world. All of my choices involve various degrees of compromise and tradeoffs. As an accountant, I can tell you that my wife and children are sick of hearing me use the phrase “opportunity cost”. Every decision is also another decision (at least) and every non-decision is also a series of other decisions.

The challenge is to get the balance roughly right between the choices that actually exist. All of the four points I lay out are north stars that guide me. I admit though, that I have never personally been to the North Pole.

The one area where I will not compromise is in the area of integrity. I may not make every judgment correctly when I’m trying to make sure I’m dealing with people of integrity but I will never knowingly entrust money to people when I am concerned about their integrity. Even if you get everything else right, the integrity factor can kill you. My father used to tell me that, “you can’t do a good deal with a bad person.” And he was right.

The other factors can be thought of as shades of gray and nuances. We look for as much of the good as we can find and weigh that against what we have to pay for it, our expectation of how durable the business will be, and what our other alternatives are. I don’t have a formula or algorithm to get that precisely right, I just spend all my time thinking, reading, and adapting as best as I can.

MOI:  You emphasize the impact of the passage of time on your investments. With the trend toward compression of time horizons and a focus on short-term performance in the investment industry, we are seeing many investors—even those who consider themselves value investors—emphasizing near-term stock price catalysts. Do you see a growing inefficiency in the pricing of “boring” investments that will deliver returns over time versus investments that are expected to pay off at a foreseeable point in time?

Tom Gayner: Yes.

To expand on that one word answer, I think there is a real time arbitrage opening up right now. An old saying is that in a bull market, your time horizons grow longer and longer. In a bear market, they grow shorter and shorter. The bear market experience of the last few years compresses time horizons for a lot of people. Even if they want to remain focused on the long term, there are inevitable career risks in not putting results on the books today when people are so anxious about every aspect of their lives.

I think that means the playing field for longer term investing is getting less crowded. Fewer people are able to think about the long term and I believe that creates an opportunity to buy wonderful, long duration investments, at better prices than has been the case in the last decade or so.

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Don't miss Tom Gayner's insights on the following topics:

  • How does your approach to international investing differ from that to investing in U.S. equities?
  • What is the single biggest mistake that keeps investors from reaching their goals?
  • You have observed a “strong connection between managing companies and investing in them.” Unlike most investors, you have had an opportunity at Markel to be intimately involved in both managing and investing. How should investors go about building this critical skill set if they don’t have an opportunity to manage a business?
  • You define a “fair” purchase price as one that allows you to earn long-term returns in line with the returns on equity of the business in which you invest. When paying a “fair” price, the expected return therefore comes entirely from the business rather than from multiple expansion. Based on this definition, the recent market carnage has created an opportunity to pay less than a “fair” price for many great businesses. In Wall Street parlance, does this make you a bull?
  • And other topics of interest to equity investors.

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Tom Gayner's Book Recommendations

In our April 2009 interview with Tom Gayner, Chief Investment Officer of Markel Corporation (NYSE: MKL), we asked Tom the following question, among many others:

The Manual of Ideas:  What books have you read in recent years that have stood out as valuable additions to your "latticework of mental models"?

Tom Gayner: There are a number of books that help you to think and teach you things you didn’t know. We all know Security Analysis and The Intelligent Investor and they have stood the test of time.

I think Mark Twain is a great writer and his insights and observations about human nature and money are invaluable. He was broke and rich several times in his life and his writing carries an undertone of his struggles with money. You get a twofer from Twain. You can laugh and learn at the same time.

I read endlessly. John Wooden, the basketball coach at UCLA during their dynasty is a hero to me. General Grant is a hero. Warren Buffett is a hero. Pick some good heroes and read everything you can about them.

I also like reading about history, psychology, and human nature, technological progress and scientific thought. The world is a fascinating place and you will never run out of rich material if you want to keep understanding more and more.

I think I saw a recent interview with Seth Klarman where he said something like, “value investing is the marriage of a contrarian and a calculator.” Some books, like Twain’s, the histories and biographies help you with the human nature and contrarian side of that equation. Some books, like the ones about science and technological developments, along with the accounting homework I did a long time ago, help you with the calculator side. Both elements are essential. Each is severely limited without appropriate balance and understanding from the other side.

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April 04, 2009

George Soros on G20 (video)












April 03, 2009

Paul Singer's Inconvenient Truth

Paul Singer, founder and CEO of hedge fund firm Elliott Management Corp., writes in an opinion piece in today's Wall Street Journal that there is "an urgent need for a new global regulatory initiative that addresses the primary cause of the financial collapse: highly leveraged and concentrated positions."

You heard it right, the conservative Singer appears to have had a conversion, endorsing regulation instead of market fundamentalism.  Singer's new-found embrace of "some regulation" is noteworthy because he is widely known and respected in Republican Party circles. Some may remember him as a financial backer of the infamous 527 group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Whether Singer's opinion piece represents a true change of heart or opportunism in the face of political reality, we do not know.

April 02, 2009

FPA's Rodriguez In His Own Words

Value investor Bob Rodriguez recently spoke with IBD. Read the interview.

About Bob Rodriguez

As of April 2009, Mr. Rodriguez, who joined First Pacific Advisors in 1983, managed the FPA Capital Fund and separate accounts in the Small/Mid-Cap Value equity style. Rodriguez was also the portfolio manager of FPA New Income, a bond fund, and separate fixed-income accounts. He was expected to commence a one-year sabbatical in 2009 and then return to FPA. His prior experience includes serving as a Senior Portfolio Manager, Chairman's Department of Kaufman & Broad, Inc.; and portfolio manager at Transamerica Investment Services, Inc. Mr. Rodriguez received a BS in Business Administration (Magna Cum Laude) and an MBA, both from the University of Southern California.

An updated bio may be posted at the FPA website.

Chou Associates 2008 Annual Report

Noted Canadian value investor Francis Chou writes in his 2008 letter to investors in the Chou Associates funds:

INVESTING TOO EARLY: One of the hazards of being a value investor is that every now and then you are bound to buy stocks too early. Over the last few years, we have communicated through our letters, our deep concern about the easy credit, irresponsible lending, housing bubble and the potential dangers of derivatives like CDOs (collateralized debt obligations) impacting financial companies. As pessimistic as we were over the years, we did not anticipate how severely these factors would paralyze and cripple the financial system when the bubble did burst. There was no place to hide.

[...]

Repricing of Risk

At the time of writing two years ago, preservation of capital was given little consideration. However, in 2008 there was a huge repricing of risk. For example, the greater the probability of permanent loss of capital, the greater the spread should be between a particular debt instrument and risk-free treasuries. Currently the spreads between the higher risk securities and U.S. treasuries are at near historic highs. Other indicators are showing that investors are running scared, and banks and financial institutions are hoarding capital instead of lending. The following are some examples:

1) Two years ago, the spread between U.S. corporate high yield debt and U.S. treasuries was 311 basis points; a year ago it was 800 basis points. Currently, it is over 1,600 basis points, down from its peak of over 1,900 basis points in December 2008. (Source: JP Morgan).

2) Two years ago, the spread between U.S. investment grade bonds and U.S. treasuries was approximately 85 basis points; a year ago it was approximately 274 basis points. It is now over 550 basis points, which is slightly down from its peak of 592 basis points in December 2008. (Source: JP Morgan).

3) In December 2008, an auction of 4 week treasury bills ended with a 0% yield (currently they are yielding 8 basis points or 0.08%). The yield on 10 year treasury is 2.94% (up from 2% in December 2008) but down from 4.75% two years ago. In September 1981, it was 15.3%.

4) Today, investment bankers and anyone working for the financial/investment industry are considered the new pariahs of society. They are the butt of jokes. My favorite one is, 'What is the difference between an investment banker and a pigeon'? 'At least a pigeon can still put a deposit on a house'.

[...]

ZOMBIE COMPANIES: The Fed and the U.S. government have a tough job in tackling the financial crisis and, whatever actions they take, they are scrutinized, criticized and/or second guessed. There is no one perfect approach. Every approach has its pros and cons. However, where zombie companies are concerned, we would prefer to give companies that are insolvent and failing the opportunity to reorganize and restructure their capital structure in an organized way. When they do emerge from reorganization, they will come out leaner and stronger. What we are seeing now is that the U.S. government has pledged $9.7 trillion (and still counting) to counter the financial crisis. Billions of dollars have been given to prop up failing financial institutions and still they are asking for more financial assistance. The requests from the very large financial institutions are not based on business and investment merit but more on the line that if they don't receive more bailout money, they would have to file for bankruptcy and that would precipitate a chain reaction that will totally paralyze not only the U.S. financial system but also the entire Western banking system. The sooner we recapitalize the zombie companies in some form or the other (including nationalization for a short-term period) the quicker we can unfreeze the credit market and get the economy moving again.

MARK-TO-MARKET ACCOUNTING: We have been hearing of late that the current financial mess is caused in part by mark-to-market accounting. Nothing could be further from the truth. The financial mess was caused by misguided policies and actions on the part of some companies and would have occurred regardless of whether this accounting rule was in place or not. As investors, we prefer transparency and clarity and unless these rules exist, companies will not disclose what the assets are currently worth in the market. Obviously, when there are extenuating circumstances like the period we are in now, good and toxic assets may be priced at unduly low prices. In such a case, we would favour a provision that gives companies some grace period before they have to take action to shore up their balance sheets either through asset sales or by raising capital. In the end, transparency should prevail over opaqueness and undisclosed market values in the financial statements.

INFLATION: Almost all governments whose economies have been adversely affected by the financial crisis have been providing all kinds of liquidity including printing money to minimize the impact of the credit freeze on their economies. Historically, that is how nations have tackled their debt burden and this episode is no different. In the short term it may work, as the liquidity will counter some of the deleveraging and credit freeze in today's crisis. But longer term such actions can bring huge unintended consequences including the return of high inflation and the likely debasement of the U.S. currency. We don't know the timing of it but all that excess liquidity will have to go somewhere when normal times return.

MORE REGULATION: Yes, we will have a more regulated environment going forward. You can bet your last dollar on it. There is a need for regulatory reforms to ensure that, in the future, the near collapse of the world financial system does not happen again. And more regulation of financial institutions will most certainly lower their future growth and profitability. We need to also get away from the notion of 'too big to fail'. Failing financial companies have used this excuse to hold us ransom in giving them financial assistance.

PENSION ASSETS: Most corporate pension plans have a majority of their assets invested in equities. With the markets down at least 40% across the world, we can safely assume that pension assets are down significantly. Eventually, companies have to make up the shortfall of their underfunded pension assets and therefore, their cash flow and earnings will take a significant hit in the future.

RECOVERY OF THE STOCK MARKET AND ECONOMY: The economy may get worse before it gets better. However, I have strong faith in the strength and resilience of a free market system. In the 20th century, the standard of living went up seven times in spite of the Great Depression, two World Wars, the oil embargo in the 1970s, interest rates of 15% or more to combat inflation and so on. The current financial crisis is severe, probably not as bad as the Great Depression, but worst of all the recessions in the 20th century. One unitholder said, 'This market feels worse than a divorce. You lose 50% of your assets and you still have your spouse'. The good news is, if one wants to look at the current situation in a contrarian manner, most of the bad news is already reflected in the stock prices. We don't know whether the stock market has hit bottom yet but we suspect that when we look back at the current environment 10 years from now, we will classify this as one of the best periods for buying stock and debt securities.

BANKING SECTOR: Banks that have not been affected by the financial crisis will do quite well in the future. With the governments driving the treasuries to yield nearly 0%, the spread between what the banks are paying for deposits and borrowings in the market (like FDIC insured), and what they can lend at is enormous. For the first time in many years, banks are being paid handsomely for the risks they are taking. See the section under 'Repricing of Risk'.

CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS (CDS): In general, the CDSs are way overpriced. What a dramatic difference from two years ago. To give you some sense of perspective, in October 2002, the 5 year CDS of General Electric Company was quoted at an annual price of 110 basis points. Two years ago, it was quoted at an annual price of 8 basis points and lately it is priced at over 900 points. Some pricing in the CDS market is absurd. Barrons (March 9, 2009) reported that, 'A Merrill Lynch analyst Friday noted it was more costly to protect oneself from the possibility of a default by Berkshire Hathaway (ticker: BRKA) than one by Vietnam. And General Electric (GE) CDS prices outstripped those of Russia -- a country that a dozen years ago actually did default on its foreign debt'.

Read the full Chou Associates 2008 Annual Report.

Coming Monday: Exclusive Interview with Thomas S. Gayner of Markel

We had the pleasure of interviewing Tom Gayner of Markel Corporation this week. Markel is a Richmond, Virginia-based international property and casualty insurance holding company. Tom has been President of Markel Gayner Asset Management since 1990 and Executive Vice President and Chief Investment Officer of Markel since 2004. Tom is revered in the value investment community for his exemplary long-term track record and unquestioned integrity.

In our wide-ranging interview with Tom Gayner, to be published this coming Monday, April 6th, Tom provides insight into his investment approach, the market inefficiencies created by what Warren Buffett calls the "institutional imperative," the biggest mistakes that keep investors from reaching their goals, and whether he is a bull or bear right now.

Don't miss this one-of-a-kind exchange of ideas -- come back right here on Monday morning.

March 31, 2009

Toronto Life on Prem Watsa

Toronto Life is out with an article on Prem Watsa, who heads Fairfax Financial (NYSE: FFH) and is sometimes referred to as the Warren Buffett of Canada. Watsa has proven his investing ability over a long time and is someone to be studied.

Read the article.

March 30, 2009

Yale Investments Office on CY08 Performance

The following is a CY08 performance update from the Yale Investments Office, which manages the Yale endowment fund and is headed by highly respected investor David Swensen.

As a matter of long-standing practice, Yale releases information on the performance of its Endowment only following the close of the University’s June 30 fiscal year. Because the current economic crisis altered the financial landscape in dramatic fashion, Yale decided to release interim performance information to provide context for evaluating the University’s investment, spending, and borrowing activities.

On December 16, President Levin delivered a message to Yale’s faculty and staff that stated: "Our best estimate of the Endowment’s value today is $17 billion, a decline of 25 percent since June 30, 2008." President Levin’s estimate incorporated returns on marketable securities through October 31 and projections of write-downs on illiquid assets. Based on marketable security returns through December 31 and illiquid asset projections, the estimated investment decline remains at 25 percent.

Even though the significant decline in Yale's Endowment disappoints, it should not surprise. If a portfolio produces gains of 41 percent (as it did in the year ended June 30, 2000) and 28 percent (as it did in the year ended June 30, 2007), the possibility of suffering the symmetry of double-digit losses should be anticipated. That said, the fact that Yale last suffered an investment loss two decades ago (0.2 percent in the year ended June 30, 1988) makes the current decline in value all the more unwelcome.

Consider Yale’s estimated decline of 25 percent in the context of returns for stocks and bonds. For the six months ending December 31, 2008, the broad U.S. equity market declined nearly 30 percent, developed foreign equity markets fell more than 36 percent, and emerging equity markets dropped more than 47 percent. Risky bonds provided no safe haven as the high-yield market declined 25 percent. Only U.S. Treasury bonds protected investor capital, returning just over 11 percent as investors sought the risk-free security of government obligations.

Based on investment results in the current crisis, some skeptics questioned the University’s fundamental approach to portfolio management, which rests on the principles of equity orientation and diversification. These principles continue to support thoughtful and carefully considered management of Yale’s Endowment.

Equity orientation makes sense for investors with long time horizons. In the midst of financial crises, some argue for higher allocations to risk-free assets, no doubt wishing after-the-fact for the now unattainable before-the-fact protection. Yet those who argue for greater protection against financial trauma ignore the opportunity costs of maintaining a substantial allocation to fixed-income assets. Recall that in the ten years ending June 30, 2008, the Yale Endowment returned 16.3 percent per year in contrast to 3.6 percent annually for U.S. stocks and 5.7 percent annually for U.S. bonds.

Diversification, called a free lunch by Nobel laureate Harry Markowitz, allows construction of portfolios with superior risk and return characteristics. In the midst of a capital market dislocation, investors hoping for the protection provided by a diversified portfolio of assets frequently express disappointment at the crisis-induced tendency of risky assets to move together. The correlations between risky asset classes move toward one during periods when investors dump holdings of risky assets of all types to fund purchases of risk-free U.S. Treasury bonds. In a binary world where only risk and safety matter, otherwise dissimilar risky assets behave similarly. In the Crash of 1987 and LTCM crisis in 1998, flights to quality led to temporary market disruptions that caused diversification to lose its power. After the panics subsided, diversification once again mattered, as fundamental drivers of return determined results, not the overriding concern with safety. The crisis of 2008 differs from the crises of 1987 and 1998 in breadth, depth, and intensity. Yet, after the current crisis passes, prudent investors will reap the benefits of a well-diversified portfolio.

While the decline in Endowment value in the current financial crisis caused some observers to question the tenets of Yale’s investment strategy, when evaluated with a time horizon appropriate for a long-term investor, the University’s equity-oriented, well-diversified portfolio continues to provide the best foundation for future investment success. After the financial trauma recedes, Yale will once again benefit from the prospect of superior returns generated with prudent levels of risk.

Read the full Yale Endowment Report for FY08.

March 28, 2009

Lighter fare: Aaron Edelheit on Rio Bravo

It's always interesting to find out what makes fellow investment managers tick, not just from a business perspective but also in their lives. In this vein, we enjoyed a recent post by highly respected value-oriented fund manager Aaron Edelheit on his blog, Investing in a Life of Value. Writes Edelheit on the cultural treasure that is the 1959 movie Rio Bravo, starring John Wayne, Dean Martin and Ricky Nelson:

"I love the movie Rio Bravo, and I actually never knew anyone else enjoyed it as much as I do. So today’s Wall Street Journal article by Allen Barra took me by surprise. Here is a snippet:"

"French director Jean-Luc Godard called “Rio Bravo” “a work of extraordinary psychological insight and aesthetic perception.” British film critic Robin Wood wrote, “If I were asked to choose a film that would justify the existence of Hollywood, I think it would be ‘Rio Bravo.’” Quentin Tarantino, whose “Pulp Fiction” was also both popular and hip, told an audience at a 2007 Cannes screening of “Rio Bravo” that he always tested a new girlfriend 'by taking her to see ‘Rio Bravo’ — and she’d better like it!'”

Here are some scenes from this must-see piece of Americana:

March 27, 2009

David Swensen Rips Jim Cramer

Yale chief investment officer David Swensen has become an outspoken advocate for investor education and protection in recent years. His 2005 book, Unconventional Success: A Fundamental Approach to Personal Investment, included a recommended asset allocation for individual investors.

According to an interview in the March/April issue of Yale Alumni Magazine, Swensen has revised his recommended asset allocation as follows:

 

2005

2009

Domestic equities

30%

30%

REITs

20%

15%

U.S. Treasury bonds

15%

15%

TIPS

15%

15%

Foreign developed market equities

15%

15%

Emerging market equities

5%

10%

Equally noteworthy, Swensen has some choice words for CNBC’s Jim Cramer. As the Yale Alumni Magazine points out, Swensen writes the following in the new edition of Pioneering Portfolio Management: “Educated at Harvard College and Harvard Law School, Cramer squanders his extraordinary credentials and shamelessly promotes stunningly inappropriate investment advice to an all-too-gullible audience.”

Elaborates Swensen:

“Jim Cramer exemplifies everything that's wrong with the advice -- and I put advice in quotation marks -- that is given to individual investors. Investing is a serious business. We're talking about retirement security of American citizens, and he turns it into a game. It's a game where his listeners lose. It's ridiculous. These high-turnover, rapid trading strategies enrich the brokers. If you look at Jim Cramer's approach on an after-fee, after-tax basis, the individual doesn't have a chance.”

While some may dismiss Swensen’s comments as an extension of the recent ripping of Jim Cramer by Jon Stewart, David Swensen is no Jon Stewart. Not only is Swensen as serious as Stewart is happy-go-lucky, but Swensen is also a consummate investment professional. This makes Swensen’s indictment of Cramer all-the-more noteworthy.

March 26, 2009

Steve Cohen's Evolving Interest in Sotheby's

The British paper The Telegraph reports on Steve Cohen's past indulgences at the auction house Sotheby's (NYSE: BID) as well as Cohen's current interest in the auction house itself. 

We've taken cursory looks at Sotheby's in the past and find the current valuation quite interesting.  After all, Sotheby's is one of only two dominant high-end auction houses, enjoying a wide moat around their businesses.

Of course, as with all companies that relaxed their business practices during the recent boom period, Sotheby's has gotten in some trouble for essentially guaranteeing minimum auction sales prices to some providers of highly prized auction merchandise. While these contingencies likely had a negative impact on the stock, they do not appear to have threatened Sotheby's existence.

When art prices inevitably recover, especially under an inflationary scenario that appears increasingly likely in the U.S., Sotheby's revenue and profits should also rebound nicely. Finally, the company owns its significant headquarters building in New York City, giving investors a small stake in another inflation hedge -- real estate.

Sotheby's: SEC filings; trading overview; investor relations website

Disclosure: No position.

March 20, 2009

Investment Letter Roundup: Eddie Lampert

Lampert Letter Lampert Letter zerohedge

Investment Letter Roundup: Ken Griffin

Citadel Suspension Update Citadel Suspension Update DealBook From DealBook: Citadel Investment Group's letter to investors, maintaining a freeze on withdrawals but creating "distributions" for those seeking to redeem some money.

Investment Letter Roundup: Warren Buffett

Waren Buffett's 2008 Berkshire Hathaway Letter Waren Buffett's 2008 Berkshire Hathaway Letter DealBook Warren Buffett's annual letter to Berkshire Hathaway shareholders, recapping what happened in 2008 and what he sees in the year to come.

Investment Letter Roundup: Mohnish Pabrai

Pabrai Investment Funds 08 Year End Letter Pabrai Investment Funds 08 Year End Letter marketfolly Mohnish Pabrai's 2008 year end letter to investors in the hedge fund: Pabrai Investment Funds

Investment Letter Roundup: Bill Ackman

Pershing Square IV Letter to Investors Pershing Square IV Letter to Investors DealBook From DealBook: William Ackman's letter to investors about Pershing Square IV, his hedge fund devoted specifically to the retailer Target. Mr. Ackman is cutting fees and letting investors withdraw their capital from the money-losing fund.

Investment Letter Roundup: Richard Perry

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Investment Letter Roundup: Andreas Halvorsen

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March 19, 2009

Stocks Meeting Warren Buffett's Acquisition Criteria

Bloomberg is out with an article on companies currently meeting Berkshire Hathaway's stated takeover criteria.  While the likelihood that Buffett will end up acquiring any specific company on the list is low, the likelihood appears high that the companies as a group will outperform the broader market over a 2-3 year period.  Here is the list:

  • Aetna
  • Aflac
  • Agilent Technologies
  • Allergan
  • Anadarko Petroleum
  • Aon
  • Archer Daniels Midland
  • Baker Hughes
  • Becton Dickinson
  • Brown-Forman
  • Bunge
  • Cardinal Health
  • Carnival
  • Chubb
  • Computer Sciences
  • Covidien
  • Danaher
  • EOG Resources
  • General Dynamics
  • Halliburton
  • Hess
  • Illinois Tool Works
  • Intercontinental Exchange
  • Intuit
  • ITT
  • Kohl’s
  • Loews Corp.
  • Marathon Oil
  • McKesson
  • Newmont Mining
  • Noble Corp.
  • Noble Energy
  • Nucor
  • Precision Castparts
  • Raytheon
  • Reynolds American
  • Rockwell Collins
  • SAIC
  • Smith International
  • Southern Copper
  • Southwestern Energy
  • St. Jude Medical
  • Staples
  • Sysco
  • TJX
  • Union Pacific
  • VF
  • WellPoint
  • W.W. Grainger
  • Zimmer Holdings
Disclosures: None. 

March 16, 2009

Ackman to Join Target Board?

He certainly intends to try (video), along with other nominees put forth by Bill Ackman's hedge fund, Pershing Square.

March 15, 2009

Interview with Mohamed El-Erian

Notes from Buffett Meeting

The blog Underground Value has published notes from two meetings Warren Buffett recently had with business school students.  The blog contains a caveat that the notes represent the best recollection of the authors but may not reflect exactly what Buffett said.

Notes from Meeting on February 6, 2009:

Buffett:
Did you hear they called off the Wall Street Christmas Pageant this year? They had trouble finding three wise men…and a virgin. There are many opportunities right now. The markets are very inefficient at times, and this is one of those times.

Kansas:
Berkshire has invested in several insurance companies, would you go into the health insurance business?

Buffett:
No. Health insurance is so ingrained into national policy that it is a tough business. It’s pretty adversarial. I’m not really that excited about it from a business perspective. I don’t want to write policies with high loan loss ratios. That being said, I would buy the stock of an undervalued healthcare insurer.

Insurance is an interesting business. You know, we underwrote a two year life insurance policy on Mike Tyson. I wanted an exclusion against women shooting him, but they wouldn’t let me.

South Dakota:
You’ve recently invested in Goldman Sachs and GE. Is the financial sector a good buy right now?

Buffett:
No sector is a good buy unless you understand the business. However, I do believe that there is good value and great opportunity now in the financial sector because it is extremely unpopular. Sector’s themselves don’t make good buys, companies that are undervalued make good buys. You know how to value a business, you project the future cash flows discounted to present and buy with a margin of safety. The earnings prospects need to be greater than the current value. Anything that is unpopular is always great to look at. If I was getting out of school right now, I would take a look.

Creighton:
How much and how does risk factor into your investment decisions? Would you invest in emerging markets?

Buffett:
In general, emerging markets are not great for me because I need to put a lot of money to work. Risk does not equal beta. Risk comes around because you don’t understand things, not because of beta. There are normally 10 filters or so that I go through when I hear an idea. The first is can I understand the business and understand the downside not just today but five to ten years from now. There have been very few times that I’ve lost 1% of my net worth. I might be risk averse but I am not action adverse. Mrs. B saved $500 over the course of 16 years to start and build Nebraska Furniture Mart. Tom Watson Sr of IBM said, “I’m smart in spots and I stay in those spots.” I just stay within my circle of confidence. When I bought Nebraska Furniture Mart in 1983, Mrs. B took cash and not Berkshire stock. Why? She didn’t understand the value of stock. She understood cash and that is what she took. I need only need to be right a few times and can let thousands of ideas go by.

Ted Williams, who wrote the “Science of Hitting,” broke the strike zone into 92 ball shaped sections. He knew, if hit in his sweet spot, he’d hit 430, a little further out, and he’d hit 350. You have to know your sweet spot. The beautiful thing about investing is that it’s a “No called strike game” where unlike baseball the only strikes in investing are when you swing. I don’t have to swing.

When I do invest, I don’t care if the stock price goes from $10 to $2 but I do care about if the value went from $10 to $2. Avoid debt. I decided early on that I never wanted to owe more than 25% of my net worth, and I haven’t… exept for in the very beginning. I like to play from a position of strength. I always try to have the odds in my favor. When I go to Vegas, I don’t go around putting $5 dollars on the blackjack tables. If someone wants to come to my room and put $5 on my bed, well that’s fine. I like those odds better.

Emory:
How do you think about value?

Buffett:
The formula for value was handed down from 600 BC by a guy named Aesop. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Investing is about laying out a bird now to get two or more out of the bush. The keys are to only look at the bushes you like and identify how long it will take to get them out. When interest rates are 20%, you need to get it out right now. When rates are 1%, you have 10 years. Think about what the asset will produce. Look at the asset, not the beta. I don’t really care about volatility. Stock price is not that important to me, it just gives you the opportunity to buy at a great price. I don’t care if they close the NYSE for 5 years. I care more about the business than I do about events. I care about if there’s price flexibility and whether the company can gain more market share. I care about people drinking more Coke.

I bought a farm from the FDIC 20 years ago for $600 per acre. Now I don’t know anything about farming but my son does. I asked him, how much it cost to buy corn, plow the field, harvest, how much an acre will yield, what price to expect. I haven’t gotten a quote on that farm in 20 years.

If I were running a business school I would only have 2 courses. The first would obviously be an investing class about how to value a business. The second would be how to think about the stock market and how to deal with the volatility. The stock market is funny. You have no compulsion to act and a bunch of silly people setting prices all the time, it is great odds. I want the market to be like a manic depressive drunk. Graham’s Ch. 8, in the book Intelligent Investor, on Mr. Market is the most important thing I have ever read. Now think about the NYSE. You have thousands of companies to choose from. For me, that universe has shrunk because I need to put large dollar amounts to work. Attitude is much more important than IQ. You can really get into trouble with a high IQ, i.e. Long-Term Capital. You need to have the right philosophical temperament.

Penn State:
Why did you invest in Harley-Davidson?

Buffett:
I like the 15%. I measured that 15% against other credits and it looked attractive on both a relative basis and an absolute basis. Also, we have to have a certain amount of the portfolio go to debt. Lately, the government has become the guarantor for some companies but not for others and the “haves” and “have-nots” determined by certainty of government assistance rather than the credit quality. These finance companies have a problem getting funded, not with their customers. Any company where you can get your customers to tattoo your name on their body has quite a strong brand. For this investment I had to think what is the probability that they will not pay me back and would I want to own the company if they did not, basically that the equity isn’t worth zero. Risk premiums in the corporate bond market went from real low to real high. Right now, they’re out of whack. The flip side is that governments are overpriced. We have a bubble in governments. T-bills actually had a negative interest rate. I never thought I’d see that. A mattress is a better investment than the US 10 Year. Buying corporates and shorting the 10-year is a great idea and smart guys went broke doing it because even if you’re right, you need to be able to play out your hand. I always think about what I would do if a nuclear bomb went off or if Bernanke ran off with Paris Hilton to South America.

Texas:
Do you feel that the might of America has changed?

Buffett:
You can bet against the dollar, but I would never bet against America. The system in the U.S. has allowed the country to unleash more for the world than any other country. Since 1776, the U.S. had a different system than the rest of the world and that system unleashed the human potential. We were not the smartest nor did we have the best resources. This is the same system we have in place today with people of similar intelligence. I have and would bet against the U.S. currency, stocks, etc. but the United States prevails over time. There are all kinds of rocky roads but we have rule of law, equality of opportunity, and a meritocracy. We have a market system and people apply energies and imagination to come up with things someone would want. Everyone in this room is working far below his/her potential.

Kansas:
We know that you are a big bridge player. Do you think that bridge correlates to investing? Are there any traits or characteristics that might carry over from one to the other?

Buffett:
Bridge is the best game there is. You’re drawing inferences from every bid and play of a card, and every card that is or isn’t played. It teaches you about partnership and other human skills. In bridge, you draw inferences from everything and that carries over well into investing. In bridge, similar to in life, you’ll never get the same hand twice but the past does have a meaning. The past does not make the future definitive but you can draw from those experiences. I think the partnership aspect of bridge is a great lesson for life. If I’m going into battle, I want to partner with the best. I was playing with a world champion and we were playing against my sister and her husband. We lost, so I took the scorepad and I ate it.

South Dakota:
What are your views on derivatives and how do you think they have affected the global market?

Buffett:
In my 2002 letter to shareholders I referred to them as “weapons of mass destruction.” Derivatives are really just a way to create a product with a very long fuse, for example, 100 years, as opposed to stocks which settle in 3 days. That kind of system allows claims to be built up. AIG called me in September and told me they were about to get downgraded which would have required higher posting requirements. Now this is an enterprise that has been built up over decades and was effectively destroyed in 48 hours by these products. With derivatives, you’re exposed to counterparties and thus reliant on others. These claims built up over time to the tune of billions of dollars and when one falls, the whole system falls. Derivatives are not evil by themselves but rather everyone needs to be able to handle them. System wide, they’re rat poison. Berkshire holds many derivatives but we always hold the money at Berkshire.

Creighton:
What do you think about the stimulus package? Would you rather see tax cuts or government spending?

Buffett:
We obviously have a problem, but we’ll come out of this just fine. The idea of a stimulus is to do things that will have an impact quickly and the current proposal won’t do that. When dealing with situations like this, you can’t do just one thing but always need to ask yourself what is the next question. We have utilized monetary policy and guaranteed everything in sight. It’s a standard Keynesian prescription. Tax cuts benefit people differently in the short term. We are basically saying, we’re not going to pay for what we’re doing in terms of government spending and that we’ll just mail you some money but it’s better than doing nothing. In the end, you should buy stock in a business that any idiot could run because someday, one will. You know, our country is similar.

Emory:
How do you think differently today than you did twenty years ago? Where do you expect to see the greatest differences in 2030?

Buffett:
The fundamental things about investing that I learned when I was younger haven’t changed. I am lucky to have picked up a book at 19, The Intelligent Investor, that gave structure to investing and investment decisions. Over time, I learned different ways to apply it. I have learned what it is outside my circle of confidence. I bought See’s in 1972 and I think understanding the value of brand helped drive the decision to buy Coca-Cola in 1988. Through experience, I have gotten smarter on predicting and evaluating human behavior. My wife put me together in terms of human behavior. I really enjoy doing what I do and I get to do what I want. I enjoy talking to groups like these. Irv and Ron Blumkin are some of my best friends and I continue to add friends by buying businesses. I don’t want a boat or 12 houses. I’m almost fully depreciated, down to my residual value. Age doesn’t affect my ability to my job though, as opposed to Arnold Palmer, he can’t play his game.

Penn State:
What advice would you give the average person in the U.S.?

Buffett:
It’s hard to give advice to someone who might lose their job. My Dad went to work on August 13, 1931 to find out the bank where he worked and held all our money had closed. He had no job and no money and two kids. You want to be as prepared as you can and you just don’t want to have debt. Medical problems cause a lot of the grief and lots of credit card debt. Credit cards are poison. If you make a dollar, only spend 95 cents, not $1.05. You should be ahead of the game all the time rather than behind as it is harder to work your way out of a hole. You want to play the game from strength, and you have to think ahead. People don’t always want to hear advice when things are going well. People risked everything they had and needed for something they didn’t have or need. Charlie once said, “The problem isn’t getting rich, it’s staying sane.

Texas:
What are the biggest challenges that this country faces?

Buffett:
The biggest problem is probably weapons of mass destruction. We have always had people who were ill-fitted to society and wished harm on others. In 1945 we unlocked the atom, and that changed everything. The human animal hasn’t changed, you still have the same percentage that are maladjusted. The problem is knowledge, materials, and deliverability. What you could do with the wrong kind of infectious disease is incredible. You can transmit things much faster today. Governments, individuals and organizations can’t control security. It’s what I would spend all of my money on if I could fix it. Everyone here in this room won what I call the ovarian lottery. You were born at the right time and we were all very, very lucky. We are in the luckiest 1% of humanity.

Kansas:
What are some of the mistakes that Secretary Paulson made during the sub-prime crisis?

Buffett:
Hank is a great guy and great friend. He’s extremely smart about markets but not so smart about politics. I sympathize with Hank. Hank Paulson was not the supreme commander. He had to work through at least 535 people with different incentives. The whole situation has developed faster and at an extreme pace, more than anyone thought. The first TARP program got voted down, which changed the dynamic. All variables affect other variables. Congress did not appreciate how severe the problem was. I call it an “Economic Pearl Harbor” in September. FDR essentially had a blank check and that what people think is important and believing it makes it so. He restored confidence in the banking system. Paulson’s job may have been almost impossible given the circumstances. He was used to operating in a sphere that did not require consensus (Goldman Sachs). People that take that on [public service jobs] are laying themselves open to be unfairly attacked, criticized and scrutinized. In hindsight, letting Lehman fail was probably not the right thing but it was difficult to tell at the time. It created trust problems as money market funds fell apart soon thereafter. When people start to worry about the money in money markets, it’s a problem. People want to be led at this point, but fall back into old habits very easily. When you think that Citi or Lehman is just a house of cards… I mean who would have even believed you. It’s like Noah before the flood, building his ark. Can you imagine the reaction he got?

South Dakota:
What do you think about the U.S. trade deficit?

Buffett:
I talked to Barack back in August, and said: “I have good news and bad news. The good news is that the economy will be terrible, so you’ll definitely get elected. The bad news is that the economy will be even worse at inauguration.” He asked, “Do you think it’s too late to throw the election?” The trade situation is there and it causes problem and could exacerbate the situation. However, all issues go on the back burner until we solve the big problem.

We create sovereign wealth funds, buying more goods and services than everyone else in the world. The decline in the oil price has helped the trade deficit but nothing will get better until everyone feels better. Every day, we buy $2 billion of goods and service more than we produce and export. We give the exporting nations USD. The trade deficit creates claims on the United States. Sometimes we’re a little hypocritical. For example, three years ago, the Chinese wanted to buy Unocal (a small oil company in California) and Congress wanted to condemn China for wanting to buy the oil company with the money we gave them (through U.S. imports). That’s